Guild Wars 2

nearlight.3064:

I bet that not all of the skills for the ele warhorn will have blowing animations (maybe some, maybe none, but not all) and I bet that it won’t be purely a support weapon.

Obviously. Why just blow into your vuvuzela when you can also wave it around, dance with it, hit people with it, use it as a makeshift telescope, poke holes into doors with it, store candy in it… the possibilities are endless.

I’m so excited now. Wow. So hyped.

Not.

dsslive.8473:

Warhorn has as much potential to be fun as a shield, subjective opinions aside, the fun of a weapon comes from its skills and how its used. Which this one piece of art doesnt really show and will hopefully be shown during the actual reveal. There are some really nice warhorn skins, tho i do agree, from the datamined picture, not a fan of the specific ones the ele’s get from their spec, then against i dont like the look of the chronomancer shield either. (i like the shield revenant supposedly will get for its elite spec much better looking )

Obviously this is a (subjective) question of aesthetics, but personally, I don’t like a single one. Believe me, I’ve looked. Not just recently, but previously, when I was dabbling in the professions that use it. Not even Howler (imo). I hate the animations, I hate the looks, I hate its functionality… yeah. I just completely loathe the thing. I was never able to get into any of the classes that use it, and I guess there’s a reason.
And the teaser has done nothing to change this. The Chronomancer shield is at least visually interesting, and there are many other distinctive options available- you say yourself there’s one you like coming up This lame cream-dressed horn is just… yet another eyesore. It doesn’t matter how you dress it up, visually or skill-wise…. it’s still a horn, it’s still meant for blowing into, which isn’t particularly appealing. Ugh.

This is in addition to the concerns regarding functionality that have been extensively discussed by the community in this and other threads.

dsslive.8473:

Well if i was expecting weapon x instead of weapon y , i’d be bit disappointed too (the burdens of datamining :p). And ye there are many posters that dont like the warhorn and are expressing that , but its a fraction of the playerbase. Most likely they’ll get over it since you’re not forced into the weapon.

Personally i like the warhorn as a weapon and find it very fitiing for a “tempest” spec, but reality is that until i know more about the entire spec i can’t judge whether it will be good or not.

People weren’t excited for mesmer shield either till they saw what it brought.

By that very same logic, the people expressing that they like the idea of the warhorn are only a fraction of the playerbase as well- an even smaller fraction, in fact. So, I don’t see your point with this particular argument.

As for shield- that is again in a totally different league. A shield always had the potential to be fun and interesting (imo). The warhorn, not so much. And the mesmer got an exciting-looking shield in addition to their exciting new skills, just in case there was any doubt. The ele…. well… the warhorn we’re getting doesn’t appear to be breaking any moulds for the weapon. It looks like someone took a horn and squeezed Decoden whipped cream all over it. Is that ugly thing meant to make the warhorn more appealing?
So far, the teaser gives me zero reason to believe this will be good. But, naturally, I reserve full judgment until after all is revealed. I just have little to no hope that anything could compensate for the actual weapon being a warhorn.

dsslive.8473:

the few ppl being unhappy with warhorn do not represent the majority of the community but just a fraction of the forumgoers which is already just a small fraction of the people who play the game?

Seems to me that the negative opinions do outweigh the positive ones- taking into consideration that many of the ‘positive’ voices are still expressing disappointment, but take a ‘well, let’s wait and see’ or ‘maybe this can be good (but I have only meh ideas as to how)’ mentality, rather than outright excitement, which appears to be rare.

edit: formatting

Right. I’ve thought about it, I’ve slept on it… and I’m still completely salty about this.

The thing is, timing. If Anet had decided they wanted to try and make the warhorn cool at the expense of the class they’re using to do so in a future specialization update, then I would have been cool with it. I could’ve justified it as “well, we got something awesome the first time round, I guess we can take one for the team this time. Let the five or so people who for some reason are into the warhorn have their fun now”.
By releasing this as part of the first specialization for the class, it’s just underwhelming, a total hype-killer and deeply frustrating.
Few people want this, and even the ones who do, or bizarrely defend this decision struggle to come up with anything even just remotely appealing.

^ that would apply to any offhand and is not specific to the warhorn. It’s the warhorn, that’s the issue (at least for me).

Orpheal.8263:

I’m kind of interested mostly only so far in what a kind of name abomination this Elite Spec will end up with for the German localized game version … a class specialization named after a weather effect rolleyes

Don’t really know, whats more ridiculous so far ..this name or Dragonhunter.

If it ends up as “Sturmrufer”, then the “joke” will be just perfect …

I’m gonna go ahead and suggest “Mist”. As in “So ein Mist…”

Gaile Gray.6029:

I really encourage y’all to turn into Points of Interest on Friday on our Twitch channel. They’ll be showing the warhorn and skills and all that good stuff, and then you can better get a view of how it works as the Elementalist’s elite specialization.

Oh, don’t worry, we’ll be watching

I just personally don’t see anything that could compensate for the horrid weapon we’re getting. Heck, even if the specialization turned the Ele into some kind of amazing superpowered ball of fire and lightning that just nukes everything, this would still not be okay. No matter how amazing the rest of the specialization might be, it is still a lame warhorn. It’s not even a joke weapon, it’s just… unappealing. Clunky. Boring. And oh my, is it ugly. I do not want a weapon that produces noises like “toot”. “Toot”. No. Just no.

^ was gonna say he forgot necro. But that aside, as he and many have previously brought up: what does the WH add to the ele indeed? Never mind that they are a complete eyesore.

I See No Tomorrow.7302:

I’m just confused as to why precisely warhorn would be worse? We don’t know its skills? Ele could use it entirely differently from other profs? I don’t get why it’s inherently inferior?

To summarize why as concisely as possible: It blows. Or, well… that’s how it’s used anyways.

I See No Tomorrow.7302:

I mean, Chronomancer also got an offhand and the shield skills seem pretty good.

It’s not so much about getting an offhand weapon per se, it’s about said offhand being the warhorn.

Mesmer+Shield is just in a completely different league, in that it always had the potential to be good (imo anyways).

Drayos.8759:

you are just taking a current concept of the sword and Putting it on Ele and thinking AWESOME.

No idea what you’re on about. Find just one instance of me mentioning swords at all in this conversation. Just one. Even just the word sword.
Hint: I’ve not mentioned it a single time, nor have I expressed a preference for it.

RoseofGilead.8907:

I said that the knee-jerk reaction of “They gave ele a warhorn, so I’m not playing ele anymore” is childish. You know nothing about how the elite spec is going to work, and instead of waiting to find out how it’s going to work (and whether or not you’d have to deign to touch a filthy warhorn), you’re just tossing the out the baby with the bathwater.

That still amounts to you trying to tell me how I am to react, which is not your place. If people don’t want to wait for the full reveal to start being annoyed, this is their prerogative.
I dislike this. I have disliked this since the first time it was hinted at. It remains to be seen if the full reveal can change that. Simple as that. Get over it and let people react however they please.

RoseofGilead.8907:

I’m sorry, but that sounds awfully childish. “It’s not what I wanted, so I’m going to choose to not like it regardless of how it works.” Of course people are allowed to feel skeptical or even disappointed (I personally wanted sword, myself). However, the dramatic “Gonna go find a new class to play” reaction is ridiculous without actually knowing the details.

I’m sorry, no one told me I wasn’t allowed to have an opinion. I will reflect on my opinion-having ways.
How dare I feel that I have absolutely no interest in using a warhorn or be angry that it is what we’re stuck with. How dare I say that I would rather spend my free time playing an elite spec I might actually not have to first convince myself to enjoy.. or even (gasp) like better. I’m sorry, but you can’t tell people how they’re meant to feel about something. That is what’s truly childish here.

I’d normally agree that its best to wait until we have more info, but in this case, I feel differently. I am allowed to completely hate a specific weapon- i my case that is the warhorn. And I am also allowed be upset that my class is the one that got stuck with with awful piece of junk.
Fwiw, I had no issues with any of the other specializations, I think Longbow on Guardian and Shield on Mesmer are cool. I just really hate warhorns in every possible way.

I mean sure… they may somehow end up surprising us and this will be awesome. I just really, really doubt that they managed to cook up something that good.

RoseofGilead.8907:

Or you could wait until the reveal of the specialization before dramatically abandoning your ele.

Except I absolutely despise the warhorn and I don’t look forward to looking like a clown blowing into a silly horn in eight different ways. It doesn’t really matter what the details of the specialization are, unless it can function optimally without the weapon, I’m simply not not going to like it.
And even if that somehow magically were the case, a huge part of what I was looking forward to in HoT- a new weapon- has still been ruined for me, directly impacting my enjoyment of the game, so excuse me for being disappointed.

Ahhh, so this is what being punched in the face feels like.

Well, cringe. This will teach me to never preorder anything, ever again. Thanks, Anet. I normally don’t get particularly bothered by things in the same way other people do and don’t have many issues with most decisions Anet makes, but consider me completely and utterly disappointed (angry, upset, you name it) for the first time.

Guess I’ll start looking for a new class, then, so I can have some specialization to enjoy. Meh.

I always just sit on the treb with my buddy and we take turns firing shots at the scenery. We’re contributing, ok.

Lordrosicky.5813:

skullfaerie.7203:

Ummm.. you’re queued for ranked, with preference set to stronghold only. Stronghold is only available in unranked. So, pic says what about Stronghold exactly? xD

Not true. Get your facts right

Yawn.

“We’ll also be opening up our new Player vs. Player game mode, Stronghold, to all players who play in the queue for Unranked PvP over the course of the weekend.”
link

OneKlicKill.4285:

skullfaerie.7203:

Ummm.. you’re queued for ranked, with preference set to stronghold only. Stronghold is only available in unranked. So, pic says what about Stronghold exactly? xD

I was supporting the fact that courtyard needs its own queue

I’m talking about OP’s picture.

edited because awkward word filter.

Ummm.. you’re queued for ranked, with preference set to stronghold only. Stronghold is only available in unranked. So, pic says what about Stronghold exactly? xD

Orpheal.8263:

Black Box.9312:

If ele gets warhorn, I will be severely disappointed if the elite spec is not renamed to “Vuvuzele”.

rofl, remembered me on this ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24KhtP3S4KU

This is the only thing I can ever think of when someone says “Ele might get warhorn”… I can’t think of a way for the warhorn to not be awful and lame, or a joke, so… please no

Khalisto.5780:

even if I had 70% winrate, I’d still have left

Well, matchmaking is pretty bad sometimes…. but in your case.. could this be the real problem? :p

I thought this was going to be about a train your own Moa mini game. With 150 (1) unique types.

The disappointment is real.

Yasssssss!

… now, if only you could get rid of mid air turrets while you’re in there?

OlrunTheBlade.1486:

If you disconnect consistently enough for this to be a problem, it’s not fair for your teammates.

That is all.

No thank you. 5v5 seems about right. If I wanted a zerg, I’d go to wvw

It’s even better when you get parties of 3 or more turret engis, all happily exploiting because they know nothing will be done about it.

SYPHA.9283:

Being rewarded 3 points for a loss because you scored 300 points when you were supposed to lose, seems legit for a LB application.

While there are plenty of legitimate reasons to be disgruntled at the moment, let’s not pull things out of our orifices just to be dramatic.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/finding-the-perfect-match/

That’s nice of support, but tbh, I think you should keep it xD

Gaile Gray.6029:

If someone is having difficulty downloading, consider completely closing the GW2 window and logging back in. If you have part of the download you will not start over, but merely pick up where you left off. I find this is helpful, at times, in getting a download to complete on what is (as I’m sure you can imagine) a very busy day for the servers.

I just tried that. Was stuck at 99%. Now I’m stuck at 0% instead. Not sure if improvement or not

Michael Henninger.7451:

skullfaerie.7203:

Hi,

Posting on behalf of boyfriend who has been experiencing a potential incident of cyberstalking, as the support response has been inadequate.
Revealing of personal information by another user that could not have been acquired in game is a privacy problem. It is also harassment and shows the user has been engaged in some in-depth research. It may look harmless to an unaware GM, but frankly it isn’t.
Ignoring some primitive bad mouthing/false accusations I can understand (although it’s part of cyberstalking behaviour and thus shouldn’t be), ignoring the privacy issue, not so much.

I’d like to see incidents of online stalking taken serious by support, as it is not a trivial matter. Sometimes it’s nothing, other times it can go south pretty fast. The behaviour is at the very least concerning.

In addition to the info he provided, we’ve recently seen his brothers account potentially get compromised (now secured, may be related, may be a coincidence-timing was odd). Happy to discuss the surrounding circumstances in private, for obvious reasons.

Ticket # 1194144

We do take harassment VERY seriously but what the chat shows is two people having an argument over a win/loss situation. This is not, in any form, harassment. If your friend has further details than those provided we’ll look again – but based on this complaint there is nothing to action.

*Edit – word choice /to see/ /action/

Hey, thanks for the reply!
Except that person- who is a complete stranger- is revealing information, specifically the victim’s ethnicity and exact location, down to the city, in map chat.
Pretty sure that isn’t information that just randomly comes up in an argument between two strangers who never spoke before or that a random stranger in a game should even have access to without anything further, am I wrong?

I’ll get him to message you some more specific details, like where we suspect this is originating from, if that’s okay.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

skullfaerie.7203:

Oh god, it’s you again with your terrible attitude .
To answer your question: Yes there is: Go to a daily room. Literally no idea why that isn’t what you’re doing. Goodbye.

Not sure if OP is a massive troll or just extremely narrow minded and selfish…

Has to be a troll A person could not possibly be this ignorant… Is what I choose to believe.
No, you can’t tell me otherwise, I’m delusional, ok. Leave me be >:[

Oh god, it’s you again with your terrible attitude .
To answer your question: Yes there is: Go to a daily room. Literally no idea why that isn’t what you’re doing. Goodbye.

Hi,

Posting on behalf of boyfriend who has been experiencing a potential incident of cyberstalking, as the support response has been inadequate.
Revealing of personal information by another user that could not have been acquired in game is a privacy problem. It is also harassment and shows the user has been engaged in some in-depth research. It may look harmless to an unaware GM, but frankly it isn’t.
Ignoring some primitive bad mouthing/false accusations I can understand (although it’s part of cyberstalking behaviour and thus shouldn’t be), ignoring the privacy issue, not so much.

I’d like to see incidents of online stalking taken serious by support, as it is not a trivial matter. Sometimes it’s nothing, other times it can go south pretty fast. The behaviour is at the very least concerning.

In addition to the info he provided, we’ve recently seen his brothers account potentially get compromised (now secured, may be related, may be a coincidence-timing was odd). Happy to discuss the surrounding circumstances in private, for obvious reasons.

Ticket # 1194144

Hi,

as recently, I’ve been having issues with keys occasionally not responding for various lengths of time, other times it’s fine.
I’ve only noticed it in pvp, and it’s a fairly big problem ^^’

Any idea what the problem could be? Hardware/peripheral or client side?

This is using the mac client on a macbook pro. The machine is new (couple months old), so it’s just a question of locating the problem- if it’s hardware related, that’s alright, its under warranty.

So far, it affects ele attunement swaps bound to s+1,2,3,4 with s+3 and s+4 appearing to be affected the worst.

GhOst.4019:

3rd post in 2 weeks on same subject. Is there a rule for spamming? How do you know they have less than 1k AP? You can’t see that unless you are both friends of each other.

Actually, you only need to add them

Random Weird Guy.3528:

When I watch a person’s stream, it’s to watch someone who has already established a reputation as one of the best players of their class so that I can possibly learn from it. Not some random person in arenas who thinks they’re good.

And that is your prerogative. But where was it written that one has to be of your particular preference/ description to be allowed to stream and look to increase their viewership?

Tbh, it sounds like you just want to stroke your ego and put someone down for no reason. Did it make you feel better?

truthishly.9513:

Justin ODell.9517:

Gabriell.4856:

Anyway to allow us to know our chance of winning before the match starts?

I would like to quit while I’m behind and get it over with as quickly as possible.

For ranked arena during a ladder, we plan to make the information available. I wouldn’t recommend leaving in one of those matches though.

I think it would be best to show it after the match to prevent an epidemic of quitters/afkers/loudmouths. Keep morale up, some people already do a pretty good job of destroying it as soon as something goes wrong.

This. I’d like to know more about how those stats would be implemented, because as it stands, it sounds like a terrible idea.
Even if you “recommend they don’t leave” – many will. Heck, yesterday I had three people quit a match they were winning. For no logically discernible reason.

And those who stay/afk will likely be negatively influenced by the numbers. Most people are that way.

Oh, and fwiw: Solo queue is alright I guess… but if I had to pick, I’d chose the ranked/unranked over the solo/team split. Yey.

For the love of all that is sane…. no. Never. Absolutely not.

Why would you ever want daily class to be restricted to ranked/unranked?

Oh my.

Alright, so what you’re saying is : “Anet, why do you charge me a one time fee for content I missed instead of a monthy sub fee. That would be so much better… even though unlocking all the available content forever, to play whenever I want costs me roughly the same as a measly month of playtime elsewhere!”

How, pray tell, have you reached this wondrous conclusion?

Thank you Gaile! Much appreciated <3

This is the one thing I’d like to have confirmed one way or another as soon as possible… If at all possible

Just because it would be a major bummer if mac users were forced to wait and I’d rather be disappointed now than after reading all about how cool the expansion is going to be, just to hear we can’t play it xD

Noviere.7309:

Will we be getting new game content before the expansion?

This. Assuming a Summer release at the earliest, will there be no content for at least/up to six months?

And if there is new content, how will it work? Festivals? How would that work with the end of S2 :O
“Omg, everyone crashed. … Hey, alright. Lets go bash some piñatas.”

Sweetheart. Look at the convenient and easy to understand graphic Meri posted above. Learn from it. Follow it.
If you can’t do that, here’s an extract from the Rules of Conduct:

“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

Which is what you’ve suggested in multiple places and most likely are actively doing, to the detriment of others. There’s some irony in asking others to be mindful of you, while you plainly disregard their interests.
If it is too much to ask of you to take your shenanigans to hot join, hopefully some nice dev hands you the ban you fully deserve

May I also suggest spellcheck? I don’t know what an “etiquite” is, but going by how you describe it… Ergh, no thanks.

Guardian of Angels.9867:

OP, I actually think it’s awfull this has changed your fun in the game that much.

Though I would like to help you with my opinion on this, I’m a PvE player myself but I do most of my dailies in PvP

- Win as class doesn’t require you to do combat, you just got to win the game (might take a few games but eventually you’ll win one)
- Capture a point, you can walk up to a point where nobody is defending and capture it (I have had this multiple times, as I’m still low rank myself)
- If you’ve got to kill people in PvP, just run along with another team mate of yours. Try to stay by his side all the time, if you hit them and he kills them you’ll also get the credit
- Gain Rank points, I believe if you focus yourself on capture points and then run to the next one – should give you enough rank points in one game to get this

I’ve got no advise for the WvW dailies, maybe someone else got easy tips for you there?

If there’s anything I could help you with, just hit me up in-game I’d love to help you in PvP

This is AWFUL advice. Please don’t do this. -_______- other people are negatively impacted by this sort of rubbish.

As for OP: I don’t see anything wrong with adding some more exploration or simpler dailies for people in your situation, or who don’t enjoy the current dailies.
I don’t mind them, but more options don’t hurt anyone.

uberkingkong.8041:

Quick run down.

> Wall of qq text
(tl;dr)

Amazing that something good came out of this :o Impressed. Good work.

Quint.3765:

Evan Lesh.3295:

http://i.imgur.com/fSV89.gif

pretty childish to post that. i would have atleast expected an update on what is going on and what are the delays for when it will be fixed and why it is bugged. Not a stupid image. It’s funny to see how Anet don’t really care about PvP. When there is a bug in PvE it takes less than 20 mins before you patch something and update everything. Ive had my screen bugged for more than 2 hours with the stupid map selection tab and i can’t do nothing because even if i close my client and re-open it the tab is still there. So please fix it…

Lmao, some people are so tightly wound, it’s hilarious. I interpreted that as a funnier version of “omg, something went wrong, we’re working on it.” – what else do you need to know exactly?

I thought that article was a mean joke ;o; But it was real….

Anet… Cookies? Donuts? Group hug? ;o;

Lol… Why would anyone get banned for pvp’ing in a pvp arena? That’s plain absurd.

Like, seriously. What would the justification be?