Guild Wars 2

Personal stats have nothing to do with your ranking

I’ve been getting many more lag spikes over the last 2 weeks personally. It’ll be fine then suddenly 800 ping.

Wolfey.3407:

uhohhotdog.3598:

Wolfey.3407:

rchu.8945:

abc.5790:

Anet loves:
-eles
-guards
-mesmers

Anet is neutral towards:
-thieves
-warriors

Anet hates:
-necros
-engies
-rangers

lol, Anet hated Mesmers for the first 2 years, what are you talking about?

o.O Mesmer has had the short end of the straw since GW1….

Chronomancer is not something to shrug off though.

What? Mesmers were always good in gw1 pvp. It was in pve where they sucked badly because they had little to no aoe damage.

Can you reference where I was talking strictly about PvP?

This is the pvp forum. Why would you be talking about anything else?

Wolfey.3407:

rchu.8945:

abc.5790:

Anet loves:
-eles
-guards
-mesmers

Anet is neutral towards:
-thieves
-warriors

Anet hates:
-necros
-engies
-rangers

lol, Anet hated Mesmers for the first 2 years, what are you talking about?

o.O Mesmer has had the short end of the straw since GW1….

Chronomancer is not something to shrug off though.

What? Mesmers were always good in gw1 pvp. It was in pve where they sucked badly because they had little to no aoe damage.

Just look at metabattle.com and you’ll see what’s meta

I think it’s happening soon. The other day while exploring I saw candy corn mining nodes pop in and out of existence. Looks like they’re preparing for it.

We need Cantha with alliance battles. And Fort Aspenwood.

Most the time they will give you a refund if the purchase was recent.

Make it like gw1 where you had to have comfort animal equipped to have a pet active.

I don’t even think there should be a pet swap in pvp. If your pet dies you wait.

I think small changes every other week is better, Instead of these huge changes every other month or 4.

For instance they could take a single stack of burning from a skill and see how that plays out. If it’s not enough then you make another change here or there in a couple more weeks. Or for an underpowered skill you buff up a number here or there slightly and see how it goes. If it still feels off adjust it a bit more later.

Constant small changes will keep it better balanced and more interesting. Not so stagnant.

I vote to remove it from pvp. Or change how it works so that it just redirects damage temporarily.

It would also be nice if killing the ranger pet had a significant impact on the ranger. Nope just swap pets. No biggie. Should daze or stun the ranger when it dies.

Are you guys using this for pve or pvp? If it’s pvp I don’t see a need for the toughness on upkeep. You won’t be up keeping much in pvp.

I’ll have my revenant to 80 right away. I’ll also be putting points into herald first. I’ll sacrifice salvation if I need to. I don’t plan on using that.

I have enough tomes to level to 80. I have boxes of Arah weapons and armor sets from doing pvp so I get him into exotic gear right away. I have a few other pieces like rings and such to give him. I don’t worry about runes and sigils so much. Only if I end up raiding with him. Depends on what the guild needs.

I think a bow would make most sense for the revenant. Need another ranged weapon for sure.

I don’t see why it should be disabled. I suppose you could just make revenant versions of all the racials by throwing some energy costs on them on top of a cooldown so there isn’t an energy advantage. Just make all the elite skills 50 energy plus their normal cooldowns. And 30 energy for other utilities plus normal cooldowns.

It should have its own queue. When I’m playing solo I never do unranked because of courtyard and the other lame maps in unranked.

As others said, GW2 was only made because the GW1 engine was extremely limited in what they could do with it. To fix GW1 required such a massive overhaul that they basically had to start over completely. GW2 doesn’t really have that issue unless some really new idea comes along.

They’ll likely just keep making expansions until people stop buying them just like WoW.

Qugi.2653:

uhohhotdog.3598:

Qugi.2653:

uhohhotdog.3598:

More disappointing sales. What’s the point of these useless sales? Why not put something people want?

How do you know what is in sale is not what people want? Just because it is not thing you want? If you look at rise in gold to gem exchange since sale start I would say the sale has thing people want.

More like they’re buying simply because it’s on sale much like I have been. Because I might have a need for it later.
There’s been plenty of people asking for things that haven’t been included.

You still do not get to say what is on sale is not what people want. Do you know every player in game and talk to them? Do they all say to you we do not want this? No. You are just angry because you do not get what you want and think you can talk for all player. Many thing during sale was thing I want. So see you are wrong.

Well everyone in my guild basically. Map chat. I haven’t heard anything good about the sales on the whole except for a few people here that feel the need to respond to my posts just to argue.

Also to add…This is an anniversary sale. As in once a year thing. I expected things on sale that normally aren’t on sale. These sales have been things I would expect to be on sale in mid March or any other unspecial time of the year. Half the items were things that were very recently taken off the trading post for no reason other than to bring them back for this sale to make it look like more than it actually was.

Saiyan.1704:

Alhadin.4032:

No other aspect in this game is like……….. insert what you want.

Wrong. This is in regards to trait performances, not mechanics. Grab any trait that’s suppose to have a certain function. DS goes above and beyond that function. It completely counters a build type. Not a class like.. a thief or guard or necro.. a build. All Condi.

Alhadin.4032:

“Have 2 or 3 condi classes 2v1 or 3v1 a DS Ele in the same way”
Why on earth do you have 2-3 condi classes on one team?

That right there, is a misconception that people have. Like it or not, this game has 3 build types: Power, Condi, and Sustains. They’re all equally viable. Mix and match them to suite your playstyle.

DS is a trait that counters condition builds.
There is no trait that counters power builds.
Signet Necro can potwntually soft counter heavy boon sustains. Still, not a hard counter.

You can’t justify Diamond Skin.

There is a trait that makes you immune to crit.

I don’t think they want us that bursty. I really don’t want 20 sec CD on swap. If anything the swap should be lower.

If you’re up keeping in pvp you’re doing it wrong

Sense8

/charrs

Qugi.2653:

uhohhotdog.3598:

More disappointing sales. What’s the point of these useless sales? Why not put something people want?

How do you know what is in sale is not what people want? Just because it is not thing you want? If you look at rise in gold to gem exchange since sale start I would say the sale has thing people want.

More like they’re buying simply because it’s on sale much like I have been. Because I might have a need for it later.
There’s been plenty of people asking for things that haven’t been included.

More disappointing sales. What’s the point of these useless sales? Why not put something people want?

They extended it for this? Really? So disappointing

No there hasn’t. I’ve been waiting the whole 21+ days for it.

Just increase the cap and make it each percent increase cost more. By that I mean more so than it already does. A steeper curve.

I play for fun, not for carrots.

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

You just convinced me that you have no idea how to play revenant. If you play shiro/glint, it’s completely from mallyx/glint. Mallyx/glint is extremely strong with no problems from either power or condi builds. Shiro/glint is weak to condi but very strong against power builds. If you play shiro/glint you shouldn’t even try to fight on even ground against condi classes.

Makes me wonder if you just played it casually or was actually testing it.

You just convinced me all you want to do is complain. You want to talk about one combo in the entirety of the revenant. Mallyx is ok with conditions if that’s how you want to go but you can’t just look at one combo. Makes me wonder if you play anything else.

What are you even on about? My point was that glint’s heal synergises a little too well with the revenant as a whole, and that it should be toned down a little. I have substantiated it with valid reasoning, although I can’t say the same for you. Why would you isolate a single skill and say ‘this skill by itself is not op so it can’t be op even if it’s complimented by other mechanics’?

I multi class by the way. I’ve played every class except necro in pvp.

I multi class too. You can’t say one skill is bad because you refuse to counter it. Just don’t attack pretty simple.

I don’t ‘refuse to counter’ anything. I just provided an entire list of why that doesn’t work most of the time against a moderately competent revenant and you have yet to validate your point.

You sound like the kind of person who will claim we can’t say d/d ele is op because we refuse to counter it.

You’re comparing a single skill to an entire profession. Your list is bunk. It lasts for 4 seconds. You’re assuming way too many things that will happen that often don’t. Your claim about mallyx only applies to conditions and nothing else. If you’re using your utilities to suppress conditions all game you’re not doing much damage.

No idea if you’re trolling or.. 4s is not a short period of time in a real time fast paced game like gw2. All the scenarios I’ve stated are what I have personally experienced, meaning they have happened in actual games, not just theoretical talk.

And pray tell, if you’re not using mallyx as an anti-condition measure for revenant, what do you use? I would love to hear from the pseudo expert. Your lopsided arguments are very entertaining.

Edit: please clarify what you mean by comparing a single skill to a profession. You mean, we are actually supposed to balance skills individually without regards to the other mechanics the profession offers?

You compared the glint skill to dd eles.

You realize there are legends other than Mallyx and Glint right? You’re not required to use both of those you know that right?

You realise that other legends do not have adequate condi clear right? And you realise that there are no decent revenant builds without glint right?

First question yes, second question I don’t know as i didn’t bother with non glints because I liked my own build too much. Without mallyx. Yea I’m weak to heavy conditions but that doesn’t make it a bad build. That’s like saying all thieves are bad because they’re weak against heavy armor.

You seem to think that because you feel glint and mallyx are a strong combo that we should nerf glint. That’s not how things work. Nerf glint and you nerf many other builds.

Yea either extend it or significantly increase the tokens. There’s no way I’m going to get anything I want with the current rewards.

Agreed. I’d have to farm this all weekend to get 1 item. Some people have jobs.

It doesn’t scale high enough. Everything dies before I get a hit in.

I find the scaling not high enough. Everything dies before I can get a hit in.

I have 20 arah weapons chests in my bank and 7 armor chests.

Unless they release a bunch of stuff on the final day id say this anniversary sale has been lackluster at best. Most of this was only taken off the store a couple months ago. Where’s the character slot sale? I wanted more pvp finishers on sale. Should have had everything on sale.

I agree. Anet should just hand us a million gold each every day. No need to do anything at all.

Because my name is uh oh hot dog.

But I can’t make it there so you should give my ticket to someone else.

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

You just convinced me that you have no idea how to play revenant. If you play shiro/glint, it’s completely from mallyx/glint. Mallyx/glint is extremely strong with no problems from either power or condi builds. Shiro/glint is weak to condi but very strong against power builds. If you play shiro/glint you shouldn’t even try to fight on even ground against condi classes.

Makes me wonder if you just played it casually or was actually testing it.

You just convinced me all you want to do is complain. You want to talk about one combo in the entirety of the revenant. Mallyx is ok with conditions if that’s how you want to go but you can’t just look at one combo. Makes me wonder if you play anything else.

What are you even on about? My point was that glint’s heal synergises a little too well with the revenant as a whole, and that it should be toned down a little. I have substantiated it with valid reasoning, although I can’t say the same for you. Why would you isolate a single skill and say ‘this skill by itself is not op so it can’t be op even if it’s complimented by other mechanics’?

I multi class by the way. I’ve played every class except necro in pvp.

I multi class too. You can’t say one skill is bad because you refuse to counter it. Just don’t attack pretty simple.

I don’t ‘refuse to counter’ anything. I just provided an entire list of why that doesn’t work most of the time against a moderately competent revenant and you have yet to validate your point.

You sound like the kind of person who will claim we can’t say d/d ele is op because we refuse to counter it.

You’re comparing a single skill to an entire profession. Your list is bunk. It lasts for 4 seconds. You’re assuming way too many things that will happen that often don’t. Your claim about mallyx only applies to conditions and nothing else. If you’re using your utilities to suppress conditions all game you’re not doing much damage.

No idea if you’re trolling or.. 4s is not a short period of time in a real time fast paced game like gw2. All the scenarios I’ve stated are what I have personally experienced, meaning they have happened in actual games, not just theoretical talk.

And pray tell, if you’re not using mallyx as an anti-condition measure for revenant, what do you use? I would love to hear from the pseudo expert. Your lopsided arguments are very entertaining.

Edit: please clarify what you mean by comparing a single skill to a profession. You mean, we are actually supposed to balance skills individually without regards to the other mechanics the profession offers?

You compared the glint skill to dd eles.

You realize there are legends other than Mallyx and Glint right? You’re not required to use both of those you know that right?

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

You just convinced me that you have no idea how to play revenant. If you play shiro/glint, it’s completely from mallyx/glint. Mallyx/glint is extremely strong with no problems from either power or condi builds. Shiro/glint is weak to condi but very strong against power builds. If you play shiro/glint you shouldn’t even try to fight on even ground against condi classes.

Makes me wonder if you just played it casually or was actually testing it.

You just convinced me all you want to do is complain. You want to talk about one combo in the entirety of the revenant. Mallyx is ok with conditions if that’s how you want to go but you can’t just look at one combo. Makes me wonder if you play anything else.

What are you even on about? My point was that glint’s heal synergises a little too well with the revenant as a whole, and that it should be toned down a little. I have substantiated it with valid reasoning, although I can’t say the same for you. Why would you isolate a single skill and say ‘this skill by itself is not op so it can’t be op even if it’s complimented by other mechanics’?

I multi class by the way. I’ve played every class except necro in pvp.

I multi class too. You can’t say one skill is bad because you refuse to counter it. Just don’t attack pretty simple.

I don’t ‘refuse to counter’ anything. I just provided an entire list of why that doesn’t work most of the time against a moderately competent revenant and you have yet to validate your point.

You sound like the kind of person who will claim we can’t say d/d ele is op because we refuse to counter it.

You’re comparing a single skill to an entire profession. Your list is bunk. It lasts for 4 seconds. You’re assuming way too many things that will happen that often don’t. Your claim about mallyx only applies to conditions and nothing else. If you’re using your utilities to suppress conditions all game you’re not doing much damage.

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

You just convinced me that you have no idea how to play revenant. If you play shiro/glint, it’s completely from mallyx/glint. Mallyx/glint is extremely strong with no problems from either power or condi builds. Shiro/glint is weak to condi but very strong against power builds. If you play shiro/glint you shouldn’t even try to fight on even ground against condi classes.

Makes me wonder if you just played it casually or was actually testing it.

You just convinced me all you want to do is complain. You want to talk about one combo in the entirety of the revenant. Mallyx is ok with conditions if that’s how you want to go but you can’t just look at one combo. Makes me wonder if you play anything else.

What are you even on about? My point was that glint’s heal synergises a little too well with the revenant as a whole, and that it should be toned down a little. I have substantiated it with valid reasoning, although I can’t say the same for you. Why would you isolate a single skill and say ‘this skill by itself is not op so it can’t be op even if it’s complimented by other mechanics’?

I multi class by the way. I’ve played every class except necro in pvp.

I multi class too. You can’t say one skill is bad because you refuse to counter it. Just don’t attack pretty simple.

What’s a plox?

plox?

ReaperJr.5967:

uhohhotdog.3598:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

You just convinced me that you have no idea how to play revenant. If you play shiro/glint, it’s completely from mallyx/glint. Mallyx/glint is extremely strong with no problems from either power or condi builds. Shiro/glint is weak to condi but very strong against power builds. If you play shiro/glint you shouldn’t even try to fight on even ground against condi classes.

Makes me wonder if you just played it casually or was actually testing it.

You just convinced me all you want to do is complain. You want to talk about one combo in the entirety of the revenant. Mallyx is ok with conditions if that’s how you want to go but you can’t just look at one combo. Makes me wonder if you play anything else.

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Solori.6025:

ReaperJr.5967:

Glint’s heal should have a cast time, or if they want to make it instant, it shouldn’t work through disables.

They should also give the rev a sign on screen that says stop attacking cause your healing me.

Are you actually implying glint’s heal is okay as it is? A heal that goes through stun, provides regeneration passively when it’s not active, is instant cast when it’s active? Really?

1. Regen is a sorry heal and is outhealed by almost every passive healing signet in the game.

So please don’t bring up regen like it’s a warriors healing signet.
It’s been bad since launch and it’s still bad.
Don’t believe me.
Go make something glass and try and survive with regen only, no heal, just regen, with someone attacking you. Come back and tell us how well that went.

2. That heal on a celestial amulet heals initially for 2,077. The rest of the healing comes from you attacking.
They turn a bright blue
They have an icon on the buff bar.
It’s really really hard to not see that using burst skills on a bright blue target is a bad idea.

So this is the solution.
Dont
Attack

I know this is really hard, and may be awkward at first.
But don’t attack.
This way they dont heal.

Do you attack a warrior with defiance stance on?
No of course not.
You would have to be a scrub to do that right?
The same applies to a Giant blue glowing Revenant.

You’re hilarious. I have tested revenant extensively, destroyed every other class with it. I know how to look out for the glint legend swap and the incoming heal. The thing is, it’s still not that easy to prevent them from healing. Let me elaborate.

1. They heal from condition damage. Let’s say you have a kitten ton of torment and confusion on them. They just have to walk around a few times spamming AA and they’re back to full hp.

2. This basically applies for every dot. Pets, minions, elemental summons. Whatever. Necro wells, phantasms, etc. Basically ai interaction.

3. Putting aside 1v1 perspective, you think in tpvp everyone’s a hive mind? Oh glint’s heal popped, everyone stop aoe bomb or single target focus. Don’t apply conditions or dot. Really?

4. Disregarding the regen, it being able to work through disables is ridiculous. Why should you be able to heal through stun or taunt?

5. Even if you don’t attack when the heal is up, which probably means you’ll be kiting any potential damage from the revenant, he’ll just switch to another legend and use that heal instead. Either way, he gets to heal and you don’t get to do anything about it.

If you think revenant is weak after their buffs, I think it’s the player not the class.

Ok so they heal for a few seconds from condi dmg then start taking massive damage again because they have crap for cleanse.

Other classes have some level of invulnerability this is one way of having that that also has a counter. Not every encounter with the rev is going to be an aoe fest that allows them to heal all the way up. I played with the glint heal all weekend. By the end the good players noticed it and backed away completely wasting the skill and no heal. So I switch to shiro and get enchanted daggers and have to actually attack to get any health which is usually negated by the damage I’ll take while attacking. Only the sword 3 skill really allows you to heal from the daggers which can be blocked by anyone paying attention.

brannigan.9831:

Typical op expansion class. We have never seen this before…..

There’s nothing OP about it. Learn to counter

Legendary is the same as ascended but with the ability to change the stats when you want. Not a new tier

You’re going to have to transfer off yaks bend

Try starting every match by going home first. Most people like to rush mid so you won’t get much argument. And then kill whoever comes for you

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Much to your dismay, Revenant’s do need a weakness.

So what’s elementalist’s weakness?