Guild Wars 2

Oh this is why. I just got 10 chests in 30 minutes of playing LOL people won’t have the keys to use them all lol.

WTF! black lion chests just went from 3c to 45c and the supply is dropped from 500k to 95k. They going to be used in the upcoming event or something? did the test server come out recently for private beta testers? Some items have shifted really high lately.

The current price of a key when buying with gold is 80 silver, that’s just not worth it.
BTW keys drop from mobs too, i’ve gotten a fair few but they only drop in certain areas.
The whole gem store is now way overpriced. Either way it was overpriced if paying real money too, i dunno they need to look at lotro, best ingame store around.

Nope they removed the anti loot code, you will only hit it if an event bugs out.
The bots were never effected anyway, they don’t kill fast like actual players, that is why they removed the anti bot code as it only effected players.

Oh yeh the bots that get reported and don’t get removed, half the players you see in this game are bots, This game needs community gm’s as they don’t seem to be able to handle all the bot reports.

The actual event stuff will not require anything except items from the event.
However, there will be mystic forge recipe’s that use current game items.
The reason you’re seeing so many items selling right now in items, is the test server for a select few went up and they are buying everything out.
Check the GW spidy trade site and look at the dates, no prize for guessing the date and time the test server went up.

The loot should just go straight into your inv like you know all new mmo’s.
It’s too hard to see loot during big battle and i’d rather people fight then go round looking for the loot, i am more concerned with getting the bag then helping out, they need to change it

If you bothered to read any you’d know you can’t remove the item straight away and relist, the item has to stay on the TP for 1 day before it can be removed.

Dargron.3895:

Out of curiosity, is anyone paying attention to their WvWvW score when using the Mystic Forge in this fashion? One of the WvWvW bonuses is % increase to crafting critical success, which I imagine would have a rather big impact on your results

The wvw buffs only work in wvw don’t they?

They should MASSIVE WEAPONS like anime chars with huge swords.
Even the human weps are too small, they made the big races too dam big.

You should wait unless you need the gold, it’ll be down to about 100 gems for 1g soon.

They need to refund your deposit after 1 day at the very least. I have 70g stuck on the TP because of this crap. The problem is, the mats he used to create the shield could fall and the shields value depends on the crafting mats.
If i unlist and relish it’ll be undercut within 10min, your sale window is so small.
The bots who farm have automated TP selling built in and yeh, it undercuts by 1c, so it doesn’t matter how much much you list it for it’ll be undercut and yeh you can get some cheap stuff doing this It’s risky tho but i’m from aus so mainly just bots on lol.

No i don’t have the npc selected as im fighting at the same time, nor does it select the npc when it happens just checked.
Yeh, another game i played had the loot go straight into the inv, not sure which tho, that would be even better.

You go to loot in a mass event with lots of drops and end up talking an npc 10 times and trying to res some useless npc.
Oh and pickup turrets also on a different button, not that many use those.

Sparkie.3465:

Why don’t you just list the item for the minimum on your range? A range won’t fix this for you – you’ll be undercut by a tiny margin just the same. It’ll end up being a slightly larger tiny margin if people have to play guessing games, so prices will drop even faster than they currently are.

When you play the trade post, you assume some risk in the listing fee. Don’t bet more than you can afford to lose. You’ll have to go for narrower margins on whatever item you’re trying to sell, because from your description it has a greater supply than demand.

It would still be undercut, I’m not talking 10c markets here. You will be undercut no matter what you do.
How do you think bots manage their inventory’s? You don’t think the bot sells to npc do you? You can fill your inv legitimately in 1hr. So bots use the TP and under 1c it’s automated, so no mater what you chose, you will get undercut by the bots by 1c.

The mystic forge was suppose to make junk items useful, Why not allow us to throw 250 stacks of anything in the forge, the least you can buy 250 stack is 5s x 4 = 20s and the prices would increase, i’d say atleast 40s, have 49.5% chance to get a rare 49.5% chance for exotic, the remaining 1% can get you get store items like black lion kits and mini’s and 1000:1 chance of a pre legandary exotic.

OnionXI.6735:

I actually look away during a lot of the bigger dynamic events.

I do too, i also wear sunglasses sometimes.

This is why i laugh when they think this game can become an esport, no it can’t, the spectators need to understand what they’re watching and the spell effects in this game make it one big blur.

Take a look at dota 2, yeh no super flashy BS and specators know exactly what each player is casting and what item they are using.

Spell effects are meant to to give clear information.

BTW try being asura, you can’t see yourself in this game when fighting in a group. It’s so messed up.

Why? You can buy rare for 15s, the odds of green to rare is 20% i just did a few hundred to test, i’m throwing my gold away anyway, i don’t like this economy.

lackofcheese.5617:

There’s more people to compete against, but also more buyers.

Not at all, there’s more sellers then buyers that is why the price of everything is dropping and the supply is increasing.
Most markets are becoming flooded, where there was once 25-100 items listed, there is now 500-1000+ I know because i have a char with an entire inv full of buy items. I use that char and right click every item and buy more as a quick way of buying all my stuff, but a lot of these items have become worthless as the markets are flooded.

There’s no reason not to have a buy and sell range with this type of trading post. The economy is the worst part of this game and anything to improve it should be welcomed.

Yup, it’s not like normal auction houses where a server may have 2-5k people on so not much risk, this thing is for all servers, so you could have upto 250k ppl to compete against, it just doesn’t work.

Is the US and euro TP seperate? if not well that’s even more.

If an item is selling for 1g-1.1g and i put up a sell order or 99s99c-98s(hidden so they can’t see my minimum sell price only the current) i should be first in line for anything between that value, in order to beat me you must have x-97s99c. The 1c undercutting in this system is too harsh when you have expensive items with 1g listing fee. That or make items refund the listing fee after they have been on the trading post for 3 days.

Silverghost.4192:

The current state of legendaries perpetuate the issue we have with so many bots being in game even more. If a player has to get 320+ gold to get their precursor item and they’re making 1-5g per day and the conversion rate on Gems is $10 for 3.5g but a gold seller is offering gold at the rate of $10 for 15g

Nope, $10 = 20g for gold sellers, how do i know? The same gold seller has been spamming lions arch main chat for 2 hours, this game doesn’t have any game masters, they need comunnity game masters and fast.
BTW 25 reports = temp ban for gm to check the player kitten

John Smith.4610:

Out of curiosity, how many feel that a 100% free market would be a good idea?

In spiral knights 25 cents worth of energy = 1 hour of gameplay.
It’s why i believe the gem market will crash to 1g = 40-60 gems.
BTW in spiral knights you were given 100 free energy per day so effectly 25 cents worth(you couldn’t sell it on the exchange) you could craft items with that energy to make money or use it to run dungeons.

The fact is gold sellers are to blame as well as poor game design, right now gems actual value is worth 1g = 40 gems on the black market, $50 from a gold seller buys you 16000 gems, in order for both markets to be equalize gems must fall to 1g=40 gems.

Why poor game design? Simple, the best way to make gold in this game is to farm like a bot. They needed to make dragons, dungeons and very hard dynamic events give the best gold per hour to counter the botting.
The bots and gold sellers are destroying the games economy for legit players.

Have you guys never played a game like this before? This always happens, a game is fresh and new and ppl buy stuff, as time goes on people spend less.
Take a look at spiral knights prices started at 1k money for 100 energy and went upto 6k for 100 energy, they released the game on steam and energy went to 2.5k for 100 energy. The price is now 9k for 100 energy.

Oh btw What do you guys think is going to happen during the upcoming event?
If the gem store costumes are any good everyone will convert gold to gems, will enough buy gems to cover it?

The reason for the gold price change from $1 for 1g to $1 for 2g was simple. They removed DR on drops and the price of gold changed.
http://www.guildwarstrade.com/blackmarket

The HUGE problem with the gem prices is simple, 1 use of black lion kit currently costs a huge 7.6s per use. The gem store stuff is now overpriced.

LOCO.1785:

Well I get more gold running dungeons than farming Orr. I only visit Orr if I need ori, ancient wood or omniberries. The amount of people/bots that farm the crap outta that zone has turned me off to be honest. It’s just a really boring area now for me at least.

which dungeon gets you 2-3g per hour?

The problem is the economy, people lose hope when they see things out of reach, they have pretty much put the carrot in another universe.

Why is the best way to get gold in this game farming like a bot in curse shore? why are the bots selling gold at $1 for 2g when buying gems would only get you $1 for 32 silver.
That is proof they are winning by a mile and proof they have the best means to get gold.

Why do dragons, bosses and dungeons give next to nothing? The best rewards and gold gaining in this game should come from playing the game the way it’s meant to be played. Every dragon kill should give exotic rewards, every dungeon complete should give 1-3. Anything that can’t be botted or teleport hacked should give the best rewards.

Kromica.2831:

Race change would be great to, most Asura I know are mad they chose it once they hit 80.

Yup, the weps are to small, most nords weps are so big they go through the ground yet asura ones don’t so they have scaled them even smaller for asura.

The weps asura carry should grow 4x bigger when they are in use, little guys running round with massive weapons would be great, make them small again when sheathed. The nords are so tall i can’t see their heads when zoomed all the way out on asura, it’s a bit odd how small the zoom range is.

They could make dragons etc give exotics, but the botters can’t bot those and the deal they made would be void, they have to cater to the bots to keep their bribes coming in. It’s obvious one of the devs took a bribe.

Geeo.2154:

raxx.8914:

Did you use level 76+ rare, the patch made it 76+ rares only to get exotics.
If you used level 80 shields 200 at the cheapest would cost you 25g.

And that definalty is not true

Yes it is, 11s at the very cheapest. Using your own mats is still money spent, if you didn’t notice mithril has gone up over double.

Did you use level 76+ rare, the patch made it 76+ rares only to get exotics.
If you used level 80 shields 200 at the cheapest would cost you 25g.

How do you make 200 shields for 8g? Those numbers are actually way off, youtube it next time.

Barfoi.9537:

The rare->exotic chance dropped to 10% (from 20-25%~) for me about a week ago. Some experienced the same drop, but it looks like others are fine, so without precise details from ANet, we’re stuck with “it’s just bad luck”.

Yup what he said(used to be 20% not 25%), if you look on youtube you can see people doing massive numbers 1000’s of forges, check the dates and see it drop from 20% AVG to 10% AVG. The game dev flat out lied when he said nothing changed or someone changed something without telling him, but surely he would simulate 10k and test himself.

This game will fall once dota 2 gets out of beta unless they do something about the economy. Why does the best loot and gold per hour happen where the bots are farming? why does killing dragons and dungeons give next to nothing. Why are the bots allowed to farm for 2 weeks before they get banned. It’s like a deal has been made or something….. This economy best serves bots, exploiters and gold buyers.

If you made them all vets i don’t think it’d stop the bot farming, i was watching the bots and the guardian infront of the train took about 5% dmg tanking the mobs, my thief gets killed by mobs in 8 hits. If they were all vets i would be 3 shot.

The first 2 zones of orr are empty, they should make the entire orr level 80 and all way points free inside it and the chat covers all 3 zones and show all events happening in all 3 zones, as it is right now, i couldn’t bothered with the other 2 zones.

The items right now are all vendor trash anyway, the only stuff selling are things people are throwing into the mystic forge. It also closes the gap between rich and poor.

There was the exploits of ppl mining unlimited oric, that is why it fell, they should have banned them all and gotten rid of the oric they mined.

The distance is too small for a hide and stalk talent, in order to use it you pretty much have to be in visable distance. The downside is if a zerg hits it you warp into a zerg lol. So there is no reason for this useless range and probably why no one uses it.

How many exotics did you get and when did you do it, they seem to have nerfed rare to exotic in general which was a stupid move.

Everything that can’t be botted should have exotic rewards so ppl can then take those exotics and try to forge something, e.g dragons and jumping puzzles and daily and weekly adventure achievements too.
This game seems to cater to bots who make the best money which is weird.

Them not being usable in combat is the reason i have never seen anyone wearing them anywhere, even in town.
Look at other mmo’s like lotro, they have the best cosmetic system ever and make a ton from their cash store, i even brought some cosmetics and don’t normally do that kind of thing. I have not payed for any gems in this game.

The response will be, we don’t want people using them in pvp or wvw, yeh like duh(but you did remove the class icons in a recent patch ?).
You can’t use costumes in lotro pvp either. You can use them in all pve activities.
Even wow let you raid and open world game in cosmetics and potion transformation cosmetics.
Stop being so strict on this issue and fov and so lax on bots. They take more of a stance vs cosmetics and fov then those bloody bots i saw 50 of yesterday.

This has been bugged for too long, is it on purpose? If so, just remove it.

What i find strange is even after you kill them with killing blow when they are downed, they can still be resurrected? There’s no way to gib them.

It’s working now, oh wait no it’s not, i close awesomium.exe which got rid of the constant loading symbol, but now the buy button is greyed out.

I’m now having this problem, i just brought some stuff pre patch and after the patch it’s broken…..

I have seen over 50 of them today and no they don’t ban them, i have seen the same 4 bots pathing the same path for over 1 week at shelter in cursed shore which is extremely high traffic so they would be reporting tons, they are too slow.
25 reports = ban, gm checks the 25 reported player and checks what he did wrong, if 25 ppl from one guild used it to grief someone they all get banned.
They have to do something. This game has no game master presence. you can’t speak to them.

The exploiters actually brought all the dusk and dawn and kept doing so to drive the price up. They had too much money which allowed them to manipulate the market.
The games economy is a mess. They need to increase the drop rate of rares and exotics, the more that are in the economy the more chances ppl have to forge. This in turn drives the prices down.

They need to add critical crafting, critical items would sell, yes there is still chance involved, but anything that is static will make nothing in the long run as everyone can do it too easily. e.g omniberry 30% magic find and 40% gold, critical does 60% magic find and 80% gold, the odds of critical are 10% with another 5% from consumables made by chefs. Check out lotro’s economy, they have criticals and crafting works.

There is so much more gold in the economy now then when the gems were 1g for 300.
Dusk used to cost 90g, it now costs 400g. Do you think some guy who spends $50 on 4k gems at level 80 will sell you 4k gems for 12g? no! 16g is nothing. The low level players who are still leveling are the ones still selling the gems as 16g before level 80 is a good amount of gold to help level, and they are thinning as more and more ppl hit level cap and 16g at level cap is nothing.
The HUGE downside is currently black lion kits cost 5.7s per use, soon it’ll cost 10s per use and ppl will not use them much. They need to lower some of the gem prices. Oh btw entering competitive pvp will cost you about 3-4g per tourny. I’m sure the pvp players will be thrilled.

They made nords way too big, which stuffs everything, even human weps are too small.
It’d look so cool if asura carried around massive weps

It can turn 5v5 into 4v5 and that shouldn’t happen in a game with no hard heals.