I shudder to think how strong d/d eles would be if they nerfed the damage gear in wvw.
yeah maybe you cannot kill em, they cannot kill you either..
not much of an issue..
builds that focus everything they have on survivability just make me laugh..You play the most ungodly over powered class in MMO history. You have no right to laugh at anything…
I play a guardian and basically if i don’t go for a full bunker build thieves will take off 10K hp instantly stealth, regen, do it again and kill me. The problem isn’t the gear it’s the people working on class balance. They flat out suck at it. There are a few classes that do just way to much DPS and and have way to many ways to escape or defend themselves and a few that do next to no damage unless they give up all defense and go total glass cannon. The class balance in this game is horrifically bad and if you listen to the state of the game video and Jon Sharp and Jon Peters it’s no surprise.
You need to improve your gameplay. I dont get killed by Zerkerthiefs and also play a Guardian.
Also thief surely is not overpovered, its lame, and easy to predict. It is just that a thief adding to a fight or a kite can end it instantly. This is not overpowered. For themselves thiefs are dead meat to anybody who has his toon under control.
Oh god another one of these improve your game play posts. How can i improve my game play when a thieves first attack’s from stealth hit me 5 times in less then a second for 1500 each hit ? Come on, what am i going to do , swing my hammer at him and pray i get a lucky crit that will hit for 2K ? That will do so much good when a second later the thief unstealths again and does the same thing to my remaining 7K or so HP.
I’m so sick of thieves and people defending their over powered classes with that lame kitten argument. The class balance in this game is horrific and it’s as simple as that.
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I shudder to think how strong d/d eles would be if they nerfed the damage gear in wvw.
yeah maybe you cannot kill em, they cannot kill you either..
not much of an issue..
builds that focus everything they have on survivability just make me laugh..
You play the most ungodly over powered class in MMO history. You have no right to laugh at anything…
I play a guardian and basically if i don’t go for a full bunker build thieves will take off 10K hp instantly stealth, regen, do it again and kill me. The problem isn’t the gear it’s the people working on class balance. They flat out suck at it. There are a few classes that do just way to much DPS and and have way to many ways to escape or defend themselves and a few that do next to no damage unless they give up all defense and go total glass cannon. The class balance in this game is horrifically bad and if you listen to the state of the game video and Jon Sharp and Jon Peters it’s no surprise.
I’m on Jade Quarry, and I think Blackgate is an excellent server to transfer to — excellent players, excellent fighting spirit, excellent tactics, and a superb community. If you are looking for a strong WvW server to call home look no further. Blackgate is what you have been searching for. We want BG back in T1. Miss you.
Just quoting this post because i couldn’t have said it better myself. I have nothing but good things to say about BG after we / JQ faced them a few weeks ago. Even out manned they put up one hell of a fight.
Hope to see you guys back in T1 soon with a few more people to even the numbers up. =)
Culling is no result from computer performance.
I got a top level gaming computer, and I still get horrible culling, but no “physical lag”.
Might be about proximity from server? or the connexion itself?
Could be IDK. All i know is that i don’t have the issues with culling that most people seem to complain about. Anything under 30 – 35 people usually renders just fine for me and like i said the only issues i ever have with culling is the massive zerg balls where 40 + people are all stacked on top of each other. I played this game for the first week on a Q6600 and that was bad lol but after i upgraded my MB and CPU, culling issues were very minimal for me.
Holy kitten what copy of guild wars are you playing? You culling is better in tier 1 than ours is in tier 5 lmao.
From what i understand GW2 is very CPU intensive. Upgrade that before a video card and you will see massive improvements in culling. I have an old 8800 GTX and just upgraded to an 4.0GHz AMD FX8 and have little culling issues. The massive 40 – 50 man zerg balls are a little slow to render, still it’s not to bad.
Anyway, WvW is the best part of this game. To bad Anet is neglecting it. =(
What ever happens i hope BG get’s a few guilds and back into T1. I have nothing but good things to say about that server and the fine people on it. They got beat up pretty good when we / JQ faced them last time but that was due to their lack of numbers. Skill wise… All i can say is that they are good !
Anyway, i believe we will be facing BG next week ? and to be honest i can’t wait ! I have a ton of respect for that server.
I never understood why they put the JP’s in the BL’s but in it’s own separate instance. If you are going to have JP’s in the BL’s fine but put them in the main map and have completing them mean something, like extra points for your server.
Currently how it is the JP’s are a joke. They take up a spot that the WvWers need and most of the people who defend keeping the JP’s are those who just can’t hack it in sPvP or WvW so they hide in the JP’s and gank people from their little hiding spots where they can’t be reached. Even worse is the idiots who sit around all day in the JP setting up duels.
The JP’s in WvW is not a bad idea but like just about every thing else in this game Anet picked the worst possible way to implement them.
I just have one question for all of those claiming JQ is only numbers…
If all we are is numbers how come when you have equal numbers in prime time U.S JQ is still steamrolling both servers ? Surely with your godly " skill " you would be able to take all our keeps and spawn camp us …
JQ does have more coverage but if you think that’s the only reason were winning you are deluding yourself. This week has been the most boring week in WvW i have had since joining the game. I can literally run around with the zerg and press 1 and collect bags. Something i couldn’t do while facing the " out maned " Black Gate server.
From what i understand this is just one of multiple ways to stay permanently stealthed, Even the guy in the video says it at one point.
The problem with stealth is stealth itself. People make all the excuses, claim others need to learn to play, or that those who play thieves are just so much better then every one else. The reality is that stealth itself is the most over powering mechanic you could possibly have. The ability to pick and choose your fights, how and when is what has toppled world powers all threw out history. It’s no different in PvP type games. The ability to not be seen in and of itself is an Iwin skill. Add in the fact that developers seem to think the stealth classes need the highest DPS as well just makes thing’s worse.
Stealth in any PvP game is just a bad idea because it can not be balanced. It’s either to powerful or totally useless. Hopefully someday the game developers will realize this and realize that those who need these over powered classes will still play their games. They will just pick another over powered class.
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I would be happy if i could just put the weapon skills where i wanted them…
http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/b/365009593
~50:00 (Anet Devs talking about builds)
I like how they talk about how they messed up spirit rangers. but havent come out with a solution to fix this~ for how many months now?
54:54 “I hear underwater rangers are pretty good.” I feel trolled
That’s the first time i have seen that and my god… Is it any wonder why the class balance is so bad in this game ? Those 2 are " like " umm " like " “like” clueless. Wow, just wow.
I agree with basically every thing the OP said but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more that needs to be addressed in WvW.
This game, not just WvW, is so deeply flawed i see GW2 only as a stop gap until the next best thing comes around. It’s just a bad game and the only thing it has going for it is that it is free to play. There is so much that needs to be fixed / addressed and given what i have seen of Anet i have 0 faith they can turn it around. I have even less faith that the player base will stick around long enough for them to do it.
I hate to say it, i have been waiting for this game to come out for years. I heard talk about GW2 while GW 1 was only a year old lol ! But sadly it’s yet another MMO that will go into the ever growing pile of failed MMO’s i have sitting around my computer room. Maybe Anet will prove me wrong but after playing MMO’s going all the way back to LOK on AOL… I have seen more then my fair share of over hyped junk and empty promises.
cuz they were scrubs who came from world of ezmodecraft and played a huntard there. They expected jesus to fly out of the sky and kill an entire zone with his lazer eye nukes and hand over the XP and gold to the “huntard of gw2”
Thats why.
Or they have been playing MMO’s since most likely before you were born and " rangers " were almost always ranged DPS classes that used a bow in these types of games.
My opinion, people think rangers are bad because rangers are not rangers. They are a melee class with a broken pet. LB and SB are, again my opinion, the 2 worst options / weapons for a ranger.
If you want a ranger or archer make a warrior with a bow. I highly suggest everyone does this anyway to check it out. Just spend 5 minutes in sPvP with a warrior and a bow. It will make you cry if you wanted to play an archer type character and mistakenly picked the ranger.
Figured this out month’s ago..
If you want to do the glass cannon pew pew setup..
Warrior is better at it.
You don’t even have to go glass cannon. You can go with a bunker type build and most likely out DPS a ranger with a bow… Rifle build is way more fun though and rifle / bow is more of what most people would think of as a “ranger”.
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My opinion, people think rangers are bad because rangers are not rangers. They are a melee class with a broken pet. LB and SB are, again my opinion, the 2 worst options / weapons for a ranger.
If you want a ranger or archer make a warrior with a bow. I highly suggest everyone does this anyway to check it out. Just spend 5 minutes in sPvP with a warrior and a bow. It will make you cry if you wanted to play an archer type character and mistakenly picked the ranger.
I briefly scanned the T1 thread and all I saw was tears and bitterness. To save others who may be inclined to read the thread some time let me give you the short version. In a nutshell JQ got stacked during the last week of free transfers and nobody can compete with the 800 pound gorilla. The end.
Now lets talk about how much fun we are having in T2. We have cookies, we have Yak parades and we have celebrities representing our servers. Plus the fights are exciting and relatively even. Who could ask for more? I think we are all enjoying this match and that is all that matters.
I think people are over estimating how many are on JQ. A lot of the time we don’t have ques for all of the BL’s. What we do have is enough people to cover all the BL’s basically at all times.
Anyway, having fun is what it’s all about and it looks like you guys and gals are having a lot of it ! Can’t say the same for T1, SoS and SoR are so boring to fight.
I hope both BG and Kaineng some how some way end up in T1 next week. BG belongs in T1 and Kaining would most likely roflstomp both SoR and SoS.
It’s getting boring in T1, we/ JQ need some competition !
That’s ok T2 is fun and casual as far as worrying about huge coverage gaps. Not having Que’s ever is also a big plus.
Que time for me is usually 5 – 20 minutes on weekends. 5 – 10 minutes prime time weekdays and roughly the same late night / early morning. The ques on JQ are not as bad as people claim. At least i haven’t ever experienced hour + ques.
I don’t mind paying a subscription fee but for GW2 ? lol , right …
GW2 is just not a very good game. Can any one honestly come up with one thing GW2 does better or even as good as any other mmo out there ? I can’t.
I hope both BG and Kaineng some how some way end up in T1 next week. BG belongs in T1 and Kaining would most likely roflstomp both SoR and SoS.
It’s getting boring in T1, we/ JQ need some competition !
A long shot i know, I hope Anet matches Kaineng up against JQ or one of the other tier 1 servers this up coming week. Kaineng needs an epic beat down and , speaking for myself only , would love for my server to face them. I’m still bitter about being spawn camped by 30 + Kaineng while my old server could only muster 5 – 10 people by the end of the week lol.
Not doing reset.
And BG is pretty much a T1 server.
BG is really good. I’m on JQ and after our match with them, i have nothing but good things to say about the fine folks on BG… And yes they are a T1 server !
A long shot i know, I hope Anet matches Kaineng up against JQ or one of the other tier 1 servers this up coming week. Kaineng needs an epic beat down and , speaking for myself only , would love for my server to face them. I’m still bitter about being spawn camped by 30 + Kaineng while my old server could only muster 5 – 10 people by the end of the week lol.
I’m not going to make any claims that i can’t back up but it is obvious something is going on behind the scenes. Maybe the big PvP/WvW patch / changes coming this month are bigger than we expected… And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
I do wish Anet would say something though because a lot of people are getting very frustrated and rightfully so.
I leveled my ranger from level 3 or 4 to 80 all in WvW. You are going to suck 1 vs 1 or in small group fights but if you get with the zerg… Your level 2 will make more of an impact then some of the levels 80’s in the zerg. lol
Also if you are on a lower tier server you should absolutely go out to the BL’s ! Just the extra bodies help and you can level relatively fast taking lightly defended keeps with a zerg. I just got home from work I’m tired but i think it’s 6k ? exp for a keep and 15K if you take SM.
My opinion, get out to the BL’s and have fun no matter what level you are or gear you have.
If wm goes anywhere they should go to blackgate. They are organized. they understand why you would need assignments to cover all borders and not pile into Ehatever border you want. You’d help strengthen them for t1. They are already really strong but need some reinforcements to take the top spot.
They would actually set BG back. I fought against Kaineng and WM on a low tier server and for the few hours a night my guild would bring out 15 people + the 10 – 15 others that tagged along, we would steam roll them. They were pretty much relegated to their keeps with all the siege equipment. I’m now on JQ and fighting against BG and my god those guys are on a whole other level !
People tend to make excuses and beat their chest claiming how they can deal with stealth classes bla bla bla. The reality is that stealth in and of itself is the most over powering mechanic in any PvP game, just like it is in war. Whether or not you can deal with stealth is irrelevant. The ability to fight unseen and pick and choose your battles at will has toppled world powers all threw out human history. Stealth in a PvP game is no different than in real life… You can not effectively fight what you can not see.
Stealth in any " game " that claims to have or want " balance " is an oxymoron. Stealth in any PvP game is just a bad idea because it can never be " balanced ". It’s either to powerful or totally useless and maybe one day the game developers will realize this and come up with a new concept to help those who suck compete and buy their games.
I just hope Kaineng some how ends up in T1 in a couple weeks so they can experience themselves why they are so disliked by the lower tier servers.
I don’t know if this is a good or bad idea i just know that i don’t want to face lower tier servers. It would be no fun for any one, I’m on JQ now.
If Anet is going to do this i think the 24 hour matches that have been suggested by others is the way to go. If the lower tier servers that were complaining , and rightfully so, after facing kaineng had to face SoS, BG, JQ, etc … Nothing good will come of it.
I do like the thought of facing Kaineng on the server I’m on now though. I faced them on a server that had trouble getting 50 people total in the BL’s. Would love to repay Kaineng for that terribly frustrating experience. lol
Lol, always complaints about stealth classes in MMO’s
Because stealth is over powered in and of itself. We / our military doesn’t spend 100’s of $billions on stealth and counter stealth technology because it’s NOT and advantage. Same applies to games. You can not effectively fight what you can not see.
Stealth in any PvP game where things are supposed to be " fair " or " balanced " is a total oxymoron.
In my opinion Anet should drop this whole server pride nonsense. When i bought this game i thought i was buying " Guild "Wars 2 not " Server " Wars 2.
If they really want to fix WvW it basically needs to be scrapped and made into something else… What i have no idea lol. All i know is that for a lot of servers WvW is dull, stale and not much fun. If they could some how get the lower WvW pop servers in with the larger WvW pop servers it would make things a lot better and more fun but that’s just my opinion.
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Are they good?
It depends on what you mean by good.
I fought Kaineng on a lower tier server and when we had similar numbers we rolled over them with little effort. The problem was we could never keep those numbers up so Kaineng would just wear us down and retake every thing.
I’m now on a T1 server and if you put Kaineng up against JQ, SoS or BG they would be flat out steam rolled.
From what i have seen of kaineng they are little more than their over whelming numbers vs the lower tier servers. I was anything but impressed when i faced them.
Is there a point to bringing drama to the forums about one guy?
I was about to say the same thing. Makes you wonder why only one side is airing their dirty laundry and trying so hard to turn a disagreement between a couple people into a public affair while the other side moved on and seemingly dropped the issue.
I was part of TCMM briefly before i transferred to JQ and i have only good things to say about all of them.
I just transferred to JQ from Anvil Rock last night and OMFG what a difference WvW is in the top tiers !
Mara / Mura ? and the others i was grouped with… Thanks for inviting me to group and letting me tag along. I had a blast even though i had no clue what i was doing most of the time lol. You guys were awesome and again thank you, hope to see you all around again. =)
I hate to say it but i kind of agree. I wish Anet would reconsider. In my opinion the negative effects free transfers had are far less significant and detrimental than the effects paid transfers will have.
As a forum troll, I call your bluff. I talk ALOT of kitten here and ALS is rarely involved in more then a flameram worship. As for ALS inviting you 100 times … who the kitten are you trying to kid ? No guild does that.
I have nothing against Ronny but aparently your love for him is a whole new level, were his balls salty ? If he asks you to drink the kool aid, will you be the first to poor a drink ?
Even Ronny should be creeped out by your love for him.
Besides don’t you have a new commander on JQ that need his lower region polished ?
Was my comment directed towards you ? Oh BTW, you got a little brown on your nose.
@ nekos
Not hate. Strong, unresolvable disagreement.
For your part, start here:
I don’t know… In the short time i was on AR and invited to TCMM…
That’s a good place to start…
In my short time on AR i was invited, and declined, no less then 100 times to ALS. Also, in my short time on these forums i have seen the ALS higher up’s hijack a thread and take shots at another guild and it’s guild leader.
You don’t need to know some one for very long to know what kind of person they are. I mean i don’t know you but i know you’re a self centered child and your posts in this thread just back up that claim.
Anyway, you have a nice day.
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I don’t know why there is all the hate for Ronny. In the short time i was on AR and invited to TCMM Ronny was great and nice enough to me. He was one of the few commanders who actually got people together, got them to follow and listen and actually accomplish something. Sadly i can not say the same for most of the other commanders i came across on AR. This is the main reason i left the server.
TCMM, I wish you guys the best of luck on NSP ! I didn’t really get to know many of you but you all seemed like a great group of people. Sorry i ended up jumping ship but i really wanted to move up in tiers / competition. Again, i wish you guys and gal’s the best of luck on NSP ! =)
One last thing … NSP people, Don’t let the bickering in this thread influence your impression of Ronny or TCMM. See for your self what Ronny and that guild is about.
SoS, JQ and TC are all full atm.
Interesting.
It has been full since yesterday. Even at 4am they were full. I wouldn’t be surprised if Anet locked transfers to that server. It’s in their best and most profitable interest to do so.
I would just like to thank the people on JQ for doing this and trying to help those that want on the server get in. It speaks volumes about you all , this server and your guilds. =)
First off I am in the AoE is to weak camp so i don’t want to see them nerfed. I would like to see damage lowered but AoE’s being able to hit more targets. I don’t like the 5 player limit.
That being said, isn’t Anet planning on giving us some WvW only skills, items, etc ? If so nerfing AoE’s might not be as bad as it seems and part of a larger attempt to balance the classes / WvW.
Been trying to get on that server since last night. Tried a few times at 2Am 4Am and 5Am. It wouldn’t surprise me if Anet blocked all transfers to top tier servers. It’s in their best / most profitable interest to do so.
Anyway, It’s sad that we have to resort to this type of behavior in order to ensure we have fun / enjoy a product we purchased.
From what i understand it will cost $5 – $7 to transfer servers. $28 at most per month for these guilds to continue transferring servers each week.
The wiki article, before deletion, said 500-1800 gems per transfer depending on destination population. Transferring to a “winning” server is going to cost you upwards of $22 or 40 gold per transfer.
At those prices large guilds won’t be moving back and forth anymore because the majority of their members will be unwilling to pay ~$20-$80 a month just to screw around. Those people will just quit GW2 altogether.
There was another one posted yesterday, i believe it was from the twitter chat. They said $5 – $7 to transfer.
The real problem is that the guilds that are exploiting the free transfers are staying on a server for a month or two before they get crushed in the upper tiers and transfer again. In other words, it’s only going to cost them $5 every couple of months to continue doing what they have been and ruining WvW.
Anyway, this is business 101. Granted it’s bad business and the higher ups in Anet should seriously consider a course in business ethics but it’s still business. Paid transfers are for the sole intention of making profits and what guilds are doing regarding transferring and WvW is irrelevant so long as long as it’s profitable. I’m a small business owner, i actually own 3. It’s not hard for me to see what Anet is doing and why they are doing it. I do the same myself the only difference is that i am honest with my customers and explain to them the “why’s”. Unlike Anet who is exploiting the “profit before people” business model and using PR to justify it.
Sorry you are having internal troubles but free transfers are killing WvW and need to end as wannabe-winners are hopping from one server to the next.
This probably won’t help you but at least you are finding out who is worth sticking with and who isn’t.
Free transfers are not killing WvW. The guilds that are exploiting it are killing WvW. The saddest part is that paid transfers are not going to fix the problem. From what i understand it will cost $5 – $7 to transfer servers. $28 at most per month for these guilds to continue transferring servers each week. Anet has chosen to profit from the problem instead of fixing it. Sure their PR is that once paid transfers go in it will stop this type of behavior / guilds transferring to lower tiers. The reality is that it will do nothing more then line their pockets and they know it… It’s intentional.
Zerging in WvW is already bad enough, this will only encourage the return of stacking again. Another pve change that have deep impact in pvp.
Don’t change what is not broken…
I thought stacking / zerg ball was done to minimize the effects of AoE’s ? If already under powered AoE’s are nerfed what the point of stacking ? And yes I am new to the game so forgive me. =)
You don’t really need to worry about queues until T2 servers. From what I’ve heard, as I’m not T2, is that even queues thre aren’t too bad.
But lets just get real, come to Fort Aspenwood (T3). If you do, shoot me a PM and I’ll introduce you to some guilds based on what you want out of WvW. We’ve got a strong WvW guild presence that ranges the whole commitment spectrum.
Will do and thanks for the reply ! I wouldn’t mind going to one of the top servers i just don’t want to be severely out matched. Like i said I’m a newb and I just want to run around, have fun and fight people in WvW. Groups, zerg, solo what ever as long as there are a lot of people out there fighting on all sides i will probably like it. =)
I’ve heard good things about Yaks Bend and that was one of the servers i was considering, I ended up on Anvil Rock. I can’t say enough good things about the people on AR and my only complaint is that they just don’t have the numbers in WvW to compete.
Anyway, Does servers like Yaks Bend, Ebay and the 8 – 12 tiers have enough people ? Also if there are ques how long are they ?
( side note )
Sorry for asking all these questions. I will continue to play the game but will not ever give Anet another penny because of the paid transfers, forced into one server. I want to make sure i get on the right server this time.
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I kinda think AOE’s are severely under powered in this game, only being allowed to hit 5 people and all. I’m still new to the game but last night in a zerg we just all bunched together while at least 2 ele’s were casting non stop AOE’s on us pretty much non of us were even taking damage. It was the lamest most pathetic thing i have seen in a PvP MMO… Outside of stealth of course lol.
I don’t know what happened to Anet. GW1 was an amazing game with countless skills and in my opinion balance fairly well. I can not say the same for guildwars 2. It’s like they took every bad idea they could think of and made a game out of it.
Since Anet is going to make us pay for transfers under the guise that it will stop certain guilds transferring to lower tier servers so they can mop the floor with them… I’m looking for a new server that has a good WvW population. I’m not interested in one of the top servers, I’m new to the game and i suck lol. I do how ever want to be on a server that is PUG friendly, Is some what competitive and has the numbers to stand up to the servers like kaineng , since the problem will not go away and Anet made the choice to profit from this problem instead of fixing it.
Anyway, any advice would be appreciated. =)
This is nothing more then a way for Anet to cash in on bad game design. Paid transfers are not going to stop the problem. Take a step back and think about it for a second… Whats $5 , $10, even $40 a month to transfer servers ? It’s not going to stop the guilds , like the ones that took over Kaineng, from transferring to lower tiers once they can no longer hack it. Hell Anet is even encouraging that type of behavior by making it cheaper to transfer to a lower tier / population server.
The community should be outraged over this not praising it. Especially when you consider forcing people to pay for the the horrifically bad oversight , allowing people to play 1 and only one server, is really only punishing the people who may want to transfer servers for valid reasons.
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I’m actually appalled Anet would implement paid server transfers. There is no reason what so ever for us to be forced to pick 1 and only 1 server in the first place. Then to add insult to injury make us pay to transfer to a different server.
I’m new to the game, been playing close to 2 weeks and i have found that the server i picked was not one i want to be on. I had no way of knowing how the server would be before even playing the game and now i have to pay to change servers ? Sorry, this game might go into the garbage bin just on principal.
I understand that there is a problem with WvW and guilds transferring to lower tier servers but this is not the way to fix that problem. Hell it doesn’t do anything other than put some $$$ in Anet’s pockets. It’s ridiculous and if this is the best Anet can do … I hate to see what the next step is when they realize paid server transfers wont fix ((( their own ))) blatant and obvious oversight concerning WvW.
Paid server transfer have always existed and is vital to stop server hoppers in WvW. I think this fixes the problem perfectly and if you have a better method then by all means you should suggest it in the suggestion forum. Also, transfers are still free at the moment so you can still transfer to another world if you’re not happy with yours…
How is it going to fix the problem ? Do you think people who are so inclined can’t afford a $10 server transfer fee once a month or even once a week ?
It’s also apparent Anet has designed it this way by making it (((cheaper))) and easier for the problem guilds to hop to a lower tier / population server. This is a joke and it really makes me sad to see Anet do this. All they had to do was simply make every one who transfers servers start over from level 1 with no gold gems or anything… Problem solved.
Paid transfers are effective because it would force people to think twice now that real money is involved. If a guild is willing to spend lets say your proposed 10 bucks per member then sure by all means they can play that game if they want. I have nothing against it if they’re willing to pay the price.
In other words it doesn’t fix the problem…
And i have to be careful about what i say. I got an infraction for my reply to you. lol
