What I used to do in GW2 : Play tpvp free and paid all the time , trying to round up the best people I can find , ocasionally blowing off steam in spvp to pawn some kidz.
What I do now in GW2 : Grind fractals all day up and past lvl 20+ trying to max out stats to pawn in WvW. weird huh ?
Great effort I would love to join , too bad im from EU side – someone should really do something like this for us Euroballerz. Please
@wookalar This isn’t so bad basically you finish the “grind” after one ring if you are into maxing a dps build or a certain one. Problem is the RNG wall the first one is get lucky to a ring drop and the second rng hits when it’s completely worthless stats to your stats class. This isn’t right and it should be fixed.
Anet will have to tone down the whole difficulty thing , everybody is running pugs therefore no pug can achieve a +25 +30 diff just my 2c i don’t see it. With the obvious leavers , disconnects , crashes , lag even if everything is fixed. They should just add the tier to the vendor to be bought for tokens in the long run. It’s still a casual game who is gonna grind difficulty 50 ?
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The rendering bug was fixed , aswell after moving out of shadow refuge you get almost instantly revelead try to troll more qqers.
This complain about thieves is getting real old , running a class cannon thief is the hardest thing basically your stuck into a 14k health pool even the slightest aoe or dmg gets you downed. Most of the qqers don’t know hot to properly trait or use the proper skills, learn to use a stunbreaker ? not to mention they lack the game mechanic knowledge and they come here and qq instead of learning to play the game.
Here is a challenge for you good sir… Create an elementalist, spec 30 Fire (power) 30 air (crit) and 10 into whatever you want. Use berserker amulet with any ruins you want. Now, fraps / video capture it, and see how long you live with 14k life as a Full Burst Ele. As a full burst ele we can almost equal the damage of a thief, however, we do not have the luxury of being invisible 90% of the fight. Attacking so fast its pathetic to watch how slow an Ele cast his spells. Ever seen a downed thief? It’s like they are on Speed or something, just bambambambambam, so fast… compared to bam…….bam…… mist form….. bam…….. earth grasp. stomped.
Dagger dagger is a good way to start, or scepter dagger if you are going more 1 v 1. My personal best with scepter was 9k damage with the 20% dmg to players under 25% life + 10% fire damage + 5% damage versus burning targets + fire grab vs burning target. Player was at about 10% life when used fire grab and he was burning + crit made it a nice 9k, then instantly dead to next person in line.
Any class can spec Glass Cannon, but not all of them have the luxury of being unseen / teleport 3x to get away.
Good luck with the challenge.
Actually ele is my fave. and i’ve been playing Aky’s build : http://static.gwcom.de/pawned/79ac76cc6b5f0f29.png for quite some time and I can honestly say I never lost to a d/d thief ( dagger/pistol is another story). If this does’t work for you try and play a bunker elementalist but mind you im not going to teach you how to play a class just to prove to YOU that thief is doable and can be countered. It’s basically the same thing in the same thread regarding thiefs. People who know about the game , the builds the “when to use properly timed” stunbreakers do not cry on these forums they play the game and win it.
This complain about thieves is getting real old , running a class cannon thief is the hardest thing basically your stuck into a 14k health pool even the slightest aoe or dmg gets you downed. Most of the qqers don’t know hot to properly trait or use the proper skills, learn to use a stunbreaker ? not to mention they lack the game mechanic knowledge and they come here and qq instead of learning to play the game.
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Anet has done enough to the thief , stop qqing and learn to counter it. People have invested hundreds hours and tons of effort into their thieves to be ruined by casual qq? inside spvp – which means nothing and will never be balanced. Threads like these are old and don’t mean nothing anymore.
They need to fix this and fast , people won’t run these dungeons for RNG through all the bugs , disconnects , game crashes without an option to return which makes you lose hours of progress with no reward and no chance on finishing. It seems like a punishment more then anything else really. Add the rings for relics or increase the chance make it a guaranteed drop. What’s the point in getting to the higher difficulty without any real reward ?
Well atleast they are looking into hotfixing this , still after this long grind on different difficulty settings after 10+ we shouldn’t be faced with RNG make it a higher drop chance of guaranteed. People cannot progress without the agony stat.
This is the most frustrating thing possible , because one in 3 parties get a member dc / crash or something this happened to me atleast 4-5 times stopped me from progressing. We need a hotfix patch and fast.
Some people clearly don’t know what they’re talking about , nowdays after the cnd comkittenf u can never get higher then 5-6k. Stop it with the thief your just embarassing yourself now.
@StormGryffen yea spot on. So much for the “loyal” fanbase of the game series. Someone above me talked about high school. From what I recall high school teenagers where a bit more understanding
Man its a dying age I hope the world won’t end on december 21 because I really want to see this entitlement generation next years demands in mmo’s . This is the first mmo where you have everything handed to you on a plate and too many options for the casual crowd to get into high end gear. People in here saying they want rollbacks on gear now ? Sorry bro some of us have ascended backpieces already forget about it.
Some of us are running fractals 10+ on a daily basis because we are gamers afterall and we don’t expect everything to be served on a silver plate. People crying about a ring and a backpiece on a 200 thread page is a joke indeed. What’s next demand on free legendary’s drop in every daily dungeon event ?
Im starting to miss the wow crowd /sad days.
Server : Seafarer’s rest
Guild name : Seafarers Best / guild tag [Rest]
Can’t see guild chat , cant type in it guild mates say the same thing it all started last night the bug is still there.
Edit: UPDATED – the post because I have an update on the issue : it seems after leaving the guild or joining a new guild the guild chat is working atleast for me.
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This bug is still , started last night I asked other guildmates and they told me they have it too , for some it went away but for me it’s the same can we get an update on this ? pls
@Pirlipat I was originally the one raging against this change , because I went nuts years ago when playing mmos with 2 Tiers of gear. I could never settle to have the 2nd best , thing is anet took the casual approach to this since I sit in overflow for an hour at nights which is new to me, this means the game is on fire atm with people playing it. I was only comparing hardlife work to ingame hardwork : when you work your kitten of at a law firm you deserve that promotion even if you have to do 10x the work and by that it’s of course the same repetitive work over the guy that is contempt with his and doesn’t want to spend the extra hours at the office and settles. Same thing applys to an ingame situation why a person who plays more , harder , spends more time doesnt’t deserve that extra edge ? Why would a guy who plays 1 hour a day have the gear of a guy who plays / works 8 hours a day. That is the basic argument and I will close by saying that you can play those fractals casually or hardcore to achieve your goals.
It’s a personal effort after all , if you are a casual gamer who maxed his exotic set and have probably second BiS inslot why would you want ascendant gear for +5+10+20 stat ? Where will you be using that “hardcore” gear , once a week in wvw or the daily dungeon ? It’s the same previous mmo argument and here it comes: play harder ( work harder ) then the rest get an extra edge it’s just like in the real life or is it not ? No one is forcing you to do it you will still be competitive either way. So why cry about an extra +5 stat you don’t need and won’t use ?
People already farmed these or are in the course of getting them. Everyone ingame is spamming LFG fotm lvl 1,2,3,4 that means that people enjoy them , it’s not like your getting left behind everyday you see lfg lvl 1 and 2 , they are short even if you grind one level a day you can get up to lvl 10+ and get the ring you wanted. It’s sad that people are so casual nowdays that want one tier gear for 10 years. Life issues and kids aside no one is forcing you to play them.
Some folks simply dont want to understand nor do they want to learn how to counter some specs. People complain about glass cannon thieves with 14k hp that have been nerfed again and again. Its alot easier to log into the forums and qq about something then to learn to counter it. This topic has been explained to death just stop it please.
After 3 nerfs some ppl still have the guts to complain about one build ? Any class/build can be countered do we really need the l2p strat again ?
This is the worst possible thing that could happen to the game , first of all they said no gear treadmills and now we get a new type inbetween exotic and legendary but with better stats then exotics ? What does this mean you ask? Basically if you dont want to settle to the 2nd best gear your obliged to start farming like a mad man token after token to get that ascended gear. Why would anyone grind any other dungeon when you got the better gear in FoTm? WvW is imbalanced enough how will this gear effect it even more ? Anet needs to speak up on this travesty worst patch so far.
The dungeons are great had a blast last night raiding till after midnight. Im curious on how the difficulty will scale in the harder modes though. Im hoping not too hard
^this The best update so far they finally gave us a chance for more paid tickets while adding the pvp daily , they didnt destroy our most beloved thief class because people who actually play this game at skill-cap know how hard it is to pull off. Anet knows what they’re doing kudos <3 .
People will finally realise that anet knows how to balance their games and to improve them constantly and not succumb to the mass qq of the casuals. Great update
Actually the hotjoin servers are plenty and full, free tournament que is instant , paid que at night is faster then it was before atleast from my EU exp. And ppl still forming grps for tpvp in the map chat. I have faith in this 15th november patch maybe it can add a new spvp map and more features along with “said” balance. PvP is growing not dying check your facts.
^ Unless they nerf all the good builds and you remain playing the only viable one to compete aka frost mage from another game out there just one example. I still hope anet is smarter then to listen to the massive qq they know they’re game afterall and will compensate the class in some way its sad though. OP is dead right.
I will agree with you on thieves and mesmers having high mobility (if the mesmer is using portal), but to name a couple more, warrior can have extreme mobility with greatsword and sword shield with 3 charges ( not to mention utility skills ), and elementalist with Ride the Lightning can escape nearly any situation.
Actually you can stalk someone the entire map ( being so small ) and get him even if he uses ride of lightning. The map layouts are too small imho the fact that you can cross the whole map in less then one minute using speed buffs or passives is not ok. And this is why hotjoin feels way crowded when the server is full you have no breathing room and you will always have 3 ppl chasing you down sooner or later. Being a thief and a mesmer actually offers you a running and getting back in action chance. And unfortunately the teleport skills are the best ingame at sucessfully running away.
Yes this is a big issue , fact is people are scared to sign for paid tournaments because they know they will face only the best teams ( hard to get into a decent pvp guild , grp these days) , the ticket price for entry is too big imho atm this is why ppl still avoid them. Que has gone up to 40 mins in the evening on EU kinda sad.
You must run the worst traits , build to get those numbers on you never seen that kind of damage anywhere in pvp, Im not gonna trust your screenshot sorry. From the screenshot it says your playing a warrior try to learn and use Endure Pain on skill and on trait for starters.
“I’m a Mesmer and they melt in seconds when they face me.” Then your implying that mesmer needs a nerf too you bet your kitten it needs one. Im tired of seeing 10-12-15k mind wrecks and confusions in one global.
Too bad cloak & dagger has a serious miss change especially in big/small grps when ppl move all the time. Take notes
Basically we are the only class that received a nerf with every major patch , sooner or later I think there will be nothing to nerf and probably render the class useless. Heartseeker is gone , pistol whip is gone with the upcoming changes probably so will backstab dagger usage and finally the death of blossom bleed will come after. I wonder what we are gonna play on our thiefs then.
Fact is the price of paid tournmanets atleast is too high , this is why people all over have long que issues. Longest paid que was more then half an hour by that time we canceled it and went back to frees. Either most of the ppl finished their stack of paid tickets or they just dont que for paid anymore. Only best teams like Tsunami , No scrub and so on its kinda hard to play it and then also lose your tickets. Anet needs to tone down the ticket prices or the paid tournies will have 10 teams running them and no more.
Well its obvious that the massive qq and crying has led up to this once again and it mostly comes from people who dont understand the class or dont want to. Its easier to come to the forums and post thread after thread of qq then going ingame and learning a class or how to counter something. I really want to see how they can “compensate” another nerf.
@Niim yea IF only.
“Maybe try and play some organized wvw and start playing competitive tpvp and paid ( with a premade, guild , friends ) and you’ll see the state of pvp is more then good. You can always get back to hotjoin for some pubstomp little zerg.”
There is no way that I am investing one more dime in this game, with the balance the way it is. The SS offered by the OP is all the definitive proof I need that I have wasted my time with this company. They are walking on egg shells with the thief class at the expense of other players which is their call, but I refuse to reward them for it.
I have done WVW in organized groups and its a joke. Ppl die so fast in this game it may as well be a FPS.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I’m glad that you still find value in this product. However, I do not because of the things I mentioned above. Many of the ppl in my guild are logging on less and less, and I am more inclined to play Warhammer as dead as it is.
Maybe pvp is not the scene for you as seeing that most of the ppl I know left the game and are now back playing tpvp and paid like mad. I recommend watching some vids of the organized WvW battles, you stated above that ppl are dying like in a FPS its completely untrue. You are catering to the OP which is probably another hotjoin player using the wrong traits , sigils , runes . I recommend getting some knowledge , info , tryouts with the certain OP classes and maybe you will understand how untrue and hard to play they actually are atleast in a competitive enviroment. I for one will not be comming back to the official forums because its riddled with too much cry for nerfs im gonna stay on “guru” where people actually have constructive feedback and theorycraft for a change.
I heard so many good things about GW1 that I was excited to try this game. So far I have been disappointed on pretty much all fronts. The pve is ok, WVW is a Orb hack fest mired by free transfers to imbalance populations, bots run rampant in the pve zones, sand box pvp is a gankfest.
Did I miss anything?
Maybe try and play some organized wvw and start playing competitive tpvp and paid ( with a premade, guild , friends ) and you’ll see the state of pvp is more then good. You can always get back to hotjoin for some pubstomp little zerg.
@labotimy funny reply , basically only a low ranked glory player who doesnt tpvp ( or paid ) has issues with glass cannon thieves running 14k hp. Having a 3 sec traited stealth with an immovable shadow refuge small aoe stealth can you still talk ? Did you ever play paid tpvp ? I hardly doubt it and if you did ? have you tried playing a glass cannon thief by any chance ? You obviously have no constructive feedback nor you know game mechanics as such.
oh man you totally demolished me with this response mr. pro gamer. i have done tournies prolly around 30 or 40 maybe more, not paid seeing as how they came out like last week and i already moved on. as posted previously im rank 2x and hit 2x during beta as well. no i have not tried a glass thief in tourny play, but have had at least 1 GLASS backstab using thief in just about every team i joined.
nice troll attempt btw, although not unique, basically every little piss ant that disagrees with a balance discussion will resort to the l2p argument.
This comming from the guy who walked away from tpvp and paid , letting us know how skilled is in his hotjoin PoV. Untill you try and run that glass cannon thief in a decent premade you have no argument. Also if you “walked” away why are you still concerned about the pvp situation which is extremely good atm. Hotjoin should be balanced by limiting the classes numbers per join , not by destroying a certain class untill it becomes unplayable , not from the cries of newcommers who dont know the game mechanics because if they did they wouldnt post in here and would be in game like most of us.
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@labotimy funny reply , basically only a low ranked glory player who doesnt tpvp ( or paid ) has issues with glass cannon thieves running 14k hp. Having a 3 sec traited stealth with an immovable shadow refuge small aoe stealth can you still talk ? Did you ever play paid tpvp ? I hardly doubt it and if you did ? have you tried playing a glass cannon thief by any chance ? You obviously have no constructive feedback nor you know game mechanics as such.
There’s no variety in builds, 50% of people are playing thiefs due to rendering issue, downed state makes 1v2s impossible, there’s no feeling of skill in gw2 and no sense of versatility., there’s no rewards, it’s quite disappointing to say the least.
50% ? Have you actually played any tournaments in this game ? free ones ? paid ones ? Clearly you know very little since you assume there is a 50% thief player base in the game , I recommend trying some tpvp or watch some tournament streams on twitch and come back to us later.
This funny thead still goes on , people should start actually pvping ( tpvp , paid , group up , team up ) and stop crying about the hotjoin balance where everyday you see 10 warriors , 10 thiefs and 10 mesmers on each side.
@ehtom same as your 14k hp thiefs one shotting in paid , pro tpvp tournaments where are those vids ? Dont keep us waiting to long !
They already tweaked shadow refuged , Jumper stop lying about your rank your obvious not playing a thief if you are and not uptodate then your bad.
You clearly dont do much pvp if you dont know Jumper
Im actually busy with my paid team and playing the game I stopped watching twitch streams and if I do i rather watch team paradigm. Assume more bro
The paid experience so far is good leaving aside the que times on certain servers at different times , alot of rly good teams with very good setups , the rewards could be better atleast they upped the glory from chests. My only gripe is that anet needs to stop allowing class changes mid game and at the begging of the game too many counter , copycat possibilities it will be alot more balanced without this.
@Wolfe it can also MISS , people need to stop lying about dying in 1.5 secs on a 20k health pool and either go practice the game or leave spvp alltogether.
@knight the day has come when a mesmer is complaining about a thief lol ? where are you clones bro ? Do I really need to start with the l2p thing.
If its not thieves , its mesmers , warriors and the next fotm class of the week. Untill ANet implements a class limit it will always be like this dont blame the thief class
What`s your glory rank , judging by your Peacemaker greatsword i`d say your new to the pvp game. Practice your mesmer some more.
They already tweaked shadow refuged , Jumper stop lying about your rank your obvious not playing a thief if you are and not uptodate then your bad.