Guild Wars 2

Here’s my thought on shiro heal. Make it do a normal heal and then do damage on hit. Forget the life steal part though I know it fits with the theme.

A single dodge/evade can completely negate the skill if you do it while casting.

Most of what you said has nothing to do with herald. The herald heal does have an animation. It’s a bright white glow in the middle of the character. Maybe they could make it a bit bigger or make it a bubble but it’s there.

Rev is strong mostly because people haven’t learned to counter play it yet. After a while people will figure it out and rev in its current form will be just another class. It has strengths and it has weaknesses.

I think we need a structured but casual large (15v15) scale pvp.

I’ve posted on this a couple times. Everyone hates it but anet loves it because they hate us and like to frustrate us.

You have more defense than dodges. If you don’t then that’s a problem with your build not UA or revenant. If you choose to go glass cannon then you must live with the consequences.

I do feel the shiro heal lacking. I’d rather have the damage removed if it gives more healing.

You have to wait til next beta if there is one or wait until the expansion releases if there isn’t

arnitheking.8427:

Well I think dual wielding means that you have 2 weapons equipped (two one-handers) (thus the name), they dont have to be the same. Or at least that is what I think but I’m not 100% sure as it is.

Yes so mace/axe would count as dual wielding. Any 2 one handed weapons.

Though not sure if shield counts for that.

Azure.8670:

Tora.7214:

Kodama.6453:

Killyox.3950:

This is a L2P issue really.

Most people will rather have something nerfed than actually L2P and level up their game, do a research about countering and so on. Like actually put an effort into it.

If you guys keep saying it is a L2P issue, then pls TELL us how to counter it. You can only interrupt it before the attack began, because after you are dodging each cc an enemy is throwing against you. If you blind the skill before it gets used, just 1 of the 7 hits will fail, the other 6 will hit you. You can’t use AoE damage like against a backstab thief, because you are evading the whole time.

If there is any real counter (and it isn’t a counter to use a invuln skill with 60s cd against a skill with 10s cd), please tell us! Block does work but has mostly much larger cd as UA too. Some professions don’t have any blocks (just like necromancer for example).

You cant have a counter for each and every single UA. Just like you cant have one for each and every single 100b/rapid fire. That would be unfair

However

Ranger:Gs block, double evade

Guardian: blind,aegis,ring of wardin, double evade

Warrior: shield block, double evade

Thief: sb evade, tripple evade (daredevil), staff evade, stealth, double evade

Engineer: shield block, turrets to divide dmg, double evade

Mesmer: stealth, illusions to reduce dmg, double evade

Elementalist: shock aura on demand, double evade, perma 50% protecction(tempest)

Necromancer: double evade, enter death(reaper) shroud, minions to reduce dmg

There you go short cd methods for each class, if you dont have one on those in your build, then like I say, you cant expect to have a counter for everything in any build.

Cheers

this is actually one of the worst responses ive ever seen. I dont think UA is is OP, but after reading this, I kinda do. You have to do ALL Of that you avoid one attack with a 3 sec evade on a 10s cd and have to deal with one of, if not the, highest AA after?

No one said you have to do all that. He was listing options

Something I’ve noticed and I believe this was said last beta but when you use impossible odds when finishing someone the quickness only speeds up the animation. There’s a delay after the animation before they are actually finished. I think this may affect all quickened finishers.

It’s not OP. People just haven’t learned to counter it yet. Its very counterable. It’s failed for me quite a lot because people have learned already how to counter. When they do, it’s not good for the rev. Without the evades revs can be squishy.

Tritone.1395:

The real question is why does it feel that way?

I think the answer is that every legend (other than glint) is the barebone version of that role. Jalis is a tank. Ventari is a healer. There isn’t really an in-between with these legends.
Now Glint on the otherhand has multiple uses. Use it to boost your damage with permanent fury. Use it to tank with perma protection or regen. You could even argue it can go condi with might and Elemental Burst.

Basically I think that Glint feels essential because she works well with every legend while all the others only seem to work well her.

This is true. The other legends have too much of a role while glint is more versatile.

This is why each legend should have 1 or 2 more utility options. More customization may make glint less important.

Ohoni.6057:

The best way to disengage as a Revenant is to walk over your opponents’ corpses.

This is my favorite method.

" Herald major grandmaster trait Soothing Bastion: States that it increases boon duration while holding a shield, but does not state a value or increase boon duration."

It says using shield skill and it says 2 seconds duration

Guess the daily today? And no it didn’t go well.

I’m thinking now a male norn and a female asura. For the contrast. I love rev so much I want 2. Only one I’ll be goin to 80 with to start at least.

Zenith.7301:

Adamantium.3682:

Zenith.7301:

Adamantium.3682:

I agree. It seems like Herald was the only elite spec designed to be a part of the core profession. The first 8 professions are fine without their ES, but the Revenant to me seems like it was obviously designed from the start to use Herald.

Herald is not an addition but a core part of the profession, and a very important one at that.

Yeah ok lol.

No mesmer worth bringing to a group WOULD EVER NOT BRING CHRONOMANCER.

Alacrity is a 66% recharge rate reduction for the entire group, on ttop of double time warp, so I don’t know what you’re smoking.

Similarly, any necro who doesn’t want to do garbage DPS in PvE will spec reaper. It’s not “optional”.

You people, I swear. Must be the people mashing 1 on dynamic events or WvW zergs.

A good elite spec that you want to use is not the same as what the Herald is described as in this thread. Before you decide you’re so much better than the rest of us, maybe you should read further than the first few words next time.

There’s no “want”. You either use chrono or you get the kick from my group. A non-chrono mesmer is a kitten mesmer. A non-reaper necro is a kitten necro.

What you describe as “want” applies just as much to the herald. People played the last BWE’s without herald just fine.

You don’t seem to understand the point. It’s more about the feel of the profession not the power. Herald just seems to hold everything together as if it was designed to be a core spec not just some new trait line that is for the moment OP. Design not numbers.

Stealth will stop you from being hit. The rev just evades in place.

Would be nice if they changed the upkeep so we can use both at once. Or some other work around.

My engi f5 is on the same line as f4

Stilgar.6437:

uhohhotdog.3598:

For pvp I feel ele is by far the worst. Being able to mist only delays the inevitable. It’s very rare that using it actually helps the situation. For pve it’s great. And the 3 skill is complete trash for any game mode.

ele is unquestionably the best one actually in pvp. It is the only one which has guaranteed stomp protection (even mesmer can be stomped 1st try in some cases). All other classes except ele, mes and thief can be stability/blind stomped (or even bodyblocked) and if you have teleport you can stomp the thief first try.

Ele can move in downstate which is the best thing you can ask from the downstate (thieves can move too but much shorter range), you can move to your teammates, move on the point (or off in some cases when its beneficial), move out of AoEs to make rez easier, even portal away to safety (people use this a lot nowadays). The 3rd skill is a bit weak, but 2 is so good it doesnt matter.

For pvp i would order them : Ele, Thief, Mesmer, Ranger, Guard, Engi, Necro, War. If necro is running marauder i would move him up (awesome dmg) but for all other builds its pretty bad. And its not really the power-necro downstate that is good its the traits/sigils you are procing. War Vengence – out of 100 times you get downed, you wont use it 96 times, 3 times you will use it and hurt your team and 1 time you will be successful.

Ranger can be pretty awesome with chain interrupts, pet helping rez and ranger wins most down vs down fights (except vs power necros and warriors with stability ready when they get up), but still i think that first-stomp prevention trumps all and mes/thief are better at it then the ranger.

For pve ranger is way above everyone.

You’re insane. Yea it prevents you from getting stomped for another 2 seconds. Your team can’t Rez you while in mist form. The amount of times I’ve been rezzed because of mist form are much more rare than other professions. It really only helps against terrible players that will send 2+ to stomp the Ele. It’s only upside is to get the other team to waste that 2 seconds on you which can be done by other professions as well with interrupts or push backs. I rather stomp an ele than any other profession. Many others like Mesmer or thief I just attack down because they teleport around the place before you finish stomping half the time.

People that ask if anything in GW is pay to win should try playing an actual pay to win game to see the difference.

If you could buy something in the gem store that gave you extra stats that others that didn’t pay can’t get, then that’s pay to win. Everything in GW is aesthetic or convenience. There is no advantage.

Unrelenting assault plus enchanted daggers is some large burst on a single target. I’ve taken people from 100% down to around 20 or less with one burst.

Ithilwen.1529:

uhm.. I said herald, not revenant. I’m talking about the melee necro.

Herald is the elite Revenant spec.

I also like it too as well.

This whole freezing the screen when the accept box pops up needs to stop.

I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really hate this more than you can possibly know. My body shakes in anger every time I’m in the middle of something and this pops up. I’ve nearly broken bones over this. You will be responsible for my medical bills.

For real though can we end this experiment now?

Have Revenant on live right now?

I love it too much to watch it disappear again….

I should have been in bed 2 hours ago but I’m still playing because I love me Revenant.

For pvp I feel ele is by far the worst. Being able to mist only delays the inevitable. It’s very rare that using it actually helps the situation. For pve it’s great. And the 3 skill is complete trash for any game mode.

Gw1 pvp was better. More team oriented. Better maps to play on.

The maps are the biggest fail for gw2. There were so many great maps in gw1 that could have been used in gw2 in some way but they decided to just make completely new ones for no reason.

Maybe an evade. Or something like the enchanted daggers.

Or throw a hammer.

I can’t watch the videos at the moment but in my play time I found rev to be really strong in 1v1 power builds. Only had issues against pu mesmers so far.

Knighthonor.4061:

uhohhotdog.3598:

You don’t have to use shield just because you take herald

I dont, because it sucks. But who likes having weapons that suck? You play Necro?

I have a necro that I often play yes.

I don’t find rev squishy at all unless I get stun chained in which case most people would die quick.

You don’t have to use shield just because you take herald

As far as pvp I much prefer Herald over Mallyx. The heal skill itself is amazing. The swiftness is great for getting places. I use Shiro utilities far more anyway.

The facet of nature gives great boons. With the boon trait I do great burst damage.

I think there might be one more since there’s still some profession elite specs that havent been released yet

Only time I care is when I’m doing a jumping puzzle. Having someone else jumping at the same time in some places can throw me off or block my view of the landing spot.

Nerfs and buffs for everyone. Not just ele.

Lots of stuns/daze/knockdowns. But that goes for nearly anything

That’s just going to kill balance. Trying to balance 2v2 arena and 5v5 conquest isn’t going to work well.

Implement it but don’t try to balance around 2v2. Make it like practice mode where it’s just there to good off.

I feel like I’ve had a lot of lopsided games lately on both ends.

I think the downside to pvp in gw2 is that it’s so fast. In gw1 and other games there’s healers that keep you from dying in 2 hits the majority of the time. You could follow it easier when people aren’t dying so quick.

I agree. I want something much more similar to gvg in gw1.

I also want some heroes ascent maps.

I get there 10-15 minutes early and rarely have a fail. It could do with a few more spawns near tequatl to pull some of the Zerg off him.

I got 2 of them. I was going to donate one to the homeless but it’s account bound so I had to trash it. Such a shame.

I’d be fine with that. I think it makes more sense than trying to make a skill work for different game modes. Hell you could make a spvp wvw and pve version.

Possibly for pvp. Maybe in pve once I see how raids are.

I wanted to do male norn because I have no male heavy armor and want my rev to look big and intimidating since I don’t have anything like that yet. I might make a second one of something else just because.

I hope its weekly and not daily. Daily is too grindy.