This matchup is so much more fun than I expected it to be so far. Thanks dw and BLAK for the fun fights! Also cheers to the french infantry, you guys just never give up, I love the spirit
This is gonna be good.
Slacker you missed me leading TDISUA!
Why was I not informed in advance?!
This is gonna be good.
If we were blobbing in the same way as mya do (they may run all as one guild with no randoms, but 30+ is a blob no matter if they all have the same guild tag)
O wow that´s interesting. So in your logic a guild should not run together as a squad or maybe split in 6 x 5 man groups over 4 maps ? Please first think and then write.
Actually, some big guilds have done that @ Gandara in the past, they divided a rather sizable guild group into 2 groups instead of just mindlessly steamrolling around and everyone had more fun, on both enemy and friendly side as there was no silly skill lag and blobbing. Please think first and then write.
Lol that´s really the most stupid strategy i´ve ever heard of. You guys are so obsessed of your ridiculous idea of how wvw works, please come back when you get your sense of realism back. Or better, please leave wvw and rent yourself a tpvp server, there you can do awesomz skillzfull smallz scale all dayz. hahaha, unbelievable you really made my day.
We all have tpvp servers, if they were fun we’d be doing that now wouldn’t we? It’s not a smart strategy points-wise, but it is a smart strategy when it comes to having fun, which is what one generally aims to do in a game. You know, play and have fun?
I’m pretty sure we generated only 5 PPT last night (when we needed a camp to get supplies to make goal posts), but we had an awesomely fun night last night and it definitely didn’t include any large groups. Thanks to Riot, Mya, BNF and Bots and any others I might have missed for the awesome times yesterday! Definitely one of the most memorable WvW nights for me xD
It takes two (or three) sides in any game to have fun and luckily some people on our opposing servers are providing that fun still in bucket loads
Teeheehee, so much fun.
If we were blobbing in the same way as mya do (they may run all as one guild with no randoms, but 30+ is a blob no matter if they all have the same guild tag)
O wow that´s interesting. So in your logic a guild should not run together as a squad or maybe split in 6 x 5 man groups over 4 maps ? Please first think and then write.
4 × 5 over 4 maps, the other two groups need to do PvE and be substitutes for when one of the active groups gets tired!
Thanks to [AMOK] for the fun yesterday! You have some scary bursts there at times
So lets announce a bit.
Thursday evening Duels&Groupfights&Crazy fun with TDA hopefully!
Location: Dzagonur BL South of South Supply camp at the Mill.
Time 2100 (UTC+1)Golf?
“Golf” …
or “Bollaball”
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9NGVoGX8Rg
That’s pretty epic
Well women normaly like sweet things right? I won’t go in the other conotation ^^
Yes, I’m sure she loves the taste of it. But that’s not how I was using it.
Noooooo do not hit some cute BNF asuras !!!!!
You recruited cute ones now? OO
If Nem gives me a night off Ill be the ball, since I am very experienced in that role within golf
I love using my candy cane on you. Oh crap, you’re on the wrong server now
I’ll be there anyway, try and hit some BNF asuras, they better not use aegis though >.>
Well first of all the best blobbing Guild still is Zumy!
And on the other hand our BNF blobs can’t be stopped!
To be honest latly we have rather good numbers online, feels kinda weird to almost always have 5 people online at Primetime for roaming.
And that’s how it starts.
single roaming leads to duo roaming
duo leads to small groups
small groups leads to big groups
big groups to … suffering
Let’s just agree that by population alone, dzagonur is probably the least blobbing server this week :P
I’d agree, if it weren’t for the fact that BNF is such a blob guild, they put blobadon to shame
Good luck RoF, suppose a matchup with AG is about as bad as with Gandara. Just make the best of it, like you did against our numbers.
So far it’s worse because DL don’t seem to be pulling their usual sort of numbers and we haven’t got a second server the size of you or MS so there isn’t much holding AG in check atm, guess we’ll see how it go’s but AG need more competition from DL atm.
I wonder what RoF ever did to some Anet employee to cause the matchups you’ve had. If it’s only a couple of ranks higher you can pretend that it’ll give you incentive to improve, but with some of these differences there’s just really nothing you can do.
The worst part is that the bigger server gets an extra influx of players seeking free … well whatever they think they’ll get out of it, while the smaller server gets less people as they get demotivated.
Wake up Anet, wake up!
Good luck RoF, suppose a matchup with AG is about as bad as with Gandara. Just make the best of it, like you did against our numbers.
Well I’m happy when we are spared to get rushed from a Zerg, but on the other hand i don’t care cause thats what makes roaming thrilling.
Just send them ahead as uhm forward scouts climba! That way it is easier to spot them :p
You’ll be able to spot my signature weapon at least
But roger that, the BNF hunt is hearby started!
Gandara BL was really bad, being able to get out of Combat and regen Health while staying in “theoretical” close combat with buka and various other Enemies was mmh strange :p
Miller Bl was a bit better just the normal reset lag and Zerg spikes.
We definitly need to mix something up Cimba. We even training Popstars just for such events!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXU9EHO558So far Bollaball or an Siege/Costumbrawl Obstacle Golfcourse would be nice i think. Zumy would need an Asura to be the Ball i think, otherwise it would be hard work kicking him around!
You have no idea how hard it was to restrain ourselves from poking you around at the ruins, sadly we were blob size compared to you, so it wouldn’t have been very fair
As you will do it with great love, I wont be mad! <3
Your name sucks. Mine is so much prettier.
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I’m pretty sure every single guild has a private sPvP server or access to one. It just doesn’t play anything like a normal GvG. Guilds fighting guilds is more in the WvW spirit than giant blobs just auto attacking gates for wxp.
Have a glorious week all, let’s see if we can refrain from using the ‘b’ word for one entire page!
That’s a common misconception about randomness. If it’s truly random, results of the past will have no influence on future outcomes. So if there’s a 50% chance of getting a matchup with X, even if you just had 100 matchups with X, there is still a 50/50 chance of getting them again. Getting an ‘every other week’ pattern is actually a good indicator that there’s an error in the random number generator. A pretty huge error actually, if their random number generators were like that it would cause huge security risks.
The pendulum should swing back the other direction (if it’s truly random) and hopefully we’ll go to a true “every other week” pattern.
There seems to be a misconception that GVGers (particularly at the borderlands windmill) “aren’t affecting the game”. Sorry, but you are. You’re taking up (say, for a 20v20) 40 slots that could otherwise be used by people who want to play WvW. If you want your own private map, buy a custom arena. If you’re too cheap to buy a custom arena, ask Arenanet to introduce a GvG mode.
They are playing WvW. It’s those 60+ people running around in a single blob that are taking away spots in WvW from real WvW players. If they want to run around farming PvE they should go to orr. GvG wouldn’t be necessary then.
See how easy it is to fling random opinions at people? Just let everybody have their fun and stop the whining. And once again, sPvP maps and the whole structure of sPvP has nothing to do with how guilds want to fight eachother. WvW maps are perfect for guilds fighting eachother, guess why they do it there?
Here’s an outside perspective:
GvG doesn’t exist inside Guild Wars 2, WvW is specifically designed for servers to fights for resources. You literally cannot force GvG on everyone just because you said so. It’s not your decision to make. Trying to cap assets and PvP is what WvW is all about, if you don’t like it then take it up with Anet to add GvG to the game. You’re acting ridiculous and quite frankly like children.
Given the fact your guilds make up a massive minority to the player base who exactly do you think you are raging that people are trying to complete objectives? I’ve heard it stated that “The majority of people voted yes to it” Sorry but I wasn’t informed by Anet that there was a vote and since; like I said you are a vocal minority I believe your opinion means very little in context considering the map is to be used by all three servers.
If you want to kitten each other then go do it in SPvP and have a few teams from each guild fight it out otherwise grow up, shut up & man up.
What is your guild tag please?
I’m not in a guild, why is that relevant?
Think he wants to place rams on you.
Oh and I really wish people would stop suggesting sPvP to guilds that like fighting guilds. All the sPvP maps are pretty much glorified jumping puzzles, they suck for any kind of large clash.
We will be trying it so we can fight between other gandaran guilds, but I don’t expect it will be a pleasant experience.
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Oh and Liert. Keep the lions under control. Its not gonna take long before all of FSP is fed up with you guys!
Just give us some intel on where they are roaming, I’m sure some gandarans will love to keep them under
control.As for the night-capping, silly argument really, all servers do (or morning capping some of them) and means kitten really – towers hold points, points get you nothing at the end of the week – nice to have, but not sad to lose them.
Ideal to have with one gate or wall torn down
I love all you guys for making this matchup thread special. There’s always some fresh drama to entertain us
Have WxP divided amonst all players doing the objective (killing a player, taking a camp, …).
For instance: capturing a camp yields 500 WxP
-> take it solo: 500 WxP for you
-> take it with 20 people: 25 WxP for eachThere, zerging solved..
That’s assuming people play for WxP though; as far as I can tell they are in the minority (at least on my server).
Been a bit hit and miss lately with good fights, doesn’t help that I’m being plagued by some extreme lag at times. I got separated from my group last night (was downed and it took a while before I got rallied, so ended up with a blob between me and my group) and decided I’d just seek refuge in bay (which we owned, it was definitely red). I just had to run through some random enemies and I’d be in… or so I thought.
Once I reached the red portal, all that happened was me rubbing up against it while enemies took pot shots at me from behind. I even went down and rallied once while trying to run into it, but no such luck, it just refused to let me in
Even after being told about this thread and the comments on the video itself, many that I’ve shown this to can’t decide if the commander is serious or not.
That’s the brilliance of the video, it’s open to interpretation! It’s proper art.
TDA: Nice movies, but dont forget to give XxX the credit they deserve for that first fight though! Their well timed arrival tore us a new one!
Banana Rescue Squad! We smelled our beloved Banana’s were in danger, no one eats them without our permission é_é !
PS:
Voor een goed offer verraad ik ze, ik accepteer koekjesHmph, using Dutch isn’t the same as using encryption you know! I can see through your foul schemes.
I thought it was kind of obvious that XxX saved us there, we weren’t gonna win against two guilds together :P XxX loves us, they’d never let you squash us, squashed banana is a mess and no longer fit for eating. I believe they did ask us if we needed help before charging in, they’re gentlemanly like that.
Watch your back TDA >:D
Nooooo!!! We are doomed! Doomed I tell ya!
Or maybe… jaimy did you happen to get any pies as well? :o
TDA: Nice movies, but dont forget to give XxX the credit they deserve for that first fight though! Their well timed arrival tore us a new one!
Banana Rescue Squad! We smelled our beloved Banana’s were in danger, no one eats them without our permission é_é !
PS:
Voor een goed offer verraad ik ze, ik accepteer koekjes
Hmph, using Dutch isn’t the same as using encryption you know! I can see through your foul schemes.
I thought it was kind of obvious that XxX saved us there, we weren’t gonna win against two guilds together :P XxX loves us, they’d never let you squash us, squashed banana is a mess and no longer fit for eating. I believe they did ask us if we needed help before charging in, they’re gentlemanly like that.
There is still fun to be had when you meet the right opponents luckily. Far Shiverpeaks and Miller’s Sound have lots of guild groups running around. Other servers have a bit less guild groups and are hit and miss whether you’re on the right borderland to find them. Some servers have perhaps one guild group and are a huge drag to fight against. These servers generally also cause the more fun servers to team up as well to counter their blob, ruining the entire matchup for a week.
Nobody has issues with there being zergs, the issues are with there being nothing but one giant zerg to fight. There’s a huge difference in those two. The ideal situation is one zerg (30-40) for the random people, one big (20+) guild group, 2 or 3 medium sized (10-15) and some smaller groups (1-5) in my opinion. This would assume a population cap of around 100 though, which I’m not sure is the case.
Since the map is rather small, there will frequently be groups adding on to eachother’s fights, which is fine (chaotic element makes WvW exciting) as long as the two bigger groups stay on different sides of the map. There should be no major issues with skill lag and the groups stay small enough to promote skill. Sadly at the moment it’s more frequently like this:
60-80 man blob, 10 scouts on arrow carts. If the previously mentioned ‘setup’ were to meet this server, there are 2 options:
1) All the groups get together to fight the blob and not have any fun
2) All the groups resort to PvD&AC in different locations, one group at a time getting wiped by the blob and nobody having any fun
Thanks to all the people on the FSP borderlands, we had quite a couple of intense fights there. I’m kinda sad I dced right at the beginning of our last fight against Punk , wanna fight them more often.
Or we could stop acting like kids on the forum and, you know, actually enjoy the game
Yes, I prefer acting like a kid in game
Bah, XxX always hide in towers behind arrow carts, they’re training to apply to abaddon’s mouth community and learn how to fight properly.
Oh yeah, an evil glare to those AoA guys in vale camp yesterday that murdered me in my dolly form and stole my arrow cart! I wanted to place it in the middle of you, but my short legs didn’t carry me there in time
Can’t believe I dropped my siege when I died
Please tell me who I can make the bill out to.
Kill everybody supporting the golems -> kill the golems. Siege for defense is just fluff. Almost no door in our server has any siege at all :P
I can’t do my achievements because they require jumping puzzles. Other people can’t do their achievements because they require PvP. I don’t see where the issues are, just don’t get this achievement? You won’t be getting ALL achievements without PvP anyway, just focus on the ones you can get without aggravating yourself.
I personally detest the WvW jumping puzzles, but I just don’t go there, just like I don’t go to regular jumping puzzles. Doesn’t stop me from doing things I do enjoy; it really is that easy.
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Thanks to FSP guilds for providing some fun, wasn’t too great yet so far, but have had worse I suppose. Haven’t seen anything impressive from kodash yet, but the week is still young
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Two days into new matchup, finally vs servers close to us in rating, and I can see how much these 2 weeks vs Gandara helped my guild to improve. Once again, thank you TDA, XxX, JDGE, Dius, BT (sorry if I missed any) for all the fun fights – it definitely made us better team
It was a pleasure fighting you guys, hope you have a great time in your new matchup
Without you guys the previous week would have been properly dreadful. Our new matchup will also be a lot more interesting so yay.
The server best suited for roaming, dueling and gvg is almost completely based on their opponents as they make or break the fun times to be had in WvW. Sadly with the current matchup system this can no longer be predicted
Gandara has a lot of guilds that love the roaming and GvG action, als quite a few members in TDS cross server dueling guild. However, our most recent matchups were quite horrible for any sort of fun action.
Actually had quite a good time last night on the FSP border. First we tried running around the map and finding some fights. All we found was the occasional straggler or the blob he was running to. Then we had the brilliant idea of taking a tower and have the fights come to us. Oh how this worked. Some truly spectacular fighting inside briar once the walls went down. MmmmmMmm cookies.
I thought all the big blobs running about are proof that WvW is filled with PvE players. The real question is, how do we get them to do PvP inside WvW.
Even worse is when there’s a patch coming and they kick everyone from WvW 3 hours before the actual patch comes so everybody just hangs around in Lion’s Arch… waiting.
It’s nice to have a 3 hours notice for a patch, but it’s kinda ruined by the fact that during those 3 hours you can’t actually play wvw.
Should be better than last week at least. Let’s hope we can have some fun
Simply brilliant.
When will people stop moaning over getting killed on a PvP map? Everyone can attack you that are not on your server, why is it surprising that people do attack? I don’t want a WubWub where you need permission to attack someone. I’m very well aware that there are courtesys and manners especially when it comes to dueling, but in open world PvP, don’t cry about being killed. It’s just weird. If you eat 80 pound of chocolate every day, you will get fat. If you play WubWub 8 hours every day, you will get ganked.
Thanks.
I’m guessing dueling behind the windmill is the WvW equivalent of sticking a finger down your throat after eating said chocolate?
Could you please help me a bit into the right direction to get Maps working?
This part of my code may give you an idea:
https://github.com/codemasher/gw2api-tools/blob/master/js/gw2maps-jquery.js#L153
// the map has a clamped view? ok, we use this as bound if(floordata.clamped_view){ clamp = floordata.clamped_view; bounds = new L.LatLngBounds(p2ll([clamp[0][0], clamp[1][1]]), p2ll([clamp[1][0], clamp[0][1]])).pad(0.2); } // we display a specific map? so lets use the maps bounds else if(options.region_id && options.map_id){ clamp = floordata.regions[options.region_id].maps[options.map_id].continent_rect; bounds = new L.LatLngBounds(p2ll([clamp[0][0], clamp[1][1]]), p2ll([clamp[1][0], clamp[0][1]])).pad(0.4); } // else use the texture_dims as bounds else{ //bounds = new L.LatLngBounds(p2ll([0, (1 << options.max_zoom)*256]), p2ll([(1 << options.max_zoom)*256, 0])); bounds = new L.LatLngBounds(p2ll([0, floordata.texture_dims[1]]), p2ll([floordata.texture_dims[0], 0])).pad(0.1); } mapobject.map.setMaxBounds(bounds).fitBounds(bounds);Thanks for your answer but i don’t get how this effects the tiles i have to download from tiles.guildwars2.com/cID/fID/zLevel/x/y.jpg
How do i matchmake this with the clamped_view?
Since i can’t use leaflet I do not have those options you are using.Example: The Mists – Map
tiles.guildwars2.com/2/1/2/0/0.jpg does exist
tiles.guildwars2.com/2/1/3/0/0.jpg does not exist or is not available for dlHow can i calculate which map-tiles are available at a specific zoom level?
Thank for your help!
Just try and download them. If you get an error, just don’t display anything there. It will be very unlikely that people will want to view those areas anyway as they’re all white as far as I can tell.
Ahh, that would explain the complaints then, thanks. I can imagine the non prime-time people not being pleased with that type of fighting. Still good for us I suppose, so I’ll still take em, might mean much shorter queues too
Why? You dont like RoF and Vabbi? Why? :-D
I like RoF, but even with DL now the borderlands are empty while we as a roaming guild enjoy fights,, dont give a kitten about points. And I dont think RoF & Vabbi will provide us any.
Also I want to avoid TDA and JDGE having more wedding ceremonys and random siege placing to try to create a house moments. ¬_¬
Ooph, that really hit a sore spot did it? xD

