Guild Wars 2

DrDivine.5378:

Penguin.7906:

mPascoal.4258:

DrDivine.5378:

Penguin.7906:

hambow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJASTjMdUGaXIWhQHagqgC9iHAPg6eoxzhUbAA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACuAAk2f4YZAA

GSbow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUGaXIWhwJaAmgCZnPBHT7AQ9T85LBA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACuAAk2f4YZAA

Macebow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNApcTjMdUGahHWhwJaghgC9KUCxgxA4nVGGxOA-TpRHwAFeAAc2fIwRAAwhAQwJA4YZAA

Axebow (barely viable):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAncTjMdUGaXIWhwJaghgC9rXCxgpAQdYE7dBA-TpBHwAAeAACOCABOEADOBAl2fAZZAA

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SwordHybrid:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAscTjMdUGaXIWhwJagqgC9iHANg6eoxj9UbAA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACOBAk2f4YZAA

Would you say that axebow (celestial axe) is not really a viable competitive build anymore? Or is it viable and just harder to play now?

Still viable, but since Eviscerate is so hard to land and the build is heavy realiant on that skill, it makes a bit less viable than Hambow. But if well played it will work fine still

I would say Sword/Sword does same job only better.

Can you explain? I’m kinda curious to try sword/sword

Well is can work better because Final Thrust hits as hard as Eviscerate when target is below 50% and Sword has more condi presure than Axe/Sword with more CC to and a Burst that set ups Final Thrust if you want

I still dream with GS

dominik.9721:

I think,04406 is much better.burst-mastery is still a key-skill for longbowbuilds

So every Warrior build is locked not only to a weapon that is LB but also to 6 points deep into a trait line alone? No thanks

I might leave this game for a while, not getting much fun with Warrior and Guardian
GS Warrior is challeging and I love the weapon but on other hand get pretty hard counter by lot of specs

DrDivine.5378:

Penguin.7906:

hambow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJASTjMdUGaXIWhQHagqgC9iHAPg6eoxzhUbAA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACuAAk2f4YZAA

GSbow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUGaXIWhwJaAmgCZnPBHT7AQ9T85LBA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACuAAk2f4YZAA

Macebow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNApcTjMdUGahHWhwJaghgC9KUCxgxA4nVGGxOA-TpRHwAFeAAc2fIwRAAwhAQwJA4YZAA

Axebow (barely viable):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAncTjMdUGaXIWhwJaghgC9rXCxgpAQdYE7dBA-TpBHwAAeAACOCABOEADOBAl2fAZZAA

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SwordHybrid:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAscTjMdUGaXIWhwJagqgC9iHANg6eoxj9UbAA-TpRHwAFeAABOCAAOEACOBAk2f4YZAA

Would you say that axebow (celestial axe) is not really a viable competitive build anymore? Or is it viable and just harder to play now?

Still viable, but since Eviscerate is so hard to land and the build is heavy realiant on that skill, it makes a bit less viable than Hambow. But if well played it will work fine still

Today I saw the ToG EU games. All teams had at least 1 Guard. One got 3 (2 DPS and 1 Bunker) and won both games

Where, in hells, are we fading away from competitive PvP?

dominik.9721:

I guess Rom played those builds a few days ago so I think, they are already published.

Really? Where? Gotta to see them

Hey guys
So we all know the ripoff we got on GS, but this did not made me give up on my favourite weapon and so I still want to make it work. The dream pf it becoming cloe to meta one day is still up, lets hope someday we get it.

Anyway after lots of tries I came up with 2 builds for this weapon, and I want you to tell me what do you think of them.
Note that all builds are Zerker, I tried Celestial with GS but I don’t like it much.

First build 4/0/6/0/4
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd01ZVIOewJagfgCdQ0C5gxAYAU+G5OA-TpBFwACuAANOEA12fIxRAoaZAAPAAA

This variation gets more HP, damage on dodge and endurance on burst skill usage, plus more damage on GS. I like it the most but is it the most effective? Also here I have Dolyak Signet for 2 reasons. Most of the times I only use stab for finishing so having extra toughness during the fight when we are zerker is really nice and the cd difference is not that big to balance stance when traited. Also 2 stances all the time gets boting after a while.
Bolas is a must have to set up 100b and I think it’s better than bulls rush because cd is half of bulls rush and the skills is not all buggy has bulls rush is.

Second build 0/4/6/0/4
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd01ZVIOewJaAmgC9JMBfwxIIAUWFfOA-TpBFwACuAANOEAl2fIxRAoaZAAPAAA
This build loses damage on dodge, hp and power, but allows for easy might stack, damage modifier when might is all (so all the time) and allows more vun stacks on enemy which is allways nice. Also 10% more crit change on burst skill. Now we all know the burst skills on GS is not that good and the “buff” did not make it muuch better but now I think its a bit worth using because it’s AoE, damage is the same on any adrenaline lvl and makes fury allmost permanent. Idk how to do damage calcs so I don’t know wich can be more effective but I think the first one is better

And to finish the Celestial version I came up with (not that I use it, but this I theory crafted before patch it. I never really tried it that hard but nevertheless I would like to know what do you think):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd01ZVIOewJaAmgC9JMBfwxEIAUWFfOA-TphFwAAuAAMeAAj2fAxhA4wRAwZZAA

So guys what do you think?
To finalize, I use this builds in solo q since that is the arena I play the most. I don’t have a dedicated team and I think I will never have because college take to much time allong with my band. So this months will be pretty much just PvP.

GS can work if well played but needs set up for burst, otherwise you will be with pretty much 4 skills since 100b will never hit decently. I was out 1 week because of college and this weekend I tried GS with Berserker, 4/0/6/0/4 and Pack Runes. Pretty good and way better now after patch. I know GS burst skills did not got the buff it deserved but at least hits at a lvl that I think it might compensate depending on the situation.

Bow is pretty much the class for PvP. I think at this point ANet should rename us to Bow instead of Warrior. But I still like it since I allways liked the combo of a melee and a range weapon.

boxchar.6932:

mPascoal.4258:

I would be a Thief if my love for GS wasn’t even bigger, which forces me to go either Guardian or Warrior if I want to be somewhat viable in all areas of the game.

GS? :o

Yeah, the Greatsword. Gotta love them all. If I could I would buy some to put on my wall in my room, maybe when I get to work and get some money

I would be a Thief if my love for GS wasn’t even bigger, which forces me to go either Guardian or Warrior if I want to be somewhat viable in all areas of the game.

GS Burst will do more damage with Armored Attack instead of Burst Mastery. Also Rune of Strength is better with Celestial for the 5% damage, unless you go with Dogged March, but you shouldn’t go with that when you have 3 Stances IMO. Just saying

Also with Armored Attack and Defy Pain you have another Endure Pain, wich opens space for Throw Bolas or even Bulls Charge

This Vee Wee looks like Falcon lover talking
Is that you falcon lover? Where’s the 360 no scopes?

It’s like talking to a brick wall, you keep saying the same things.
Since sence can’t be put into you, goodbye

nicknamenick.2437:

There sustain is great in 1vs1 situations and there burst is higher compared to warr..

but there is also something wrong with retaliation.. hope they fix that first.

Thats why, Warrior meta builds don’t really rely on burst damage. What builds relys on burst damage without using pure damage amulet like Berserker? Sure they should have more burst when meta Warrior uses Soldier and Celestial and still hits hard as a truck.

Also, burst damage =/= burst skill. Warrior meta rely on those, Hambow to stun lock target, Axe/Sw for the huge damage you can still get from that with a amulet as Celestial that work wonder with that weapon set. Not to mention Longbow

Oh you were talking about burst damage on other builds? Pal, others builds don’t work, they all got nerfed

ANet way of thinking:

Well we have 2 really strong build on this class, ppl complain that they are too strong because of the Longbow and that this weapon should be nerfed. What do you guys think?

Some random guy aka the boss
Don’t nerf it, I need to be somewhat strong in my class, nerf everything else isntead

DONE!

Do you do anythign else beside crying? Cry over Warrior (I got that, I felt it a bit too) and now cry over a spec that never was OP, and it sure as hell it was not a 2k heal on a 72 CD skills that made it OP.
This is obvious L2P issue.
I main this role in PvP and I sure can tell I did not found much of a difference before patch and now, role plays out pretty much the same way as before, which is you go and won or you die. LITERALLY we go into a fight you better pray to not get outnumbered otherwise GG. WE can’t escape and those sustain habilities are the only thing keeping us alive for the little time we will be alive once we get in a bad spot.

Kjeldoran.3849:

mPascoal.4258:

Your example is bad. Just like blowing all Shouts at the same time for condi clear is extremely stupid. And since you used that “argument” to try to “prove” Medi is too good that needs a nerf on healing (like 2k heal is so OP, those 12k we would get would melt 2 secs after) so that support becomes more relevant (already is, Medi changes did not make Support any worse, if anything they might make it a bit better with Renewed Focus CD reduced, but too ltitle to notice, Bunker Guardian will still be wanted more than Meditation any day) somehow, I will end my contribution here by saying this.

Play Medi Guardian, it’s obvious that you never tried it deep enough to argue about it’s position compared to Support/Bunker Guardian. Support was allways in a good spot for Guardian and still is, even compared to other professions. Now they can support too which is great but they sure did not push Guardian off the table and they never will.

My example was an example and the simple fact that you actually get 12k heals, 20 sec fury and numbers of effect is simply… i dont want to say OP… but WRONG. Guardian is earning even more offensive abilities while it is supposed to be one of the best support class in the game and ACTUALLY it is one of the worst support and “not enough” at damage. At the actual state of the game the best support class are engineers (just look at boon spam and water blasts) and, if well played, elementalists.

And to reduce heals from meditations isn’t something of strange just follow me:
4 meditations = 8k heal
5 meditations = 10k heal
5 med (1.6k each) = 8k heal
got it? Also to “nerf” heals from meditations can actually help because in a game with even more zerg oriented mentality what whould you do with a “nerfed” dps? Go support, which is most natural thing to do for guardians. Not that we should do 0 damage but simply we should get more love on the support ability than dps.

PS: oh sorry but i actually play medi guard in pvp and … well heals from meditations is in a good spot… no wait WAS in a good spot NOW it is even more! It is not wrong the idea to give more heal, it is wrong to give even more heal on the same skillset!

Right we are in so bad spot for support but we are still one of the most wanted classes in the game. Ppl never complained about having a Guardian, ppl ask for them for dgns, for PvP and for WvW, if ppl ask for us to be there we can’t be in a bad spot at all. Also it’s not wrong to get more heal when other classes got mroe damage and more conditions, heck do you think straight? Give other more damage and keep us with the same sustain? Like Medi is that hard to kill. Also you said was in a good spot now is even more. I don’t see what is bad about that, it did not became OP and as you said left us in a good spot still.

As ppl also said before those support otehr classes give are mainly via combo fields and blast finishers. Do you want to give Guardian a Water field? Where is the logic about a light magic class using water magic now? Right, none. Also Engineer support is in so good spot, is so much better that Guardians support, that it’s not even in top tier PvP, while Guardian Bunker/Support is (You see ppl hate AI builds and also those don’t work well in organized PvP, Engineer at top lvls will never bring that boon spam and will never be wanted for there support, it will be for there AOE, condi spam, CC, etc etc). Oops, another “argument” down.

You also mention another DPS boost for us with Vunerability being stacked when ppl attack Light Aura. You see Vunerability is also a way of support, you know why? Because it’s not just boosting your DPS, is boosting you team mates DPS too. THIS IS SUPPORT. The thing is you only think of support has boon spam, Regen, Heals, Protection, which is not. Heck most meta builds that have support (like ours) don’t give it in from of boons and regen, Blocks, Vunerability Stacks, Reflection, Blinds, this are all support habilities because they affect your allies too in a good way, it helps them.

Really this is just a kitten topic for not having Support (*cof**cof*Shouts *cof**cof*) buffed when Support is already the strongest aspect we have and on par with others if not better.

Kjeldoran.3849:

Guys … that was an “extreme” example… i know meditations have to be used with criteria… BUT spam them all togheter give you more than you expect! really… that is like an anti-panic button easy to use, with great results and devasting effects over enemies…

Your example is bad. Just like blowing all Shouts at the same time for condi clear is extremely stupid. And since you used that “argument” to try to “prove” Medi is too good that needs a nerf on healing (like 2k heal is so OP, those 12k we would get would melt 2 secs after) so that support becomes more relevant (already is, Medi changes did not make Support any worse, if anything they might make it a bit better with Renewed Focus CD reduced, but too ltitle to notice, Bunker Guardian will still be wanted more than Meditation any day) somehow, I will end my contribution here by saying this.

Play Medi Guardian, it’s obvious that you never tried it deep enough to argue about it’s position compared to Support/Bunker Guardian. Support was allways in a good spot for Guardian and still is, even compared to other professions. Now they can support too which is great but they sure did not push Guardian off the table and they never will.

mPascoal.4258:

I main Guardian, I was thinking of maining Warrior before knowing the Guardian changes.
Now I’m not sre but it is still in the table. Maybe after season 2 ends

Nevermind. Maining Warrior is never gonna happen
Ty Anet for the GS changes. They suck

Since GS was the only thing decent to get buffed in a sea of nerfs to the Warrior I was really disapointing with this. I thought GS could become viable but it will not be. Warrior will stay Hambow and Axe/Sword Bow Meta with Adrenaline Nerf, wich that one is fine by me and deserverd

Well and I just wasted 200g on my Warrior pre patch because of the exciment of GS being viable for nothing. BACK TO GUARDIAN

Ty Anet, sold all my inverntory so I could get my Warrior on the lvl I wanted to nothing.

Kjeldoran.3849:

Now in order to make this thread a bit usefull for Devs here are some changes i would like to see:

-Monks Focus: heal reduce to 1500
why? because actual heal is so big, you can actually heal yourself for 12k in 1 sec while devasting enemies and curing condition and gaining fury and a coffe why not…

-Stand Your Ground
CD: 25 sec (20 traited) 5 sec stability & retailation
-Hold The Line
CD: 25 sec (20 traited) 5 sec protection & regeneration
-Retreat
CD: 40 sec (32 traited) 15 sec swiftness & 10 sec Aegis
-Save Yourselves
CD: 50 sec (40 traited) 10 sec all boons
why? SYG and HTL with 20 sec cd can give only 25% prot, retailation, stability and regen uptime. Do you think it is so much? An engineer can stack 30% prot uptime with 1 trait. Also the new Retreat can stack the same ammount of swiftness but the lower cd help us to keep it also for condi removal and SY… why 60 sec cd if it is already balanced to sacrifice ourself taking every condition around to only get some buffs? And it also got half duration in pvp! 50 sec are still too many but that would be a good update anyway.

-Sanctuary
CD: 90sec same effect 240 radius
why? … 120 sec cd? 120 radius? …

-Merciful Intervention
CD: 40 sec with the new teleport effect should be good if the heal stay on 2k.
why? 2k heal on a 40 sec (32 traited) skill is too much? it is about 62.5 hp sec even anti-toxin spay heals more!

Really? Reduce heal of Meditations? The way you describe the usage of meditation is for a Guardian to pop all at once. Good job, any Medi Guard that does that is a dead Guardian. Do you even played the spec before to give kittenty sugestions about changing it? I don’t think so. Don’t be all kitten just because your build didn’t change.

Also ppl say here Guardian Support is so inferior to other classes support, but last time I checked the best PvP team in all Guild Wars 2, TCG (The Civilized Gentleman aka Team Mist) used a bunker/support Guardian, and beat all the other team in the All stars quite easy. They also used an Ele, they did not repalced the Guardian for the Ele.
Bunker/Support Guardian is still in a strong position and very wanted in PvP

About the rest of the changes, I think they are nice, but it’s not gonna happen.

ALSO, be happy for this change to the Guardian. They are the Best buffs this class ever got since lauch

Cultural T3, best armor for Sylvari heavy
Or TA

New Sigil and Runes are coming.
What do you think of criple on crit and on dodge? Evasion runes give criple on dodge and 6th bonus and Ferocity has main stat. They also give Fury and Swifness for 5 secs

Hey guys
I have an Ele, it was actually my first lvl 80. Idk I got a bit bored of it tried Guardian and since then I’ve pretty much mained Guardian (with a little pouse for Thief).

So since I don’t play ele for serious in like over a year, and since Staff was my favourite weapon and I know its viable now in PvP I wanted to know which are the most comon Ele Staff builds for tPvP and the ones more “friendly” to begin with.

I main Guardian, I was thinking of maining Warrior before knowing the Guardian changes.
Now I’m not sre but it is still in the table. Maybe after season 2 ends

I don’t get you at all. Guardian was allways strong of the supportive side, still is and will still be.
What do you talk about really?

PvE – Ppl want Guardians all the time, reflection, condi removal, party blocks, blinds, really good DPS. What do you want more for support? Shouts being viable? I run 2 shouts most of the time not traited and they still work just fine for what I need from them. some support builds you talked there ppl don’t want ever. Shouts heal Warrior? Who wants that crap in PvE really? Turret Engineer? Ppl usually don’t even want Engineer, but if they are there they want them to go damage, not turrets. Same with Rangers. AI builds in PvE are crap.

PvP – Meditations buffs is nice, we got some more viability in a DPS role, which is nice. NA meta doesn’t use much of bunkers, but in EU they do, most Guardians are still wanted as bunker support, where Shouts shine. I really don’t enjoy bunker role and as DPS Guard, Meditations are a bless. And if you see well they are pretty much the only viable way for us to DPS in PvP. Ppl try Shouts sometimes but any Shout dps Guardian will lose to Meditations any day, I think we deserve the buff, if we are locked to a spec to do damage viably in PvP, make that spec viable in the PvP snario, which is what they are doing.

WvW – Unless you roam, you will never got Meditations. Guess wich spec is the most common again. SHOUTS. Shouts with AH is the most common spec for Guardian in WvW for zergs. That or Virtues Guardian, wich also uses Shouts or Concecrations and also focus on Support

I really don’t get what is your problem, the support side of the Guardian was allways the strongest, and will still be wanted everyday

Strength in numbers is not part of the meta, so it’s not that of a surprise seeing Guardians not use it. It’s not that good for dgns has toughtness is kinda useless there. You are better with protection. This is why Warriors don’t run Banner of Defence eitheir, it’s useless even when party has more than 2 Warriors. They are better running signet of eitehr precision or power, On My Mark, FGJ.
About the pop of Virtues, well that might actually be plain out just bad mangement of Guardian skills as maybe they were getting used to the class. But hey popping them randomly is not that good too.
Was it really needed to pop them?

I don’t think I’m top PvE with Guardian. In PvE I know I’m decent, and with the dgns I know and farm the most I’m good. But I kinda have this problem too. Recently I’ve tried to main Warrior (got a bit tired of my Sylvari Guardian and the Warrior changes had me really excited till I saw Medi Guardian getting a bit buffed) and I get the same problems. Guardians that don’t want to use WoR, Guardians that still believe Cleric is the master gear for Guardians and that Cleric Healer is the best role for PvE (I had a couple of this in my previous guild and boy I really had to hold on a bit to not rage to the non-sence) and not to mention the staff might stack Guardians, the most comon plague of Guardian pugs (I have a staff only for TA and nothing beside that).

Advices? I don’t think I have any, you are better than me in PvE, but since I’ve become used to Berserker Guardian I usually look for other Berserker Parties. I got to stay up better on those than with other kinda of parties. Anything beside that leave it.

Tarkan.5609:

if there really are 4 confusion stacks on the guard sometimes then that should be the master (4 points) trait in strength of the warrior, where he applies 4 stacks of confusion on interrupt
if you want to see the best players around watch the weekly ESL, top teams are for example cheese mode, 55hp monks, ctg (i think its ctg right?)

ah yeah btw, going after the gw2 all star tourni (i think it was called) the best warrior = ROM, thief = sizer, guardian = tage, mesmer = helseth, ele = denshee

Easy fella
Tage best Guardian? Best bunker Guardian yes it is. This is about Medi Guardians so far and he is not one of them I think (never actually saw him play it serious, only is some solo q in Stream, but since NA meta doesn’t use bunker Guardian too much ther must be some Guardian that play Medi better than Tage)

Nhymx is not one of the best Warriors around. Guardian, problably, he alreay did a lot of builds and a lot of them work, but none had come to meta or nearly there. He tries to avoid that I think.
Stella is a good Guardian but his build is plain out crap vs Warrior. It relies too much on Symbol damage IMO and those are realy easy to avoid in WvW. Any decent player should know how to avoid them and with that out Mace goes with 1 skill to do damage which is #3, and I say this because AA is so slow and its damage its not that great that it should only be used while swap is on CD. This is why Sword or Scepter are better for WvW. Mace/Focus & GS can work nicely for Medi in sPvP, but since both used their WvW builds and battled in open spaces where they can simulate the “areas” of WvW, Stella was bound to lose from the beginning.

Rothem.8174:

killahmayne.9518:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dnkIS5Q2NEWDB/QmIeoqKAweK+vK96fIIyBA-TJxHwADuCAa2fAwDBQZZAA

I’ve used this in tourney’s with some pretty good success, I get some nice might stacks.

Of course you can switch the Force of Will for 20% CD on 2 handed weapons which isn’t bad. Sometimes I play GS/Hammer instead. Or you could take the 1 extra point in honor and put it in virtues for more might stacking, or put it into radiance for the blind on virtue of justice. There are a lot of ways you can play around with the build. But the constant is pretty much at least 2/x/6/5/x for me and the use of GS and having some really good might stacking capability. Sometimes I will switch the sigil of energy on one of my weapons for doom.

Or for some non-might stacking variants you could go Pack Runes. Since this pretty much gives you 6% more crit chance and 50% uptime on fury, I will switch out the fury on meditation for Strength in Numbers for more toughness to me and my team. And probably switch out the battle sigils for something like air/fire on a GS.

Is there any reason why you use litany of wrath over shelter?

I’ve been using litany of wrath quite a bit and I find that it gives me slightly better sustain. I’m currently using GS/Hammer, so shelter seems to be the only way to get off blocks to might stack.

I’ve been considering switching to Hammer/SwFc with litany of wrath because Sword3 and Focus5 give blocks, but then without WW from GS, litany of wrath heals for so much less…

Is litany of wrath worth using over shelther, with GS/Hammer??

With GS/Hammer no. With anything else, Idk but I will say no. Shelter is still the best heal Imo

I also did not ask for a new build
What i want to know is what ppl use, their experience with other variations beside 2/1/6/1/4. Meditation are selfish from them selfs already, is Absolute Resulotion so important if (since we are a bit squishy) we most likely will not use it for party cleanse and for our cleanse? I know the rest of the virtue line gives support with boons too, but still

For those who play more damage instead of party support, is it possible to kill D/D eles with that?

Zefrost.3425:

I made my guardian 80 with Zealot stats (power, precision, healing power) but never played it because of the amount of terrible traits in zeal and radiance.

However, with the upcoming buffs, I’m currently thinking of meditation guard with zealots stats that is 4/0/6/4/0 with hammer, greatsword and ice runes (vitality, ice nova when hit and damage increase against chilled foes).

I understand that zealous blade is a low heal, but with zealot stats the heal is pretty much doubled. Also, glacial heart is getting a pretty good buff by being 15s cooldown and I do like my chills.

Think it’s a viable meditation build?

Zealots aren’t even in the PvP options. This is about sPvP not WvW or PvE

Hey guys
From the topic I’ve made so far you must know I play Meditation Guardian as main in PvP. I’ve tried many options of sigils and runes but allways with the same build, the generic 2/1/6/1/4.

Today I’m here to ask you what do you usually run with Meditation, what do you think its the best variation and Runes/Sigil you run with them.

Other popular Meditation builds that I’ve try and seen are:

2/5/6/x/x – Sw/F & GS – This is a burst Medi build that uses GS
2/6/6/0/0 – SW/F & Sc/Tr – This is the burst Medi. This usually doesn’t pack GS because of the last trait on Radiance, but it can also pack it if you want. If I run this I don’t use GS
2/0/6/6/0 – M/F & GS – This build offers nice damage with symbols and from mace block. I think from all Medi builds this is the one that offers most sustain

Okay this is the list of variations that I’ve tried. What makes me go 2/1/6/1/4 is the adicional condi removal you can offer to you party and your self. What sometimes makes me go with another is that most of the times I don’t use the condi remval for my team but rather for myself, and I mean I just look for my condis, I use the Virtue of Resolve without checking on my allies to many times and then i think “If I’m being selfish anyway, might as well do more damage”.

What do you guys think? I’ve made this topic after reading about one guy having problem beating D/D Eles. When I run into them I usually am with the 2/1/6/1/4 so I’m a bit lie in his situation. I know its a stall fight, most eles might know it too but can’t we overcome with more damage? Or maybe with Sigil of Doom in one of the weapon sets?

Bunker will use Tomes now. Stability was the thhing that turn off most ppl because the long cast times would make you an obvious target to get interrupted. Now Thieves will also be wanted even more in team fight because they will be the only ones able to stop such castings (I’m referring to number 5 on Tome of Courage, idk the name).

Also another medi and I might even try Tome of Wrath now in a damage Guard build.

Boy gotta love this changes

Awesome changes overall. kitten Finally some Guardian love. took 2 years to do so but boy

Idk if Sipirit Weapon builds will become a thing yet, they are kinda weird as goes for trait placement, but they will be more useful now

Medi Guard more viable for PvP finally. Hope this finish some racism vs medi Guard at least in EU I still get it from time to time

Awesome CHANGES

Renewed Focus will become a Meditation
MI is ground targeting skill, but it will only port if you use it on an allie. Still really good change. I’m still no sure if I will use in it on my regular Medi Guard Build and Comtemplation is still kinda needed for condi clear, but its still a really nice change for support Guardian

Tomes change are also really nice. I’ll try Tome of Wrath for my offencive build now and Tome of Courage will be an option for support Guardian now with Stability there we can try and cast number 5 a bit more secured (Thiefs will still be able to interrupt it but they will have to pay attention)

OMG I’m really excited for these changes. I don’t think we had such good changes in a while

Artaz.3819:

Torment on scepter auto attack

LOLOLOLOLOL

I’m kinda afraid now and nervous about the Ready Up. So litle time left

I think this could be a great idea but as ppl here said It’s most likely not gonna happen. Neither this or anything like this

ANet wanted us to hold ppl, support, be in the heat of battle, them gives us a game where none of that kitten is useful except of some areas in PvP (and NA PvP meta doesn’t even uses bunker guards so, romaing I guess, where ANet doesn’t even look) and refuses to change it.

And this is pretty much it. Since they will stay with the same idea they will not make this viable. Has they will also never make getaway options for us or movement speed increase

DrOrange.9230:

You cant’ lose with hambow if you have 2 braincells to rub together :p

Boy, thats a way to call most of the Warrior comunity dumb. GJ

Relentliss.2170:

Rune of Pack – just straight out good. Nice stat boosts with a nice buff on hit.

Rune of the Citadel – 50%+ upkeep of fury – can then take Defender’s Flame so when you are blocking people they are copping damage as well insead of Focused Mind. This is an oddly good rune. The bomb is kind of lol.

Flame Legion has the 1 sec burn on hit, which is quite nasty.

Strength – If you are trying to stack might you need to use the 5 trait in Valor. You can then use things like Mace block, focus and Shelter to get it up quite high. This is where Strength runes are quite nice. If you look at the Stella videos he opens with mace and then switches to GS.

With everything there is a bit of tradeoff. I have been using strength, but have had success with the others too. Life Leeching is not very effective in this game.

I’ve seen Stella videos. I just don’t like that build all that much compared to this one because of the team support wich is quite lacking with her build. The only thing she has to support her team is the Empowering Might wich gives might on crit with 1 sec CD

To Strength runes I thought of just using Sigil of Strength and Sigil of Battle instaed of Blood and Leeching. I’ll also try that out.

Other runes that are quite nice, not so OP right now but they still work is Pirate. The Parrot even nerfed is still quite strong (I use it on my Engi buil and still work just fine) and it will be a big help in any 1 v 1 and it gives 3 might stack for whole team. I don’t like to rely too much on AI but it’s just one pet not a whole team of them (like I use on my Turret Engi, most OP kitten ever)

From all the testing I did so far, never interrupted me a Shelter. When my health is at that range there is either 2 options. You will die because you don’t have Shelter or you have Shlefter and you don’t.
Also might stacking on Guard alone is awful. Rune of Strength shines when such thing is actually good like of War or Ele. Becuase the damage modifier is good and might too, but what makes them so strong is when you can stack you really high might and have the modifier. I forgot to mention that option but from what I’ve tested most of the times with Strength doesn’t shine that much compered to other Runes at least for me and from my experience. I’ve got better results with Pack.

But thanks for the feedback also forgot to mention those runes so I’ll put hem there.

As the title says I want to know what you guys think of these rune set for Medi Guard?
I’ve tried this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAsdRlsApaodDxcI8DVR8QlZK+i2UVAgz1/QQkDA-TpBFwACOCANOEAEOBA62foaZAAPAAA

Now my thoughts. Well this is the most comon Medi Guard build. It’s not really the most bursty Medi can be but it’s the safer and the one that offers the most team support. Most Guards on Virtues go for Absolute Resolution but you can switch that trait anytime if you see that the enemy team is not condi heavy and take for instance Indomitable Courage and get Stability for save stomps on you or on your allies. With this in mind I looked for things that could actually hlep me sustain more while doing damage. I thought of what I use in WvW Roaming, life steal. It feats really well. Not only the build I’m using uses 4 different Sigils. This means they all have separate coldowns, so you know they will allways proc (for instance if you use Air/Fire on S/F and Fire on GS, if you proc Fire on Air and switch to GS, it will be on CD on the GS. The coldown is not that long but can make a difference).

Okay for sigils we are covered but what Runes should I use? This is where I got a bit stuck and this build has lot of options.

Rune of the Flame Legion - Burn Duration and 7% Damage modifier on burning foes, to proc with Fiery Wrath. Idk if many ppl use it but it’s an option, and a good one.

Rune of the Traveler - This here it’s good just because of the 25% speed increase. You also have Rune of Speed but I think Traveler works better because of 10% condi duration (so a bit more burning duration to help with damage), 15% boon duration (you already have 20%, 35% is not worse thats for sure) and 36 of all stats. I think the worst about it is the 36 of all stats. it’s a minor difference and cuts the damage by a quite a bit while the sustain difference is unnoticeable. But the mobility is too good to let go when we are working with a romaing build on a class that doesn’t have acess to swiftness with this spec neitheir any other way to increase mobility.

Rune of Speed - Same thing for Traveler, but this gives more sustain because of the Vitality has main stat. But Swiftness duration is a bit useless since we don’t have acess to it besides the one we gain from the rune it self. But since the rune already gives 25% speed increase that swiftness goes a bit unnoticeable.

Rune of the Pack - One of my favourites. Power and Precision increase by over 100 on both. Also has a chance to give Power, Fury and Swiftness when struck to you and nearvy allies. One of the best for the spec.

Rune of the Ogre - Damage increase and a pet. All bonus are usefull. Another great option.

Rune of Strength - Damage modifier when might in on. You will most likely have might on when you are bursting because of Virtue of Justice so the damage modifier will proc when bursting. All bonus are useful since Guard has some sources of might, although it’s a bit hard to stack up might all that high on Guard alone. Still a really viable option. One of the bests

With all this options I have never actually seen a Medi Guard with Rune of Vampirism, but why? I think, with my Sigil choice, there is no other Rune that completes it best. It gives more life steal when struck, after heal usage (so even more heal) and finally the mist. Well I think the mist might be what turn most ppl off maybe but it’s amaizing I think. It helps so much when you are in a tought situation and you need to breath a bit but don’t have how (because Guardian doesn’t really have how) and that invulnarability works wonders on those times. The downside is that, if you are on point is more invulnarability that helps the decap. But thanks to that mist I’ve alos had a couple of secure stomps on 1 v 1s

So, what do you guys think of this Rune set? What do you guys think of the other Rune sets compared to this one? I wanted to know this because I believe that I’ve never actually seen a Medi Guard with this Rune option on. I also wanted to share my opinion about this and the other Runes options we have for this buid.

Tourment on a AA. The condition that bring the condition “meta” to PvP. One of the strongest condis at the moment on a AA.

Way to go Anet. AI wasn’t enough for braindead specs we also needed this. Because Mesmer were in a terrible place to begin with.

If only ppl listened to the ppl who know how to PvP like the creators of the classes “Metas” and the players on top tier PvP to do their balance instead of just coming with this crappy ideas, that would be great.

Here video so that you see, from the best Mesmer player, how Scepter will dominate.
Because Condi Mesmer weren’t strong enough already.

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/c/4965699

Hey guys
Just wanted to ask if you think D/P might replace S/P in PvE now that will attack more than 1 target? I know D/D will stay because it’s the best vs champs but since I think AA from Dagger might do more damage since they have acess to damage modifiers I was wondering if we might get a D/D D/P PvE “Meta” or it will stay with D/D S/P

Is this a troll topic? I feel like this is a troll topic

Is it? Hum…

I think it is

And what about Celestial amulet? We know most if not all Celestial builds rely on might stack and GS warrior has plenty. Also since Longbow will be even more mandatory next patch we will also have some nice condi damage. But in order od this to work you need at least 5 in defence otherwise you will lost to much power IMO

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd04ZVImdwJaAmgCdnPBfwxEIAUWFfOA-TphFwAAeAAMuAAj2fIxhA4wRAwZZAA

dominik.9721:

I tried a lot of greatsword builds… 6/0/4/0/4…..0/5/5/0/4…..4/0/4/0/6…6/0/2/0/6 with longbow or axe. They’re fun to play but far away from beeing copetitive.
Anyway, I guess these builds will getting weaker with the patch. whirlwhind which is your main dmg will deal less dmg and the new f1 doesn’t look worth to use it instead of longbow f1.

And he just said damage is the same at any lvl of adrenaline and with burst mastery you can use Longbow burst and use arcling slice right away and keep the damage

GS that I’ve tried, the best for me is 4/0/6/0/4 with Pack runes for more crit and fury gain. Of course with the new burst skill, Burst Mastery might worth taking but till then Idk. Defy Pain really heps when you play so squishy. Also for GS builds you will most likely end up with Bulls change for 100b langing, that another reason I prefer getting Defy Pain

I’m also excited with the new GS changes, it’s because of those that I’m thinking in maining Warrior and I’m in a process of doing so. Only think that might take me back now is if Guardian gets some really cool change as for damage specs in PvP beside Spirit Weapons (cut the AI crap already) and they end up getting so criple or chills, leap or Merciful Intervention being ground target. If they get one of those I might consider, as they are I’m changing.

From the current meta I prefer Axe celestial. The current meta builds will not change I think and will stay, just will be lot harder to play.

Also for Runes have you thought of Runes of the Eagle? +6 Damage on targets below 50% hp, it might be a nice proc to have with the new Arcing Slice, plus with 4/0/4/0/6 will help getting more crit since I think you will be at 43% without fury with those runes. Idk just testing the waters when patch comes as it is it’s hard to predict what will work best without proper testing.

I love the Warrior QQ. This is the new class I’m trying to main, after maining Guardian and Thief and god, if you think you are getting nerfed to the ground you either are a bit braindead.
You should try another classes.
Like really try them, like getting them to 80, do some PvP. I have 1 Warrior at 80 and I’m lvling the second since the first one was kinda rushed with tomes. I don’t use it in PvE just PvP, thats why I’m lvling another, nice and slow.

Please keep me laughing

I don’t see how it will not. It will be lot harder to play but there aren’t any significan’t changes that throw the build to the trash i think