Guild Wars 2

And I thought, that entertainment provided by this thread is over

Sin.4130:

I would say that most of my correctly (no mobs around, not rushed before „bow” shout etc.) losted fights were with pretty big chance to win.

Can you tell me, in which exactly of the fights that Freyn recorded you had real chance of winning? I counted exactly 1 Eviscerate that actually hit the target (not counting the one that hit clone)… Do you even use stability?

Sin.4130:

Salute to those mesmer and warrior I had no chance at all. Long way before my I see.

Admitting that was a small step ahead, but since then you did 5 backwards.

Sin.4130:

How much you will pay me for this waste of time?

Ahahahaha, now that someone agreed to your silly idea of going sPvP, you’re going to back off from that too?

Yes I Cap.5389:

We have to try for something since drakkar already safely secured…

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-Most open field siege in regular meetings with zergs half their size

If you mean open field siege in total, then yes, but if most open field siege in one encounter, then credit goes to [HON] from Dzag and their 4 open field ACs shortly followed by 3 ballistas

I would also add “The best siegecreepers of bronze league” title to DL tho ^^

Lol, and I almost thought he’s going to duel you

Nubu.6148:

Ill bet you will not win 1 of 10 duells.

Why do you think he’s not going to come?

You seem to forget a guard that you never managed to drop below 90% health

Jathres.7236:

So you chicken out, even when you have a Guild with enough players and claiming your zerg is so good at fighting.

He already did like that before. We had an entertaining argument, but when he ran out of arguments, he actually challenged me for a duel to prove he’s right (sic!). Unfortunately, before I got home from work, 2 or 3 of my guildees already found him and beat in 1v1, so I never heard a word from him in-game

If you want to fight a guild from BT, I think you’re better asking SHN – afair they were GvGing CC from our server (and will also most likely give you better fight )

crawls back to RoF’s boring matchup thread

The weirdest part of it was that part of our guild was lagging and rubberbending like crazy, while rest was totally fine and had no issues at all

Rebuilding cannons/mortars/oil counts as building (the build sites are like dropped down blueprints), not repairing. I think that the minor achevement thing isn’t worth totally reworking the way that siege works. It would be better to allow repairs on them, when they get damaged and not destroyed.

Thank you Dzagonur for really fun and close matchup. Grats on securing the win, it is a shame tho, that WvW is so designed that it is off time civerage that makes a difference (RoF took lead due to nightcapping, you made it back with morning coverage resulting in downgrading our stuff for prime time). Anyways, thanks for everyone involved for the fights (personally, I liked fighting SWAT in the weekend mostly, I think we ran similar numbers). I hope we will meet more often when league ends, but I bet we’re going to get thrown agains servers 10 ranks higher again :P

Stolen.2045:

I guess 99,99% of all players don’t do this… at least because they doesnt know how xD

I don’t think so still have some faith left in humanity. I know of few glitches that let you go past the gate without destroying it, but I would NEVER use it (with the exception of doing it on purpose of making screenshot to send bug report, not like I still hope that anet is going to fix bugs that were in-game since day 1…).

You don’t do the basic thing, that support focused guardian should do – there is not a single bit of stability in your build – you don’t use neither SYG nor Indomitable Courage, despite going 30 into Virtues. You use bow to remove conditions, instead of traiting Superior Aria and Pure of Voice, which does hte work way better (why would anyone pick Battle Presence over PoV is beyond me )

doc phil.8015:

Yeah i’d say RoF and Dzag are pretty much even matched

Totally agreed, and it’s what makes that matchup really interesting, tensed and fun. Too bad anet can’t see that and is going to bring back RNG matchups after league.

And I also loved matches with Dzag, RoS and GH in t7 before RNG matchups started

aspirine.6852:

Sin.4130:

Germans play fairly as always, RoF seems to be focused only on DZ, that’s pretty sad to see

Sarcasm does not work as well on forums as it does in real life.

I don’t know if it was sarcasm or not, my gulid was fighting Germans all weekend long
/shrug

Sin.4130:

Germans play fairly as always, RoF seems to be focused only on DZ, that’s pretty sad to see

Well, I think there is nothing unusual in the fact, that we throw our main forces onto stronger opponent, especially when scores between us and Dzag are so close. Also, no offense, but Germans give us better fights most of the time. Yesterday, TaG travelled to BT BL for a while, after we ran out of enemies in our border (we were basically defending all Saturday and Sunday) and we flipped all 3 keeps with barely any opposition. That is hardly fun ^^

Also, thank to SWAT nad HON for all the fights we had in last 2 days, it was a lot of fun It is good to seee SWAT running on their own and not blobbing up even after being defeated sometimes keep it up. HON – I take it as a compliment that you feel the need to build 2-4 ACs in open field to face us, even if it is already 40v25

@Treszone, actually, during most of the fights we had lower numbers then you and these were fights that we enjoyed. Well, as much as I hated chasing smaller groups (as you mentioned, it’s not fun, I agree), we wanted to prevent you from flipping south camps, it was nothing personal

Never forget that TaG are cheaters and AC hackers

That could be indeed nice, but there are technical limitations for bodyblocking. Anet servers are dieing in big battles even now (skill lag) and additional collision detection between all these players would make it even worse. Furthermore, it would most likely introduce problems with rubberbanding.

OchrisO.8450:

it was 2:1 for you and we still took alot of you down

I definitely wasn’t 2:1 ^^ you had 15 and I think we had 18 or so at this point. But I agree that we had initial advantage and you recovered from the first strike nicely.

I’d prefer to fight you on our own at NW as well, you can’t really control pugs tho. There was also nowhere near 4:1. I doubt we had 60 ppl total on entire map.

Now now now

We already have nightcapping, handholding, we still need someone to cry about blobbing, AC hack accusations and golem rush complaints to complete the checklist of a proper matchup thread.

I never said that I didn’t enjoy the fights ^^ It is just a shame, that when we have nice fight with a guild, some other feels like adding up and ruining it.

This matchup is way more fun then what we had last week, and what we are going to have next week

Agrios.9071:

We didnt have a single fair fight with them.

Yes, it was too bad that either you had a fair bit of pugs around + VM, outnumbering us vastly, or, when we met you on your own, it was you on number disadvantage.

Nice scouting in your BL, I must admit.

Agrios.9071:

Atleast you cant mean us with saying handholding. ^^

I think he mainly meant KISS + NP in RoF BL.

From what I heard, it’s hard to even get into WvW there, due to queues

Thank you SHN/HoD/IX group for fights today, it was definitely the best ones we’ve had in this matchup. Out of curiosity, how many people did you have? We were running around 25 at this point.

Sin.4130:

Next time I will make some pictures to refresh your memory.

Can’t wait to see them

Sin.4130:

When we started to farm TaG

And what else were you dreaming about? Or did you mean, when we were pushing your garrison with full map defending?

And I think you might have never seen guilds blobbing. If there are 2 groups on the map, they are bound to meet SOMETIMES, especially, if crossed swords pop up on the map for a while. It’s a difference between that and blobbing.

Oh well, I hope today evening will be more entertaining then what was most boring reset in a while.

RoF had a queue in as you said “enternal”, and pls, find out what terms actually mean, before you use them. We were not blobbing in your BL, we had 2-3 groups going all the time. In case you didn’t know blob = monobus with all people in map at one spot. Actually, it was one of the more boring resets we’ve had in a while, a fight worth mentioning was athe one between garri and bay, out of curiosity, how many times did you respawn during these like 15-20 mins?

I am not really one, who complains about stuff like doubleteaming. But as Hule said, DL guy confirmed it in our matchup thread.

Hule.8794:

Ahh Anya is watching Mos map at work. Am I right?(doing same thing)

Obviously :P

So, do you expect me not to play with my guild? Also 25 is hardly a blob. Wait until you meet german 50-70 monobus.

Oh, there’s not a single red objective on EB right now. I wonder what’s going to happen now :P

Well, it’s Pink Day today, so expect pink TaG raid on reset :P

I must say, that so far I was trying to tone down the QQ that was coming from my guildees, as being on 2nd spot usually means getting most focus. I was blaming what was happening rather on vacation in Germany then anything else. If what Alerion said is true, it is going to leave very bad taste after what was one of the most fun and even matchups we had in a while (especially until Wednesday, coincidence?).

Cheers to all Dz and DL that were playing it a fair 3-way.

@Latea, think how RoF players, who also put a lot of effort, feel right now.

Alerion.3708:

I really hope you can get back on your feet and defend the second place.

I’m afraid it is going to be hard for us to stop Dzagonur momentum right now. Our morning/afternoon coverage is not great, and school holidays in Germany doesn’t help too

Oh well, back to work while lurking at online map :P

Kryank.8069:

we also had a lot of pugs following our group about

To make thing clear, we were running tagless, but the pugs were sticking like magnets, as there was no pug commander on the map :P

It looks like it’s slightly better on RoF, yesterday we had 2 maps queued (home BL and EB), 1 not full, but without outnumbered buff, and 1 with given buff. I must admit, that WvW yesterday was pretty awful, as only fights we could find, were full map blobs, often bulding siege to fight us, servers were lagging like hell and a lot of guildees were getting disconnected… (I totally understand none of this is fault of regular WvWers of opposing servers, just need to whine a bit ). Well, I hope we can get better fights during the week.

Apparently, bandwagon is strong in them

Shadowresli.3782:

where are all these players coming from. Last week i never saw so much people from RoF. But a lot of fun and bags …

Neither did we. We had all maps queued right after reset :O

Jayne.9251:

Anyone else finding that the link to the survey doesn’t work?

Yes, it’s not working for me as well.

Ah yes, Bt War or something like that

Alerion.3708:

When did all the guilds moved to RoS? Last week they lost against BT

I think it was this week. I another thread I found info that KISS moved there too (coming back from NA servers)

RoS seems to have that thing that makes WvW guilds choose them as transfer target – it’s 3rd time this happens, I wonder how long it will take this time until it collapses again (no offense to RoS players that stay loyal to their server, whether it’s good or bad )

1) Commander/squad functionality (private squads!)
2) Population imbalance (transfer costs based on PvE population)
3) PvE vs WvW reward balancing
4) Bulk recipes for superior siege (click, click, click…)

I never said that they can’t be dangerous. Trust me, I wiped to numerous PUG blob more than once I just pointed out, that they can’t be reliable, aka they tend to come when we are already winning/leave when things get tough. I would definitely like to see PUG numbers that we had in matchup vs RoS and Arborstone during matchups vs. Dzag, DL or new RoS in the league.

BTW, what guilds exactly moved to RoS? I know about DEX that moved back and VM from UW, heard that NP moved there too, what are the others?

Yes, 2 biggest unknown variables right now are Dzagonur (they didn’t face neither RoF nor DL in a while, it seems that they offended RNG god even more then we did ), so it’s hard to estimate their current strength, and RoS v.3.0, which seems to have attracted a lot of incoming transfers again.

Another factor that might affect outcome are very high populations of PvErs hungry for achievement points, but this can hardly be called a reliable force

Shadowresli.3782:

yeah, it felt a bit like a dialogue between TaG and a few others … Don’t you guys have a Guild Homepage to discuss on??

We do But if we didn’t post here, this thread would be even more dead :/ Too bad that only you and 2 other ppl from DL showed up here (and 1 only to complain about game bug), and noone at all from Blacktide. Reading some forum wars is really entertaining at work I still miss RoF-UW-GH matchup thread :P

Anyway, thank for all the fights throughout the week to the all involved, and see ya in season 1

Shadowresli.3782:

it seems, that TaG plays every BL during an evening, or i’m just paranoid.

Haha, yesterday we visited all 3 indeed Tbh, we rarely have the comfort of not being called to save something in our BL at least 2-3 times per evening :P We tried to push your hills, but got scouted right at the start, props for that. Then we had to go back to defend, because, as usually, PvE patch hit RoF hard…

Also, to Blacktide, are you even trying to defend your borderland? It was really sad to flip all your keeps (including t2 hills, with wall not repaired and left at 50%…) in 20 mins, with like 2 defenders showing up… We even were able to reuse catapults we had at south bay wall to flip it again after you retook it…

In big battles, a lot of healing goes through water fields + blast finishers – that means, that you would need either ele to put these fields or hammer guardian to blast them (guardian adds more support with shouts and virtues on top of that).

styx.7294:

I like the siege blueprints as they are. You can send/receive them to people who need ‘em/people who don’t want them.

As the person, who drops quite a bit of siege, I agree. Although siege prices at TP are too low if you ask me.

Nice to see, that you moved back to RoS, more people to fight in the bronze league
kitten , I miss those close T7 matchups with RoS right before random matchups kicked in.

Sorry!
I was not the one that made the OP but I will ask him to fix it – Italian community is definitely doing good job