Guild Wars 2

So guyz I really need for you to come and fight me tomorrow. I need to show you the power of this build. Please come to Heart of the Mists at around noon tomorrow. I shall be glad to challenge you.

Dude I really dont have a High tech video camera and a youtube account. My parents think I should wait a bit more till I’m older. I really think you are the only one trolling here. Please stop. Let me ask you this. When did you get a high tech camera and youtube account?

Lol dude I know. I was a norn Mesmer for a week. I have tried it out and I know how slow and too big of a toon a norn is. I personally think that you are just saying that because your mentality is (big= hard to click on) trust me it’s not hard to find a big fat norn running around making clones of itself. As for the Challenge, i will be there. anyone who wants to fight me should go the the Heart of the mists at around noon today and everyday during the summer. (Remember, its the 1 vs 1 dueling servers)

Edit: there are around like 3 dueling servers i go to. CHeck the ones at the top of the arena search box.

Probably reason why you said this necro build sucks is because you think that right now necros are only viable for PvE. Remember this. In the near future when Necros get more stun breaker skills, or if I tinker with this build right now, this build will be great. I am sorry if you think I never tested it out. I would deeply enjoy showing this build’s capabilities to you but I dont have a high tech video camera and a youtube account. you are just gonna have to trust me. I am trying my best to improve upon this build everyday and go try it out. Sorry if you think this build sucks.

I have finished the Disorienting Shatter Mesmer build. It is a better, more versatile Mesmer build than any of the other types of shatter builds that are out there in my opinion. I have tested it against multiple opponents in PvP. I will try it in WvW as soon as possible after collecting all the gear.

This build focuses on creating 3 clones right after you use the shatter skill so as to throw the opponent off on your exact position. To achieve this you need perma vigor, with the Vigorous Revelation trait you are able to have constant supply of this boon whether you are in melee or ranged. Also with 3 stealth skills you can certainly keep the pressure on your enemies without having to put yourself in danger too much. this might now sound like much but it is the key to all shatter builds. The flaw in every shatter cat build is the lack of constant Dodges this build is designed to manage that and to be able to perfectly disorient your opponent.
Here’s the build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAsfRlwzKqHTTrGbNJypCJHqHaH49dkKYalUwbXIA-j0yA4OBR6DARIiJvhIm+yaNrIasabM9LqGGRFLIbwLiWtMAMLA-w

If you don’t believe that this build can successfully disorient your opponent, come and fight me in the Heart of the Mists. At around 12:00 at noon I always go to play in the 1 vs 1 dueling servers which are located near the top of the Arena Search box. I can’t tell my character name right now so look me up by my display name. I shall be waiting for you.

Not necessarily, If you are a good mesmer, you can spot any size or race, which I can. Plus if you are a good shatter player, you can totally throw an opponent off

Edit: Guide to my Final version of the Disorient Shatter Build is coming up in the next post.

Hey psygate, if you are cool with this MM build having a lesser crit. damage then I shall make a more survivable build just for you. Only if you are up for it. you don’t have to.

I have finished the mesmer Confusing build will put up a guide soon on it. PLease wait patiently.

First to Hexxen. I appreciate your comments. I know I will immediately edit the post to the top comment. Plus reason I said that the build has the potential to solo camps does not mean I didn’t try it out. I only said it because I thought that if I said that this build is guranteed to solo camps. The community might get mad. It’s all up to the player in the end you know, the build only helps so much.

Second to Psygate. I think that your toughness was too low. if you can post your toughness I shall try to give you advice on how to manage the build. As for the death shroud cd, I didn’t do the cd DS trait because I believe that more DS gaining with the Sould Marks would in the end help majorly. And did you do PvP? because with the 65% less condition duration thing you would have been hard to kill against conditionmancers.

All right man. I appreciate your comments. I shall put all of my builds here for the time’s sake thank you for clearing yourself up with me. and I did test my builds out. I said that in the first post. just wasn’t able to put up a guide. So I am sorry. Will put up a guide soon.

Ok I willl put up a new guide as soon as possible. Sorry was on a vacation and couldn’t reply. But psygate. I have a question to ask you. All i wanted was for you to take a look at my build. A lot of other players also just post their build and ask people to look at it for them and all of this community doesn’t have a problem with it. Why do you only bother me. Please stop. I know i messed up my first post so I made this to try to make it up and start a new. What makes you think that I know nothing about the Necromancer mechanics and think I am just trolling with the whole community? Why do you always criticise me so harshly? And why do you say that I don’t accept criticism? Maybe because you think I have to answer to your mean comments and have to kneel down before you to say how sorry i am of messing everything up. You know that you are making me angry on perpose. Please stop. This goes to all of the community. I know there are lots of genuinely nice people here. But about 90% of the people in this community only care about the people they know and always try to kick a newcomer out. Please quit it I beg you. Like i said. I was only trying to start a new and try to fix all the mistakes I made in the first post and to do better on this thread. Just stop criticising like I’m some kind of mangy dog. please.

OK so here is all of my builds so far. Hope you like it. I have tried it out so don’t worry.

Shackled Diablo: this build when stacked properly with sigil of corruption and blood is power can do up to 2990 power and above 1700 condition damage. It is sort of lacking crit chance at 47%, but it has the crit.damage of 61%. the point of this build is not be a conditionmancer all throughout, but to be able to spam good amounts of damage as you are applying conditions to your foe. 2990 power and 61% critical damage does I think around 500-700 against normal armored foe with your scepter. add to that the 83% bleed duration and 1700 condition damage makes you a fearsome enemy. This build is pretty good in dungeons and even more effective in wvw where you can take camps by yourself and do good aoe in zerg fights.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNArYWjMap7tbeb07JCoCuP6xxCWyoeUO2dOA-j0zAINFNcXApFQUFAqDGBChIAm8CY+DKHqsWNLiGr6GTFHZdsQq9uIa1CBsYMA-w

Minion Master: this build has 42% crit chance and around 76% crit. damage with 2800+ power. With the Bloodlust sigil it can reach 3000 power. I don’t think most of the other MM builds have this kind of firepower in them. this build has 22k health and around 2700+ armor. The point of this build is to do severe damage and heal your minions as soon as possible with the 2 wells you have at your disposal. add to that the staff #2 skill you have the makings of a potential undying minion horde. The downside of this build is that you only have 3 minions: Shadow fiend, bone fiend, and flesh golem. I chose these minions because they happen to be the most useful minions right now. As much as I want the jagged horror minions I would rather prefer the shadow fiend’s 10% extra LF granting skill. This build cannot heal you as much as the normal vampire minion build. Then again what’s the point of getting all those health to yourself if you cannot heal your own minions. This build is not really viable for pve. Only works well in wvw. Just because this is a MM build doesn’t mean it sucks at wvw keep that in mind. I would go solo camps with this build, but I think it can fight off 2 enemys if handled right. It isn’t as good as the Shackled Diablo build but it is a very good MM build. It has 65% less condition uptime on you. So no conditionmancer is gonna down you so quickly. Even though this build has only one source of stun break, it has the potential to gain around 30-40% LF in 10 seconds and is able to do that like every 20 seconds. This means you can go into DS more often and is able to take more direct damage from your enemies due to the fact that you gain almost half your death shroud every few seconds. This build is more focused towards solo roaming.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQUQNAndWjQad61aua07JAJFXT90DuHXcKFlzOA-jUyAYLBRCCARIiJvioxWGLiGr2GT/mUVsgsNvIa1yAwsAA-w

The Power Roaming build this build is designed to use the Full advantage of the Death Shroud mechanic of the Necromancer. Reason I belive necromancers are better suitable for DPS than all the other soldier classes is because it can have around 2500 toughness, around 2900 power, and around 90%+ of crit damage with the 5o%crit. chance. just like any other class, but it has an extra health bar. That being the DS. If you can take full advantage of this then you are almost invincible and perhaps a very formidable DPS dealer. SO i have made a WvW build for the Power necromancer. It is able to reach 50% of the DS in just 10sec. and reapeat that around every 20seconds. this build is good at taking camps by yourself or handling 2-3 people when necessary. Check it out.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQRBIhdu1IjWte1m2G9eCAqQuRPQeZlpeUO8nD-jUyAYrBRTQAoPQEhQn8KiGbZsIas6aMVMRUtBvIa1yAwsAA-w

Bra Pyroatheist ever considered taht you are the one who is entirely ignorant?? I do understand what all of you are saying. Like I am trying even now to incorporate all your suggestions into bettering myself. But the way you seem to act like you are some superior being and I am your servant is what kitten es me off. I bet ya you would be typing next about how I was the one who is ignorant. If you looke at all of you and your friends comments, it is mostly of very mean criticism. Like you are some sort of mesmer god. Jeez man. We are all mesmers here. BTW I have full confidence that I am better than you, or at least equal in my gameplay ability to yours. that is why i was trying to post new builds to try to understand more deeply about the mesmer. All you are doing right now is harshly criticising me and then turning back and telling me that I started it. that is so bull crap. Hope you realize it.

Dude like come on man. You just trolling with me? One of your so called friends said that all Shattercat builds are Osicat’s, so i was just giving my opinion on that idea. BTW I try to be creative first then try to make the build upon that base. I really dont care if at first the build sucks. I am trying to be unique first, then make it better. Of course you guyz would go back to saying that Osicat is the creator and what not. I feel that the only reason you think he is the creator is because he put the name Shattercat for his builds. I am pretty sure 100percent that he wasn’t the first one to use the illusions line to create a shatter mesmer. As much as I have respect for his gameplays and his builds, he is not the Creator of the entire shatter mechanism. that is just absurd and too much of a one way thinking.

Yeah I get you. But Osicat’s Shatter build just incorporates typically the 30 in shatter line a sword/offhand and staff set. So if someone were to devise a new shatter spec then it is his. The thing is people really think that Osicat is the creator of the shattercat build. I really respect him for coming up with the shatter cat builds. That’s the reason why I even have Shattercat as part of my character’s name. But if someone else makes a different version of a shattercat build and somehow makes it viable even though other’s thought it was bad, then that makes that certain person the Creator of that version of the shattercat build. Let me tell you, that anyone could have been the creator of the shattercat build. The people who bought the game when it first came out are definitely more knowledgable and are able to try new things out more quickly then people who aquired the game like 5 months after it’s release. So what I am saying is if most of the people playing the game now had gotten it during its release, it might not have been Osicat who would have been the Creator of the shattercat build, but it might even have been one of you who would be the shattercat creator So I only give credit to Osicat for all of the builds he has right now. Any other version of the shattercat build I will be giving credit to that person alone, not Osicat.

This is my version of the shattercat build. I am gonna keep trying this build for awhile. it really suits my style. Although that is only my thinking.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgQQRAsc8dlwzipXUzpGbNJipCEHqHYH49dkK0alUwbXIA-jUzAYrBRTMAoPQEhQn8SU+LrJwAWxGiWVLsabMNMqKeIyG8ioVLEwoxA-w

I have been thinking last night that shattercat is the only way of brining out the Mesmers’ full power. With the shatter skills disorienting an opponent every time means that you will probably have the upper hand throughout the whole fight. Now I realized that most of the shattercat builds out there are mainhand/offhand and twohanded. I tried thinking of new types of weapons for a shatter cat build, but found the only alternatives to be all one handed weapons. See, if I use 2 twohanded weapons for a shatter cat build, they would be sharing the same cool down and all of the skills would be pretty much useless even after the weapon swap. So I realized that if I were to use Sword/x and Sword/Y, It would be a whole new shatter cat build in itself, for then you would not need the cd on staff trait and have a whole 10 trait points to use somewhere else. I tried this out, but what I am worried about is the way the cooldowns could affect the clone generation. Maybe with a constant supply of clones on dodge trait(by means of fast endurance regen), we can make up for the main hand swords sharing the same cool down. Now the problem arises for the offhand weapons. I know the off hand weapons have to be a low cool down weapons so as to make up for the main hand swords sharing the same cd with each other. But if i happen to choose sword and pistol as the offhands it would be sorta hard to deal with multiple opponents. Because all of the phantasms focus on one target, but if I were to use something like Focus as my offhand, it would be more aoe damage, but the cd would arise as the problem, If I were to have like the torch off hand for stealth, I wouldn’t be able to get the cd trait for torch because I would be spending 30 in shatter line, at least 10 in chaos, 20 in dueling, and the remaining 10 in somewhere else. That remaining 10 line isn’t enough for me to aquire the cd torch trait. So I am wondering what offhand weapon sets I should use as Sword/X Sword/Y shatter cat Mesmer. Now I am gonna be doing this and you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. I would like to see the best possible offhand combinations for this version of a shattercat. All I need is suggestions. That is all. I will post the build within a minute or so.

I thought about this idea for a while. If we, as in all mesmers, somehow really confuse the opponent by utilizing all of our skills to the max i feel that no matter how much dps or tank an enemy can do, or no matter how much stealth or control abilities they can use, it will all be in vain for if we can constantly trick their minds we can indefinitely kill them in one shot pr by wearing them out. I am gonna list all of the types of skills for a mesmer and bring out their pros and cons to somehow make a combination of skills that can totally put a hurting on an enemy.

Glamours
Pros: most of the glamour skills we possess can make it look like we are actually within the area of effect. For instance if I use feedback on a foe the sheer size and wavy bubble animation is enough to make them think even if it’s just for an instant that I am within it. Cons: Some glamour skills are useless in some mesmer builds.

Clones
Pros: clones are a copy of ourselves. it will be the key to confusing our opponent.
Cons: they apparently dont seem to move much if the enemy is close in range.

Shatter skills
Pros: Makes the clones move towards the enemy. Majorly throwing them off. Cons: once out of shatter skills it’s back to square one and you have to try to confuse your enemy from scratch.

Mobility
Pros:It is the way for us to get around an opponent and strike from a different angle every time. Cons: When not using a shatter skill for clone movement, your mobility will make you stand out among your illusions.

Stealth
Pros: it makes you invisible and helps lose your opponents knowledge of your whereabouts. Cons the animation when you get out of stealth reveals to your enemy your location more easily(animation=the smoke rings)

Signets
Pros: It appears on your clones skill fact when your enemy clicks on them and gives them doubts about who could be the real you. Cons: Most of the signets are not of very much use and is sometimes considered as waste of skill box.

Now keeping all of these in mind i will try to pick off the best skills and traits for all of this. I shall soon bring out these skills within a few minutes or so.

When you are roaming you might see a solo roamer as well. You are really like a noob. Does all people roam in groups??

Uh lol. most people here are total opposites. When i make a group build they are like how you gonna fight one on one? then when i make a build that is clearly for one v one you come and say how you gonna deal with groups? Lol do i really have to tell you that a Minion master build is primarily for one v one? are you just joking or are you that thickheaded?

Guyz I really need the feedback on this build right now. Like i tried it out but i feel like it could be improved. Got rid of the siphoning stuff cause even if I have like well of blood and all that it would only heal like 80 per pulse. Sorry if you guyz feel that I’m bumping this threadd too often. It’s just that this build is my inspitration to keep playing the necromancer because It is the first ever dhummfire minion master build in gw2. please, all suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. Thank you for your help.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArYWjEaV71aua07JEpHXD1UNQPcPpBEpKAPA-jkzAYLAkWEpFgkAA6DUyLZpPocoAbVrIas6aMFMqOeIymbMDORUtUAQsGA-w

Hey guyz so i guess the siphoning thing is what is making this build so horrible in wvw. Got rid of it completely. though that it is sorta useless since it isn’t gonna heal much against more dps opponents and all that. I’m still gonna stick with the dhummfire trait just cause then I will be the first person to use the Dhummfire MM build in gw2.( yes I got to test it out and I am slowly playing gw2 again.) Keep in mind this build is a long way from being as close to viable in wvw as possible. I’m open for any feeedbacks but please try to refrain from totally harsh comments. Enjoy and thank you for your time.

Guyz uh i think you looked at my first MM build and not the updated one. lol. I’m not sure I think you guyz missed the Burning Vampire Build and looked at the regen siphon Mm build that i made in the beginning of this thread. So if you missed the BUrning Vampire MM build here it is. I’m only threading right now cause you guyz didn’t seem like you saw the updated one. Cheers and much comments would be appreciated. Again I’m not just bumping this thread cause so that it gets more popularity. I just feel that you didnt see the updated MM build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArYWjEah71aua07JEJFXD1MpgbAHoHun0AiA-jUzAItIi1AoFgkAAKEU+TZNHKIWyiWxLsV4goux0xER1G8ioVLEg51A-w

Guyz i need you guyz to take a look at this build. i truly believe that I can beat any other MM necromancers with this build. It is the start of a new MM necromancer age. Sorry if i sound so stuck up but that’s how much i’m excited about this build. please commentate on this build. Thank you for your time. MUch will be appreciated. Have a nice day.

Guyz I seriously think that this build will be OP soon enough. I need to have all of your opinion on this build so I can tinker with it more if i have to. Plz take a look. Much will be appreciated. thank you for your time.

i understand completely, you guyz are right. But i truly believe that this build will come through. Like so what if i dont have the 20% extra burst for mindwrack. Osicat’s msit build doesn’t have that either and he is cool. Maybe i need to mess with it more. BUt i believe it can do better. Thank you for your comments though. I really need more feedbacks. Thank you again and keep commenting

Hello guys this is Garfield Shattercat. Some of you may know me from the many dueling server visits during my gameplay time. I can’t play much these days and i decided to make a Shattercat build that I made myself originally and post a guide of it here. This might be long reading but please do read all of the information. So here it is:

For shatter cat mesmers there is only 2 downsides.

1. Once all your shatter skills run out and you can’t stealth or teleport you are easily targetted by others and if they happen to spam conditions on you, you are at their mercy(even in 1 vs 1 situations)

2. If your enemies just kill all your clones as you’re making them it also targets you and makes you severely vunerable.( This would be even further of a problem if you ran out of shatter, stealth, or teleport.)

So in order to fix this problem i made a build that would make sure that you are able to keep having the advantage even if you run out of clones, shatter, or stealth/teleport.

To fix the above problems you must have a good source of condition to keep pressuring them at all times, since if you happen to use all of your skills only your conditions will let you still have a chance to fight back with renewed strength. You must also have a good source of stealth so that when you’re stealth is on you can take full advantage of it and confuse your opponent more than ever. Keeping this in mind i made a Shatter build that i think is very effective for 1 vs X situtions, etc.

Here’s the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsfWlwzKqHTTsGbNJipCBHqHYH49dkKUalUwbXIA-jUyAIMBRKCEZBgIAm8KiGb1sIasqbMVMRUtNvIa1SBAxaA-w

P.S. Since most of this build’s conditions come from the clones on kill thing( cripple and random conditions) it is essential that when you run out of shatter,stealth,or teleport you create as many clones as you can and dodge/dive into your clones so that your enemey try to hit you and end up killing your clones and gaining those awesome conditions.

All suggestions will be gladly accepted and appreciated. Keep commenting and have fun with my original build! If you guyz can also tell me if you have seen this build somewhere before please tell me. Cause I am near 100% sure that this is the first build of it’s kind. I would really love to be the Creator of this version of the shattercat build. Much would be obliged. Thank you for your time.

After hearing all your ideas i realized that the regen thing isn’t gonna work. thank you for making me realize that. I decided to drop the whole regen thing and add dhummfire to it. It is now the Burning Vampire Minion Master build. I would greatly appreciate all your analyses. thank you for your time.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArYWjEa961aua07JEJFXD1MpgbAHoHun0AiA-jUzAItIi1AoFgkAAKEU+TZNHKIWyiWxLsV4goux0xER1G8ioVLEg51A-w

Guyz if you ever saw another build similar to this please tell me. I really want to be the first person to make the Burning Vampire MM build. Like be the creator of this build. Sorry if i sound noobish on this matter but I really want to be the first one to make this build.

Thank you guyz. I have a question. At gw2skill.net why cant i find the exquisite jewels upgrade for the accessories?? I can only find the infusions. If anyone of you can answer this question much would be obliged.

Okay thank you for your kind feedbacks guys. But i still can’t play gw2 right now. The reason being that I experienced some technical difficulties a few days ago. So all i can do now is do some theory crafting and post them on here. So i have taken into account that you guyz have great ideas and i am putting the newest build on this post. The credit goes to all you guyz. Thanks for your help. Enjoy

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArdWjEa961aua07JApHXT90TP4G8whKkLA-jEzAIOBRaBA1BkCBlDDYecRr1twWOHimeWIVdjpjjsBvIa1CBYeNA-w

Sorry i deleted the build. Realized it was dead useless to everyone since mosst people use the build anyways and have their own version or the version from some other thread or youtube video. However I am currently working on a MM build that is quite fascinating. More fascinating than the Hybrid build taht i made i hope. Check it out.

I dont expect this build to be able to kill someone. But worth a try. Made it for wvw purposes. Trying to make a PvP build of it or something at the moment too. Enjoy and keep commenting!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAodWjEa961aua07JApHXTd0TP8GcuhKkLA-j0yAIOBRCDAFKi5Pl18ogYdLslzhopnFkV3YK4kawLiWtQAmXAA-w

Ok guyz plz look at my build i just updated it. thats all i ask. just look at it plz.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNAnYWjMaF7tbKb8bKAJFX/MUhejKcM1jyZHdA-jUzAINioRqDG5BgAlIiAYyTZM/JoW1KiGr2GTDjoiFk1xo28ioVLFAELAA-w

GUyz this is urgent i want you to look at my wvw build i just made and I’m trying to make a best 1 vs X build for a necro right now that can beat 3-5 players. Please take a look and comment some stuff that i can definitely improve. PLeasee i need your help.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNAnYWjMaF7tbib8bKAJFX/MUhejKcM1jyZ/cA-jkzAINioRqDG5BgAlIiAYyTZMHKoWxCblMIFzopuxUxw64hoazLiWtUAQsGA-w

If you guyz see a fault or somethin or if you guyz can add onto this build to make it better plz tell me in the comments. i really need the help from all my fellow necros to make sure that we have a 1 vs X build dat is viable in wvw.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNAnYWjMaF7tbib8bKAJFX/MUhejKcM1jyZ/cA-jkzAINioRqDG5BgAlIiAYyTZMHKoWxCblMIFzopuxUxw64hoazLiWtUAQsGA-w

Lol i got ya sorry for painful postin first time ever. plz forgive my not understanding perspective hehe. we cool?? ps. Soryy asche

This is the updated version of my build for all you non haterz to see. it has lesser toughness but more survivability i assume. the elite skill is up to you . just though that it would come in handy when your crowded.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQEQNAnYWlMaK22uRcDfNFgkirfGqQvRFOm6R5sfOA-jkzAINioRqDG5BgAlIiAYyTZMHKoWxCblMIFzopuxUxw64hoazLiWtUAQsGA-w

Plz look and see if it resembles any other build you guyz saw. if it does tell me in the comments so i can redo from scratch lol.

So guyz, […]u guyz are arguing because i dont really read all yo comments lol… […] lawl. […] sucks balls […] lol […] bein dat when u see like 3-5 peeps ahead of you do dis steps. […] #doomsday

Leave now, and never come back.

Lol Asche seriously?? you must be like the king of trolls or somethin to do dat<< or more likely, the king of skinny goblins. i would love to 1 vs 1 you in wvw where i will own u and your stupid goblin gimmicks. Bra you dont have to troll to a person who’s postin for the first time. I guess you have some really bad memories no doubt. Anyways keep the hatin bra cause I’m gonna make the best necro 1 vs X build no matter what. stay cool.