Guild Wars 2

So I have gotten to the point with this game where I played all the classes extensively. And quite frankly not one of them suits my taste anymore in terms of class mechanics. So what I want to focus now is mobility. I just want to know which class has the best mobility in the game. Please. I need like a DEFINITE answer. I just don’t know what class to make these days anymore.

HEAR HEAR. ANET! U STILL HAVE TIME LEFT. PLEASE. LYSSA WAS THE SAVING GRACE FOR LOTS OF PVP CLASSES. DONT RUIN IT! PLEASEEEEEE…

DONT TAKE THEM AWAY. PLEASE KEEP THEM SAME AS NOWWW.

Edit at least let us have increased boon duration for boons changed from 5 condis,

Alright, so around 3 a.m. this morning, I saw on the GW2 official youtube channel the additional buffs and fixes being confirmed.

Here’s the link to prove it.

http://tinyurl.com/2v8tyyo

@Hircane: It all depends on the way your asura looks. If they look ugly, then 3 more monsters are a nightmare. However, if they are cute and clumsy, 3 more is like triple the awesomeness

for Example, 2 simple changes to deceptive evasion and suddenly Mesmer becomes Mesmerizing.

When you dodge, you create 2 clones instead of the one clone we get right now.
To make this not OP, we could make it so that it does not have any effect on clone on death and shatter skills. so for example, if I had 3 clones up and i used the deceptive evasion, I would not be getting 2 clone deaths nor 2 additional clones for a 5 clone shatter combo. The clones will be replaced bye 2 new clones but so that it does not have effect on power of certain traits and mechanics. Of course there are more complicated situations that arises of having to balance out clone on death and shatter mechanics if this is implemented, but im sure Anet can pull it off. Im sure about that.

When you have deceptive evasion, your clones that appear also do a dodge animation as they appear. This would help if maybe you just got out of stealth and your enemy does not have a target on you. It would confuse your enemies greatly.

Just some minor changes. It would give more awesomeness to Mesmer which I think could use a little bit now.

Please Anet! The reason why I became a Mesmer was because I wanted to blow enemies’ minds. The fact that I can’t do that except only when I stealth and use Blink/Portal is disheartening. i want more skills that can somehow trick the opponent into disarray. Maybe its a bit hard to achieve that or maybe it will make us OP. just please try and give us Mesmerizing skills instead of the common blink/stealth that some classes already have. Deceptive evasion and Shattering are not nearly enough to become the center or our Mesmer Mechanics. PLease?

I do realize of combos such as ileap , then stealth, and then finish leap combo a few seconds later or do some other stuff with it, but it isn’t enough in my eyes.

I’m sorry fellow engineers. Somehow my engineer managed to be not cute. (Don’t know how that was possible haha.) Lolz I might try ranger now. Any tips for what type of armor I should get?

As of now I am an Asura Thief. I love the traditional/classical feel of the art of stealth and infiltration, and also love the fact that a tiny creature is able to do this. So awesome

Yeah, hope Arena Net gives more thoughts into this. Maybe give us kits that reflect the abilities of Scarlet’s technology.

Yeah I made my decision. I will have to choose the Male Asura Engineer.

They are so floppy and the idea of little floppy creatures hurdling bombs and jumping with rocket boots seem pretty cute.

Also I think of the Engineer as the most trollish class. I love that about them.. Hehe

So thanks for all the responses! Keep commenting if you want to prove otherwise!

I want to shed some light on this topic for you.I am guessing you must want to play condition spec?

Then go with Pistol/Shield, as they provides best way to counter and gives additional survivability. More times than not, having just a shield does not make up for loss of Tool Kit. Not only does Toolkit gives you survivability, which is essential for solo roaming, it is also a battle engager. Pull and Prybar is awesome. As a solo roamer, you should be the one to start the fight, not your opponent. secondly, I get that you want ranged weapons, but as an engineer, there are certain situations when you actually need that extra stealth. smoke field takes care of that. For instance, if you were to be caught up by more than one opponent, it is really hard to shake them off with grenades than with Bombs. Smoke field with Shield number 4 knockback is an easy 2 second of stealth. It seems minor, but since an Engineer has perma swiftness, the distance covered is well worth it. Thirdly, Elixir gun should be the last slot. Not only does it provide decent healing, it is a gap closer, which is much needed in 1 vs X fights. So I am not sure if I helped you. But here is my opinion. Hope you consider it.

“You gonna bring another profession to kill me? Just give me a moment, I’m gonna call Koroshi, Yishis, and Wolfineer. (Snickers).”- Tiny Theof Trololol

Dear Gasmic. Do you think I could join? I have been playing Ele for wvw over the past month, and have used all my time trying to get glories to level up, so I have really a lot of hours in tpvp. I also have Teamspeak, but will not be talking on it, just listening and responding by typing really fast.

for the past week I have been running a D/F build, which at one point in time, actually withstood a necromancer, another elementalist, and another Mesmer and managed to down a player before a thief jumped in and decided to go all Heartseeker on me.

I can only play on weekends, and if this is a good time, please message me ingame.

Wow, amazing picture. It looks pretty darn epic to me. This is what I mean when we say that Engineer is the place where relaxed people go to. Like reaching Enlightenment. You know when to be serious, but the rest of the time you are easy-going, friendly, and ready for anything that comes at you. Love the atmosphere and attitude everyone brings to the table. Keep them coming. Keep the spirit strong.

Hello, I go by the name Menace in the forums, and I would like to say that you guys have actually been the most outgoing class forums in my own opinion from the moment I logged into the forums that first day. The other classes seem a little too boring at the moment, and/or are busy whacking each other with the nerf hammer and trying to buff their class. I personally don’t really like that kind of posts (yes, I don’t like buffs, too, I much more enjoy getting little surprises from Arenanet nowadays). The way you guys talk however, seem MUCH more relaxed and willing to help people I think. And you give me lots of smiles quite often. I have never visited the Engineer forum to leave a comment, and I think this thread is a nice time to post something of my own opinion. Keep this thread alive, and I hope that maybe the Devs will put this into the sticky. Just a small suggestion for all the little things Engineer forums have provided me now and then. Keep the spirit alive!

I understand your PoV, but I really want people to get specific, not general. there are so many of these little creatures running around, and I want to know which class looks cutest on them.

Regarding

Armors
Weapons
Actions
Overall theme
etc…

Asura Warrior

Asura Mesmer

Asura Guardian

Asura Engineer

Asura Thief

Asura Ranger

Asura Necromancer

Asura Elementalist

please give strong claim to back your side. I really want some help choosing

with iDuelist, you know where that phantasm is going to be at throughout the whole fight, so you can keep a mental clock in your head of when the attacks will start. with the iSwordsman, it can be considered as just one of the swordsman clones, where it just runs around your opponent like crazy, and from my experience, my opponents can’t dodge the iswordsman if i put good offensive by myself, not the clones, so their attention is focused on me, and when they do dodge, its because of luck almost half the time, as in they are dodging my attacks, but then end up also evading my swordsman. also, with the Block with the sword, it’s not just about retaliation and using it as an offensive. It’s also meant solely for that 1 block. In wvw, against full geared opponents, that 1 block is negating almost 500-2000 damage. Its quite a good game changer.

I would go with sword, because Pistol has a lot of cons over the pros in my opinion

Pistol Pros:

2 second stun
Awesome bleeds
ranged phantasm

Pistol Cons
At least 4 bullets out of 8 bullets by the phantasm can be canceled out with 1 dodge
Stun pistol number 5 can also be canceled out with stun break and a dodge or aegis.

Dear EnderzShadow. I have already learned my lesson of the thing as there is no ownership of builds I have already learned that by now. I am not entirely sure where you got the idea of me trying to make my build the best. I have only stated what you can get out of by playing this build. Of Course it sounds a bit head on, by me stating i can beat both Blackwater and Osicat’s build with this build. But that is the only way I can just bluntly state that and not have to continue talking specifically about what this build can do and its weaknesses. I personally think it is better for me to quickly state this build’s potential and move away. I have only highlighted the best this build can achieve in that short phrase. Also, I just wanted to prepare myself to enter this build into the next BotM Contest. I mean, i hope you understand. I have kind of wanted to submit this build for a little while now, and I guess it was just my nervousness of the chance that someone else might unknowingly submit it. I guess it wasn’t right for me to jump out and block the OP from doing what he wants with the build. Sorry guys.

guys, ok, so I have been snooping around all of the parts of our forums, and almost every thread I see goes about sidetracking into the typical sense:

Devs! You are a failure!

This is almost too stupid of a thing for me to comprehend. I am guessing those of you who stay in GW2 even after saying those things like something about the game right? Then act like you are appreciative and nothing more. If you think about the entire forums as a giant home where we are relatives of each other, it is almost like half of us are kindergardeners, while the next 25% of us are actually appreciative people, and the next 25% are just major trolls. So here’s what I am saying. It seems more and more like Gw2 is going to become a chaotic place in the future for the forums. The forums are where we get in contact with each other the easiest, and where brilliant ideas can be used.

I feel like this forum will actually get dirty if it continues to become a topic place of arguing against the devs.

@Players. If you are going to argue, do talk in a mannered voice, and give strong but calm reasons to back yourselves up. And don’t start a rant about something which can be addressed calmly.

@Devs. If you do something that might anger or confuse the players, give us a reason of why you did it. It doesn’t take much to start a thread and tell us what’s going on on the other side in terms of trying to manage the forums. If there is a policy at the other side which limits your contact with us as players by 80% or more, then that is no game. It’s just downright sad to see in the nicest way possible.

So my proposal. Maybe we should really have a chat get together maybe every month to see how we are doing on things, and what each of us(players and devs) have to propose to the community. Of course, this does not mean you devs have to come to this sort of chat with the nervous mind of being forced to share developments secrets. It just could be a way to talk to each other friendly. That, in my own opinion, is the path to success and happiness for both sides. I am being dead serious on this matter.

Dear OP. This build happens to be same as my Apex Predator build. I am not sure if you have already viewed my build or something. Just letting you know I was planning to put this build into the Next BotM contest. So I hope you will not submit it.

Sorry for being a little bit head on, but I am kind of not sure how to address my speech as of the moment. I actually wanted to submit this build into the contest.

So, since I have already played this build for like almost 5 months now, I can gladly say it has the potential to overcome Pistol attacks and Staff enemies. I have beaten the Blackwater Build with this one and have proceeded to beat the Osicat’s condition cat build, too. They are both amazing builds, so it was an honor to be able to duel them.

This is kitten awesome. Even Osicat has joined us, which is quite a good thing. I hope more people will join us. Guys, before we actually launch this contest, you guys wanna meet someday and hold build testing/dueling in our arena, where we can hone our skills?

Note: This will of course not affect your status in the actual contest when that comes.

Guys, I know might be interfering and everything, but could you guys somehow tone down the voices or stop fighting all together? BotM is in like 9 days or something, and I wish people start that contest and put all of the bad things behind them.

@Chaos. Listen. A Lot of people here in this thread and in this Mesmer forum I bet agree with you a lot, they just don’t want to agree with you and even want to argue with you because you come on somewhat like a truck, which is fine, since you are very passionate on that matter. I personally agree with you, but I guess it’s up to the people’s own opinions to agree with you or not.

@everyone else. I understand maybe Chaos is coming on a little too strong and passionate, but maybe it is just because he wants to make sure other builds in this contest will get more playing time and not get rejected just because they rely a bit more on skill cap. I personally think that if we were to promote tough builds to play, we can somehow evolve as a Mesmer community.

so guys, try to settle out everything in the next 5 posts or so, it will be a huge accomplishment in itself that you guys were able to come together

I know a lot of players in this game, including the devs, want to see an increase in build diversity. I know you will probably not add another like 10 trait points for us to be able to use, but the least you can do is add 1 more utility skill slot. That’s it. Just one more. It will make others want to approach into the unknown and try build combinations that synergizes well with the utilities.

So Aside from all of the arguments happening in this thread(which is totally legit i mean I understand where all of you are getting your opinions from), let’s promise as a Mesmer Community that we will make sure all builds are equally given the chance to shine. I mean every one of these builds that will be on the contest, whether they have 10 views, or even 100,000,000,000 views. If they happen to have a higher skill cap, well, all the more reason to delve into it deeply and bring out the best of the build. Plz promise me that Mesmer Community. I really really truly hope you guys take my words to heart.

#DecemberBotM

So guys,… umm. I think I understand what you are all trying to say here. I mean, I know that you have to be somewhat skilled in this game if you are to play certain classes, and I think Mesmer implies that in some ways. I also get that you guys want a build to be challenging/easy for players of all types. So I think the best build like that right now in this forum besides the Blackwater Build is the Maximised Hybrid build. I definitely acknowledge that that build is good, but what about some of the other builds listed here? Some of them are harder to play in many ways, and I was wondering if it’s gonna affect the contest. I mean, I could really care less about the rewards in this contest or any of that kinda stuff. I just want people to enjoy my build and have some fun with it, but you see, I have noticed that some builds take more skills than others, So just a heads up to you guys, I think that other builds besides my build should be given a second or third look at just because they are hard to play. I just want people to enjoy the builds listed on here, and not worry too much about the gems in store for the winners.

Listen guys. I know there are a lot of good builds out there, such as the Maximized Hybrid for example. But let me tell you this. There will probably be more builds in this contest than few months agos’. So if you are to actually vote for a build. Plz try to test it for 1 hour or more of nonstop playing. Builds like Ross’ has builds with too much creative juice too not try it out. So before you become careless and just vote for one you have tried, give other builds a chance. Ima probably try the shatterlock or something. First time playing Lockdown.

themenaceofseventhdimension

(Mesmer/Apex Predator)

@Guardian. I think you DID hit the spot. I liked this the moment I saw it no joke. Why? Because it is so simple, yet very delicate, detailed, mysterious, subtle, and Mesmerizing all combined into one. I feel like you have created a look that says THIEF, but has this aura of being a MESMER. I feel like you are the best out of the last 5+ pages in my opinion.

Oh man, this build actually looks even more beautiful. (No jk at all) This is the way that people should follow more. A build that incorporates almost everything. There is a new age of builds coming, one that has almost everything in a setup of traitline.

I was also planning to do this sort of thing about a month ago. I am continuing to update it.

Um.. reason I think not much of warden in this state. It is not very useful in a situation in wvw where half the time your opponent is thinking of ways to kite and use his/her surroundings. Unless you have something like crippling dissipation equipped, i fail to see how you would make the most out of it. I love iwarden myself, especially if it is traited, but I think it could be a bit better than depending on like extra skills to make it’s attacks/reflects land and having another extra trait in another extra traitline to make it’s success somewhat better.

Actually, it is false when you guys say that you have constantly appreciated iWarden in 1 vs 1. the only message i’m getting from this statement is the idea that you guys do too much of 1 vs 1 in tight pvp arenas. In WvW, there are usually more kiting than stayin still, so I fail to see how you would constantly duck behind a iWarden if you are trying to chase/defeat an enemy.

As for Freedan. Your idea is brilliant. I just hope they make it so that the iwarden actually catches up to an enemy instead of trying to chase like 2 seconds after the opponent decides to run.

But think about it. When have you actually really been able to effectively use iwarden besides in Zerg fights and by help of something like crippling dissipation? It needs control options to be of any use when used for fightin 1 vs 1.

but the thing is, around 80% of the time, people did not have those skills up, or were in a more dangerous situation and had to spend other skills instead of paying attention to it. that’s what a Phantasm is all about. It’s supposed to give a sense of relief to us because it does a lot of damage work for us, but if we have to go through like 5 skills to make one phantasm become useful, then there is no need for the warden to even deal out damage.

The only problem people had of the phantasm was this: It was pretty ok when attackin a group of people that were piled in a radius of like 240, but when it came to casting on a single enemy, it became useless. So either give it the ability to dish out faster and stronger damage, or make it so that it somehow traps the chosen enemy for a period of time to make it useful. The enemy can always escape tho.

So how do you suppose Anet should fix iWarden? It’s only chance of actually being fixed is give it some sort of AoE Control options. If you give it the ability to chase targets, it becomes totally useless. then it will die in zerg fights as always, and it might somehow interrupt itself during the use of attack skill as some sort of bug.

the least Anet could do is give the initial AoE Immobilize tho. Would be actually make it worth while

Anet Read this Thread!

Here’s how you fix the iWarden Phantasm. simple as one two three.

1. Moment it casts, it gives AoE Immobilize.

2. Every time it starts a new attack cycle, it pulls enemies towards its range. Much like the curtain pull. (Disregarding first initial attack cycle)

3. From the point after the first initial casting immobilize, it provides cripple to enemies who touch it.

Plz do this thang!

Alright, let me give you guys my point of view on this. I have dueled against this build quite a bit, with WitchKing as my duel opponent(he is very skilled btw), using my Apex Predator build. Anyways, I was able to beat BlackDevil’s build quite a bunch of times, and same him with my build around 50% chance of win/lose ratio between him and my build when I fought…After I equipped Sig. of Illusions, I was able to win more often. This just shows you the capabilities of BlackDevil’s AoE pumpout with Berserker. So after analysis, i came to conclusion that BlackDevil’s build would not have beaten me had he used torch. Why? sure it gives a bit more stealth, but the pistol bleeds is unmatched. Plus the stun on pistol is devastating too. Also, if you try to fight a tankier opponent with sword/torch, I am sure it would take 3 times the normal time it would take with the pistol to beat him. All in all, what I am saying is both GS sword/Pistol and GS sword/torch are good at 1 vs X, but when it comes to 1 vs 1, GS and Sword/Pistol triumphs, which means GS and Sword/Pistol is much more advantageous. This is just my opinion.

Oh man, always so awesome to see you Osicat. Mind if I ask what Graphic Card you have on your computer? This is totally irrelevant but I want to know how you look so amazing in all your videos. lol

Yeah, was talking about both of them. However, I, too am interested in their choice of how to change Scepter. If they make it so that it’s more durable in 1 vs X fights, then I shall keep it. I mean, the weapon focuses on just 1 vs 1, and crumbles when hit by AoE pressure.

Taldren, i have ran the same weapons setup. Listen, this weapons setup is only good for 2 things.

1 vs 1 and small group roaming. It has 0 ability to take on more than 1 person, and dies under Ranged Pressure. If the enemy gets an immobilize off of you, your good as dead. Why do I even say this? because I have played it for 3 months.

Then again, you can still play with it.

Why do we need another MH weapon? because it creates Build diversity. People keep taking at least 1 TWo handed weapon because it provides them good survivability when facin more than 2 or 3 people. Now, what does Scepter do? 1 on 1. That’s it. That means once you switch to Scepter, you are more prone to being assaulted by your enemies.

So if we are going to have a MH pistol, let the skills be this

1. Auto Attack

3rd auto attack has ricochets to another target. 50% chance to ricochet to third target.
the third auto attack and all the ricochets inflict blind.

2. #2 skill
Fire a slow moving orb that when explode on impact, deals AoE Confusion, and create a cloud of butterflies that relflects projectiles

3. #3 Skill
Fire at the ground, create a very small empty void of stealth, and disappear for 2 seconds. Does AoE Damage.

So what I am saying is we should be able to obtain another Ranged MH weapon that provides stealth and some AoE capabilities. Then I feel like there won’t be any complaints for a while, and there will be *Soo MUch more builds*

Holy mother…… I am speechless. I actually do not really want a Rifle tho. Some MH weapon or OH weapon for me. Will be interesting to see what skills will come up with this if it becomes a Mesmer weapon. Thanks for postin Eliesume.

would you mind telling me those runes? All these new skills updates are sort of overwhelming. I have never even heard of anti toxin spray until like 1 week after….

Alright, I have other things I want besides Swiftness, too.

As you guys have kindly listed them out…

1. Another Source of Bleeding ranged Weapon besides offhand pistol. Maybe addition of bleed to Scepter or even a new ranged bleed weapon(MH pistol anyone?)

2. A good source of constant AoE damage pumpout. maybe even 1/6 of the capabilities of a Necro, but I wouldn’t care. As long as it is aoe and sustained. I feel like Debilitating Dissipation seems too random

3. I also hope they increase the bleed pump chance out in Debilitating Dissipation….

If this idea is a terrible idea, then I guess you must be trollin. I usually don’t say this to other people, since I know how much I have been told like that in the past, but if this idea of adding Swiftness to the Mesmer without use of Runes or Signets are bad, well, just hope you feel glad if a patch comes that gives us real swiftness, and not some 25% or 30% that seems very situational. Again, I hope you have success in the game and forums from this point on, but I wish you would stop commenting like that.

I am not asking for a MH Pistol, or a portal distance tracker, nor a mini Pyroatheist. All I am askin is some sort of sustained ability to catch up to enemies. We all have different opinions on the immediate neediness of this boon, but we can all agree on the fact that it annoys the heck out of us. A lot of other classes say we are OP at dueling, but this is not the case in WvW. Unless you can burst an opponent Super Fast in the beginning, at the cost of Armor, you are not able to take away their ability to run away. I know it seems like I am whining and such, but I just want people to come up with creative ideas to include Swiftness other than way of Signets or Runes.

Listen, I don’t really understand why people are still whining over this. I really don’t. The first post I had made about this topic was addressed as such: I do not want to offend BlackDevil or anyone else I was just giving my side of opinion and how it seems very strange that Xelnock was not mentioned. Maybe you guys forgot him, but I decided to give partial credit to him. Then you guys seemingly jumped in and said oh it’s not about property and such. Yes it is. Admit it. If I unintentianally made a build very similar to yours, you would go on saying it is a carbon-copy of your build. You have said that quite a lot in the forums, and I was just addressing as carefully as possible that Xelnock needs some partial credit, as the way I see it, the new build was in a way a variation of the build. I just want people to remember that there was someone else who also gave the same dedication to that build. That being Xelnock. I really don’t want to continue talking about this any more.