Guild Wars 2

I was commanding in RoF BL yesterday evening and I must say, you gave us really hard time. At first it was just me and 10ish guildees which I called, repelling you from Sunny and Crag, eventually more and more PUGs popped up. Sorry that I couldn’t give you more fun open field fights, but like I mentioned – I had too few guildees, part of which were busy with scouting/repelling some WSR in hills area, so my zerg was 80-90% PUG, half of them weren’t even on our TS.

Ninja caps of Bay from RoS seem to get into our habit, we did almost the same vs RoS, back when XT was there, camping our Bay :P

kribre.9683:

Tbh, I do think RoF might pull more numbers into WvW then RoS does, especially when you guys tell us you had a queue on RoS border at some point. I’ve only seen a queue on RoS in tkitten map, and then the queue is like 30s – 1 min. I’ve never seen a queue in any other borderland the last month I’ve been here :P

But the main difference between RoS and RoF is that RoF is mostly pug based, while RoS are more guild based. Which, in my opinion normaly makes the guild based server more efficent, especially during the guilds playtime. But to little pug presence, is also a devestating cause of losing.

We had a community wide call to arms, and it cna’t happen every day :P And I totally agree that it is RoS guilds that make difference whenever they show up. I think RoF guilds significantly improved recently, but that’s still a lot we have to do.

Sceinna.3561:

Certain RoF guilds push way more numbers than RiOT does, on a good day we push 30 (after guild PvE events) but usually we run with about 20ish

Now you made me interested Can you name these guilds on RoF that push way more then 20-30? Afaik we have 3 guilds that roll around 15, maybe sometimes up to 20 (NaZ, PI and TaG), FIRE brings 10ish (correct me if I’m wrong) on a more or less regular basis (and it is not every day)

Sceinna.3561:

Velocity stood up from the death this week, I find it hard to believe they push over 20 as well.. I’m not sure where you are getting these numbers from mate.

MiLkZz.4789:

Yesterday we had an official corporation event and had 35 employees attending.

;)

I am not saying that you can’t push harder. I am not saying that you didn’t win prime time (as so far you had highest tick throughout prime time 5 of 6 days). And it is VcY and RiOT that make the difference then.

Thing is, I feel that RoF made a big effort this week, trying to stay competitive. And you saying, that the only reason that the score is close is that RoS didn’t feel like pushing hard feels just offensive to all these people trying their best

I agree, the bay fight was a total mess on our part, we were just running in 1 by 1 to keep circle contested :/ And we had more people in RoS BL than in yours, it had queue at one point ^^, you sniping garrison made us pull back from RoS hills when we finally broke outer and started sieging inner, but that’s how being 2nd in the 3 way fight works :P

Sulvation.5473:

PS. Really enjoying this match up, not blobbing over BLs etc. Quite equal fights.

Yes, this matchup is really fun, and it proved to be way more balanced than I expected (I think we have closest score in EU atm). Definitely best matchup for RoF since the random mathcups started (first we had FoW and Vabbi, after that we got destroyed by UW numbers and coverage)

kribre.9683:

I dont understand why RoF complain we dont hit WSR bl… did u guys take a look at WSR border yesterday? FIRE were there atleas and reflipped Hills and Garrison after some other RoS guys had flipped them both :P

Actually, garri was our paintjob ^^

I think it was DeX – they claimed our garrison and many of their players come from FRS aka Xaoc, so I would totally expect morning golem rush from them. Besides, we made their commander mad yesterday

The Umpire.9510:

great job [TAG] guild from RoF chasing 1 guy with 10+

hahahahaha (Y)

so it might also be personal :P

EDIT: okay, some ninja posts before me :P

Yeah, I also doubt they will hit WSR

Haha, I’m watching MOS map as well :P And our garri just flipped again

Actually, yesterday evening they were pushing RoS bay couple times (I think it was TEO, but I might be wrong). But, a lot of RoF ppl have a feeling WSR love our BL way more than RoS one :P

I am not denying WSR effort during this matchup, but I think they are enjoying us nad RoS going for each other all the time I think, last serious attack on WSR BL (at least around primetime/early night, when I usually play) was at Saturday. Their keeps didn’t flip since 2-3 days :P

Tioc.5638:

This match up has been a lot closer than most would have thought, there has been a lot of good fights, the odd blob, but thats to be expected. Best of all its been fought in a fairly good tempered way, with little of the name calling that plagues many of these threads.

Aye, matchup is fun, I think WSR didn’t get their usual share of border defense tho :P RoF and RoS are mostly busy going for each other’s throats, and I think you might prove the ones who will decide who wins this matchup.

*feels sad about waking up to see RoF bl painted red*

We had to constantly move around maps, as WSR were flipping towers in our BL (and you also tried to hit our Bay) ^^

I wouldn’t call that a zerg tho, I think we had 15ish ppl in TS (including scouts we were leaving when moving BL). There might have been also ppl that were not on TS but not during these saves as I doubt they would keep up with us changing maps every 10min. Anyway, I think we had more or less even numbers during these fights so I agree, it was fun

Sceinna.3561:

Hmm, we are flattered but what makes you think RiOT is uberhaxt1professional? We are a casual PvX guild, infact most of ours members are PvE, what “we do” any guild can do.

Randoms run with us a lot and you may think of it as “blobbing”, but those randoms we try to shake off all the time.. they just see RiOT tag and stick with it, this is no good for us because they die and rally opponents.

Yesterday we had to escape EB, because when you were charging in, we couldn’t use any skills (before someone says that I’m accusing RiOT of blobbing, I’ll add that was the first case during this matchup).

Also, I think RiOT has biggest guild group in this matchup – none of our guilds can pull 20-25 ppl into WvW. Like I mentioned in this thread before, I have a feeling that you also made bigger progress throughout few previous weeks then we (TaG) did, you had more chances to fight organized groups.

Trust me, we weren’t expecting this as well :P We have quite the opposite impression to the one GH had last week – in prime time (a.k.a. when RiOT/VcY raid, there is really strong correlation between presence of these, and PPT of RoS :P ) RoS tick highest, then we make points in the morning (our crew at that time was always pretty ok) and afternoon.

agnofinitra.6791:

RoS took hills back with 3 trebs and a golem vs 7ish people… took you an hour though.

I guess DeX was relieved to finally PvD into hills :P We wiped them quite a couple of times before

Krosan.2890:

We have about 3 guilds who can pull 15+ people to WvW

Also, all these guilds aren’t pure WvW, but PvX, so we don’t raid every day, which means, we can’t afford to run on our own every time (TaG does it, whenever we can tho)

Well, for RoS, it is logical to hit us – the scores are tight atm and WSR is pretty far behind. As for the smallest server, they are mostly defending and I think they just see an opportunity when RoS is pushing us (at least it is what I would do being the underdog – hit the attacked server, not the attacking one, as that might cause them to turn on me). All in all, I highly doubt there’s an alliance going on ^^

ikiturso.4026:

This must be the best matchup in GW2 wvw history. Insane battles like wsr bay. We wont give homeground freely :P.

Yeah, battles in WSR bay, briar and vale were fun we had a lot of practise on fighting bigger zergs ^^

And your reinforcements in bay came in time, because us and VcY were busy shooting catas at each other on inner wall :P

Reset was fun TaG started at RoS bl, where we got overrun a couple times by RiOT group (it seems to me that you made bigger progress then we did since we last met; back then I had a feeling that you’re almost within our reach, now the gap widened, gj there). We also managed to take tham down once, but it was while they rushed into fully sieged toewr, so it hardly counts.

After that we moved to our BL to help push RoS back there and moved on to WSR BL. Thank you all WSRs for fights between garri and Longview and in Longview itself. GJ being persistent, you kept coming and coming and finally pushed us out

Cya on the battlefield

Of course. If you have better coverage at given time (aka have more ppl) then other server you are obviously going to tick more points (why do you think NA servers have recruitment posts all over the place, looking for EU/SEA players?). It is especially true in hours outside prime time, when you rarely see organized guild raids (which can defeat bigger numbers, so a server with less numbers, but better guilds can hold against the one with more pugs).

Also, I fail to see how a duel would clear something up, but if that is what you need, feel free to /w me ingame

Well, if data on the website that is using Anet’s API, that was meant to allow 3rd party sites to create various statistics, is for you “data from the Moon”, I have no further questions

Okay. Can you pls tell me, how average points, gained at given time of the day

Sin.4130:

dosen’t say anything about coverage

For me, it is a really good indicator, which server is strong at which time (= has good coverage). If you take a closer look, you might notice, that RoF is on average ticking higher than BT throughout the day, except for the 6am-10am gap. This means, that this time (when you have way bigger tick then we do) is the key to you having 2nd spot, as you have more points total.

Okay, my bad for not pointing detailed instructions for young padawan. Pick your server name from first combobox (the window with dropdown list) and “Averaged by time of the day” from third. And we were doing fine in our BL (no queue obvoiusly, we don’t have that manpower) as UW had to move some ppl back to their BL and they couldn’t push past south towers

Sin.4130:

just ride UW bay with few invaders

We had 30 min queue at UW BL at one point. And no, BT isn’t winning by luck. BT is winning due to better morning coverage.

(If you don’t believe me, check http://gw2tracker.net/wvw/stats/live to see points distribution by hour)

Anyway, I’m not going to deny that BT improved a lot since we last met and I wonder what would be the outcome if we met without UW obviously outmanning us both

Maybe you missed us taking UW garri yesterday then. Also, TaG, NaZ and FR spent entire evening pushing UW Bay (which was even mantioned on this thread). Aside from reset (which we spent on UW BL), my guild was sharing the WvW evenings even between UW and BT borders

Also, I’m not saying that going for RoF is bad tactics if you want to keep 2nd spot, more love given to UW would just make that matchup more interesting

Sin.4130:

RoF practically dosen’t show without UW at all

Last time my guild was on BT BL (Tuesday evening) there was actually no UW there. They only showed up after we took your lake and hills and went for briar so first thing they did was to try to sandwich us. Besides, UW have so many people that they rarely have no presence at all on any map, so it might give you impression of that.

What I’d like to see it BT pushing UW more, instead of ignoring UW BL and EB most of the time and coming RoF BL instead

Also, on UW BL during the reset, we had outmanned buff most of the time ^^

Aye, I don’t think it must have been zoomhack. If you place AC on the side of gate, you have pretty ok FOV inside tower

Ooooh I was hoping that there was more posts in this thread :P I guess everyone were busy fighting, we had a blast in UW borderlands. We had a lot of fun fights against both UW and Blacktide. I hope that we can keep that pace all week

And UW, we were totally sure you were going to take bay from us when inner walls went dowmn and you had like 2-3 times our numbers around :O

I think RoF numbers easily doubled or tripled when the news of anet on Vabbi bl were spread :P

Not sure about other guilds, but in TaG many ppl left their PvE stuff and jumped into WvW just to fight devs after shout in guild chat

Runehand.9368:

Because the EU and NA servers aren’t located right next to each other at all.

Oh well, if Germany and US somehow became neighbours, then yes

Thanks to FoW guys for coming and for fun duels, 2v2 and 3v3

And sorry for the 2 PLS that came there to ruin our small event, there was nothing we could do to stop them TBH, it was 1st time I’ve seen these in WvW and I bet they will be gone once we won’t be dominating side. Too bad that it destroyed the fun and relaxed atmosphere we had there.

Just to let you know, the most common reaction among RoF gathered there was “I would transfer to FoW just to kill these” ^^

Raybunny.6190:

We got T3 and T4 on our tails.. All the time!

Well, at least you have something to do in WvW… Yay for RoF ticking +680…

Yes, the duels were fun, even tho there was not many ppl participating. Cheers to [PRO] guardian who joined us, even tho his upscaled ranger companion kept messing into duels with his pet :P

I hope we can get some more tomorrow evening, again at Vabbi windmill

If they didn’t leave their servers yet, that means that they have something called server pride. It also means, that your post probably insults FoW and Vabbi guys that keep on fighting…

Actually, I doubt it would do good. All of lower tier servers tend to have next to none night coverage. That would mean that most of ppl would be just fighting doors because of different timezones.

Sirendor.1394:

I don’t get why they split NA and EU in the first place. The only reason seems to be difference in timezone, but generally I like NA players just as much as EU players.

It is because NA servers are located in US and EU are in Germany. That way we all can have decent latency.

ghtchill.7613:

It could be worse…look at Maguuma v Dragonbrand!

Look at RoF-FoW-Vabbi ^^

Oh yes, typical thinking. And doing the opposite – merging NA servers into EU didn’t even cross your mind.
Also, I don’t want to increase my latence, please leave my server alone.

Oh yes, it was a nice defense at Dawn’s FoW guys

After this portal we were all like “omg, this didn’t happen” :P Also, Jd guys, you seem to be very practised at hiding in enemy towers/keeps.

I feel sorry for all 3 servers matched up this week, it looks like neither of us is getting a lot of fun in WvW :/

Actually, I think people were asking for this since BWEs. this would be really welcome addition, it’s really silly that we only have either 5 man group or map wide commander :/

Yes, reset was pretty intense and fun I wish all servers could field such numbers all week long.

Thank you ECL and dova for fights at your BL yesterday

Ben K.6238:

JQ is the only one in NA that’s been in the top tier since shortly after launch (excepting one week around end of September/beginning of October).

Fixed that for you.

Actually, VS has been longer in t1 than JQ. I have no clue, why NA players mostly stay fixed only on their ladder (and also seem to ignore any EU-related posts).

Dayra.7405:

lol, change the header to “Top 5 most stable servers of NA” or put Vizunah on place 1: 23 times on rank 1

Arborstone, I must say I’ve more enjoyed fighting you on the weekend, when you were running in 2 groups on map – these were fun fights. Yesterday, you gathered all of people in the map into 40-50 man single blob (and judging on the fact that you were wiped from EB, you also called reinforcements from there).

And Tz, your mesmer died next to watergate in our Bay to be ressed from outside… It doesn’t make your guild look good in our eyes :/

If their treb was higher than yours, they needed to channel the “fire” skill shorter to shoot at the same range as yours treb, which means they had faster shoot rate.

TaG spent most of the time fighting in Arborstone borderland. As expected AS pulled really large numbers and were pushing on every borderland.

Thumbs up for all Arborstone for not being afraid of open field fights – a lot of fun, wiping and getting wiped (gj there RCT, you got us quite a couple times.

The most fun moment was 3-way at Arbor garrison (and I think like 3-4 ppl got their world completion after we managed to get it)

After that, we decided to knock to WSR bay. Nice move waiting behind gate corner, first time it was a total surprise. Too bad that we couldn’t stay longer, but we had to move back to Arbor to repel it’s inhabitants from hills.

Good luck to everyone and may your lootbags be full of shinies

See you on the battlefield

Yes, it was fun, too bad that we failed our stand at inner door :P But we were preparing for RiOT and saw XxX group sneaking in to our backs in last moment, soon enough to pull back not to get backstabbed.

Too bad that we had only 10-12 ppl yesterday, we couldn’t give RiOT a proper fight :/ especially in the start of our event we were being tossed arounds by zergs all the way

It doesn’t look like they are going to tier up, Dzagonur were on the rampage during the weekend and VoTF left RoS, so it seems like they will stay a bit longer :P

If it was on Saturday, then I wasn’t online, I was talking about our attack during prevoius matchup (I think Wednesday or Thursday). And I’m not speaking of NaZ, but just of TaG

Ilesyt.7084:

RoF will become opportunistic and attack our things, especially NaZ and TaG, they tend to come to our bl and golem rush Cragtop or other keeps just for the fun of it

We didn’t golem rush Crag, it were plain old superior rams, just saying

You are also right that we want fun from WvW, that’s why we try to split from zerg and move to other BL to cause mess there whenever we can.

And no point in starting the old focusing talk, that’s how 3-way battle works, everyone is doubleteamed at some point.