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There are a lot of functions that GW1 had that I am disgusted didn’t make the cut to GW2
They should just change the name to Grind Wars and get it over with.
You can add me to the boycotting with my money and not going to purchase this expansion. I wanted GW2 to be a waaay better game then it is.
WvW Invitational Statement from John Corpening, game director for World vs. World
in WvW
Posted by: papaiggy.1345
Too little too late this statement should of been made months ago as it is I like many other players are done.
How’s this for staying on topic… TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!!! GOODBYE
Well now that this lovely event is over, what about all the rampant exploiting and cheating that was allowed to continue last week? What about numerous bugs and exploits that have been reported for years and nothing has been done? What about people in charge making completely ignorant remarks about the wvw player base and saying it as has no value to the longevity of the game.
X up with how many copies of the game you will not be buying of the expansion after last weeks shenanigans. Primarily allowing players to cheat and exploit with zero repercussions.
X only one copy in this household
But that also means no more gem store purchases etc. Assuming I even continue to play the game.
Really wvw players don’t buy gems? Last I looked it cost 1800 gems to server transfer and whole guilds do just that for wvw. So this has to be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said. I know when SBI wanted to recruit more guilds for wvw they had a server wide farm fest to buy gems, plus people donating cash paid for gems. They recruited at least 3 guilds that I know of with upwards of 20 members per guild. I doubt the average pve player spends upwards of 1800 gems every few months to hope servers much less anything else. And this isn’t even accounting for the wvw players who buy skins with gems. You don’t make much gold in wvw so most wvw players are forced to use real money for gems.
Personally I wouldn’t give a company that clearly doesn’t care about ALL it’s players any more money. Which is pretty much my plan.
Personally I would like to see the major offenders those with 2 or more reports filed on them have their characters rolled back to the reset.
The problem with the golem bug is it can be acquired by simply killing a golem. Now I don’t foresee how they can possibly ban players for killing golems.
First I have heard of this, but nice story bro.
Last night I witnessed a couple of guilds running this buff outside golems. Sadly our little Zerg was just k-training and all was good till someone mentioned my name calling for a report and I was totally confused until I looked at the list of buffs on me and somehow that stupid golem buff was present on me despite me not even being in a golem or knowing about it at all. I immediately asked how to get rid of it and luckily someone told me to get in a golem and it went away but jeeze, people are so fast to judge by insta-reporting me? I wasn’t even aware or had no ill intention of exploiting it. Very confusing and unfortunate, I hope I’m not the only one who’s been in a similar situation.
Nice story bro but you don’t just end up with this buff having not been in a golem. Matter of fact the ONLY way to get the buff is from having been in a golem.
L 2 Play quit wasting space on the forum with garbage like this.
OP sounds like a Ranger, they probably have some of the worst condi mitigation in the game ATM.
You are joking right? HAHAHAHAHA
At this point I am voting with my wallet and not buying the expansion or paying for gem store any more.
Anet, plz, do the following
1. fix this bug before tomorrow’s update
2. ban all the exploiters
3. stop this non-sense event immediately.Execution, if ANet bans everyone who every exploited this bug 90% of wvw players and hundreds of man hours would disappear which is why no one will be banned for it.
This here is what we call Hyperbole
So yes, winning a 15v50 against HoD is just because maguumans have a double damage buff? Yeah I don’t think so. I have witness today blobs of 60+ HoD (50%golems) lose to 15 maguumans who had the buff, it just makes the odds closer.
Not fighting HoD this week.
The reason the characters on foot who are exploiting this bug are winning is because they are more mobile, have more attacks and do more damage than the golems. Although, despite the bulk of the Maguuma server cheating in WvW this week they are still in 3rd place (currently). SBI seems to be a bit more honorable with many fewer people exploiting.
Anet, end this event.
Sry it’s CD this week, a even more salty server. Btw you win because your population is 5x as high as maguumas, sbi even more so. Don’t pretend CD never got 15v50ed by maguumans before the buff and pls do not lie and say your server does not abuse it.
When was the last time CD was against Mag? I can’t think any week in recent memory that we were matched up together so no, CD has not been “15v50ed” by your cheating server. Try again.
Just stay on the topic. That being a bunch of people cheating by exploiting the fact that you seem to want to cut hairs over typos and minor points tells me you must be a cheater too.
I would like to see ANet just roll back heir wvw exp and ranks instead of a bane.
Just right click and report their accounts for scamming.
That’s what we are doing in CD, 40 people just reported every single person we saw with the buff and not in a golem.
So we have two exploits that are annoying people. I am pretty certain the DEV’s have heard about both of them, Just as I am pretty certain they are probably working on a fix.
Other then that we got a HUGE ton of crying about the event it’s self.
My advice enjoy the event for what it is and have some fun instead of being a bunch of try hard’s. Get some patients and give the Dev’s a chance to fix it.
Is this where the try hards come to cry? I guess so.
Yes it is allowed and it especially sucks when the two servers with a higher population gang up on the 3rd smaller server.
Are there really people trying to White Knight this topic? This skill lag issue is very real and happens most often during large fights with tons of aoe and CC ie stability removing skills. I still think the server is being over taxed by the extra computations of removing and adding stability stacks (which in my opinion is still the absolute worst idea they have ever had btw).
OP needs to update his drivers.
Really so the fix for a few thousand players is they need to update their drivers? Well guess what genius my drivers are up to date with a top of the line system. Now what?
Calm down. You sound stressed. I think you need to update your drivers.
(facepalm)
Sorry for the late reply but thanks for the replies from both sides. I just wanted to clarify that I had no idea what the other commander colors were supposed to represent as when I played there only seemed to be blue (Or that was the only one that people used?) and the general idea was follow the group around. I checked the four WvW maps and they were the only one with a commander icon and they were linking waypoints in map chat so I jumped on that. I also did not know what Edge of the Mists was as this didn’t exist when I played either and I figured it was a form of structured pvp before today so I didn’t try going into it.
Anyways, I do still have an old level 80 Necromancer however it didn’t really feel like I was surviving more or doing any more damage than my engineer was. That characters in full exotics with full power / vitality / condition gear with 4/6/4/0/0 traits based around staff / scepter (I don’t know if this is the thing or not still (I’m assuming not)). I did try roaming a bit looking for small fights but anytime I ran into a ranger for example I generally got instantly dropped in 2-3 seconds before I had a chance to do much.
The commander in question was running a Yellow tag for his guild raid. That particular commander was also sporadically saying in /T that if you where an uplevel to not follow his tag but any level 80 was welcome to join as long as they got on TS.
There was a Blue tag on the same map at the same time which was the pug zerg.
Several people patiently and politely explained to you WHY they didn’t want you to follow them on an Uplevel. You basically in so many words told them to kitten off.
I never witnessed anyone threaten to report you or otherwise in /M or /T where most of the conversation seemed to be taking place.
Frankly I don’t understand the point in coming here and crying about it.
Hello, so I recently decided to start playing this again after having not touched it for two years and it seems like (on my server anyways, Stormbluff Isle) people seem to be extremely offended by somebody not being level 80 in pvp. Just tonight I was following a group around and was threatened to be mass reported by a guild and had another group even begging me with gold to leave WvW until I hit 80 on my character. (This is a new character that’s a level 49 eng). I didn’t even say anything to them so should I have to worry about losing access to my account if they did mass report me?
Please ignore trolls.
Don’t feed the trolls.
You have every right to be in WvW.
May I suggest you stay with zergs and be on level with your gear to give yourself the best experience while you are leveling.
Welcome to the real world – we learn in WvW what we need to do in real life many time:
Report the worst.
Block.
Move on.
Welcome to WvW… you’re needed no matter which server you are on.
Really? And what about the fact that it’s the Guild players game too? And they didn’t feel like having a liability follow them around. And yes this guy got us wiped at least two times by being a rally bot. That’s when we started asking him to stop following us.
I love how you defend one player’s right to play his game how he wants while at the same time stomping on another’s.
Maybe we should update our drivers… That was sarcasm btw since it is the generic fanboi/apologist answer.
With the stability changes and the new meta I recommend you roll a necro ele or ranger
OP needs to update his drivers.
Really so the fix for a few thousand players is they need to update their drivers? Well guess what genius my drivers are up to date with a top of the line system. Now what?
Hey come play massive combat WvW with no to a few other players!
Brilliant solution! I know when I go to play massive combat WvW I want the last possible number of people I can run into. That’s exactly what I look for.
Also waiting in queue has never been that bad cause it means you know there will be action there. It’s like waiting in line to get into a bar. Sure I could go to any dive bar and get in instantly or I could wait a bit and get into that hot new night club instead. It’s generally worth the wait.
Right because waiting in a que for a few hours is better. kitten .
Looks like what I expected from Anet concerning WvW more anti Melee siege, More CC, More Siege To Win… working as intended.
Pops in, I see that this topic is now number 20ish after all the other new bugs… I see that they still have not given an update or eta, I see that all the little fan boys are in here sticking up for the screw up.
Goes back to playing other games, and states that anet best hope one of them doesn’t catch his fancy more then gw2 before they come up with a fix.
Well I am pretty much done. They have had over a week to figure out what they broke. the current fps makes the game unplayable, and I have a good system in this regard.
So with this latest turn of events I will do what gamer’s for decades have done when an MMO makes it clear they don’t care. Moving on to the next game. Was fun while it lasted. Good luck with the expansion as I am sure I am not the only person who will be leaving the game.
So before the recent patch today, I thought the fps drop when checking scoreboard in sPvP/Pressing “B” was fixed. The patch today brought back the fps drops, and it’s frustrating again.
Different problem wrong thread.
Is there a way to take a pole and see how many of us have AMD cards. I have a suspicion that it is mostly folks with AMD cards having the issue.
im absolutely gunna cry if they tell us to screw out and get a better computer when the fps problem is not able to be fixed.
if that happens they lost 30% of player base at least.
Not to mention the bad comments on youtube driving ppl away from purchasing the game and upcoming expansion.
This issue simply must not be ignored. Revert the changes if it has to be done just give ppl back their old fps.
On my crappy dual core 2,2 athlon, 3gb Ram, and ASUS EAH 5450 1gb, i noticed minor fps drop. From 25-20 to 18-20.
It’s still huge loss for me, but considering that some ppl lost 50fps I feel lucky :PFix this or face consequences that might come. Dont turn overall friendly community into mad people that will drive off your future customers trough social networks.
World is global village now, what happens here doesn’t stay here :P Think about it and fix this kitty kitty.
I said something very similar to this and got my post deleted, so I reminded them that there are plenty of other social networks and forums that they do not control and can’t delete if that’s how they wanted to play.
It has actually gotten worse no instead of 20-25fps I am getting 15-17fps
And still no official response to the 1000’s of players this is effecting.
artificial time gates are stupid.
Its a bad mechanic. Especially ones like 100 day things. Keep people logging in by making a good game, not by limiting progress.It doesnt really matter if someone does something that takes 24 hours, in 24 hours, a week or a month.
the same time was invested.the type of mechanical, simulation inspired changes you are talking about, are part of why the game feels grindy.
the average person/group taking a week to master a fight is not the same as making someone wait a week to do something.time gating isnt about making people logging in or some way around a bad game.
Think about it, why would you log in every day to get rewards in a game you dont enjoy playing? no time gate is going to force you to play a game you have no intention of playing.
A time gate is a great mechanic when it comes to remove grind.
An MMO is made up from a ton of fluff to hide cold boring mechanics.
A reward’s cost always boils down to time. If something requires 250 ectos to craft its not because it needs said raw material but because its a reward for playing x amount of time where x is the average time needed to gather 250 ectos. This however creates a ton of problems.
Player A might play 1hr per day and what they usually play gives them .5 ectos per day.
Player B might play 8hrs per day and what they do gives them 10 ectos per day.You want your reward to “cost” 100 days but for Player A that means 50 ectos while for player B that means 1000 ecto so what do you do? You may find if you take all players in consideration that means 250 ecto but obviously thats not perfect. Far from it. You’re forcing player A to work 250 days for his reward.
You’re over rewarding Player B by giving him his reward in 25 days instead of 100. The majority of the players need to spend 100 days going after ecto.Enter time gating. With time gating you dont need players to spend a whole day doing a specific thing so you can keep your target time cost for the reward. With laurels Anet had us spend 30 mins in game and that was enough. Hence Player A and Player B could do what they want and still both get their reward after a 100 days. Perfect timing for all.
More importantly no need to spend a whole day potentially doing something you dont enjoy only cause it gets you your reward faster.
Like you said though that also means you cannot rush your reward… is that really a bad thing though? its exactly whats causing people to feel the game super grindy. You’re compressing 100 days of work down to 25 days. Thats like working 4 jobs at once, of course its going to feel grindy!
That time gating is forcing to log in is also a fallacy really.
Yes if you dont log in, it will take you 101 days instead of 100 but then again without time gating, you could slave and get your reward in 25 days instead of 100 sure.. then again if you dont log in one day that 25 will become 26… how is it any different?
Time gating is the worst idea ever in a game in my personal opinion. Look at Charged Crystals and the numbers needed to accomplish anything to understand why I say that.
Anet did NOT say “the game has NO grind at all” they know there is ( they made the game. lol) however, they said you don’t have to do it.
I did not read the whole thing but here are my thoughts on this topic in general:
the reason they took WvW map completion from the 100% world completion is because many servers are stuck vs way stronger servers, and never get a chance to do the WvW map completion, so that’s not something they are changing about the ‘Grind’ in the game rather its a fix for a problem.take away the grind and make the game grind free!, everyone get dungeon master because they played the dungeon once and just for playing the game for 100 hours lets give you a legendary(that a grind for hours though) and lets not reward players who played the game days in and days out and invested many hours of game play and make em just like everyone who played the game for 3 days and quit, no more special skins for fractal grinders who played them for 100’s of hours to get that lame underwater skin that no one ever see and make it once you play an underwater fractal you automatically get the skin, and once you finish all fractals you get the fractal tonic that only a hand full of players have ATM, and once you kill a player in WvW you get the “ultimate dominator” title and kill a player in PvP and get dragon rank and finisher, I think you know where im going with this.
if you don’t want a ‘grind’ in a game maybe you should be playing a single player game not an MMORPGYou lost me at I did not read the OP but I am going to give me unfounded opinion on the topic title.
They’re making a few good points there, even without having read the OP fully.
I don’t give the respect of reading someone’s points good or otherwise who can’t give the same basic respect of reading the original post, that’s not how discussion and civil discourse works. It’s childish.
The overall issue is that Anet like many companies before them have embraced the Everquest methodology that WoW refined. That being “Stupidly hard, almost completely impossible, equates to more fun”.
People like to have a sense of achievement. They like to feel like they have accomplished something. Most people do not mind if that something takes a bit of time.
I like the example of world completion, the first time you do it you get a rush of joy at the accomplishment you did it, celebrate party time come on… however, after doing it 8 times on 8 different characters that sense of accomplishment is greatly diminished and the only reason you are doing it is for the minor rewards. Did you have to do it on all 8 characters? No. Did anyone force you to do it? No. Was it a grind and boring as hell? Yes. Was the minor rewards worth it? Maybe, clearly to you they were as you put yourself through that grind.
Now take into consideration Arah and Dungeon Completion. This dungeon is so miserably difficult that no one accept the uber elites even touch the thing. Which makes it a considerable chunk of content that is basically wasted on the majority of the player base because they don’t visit it. Even asking in guild chat if anyone would like to take a crack at Arah is a an immediate episode of chuckles and yeah rights and get out of here you fool. Personally I consider the entire dungeon of Arah a complete fail on the game designers part. However, with that I also specifically mentioned this as a perfect example of being able to get the skins from Arah in a completely different way then dealing with a ridiculously stupidly hard dungeon, primarily the PVP reward tracks. Okay I like pvp I find it fun, and look I can now get the Arah skins without even setting foot in the place even better. I understand this doesn’t work for everyone but I think this is a good example of going in the right direction to make things seem to be less of a grind by being able to acquire them in more then one way. I know I have to unlock the things on the reward track which is a grind but at least I am having fun while I am doing it.
That is what gaming is about right? Having fun? I think a lot of people are forgetting that. And every thing in the game that requires a grind optional or otherwise is a giant huge monstrous fun sucker. Tedious does not = fun.
The overall issue is that Anet like many companies before them have embraced the Everquest methodology that WoW refined. That being “Stupidly hard, almost completely impossible, equates to more fun”.
People like to have a sense of achievement. They like to feel like they have accomplished something. Most people do not mind if that something takes a bit of time.
I like the example of world completion, the first time you do it you get a rush of joy at the accomplishment you did it, celebrate party time come on… however, after doing it 8 times on 8 different characters that sense of accomplishment is greatly diminished and the only reason you are doing it is for the minor rewards. Did you have to do it on all 8 characters? No. Did anyone force you to do it? No. Was it a grind and boring as hell? Yes. Was the minor rewards worth it? Maybe, clearly to you they were as you put yourself through that grind.
Now take into consideration Arah and Dungeon Completion. This dungeon is so miserably difficult that no one accept the uber elites even touch the thing. Which makes it a considerable chunk of content that is basically wasted on the majority of the player base because they don’t visit it. Even asking in guild chat if anyone would like to take a crack at Arah is a an immediate episode of chuckles and yeah rights and get out of here you fool. Personally I consider the entire dungeon of Arah a complete fail on the game designers part. However, with that I also specially mentioned this as a perfect example of being able to get the skins from Arah in a completely different way then dealing with a ridiculously stupidly hard dungeon, primarily the PVP reward tracks. Okay I like pvp I find it fun, and look I can now get the Arah skins without even setting foot in the place even better. I understand this doesn’t work for everyone but I think this is a good example of going in the right direction to make things seem to be less of a grind. I know I have to unlock the things on the reward track which is a grind but at least I am having fun while I am doing it.
That is what gaming is about right? Having fun? I think a lot of people are forgetting that. And every thing in the game that requires a grind optional or otherwise is a giant huge monotonous fun sucker. Tedious does not = fun.
Anet did NOT say “the game has NO grind at all” they know there is ( they made the game. lol) however, they said you don’t have to do it.
I did not read the whole thing but here are my thoughts on this topic in general:
the reason they took WvW map completion from the 100% world completion is because many servers are stuck vs way stronger servers, and never get a chance to do the WvW map completion, so that’s not something they are changing about the ‘Grind’ in the game rather its a fix for a problem.take away the grind and make the game grind free!, everyone get dungeon master because they played the dungeon once and just for playing the game for 100 hours lets give you a legendary(that a grind for hours though) and lets not reward players who played the game days in and days out and invested many hours of game play and make em just like everyone who played the game for 3 days and quit, no more special skins for fractal grinders who played them for 100’s of hours to get that lame underwater skin that no one ever see and make it once you play an underwater fractal you automatically get the skin, and once you finish all fractals you get the fractal tonic that only a hand full of players have ATM, and once you kill a player in WvW you get the “ultimate dominator” title and kill a player in PvP and get dragon rank and finisher, I think you know where im going with this.
if you don’t want a ‘grind’ in a game maybe you should be playing a single player game not an MMORPG
You lost me at I did not read the OP but I am going to give me unfounded opinion on the topic title.
People only party up for fractals, dungeons, pvp, wvw, and world events.
8+ hours and not a single response. Typical customer service. I was about to buy gems for the month, forget that, going to hold off until they decide making the game playable is worthwhile after breaking it.
I can confirm this as well with the UI open I drop to 22 fps, when I turn off the UI it jumps back up to 44+
Yep cut me in half from 45+ to 19-22
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