I stated how I felt, asked if anyone else felt that way and if so, what they were doing instead of getting frustrated. That’s it. I didn’t go on a long rant about how gimped we are, I expressly stated that I love the class and it’s playstyle.
then say that next time, instead u rant about how much this class is apparently getting destroyed, and and whilst i may not be saying what u apparently wanted to hear i am simply replying to the post you left, on that note i think we all want to see some fixes rather then nerfs or buffs and id me more then happy to chat about the real issues involving the class
Anyone else feel this way? I’ve been playing less and less of the game since November, just wondering what other engis are doing. Shelving the character til another patch? Rolling new toons?
Looks to me like he did say it in the very first post. Maybe your fanboy blinders were on, and when you saw a negative comment about his personal experiences playing the engineer you quit comprehending what you were reading and replied with the same pat answer you always do to anybody who isn’t entirely satisfied with the class you feel obligated to defend because you chose it.
maybe i did have fan boy blinders on but he did say in his response to me that he wanted to know what other engineers where doing in terms of playing the engineer, which in his original post which i quote “I’ve been playing less and less of the game since November, just wondering what other engis are doing. Shelving the character til another patch? Rolling new toons?” which to me seems more like a is it even worth it anymore not “hey whats new with the engineer any sick new builds lets talk strategy” which is apparently what this thread was created for
now back on the apparent topic lets look at what the engineer can do, in 1v1 1v2 using the right skills it can be a monster, but lots of people don’t like the idea of solo and roaming in a team orientated game so lets look at that and why the engineer is the best team mate, from playing with team mates and not trying to be some crazy damage dealing animal what can i do for my team that’s gonna put them a cut above.
going a more saboteur build is one way running a bomb kit, flamer and p/s you now have some mad aoe cc which when used right is the biggest damage dealer when it comes to team play, what else do we have with this, the ability to drop 4 stacks of blind in half a second, as well as a smoke combo field (machine gun rangers do your thing) as well as when combo’d with the 1st shield skill an aoe stealth fantastic for helping with revivals and finishing with out getting involved in it, we also have a good 13 seconds of fire combo fields and with aoe’s skills once again aoe might stacking, and once again machine guns do your thing.
u can also run elixir infused bombs and the trait that increases there radius, now your not only a mad cc machine and team support yor now throwing out some epic regen with i think is something around 170 hp every bomb at 1/2 second cast time over 300 heal a second take into account that most heals have at a minimum 20 second cd ure now healing about 6k hp between each of there own heals while still throwing out some great combo fields and devastating cc.
lets get this how good engineers really are ball rolling aye
I love that in response to my thread I’m getting l2p and move the kitten on. I stated how I felt, asked if anyone else felt that way and if so, what they were doing instead of getting frustrated. That’s it. I didn’t go on a long rant about how gimped we are, I expressly stated that I love the class and it’s playstyle. Elitist kittens for the win. Any cool builds you guys are trying out, any tips for getting more enjoyment out of this class etc would be welcome. If you’re here to tell me I probably just suck or re-roll, get the kitten out, because that’s not what the thread was about at all.
I’m sorry if i came of that way i just simply saying the way i felt on the learn to play matter, on that note id like to take us back to your original post.
… to find a reason to play for more than a few minutes. At least in PvP. I’ve played other professions, and they do nothing for me. My engineer was the first character I created in pre-release and though I love the playstyle, I’m getting a little tired of hopping to different builds in hopes I can reduce the damage done by the nerfbat (which ultimately comes down to ’here’s this build that can do things this other profession can do, except not as good’, but I digress). Anyone else feel this way? I’ve been playing less and less of the game since November, just wondering what other engis are doing. Shelving the character til another patch? Rolling new toons?
Well im glad you like the engineer but this is clearly a rant about Anets attention on the engineer, so this brings me back to my original point of why are some of us doing really well and then people like yourself say things like “I’m getting a little tired of hopping to different builds in hopes I can reduce the damage done by the nerfbat” what nerf bat? is it really a nerf bat? if it was that messed up of a class every one would be feeling it, but there are people doing really well with it, and people who have literally said in this thread that they are doing great
so if you really wanted to say
Elitist kittens for the win. Any cool builds you guys are trying out, any tips for getting more enjoyment out of this class etc would be welcome.
then say that next time, instead u rant about how much this class is apparently getting destroyed, and and whilst i may not be saying what u apparently wanted to hear i am simply replying to the post you left, on that note i think we all want to see some fixes rather then nerfs or buffs and id me more then happy to chat about the real issues involving the class
well if u get the 3rd tier trait hgh elixers go which ever way you want with it since u can really stack up the might, personally the ability to stack up that much might for a good amount of time really brings a new level to the engi as you no longer need that condition damage or power (depending on what ure looking at doing) stat in your gear and it can be put to better things like more tank with out sacrificing ure overall damage
i find myself reading alot more people getting on the l2p ban wagon with engineers, straight up we all have our issues with the engineer but at the end of the day some of us are doing great things with the engineer and that’s not a matter of the engineer class its self but the skilled players who are really getting the most out of the class.
I’m not trying to be a dick when i say this but sometimes you just gotta accept u cant do it and move on, hell i wish i was great a picking up women but sadly I’m not, so at the end of the day when a better player says learn to play go get better, it doesn’t matter what you read on these forums you gotta put the work into the engineer to find a build that your gonna be pro at.
the amount of failing tank cats i see compared to actual individualistic builds is kitten (no offense tankcat build, its a great build that i find fun to use now and then), so engineers that complain to much about the class yes you need to learn to play, i’m sick of hearing how kitten it is and how every other class does what we do but better, we are not every other class, start comparing yourself to other players before you start raging on the class.
I’m playing the kitten outta my engineer, im looking forward to the next update, the only thing that i feel stands reason to get nerfed is the SD build but if they nerf that for engis then they really gotta do something about glass cannon thief’s.
in wvw the other day i 1v1 a p/d thief, believe me or not he was very good after a good fight i finally downed him and just before i could finish him i was smashed by a d/d ele , i did the /join so i could talk to them and that thief says to me “i was just telling my buddy you where doing things I’ve never seen an engineer do” and “i thought u were a warrior at one point” we decided on a few 1v1 dual’s the p/d thief ended up getting the upper hand on me once he started getting used to my combos and patterns.
what i’m trying to say is if i’m doing things that a few skilled players have never seen before and honestly I’ve never seen other engineers do, what does that say about every one talking about getting changes for the engineer i understand that u have your problems with the class and i’m sure that every one who plays engineer does, but before we start throwing around ideas to improve the class lets figure out the class properly, or we will just end up turning the engineer into the off putting love child of Anet and terrible players.
All in all we should all be focusing on making Anet fix the problems that we already deal with, then look towards changing the class for the better, and hopefully with the changes that come with the next update they fix those bugs, and i hear that the op classes are getting the nerf they need which will really put my engineer in a league of its own.
Did he mention how rare it is to see an engineer in GW2? If that is so any engineer could be easily unique. Especailly in wvw
that’s true i guess, but how often do you hear of people re-rolling away from the engineer, I’ve put lots of time and effort into my engineer so maybes this is more towards the right people just arnt giving the engineer class the attention required in order to reach a standard of play that puts it on par with other classes, of course there’s no way of proving that its just my opinion.
in wvw the other day i 1v1 a p/d thief, believe me or not he was very good after a good fight i finally downed him and just before i could finish him i was smashed by a d/d ele , i did the /join so i could talk to them […]
Noob question: How do you do the /join, if you don’t know their account names?
/join and /invite will work on the person u have selected
in wvw the other day i 1v1 a p/d thief, believe me or not he was very good after a good fight i finally downed him and just before i could finish him i was smashed by a d/d ele , i did the /join so i could talk to them and that thief says to me “i was just telling my buddy you where doing things I’ve never seen an engineer do” and “i thought u were a warrior at one point” we decided on a few 1v1 dual’s the p/d thief ended up getting the upper hand on me once he started getting used to my combos and patterns.
what i’m trying to say is if i’m doing things that a few skilled players have never seen before and honestly I’ve never seen other engineers do, what does that say about every one talking about getting changes for the engineer i understand that u have your problems with the class and i’m sure that every one who plays engineer does, but before we start throwing around ideas to improve the class lets figure out the class properly, or we will just end up turning the engineer into the off putting love child of Anet and terrible players.
All in all we should all be focusing on making Anet fix the problems that we already deal with, then look towards changing the class for the better, and hopefully with the changes that come with the next update they fix those bugs, and i hear that the op classes are getting the nerf they need which will really put my engineer in a league of its own.
Engineer generally > Thief 1v1, good thieves are annoying and you wont kill them, but they wont kill you either unless you slip up.
Yeah, you have been up against bad rifle warriors. Even with the ideal spec (basically anything that doesn’t use rifles or grenades) its going to be an extremely tough fight.
Basically any class that can keep us at mid/long range for any length of time will demolish us, but this game is balanced around rock/paper/scissors mentality. If you are a condi engi and you run into a necro just save yourself the effort and sit down and die, likewise if a thief jumps you, well he shouldn’t have jumped you lol.
I exaggerated a bit on the warrior vs engi matchup, if the engi uses any variation of pistols then its in the engineers favor if the warrior spams skill while confused, but against a good warrior you still shouldn’t win unless you outplay him something fierce. But if its a rifle engi vs rifle warrior and the warrior loses, well kitten that’s one horrible warrior.
This is from my experience in TPvP and roaming WvW from about 1.5 months ago. IE before engi kits got nerfed into the ground.
actually in retrospect engi vs thief isn’t that one sided either. Pro thieves will dodge supply drop and if that happens or if you miss it for whatever reason, its a downhill fight for you (assuming they have thieves guild elite)
first off i said a smart engineer will beat a thief, not a stupid engineer playing the typical meta builds, second rifle warrior over a rifle engineer lol what a joke, now the only way a rifle warrior is gonna beat a rifle engineer is if he has massive damage and gets lucky, meaning that skilled rifle warrior verses a skilled rifle engineer has got nothing, its a simple dodge dodge knock back blunderbuss jump shot net shoot in the back till hes dead, and that’s with out using any utility skills.
3rd getting kitted ……really lol, id like to explain that to ya but clearly you don’t know how to play the engineer to its best potential, and for the last thing why are you relying on 1 skill supply drop to take out a thief most good thief’s i face do dodge it, nice one good on them, here let me show you some of the sick cc i have, o wait u went invisible doesn’t stop me from shooting you.
and finally if u have so much ways of explaining why a engineer fails in these areas please go out with you engineer fraps some kitten and prove that the engineer is under par, till then you clearly dont know what your doing with the engineer and therefore are not a skilled player
p.s grenade kits are better then they were before stop rolling with the meta and u will see why
come on guys u clearly haven’t used a sd build properly, imagine if we could run a might stacking build with a sd that would allways hit, the damage would be incredible, atleast this way it forces us to use skills that arnt that fantastic, lol run into a group of enemys with elixer s, grenade kit and bomb kit with a might stacking build…….knockdown everything, insta kill most classes befor they see you when they do pop elixer s run away without a problem, that in my opinion is a bit op
there was to much to read so excuse me if i repeat some thing that has already been talked about
First of ive been playing engi since i started which was a good 3 months ago, now i pritty much only play WvW and most of that time is spent solo roaming, apart from the more often then not getting stomped by zergs, engineers easily hold there own and they dont take a high amount of skill to play its simply getting your combos right not mashing buttons like a idiot, and lets face it theres a counter for everything and engineers are more then versatile to have a counter for everything and ive proven this time and time again, and to that nofo.8469 guy who said.
Engineer is fine in most 1v1 situations with people that can’t kite you. So to the people that say they can stomp noob thieves or w/e, no kitten. See how you fare against oh I don’t know, a good rifle warrior or something.
im genna be totally honest here and say that skilled thieves are pritty easy to beat for a smart engineer unless ure running the sd/grenade build then its just hilarious to fight thieves, and please find a skilled rifle warrior for me face the ones ive versed so far must be terrible players because rifle warriors fail so hard verses my engineer
ahhhhh p/s love that don’t normally use it for solo fighting but when im with some buddy’s in WvW i take elixir R, flamethrower kit and bomb kit for epic cc and all those combo fields for my team mates the toss elixir r is great for reviving team mates as well, also they haven’t fixed the tool tip for toss elixir r yet but it does drop a light combo field as well as revive so there’s a handy 6 second condition removal for the ranged team mates
really good combo, i enjoy playing with the combo fields on engi, im traited and geared towards lots of damage and also using the Hgh elixir for epic amounts of stacks, any way you should try using the elixir u ability, what i like to do with it is knock down the target drop smoke bomb, toss elixir u then elixir u and sit in the combo field (more of a wall lol) smashing a helpless target with massive damage attacks from my rifle, all the walls can be pritty handy, kinda circumstantial for the reflection wall since it only cures conditions but the other 2 walls are brilliant in any fight, any way my gears normally all berserker’s , with my avarage attack value (with stacks) is 3600 and a 64% chance to crit with fury up, terrible tank but you dont really need it the first 2 evades is normally enough to avoid the initial attacks people like to throw down
i use a rifle to but unlike kazi i didn’t take grenades because im kitten at aiming lol.
anyway my traits are 20/30/0/20/0 i take you basic damage dealing traits except in alchemy i take fast-acting elixirs and cleaning formula 409.
my stats are power 1800ish precision 1700ish and toughness vitality between 1400-1500, with the boons i get powers almost always over 2k and fury is up nearly permanently , my skills are elixir h, elixir b, elixir r, flamethrower kit and supply kit, thanks to the trait skill cleaning formula and all those elixirs and the belt skills i got heaps of condition removal.
anyway i try to spam my heal whenever i can to get the most outta the might stacks as well as elixir b so i can keep that fury up, i pop elixir r when i need to get away from combat really fast, and try to save my tool belt elixirs for condition removal and boons but saving the toss elixir r when im about to go down (you have no idea how much this owns when your vs’ing 2 or 3 people and they all try to finish you)
any way for fighting i like to net people jump shot blunderbuss and then knock back to counter any ideas they had for dishing out some damage while switching to flamethrower now and then to make use of the fire combo field, while using the knock back to throw then back threw the fire wall and the blind is always handy , also make note of what the other people are doing using your knock backs to interrupt as much of there kitten as possible and finally use your supply kit only when u need to, if your any good chances are you’ll never need to use it in a 1v1, also just something i like to do when fighting multiple people drop your fire wall on any one you’ve downed this will hopefully discourage him team mates from rezzing him stop him from healing and if they do try to rez him u can deal out some extreme damage to any one stupid enough to stay still for that long
hope this helps, im not so good at this whole explaining thing but if you have any question ill be happy to provide answers
I like the tool kit and p/s combo lots of defense throw the bomb kit in there and ure going to melt all the melee user’s
Take bombkit elixir b and one other of ure choice go pistol main with ure traits 0/30/20/20/0 take pistol shots pierce then get agro of big groups and switch between bombs and ure pistol dropping all the skills u can if u play like I do u won’t have a problem taking 5-10 eenemy’s at a time and u will drop them in no time at all with out the risk of dieing easily
i found the tool kit useful there for a while, running pistol/shield, magnet →nails →prybar →switch back to pistol/shield → static shot → then whatever works best in your situation, stacks alot of confusion at the very start of the fight when people are spamming out there skills the most, having all the blocking is handy when facing those heavy melee chars to