Honestly if you don’t already know CoE I wouldn’t suggest you try doing it with PUGs. I recently came back and it seems as though people can not count on P1 hacking, they run into golems at husk on P2(exaggerated but it doesn’t seem like many know it), can not count at destroyer/can not jump from destroyer.
First off Judgement was a terrible game I still cry about the terrible that it is.
Anyway this topic was brought up a while ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Gambits-in-Dungeon/first#post3095369
I was wondering did they change how many times a dungeon can be completed in a day’s time now?
I am pretty sure I did CoF last night after the reset and I went and did P1 again today, and got the another chest with the 40 tokens and 1G or whatever.
Doesn’t a WP show up in tar elemental room after you beat abomination?
I have found that when using Warrior GS 5 towards Bjarl or similar attacks works to unfreeze him.
Also I support kicking 100% , if you got kicked you probably didnt deserve the reward anyway.
The things you say make me wonder how many loose screws you have…
Please please please please please, do not make a Shortbow or P/P thief… The damage you will do is comparable to someone slapping you with a wet napkin.
NA or EU I can help if you are NA
Alpha is NOT higher risk when stacked on, because 2 of his 3 potential attacks cannot hit a target that is on top of him.
Alpha is indeed higher risk when stacked because if you don’t dodge the ice attack it is more or less death. Unless you are a in PVT or whatever then you might have a chance to take a few hits before he kills you.
Alpha has 5 attacks the Ice spike alternates with a ground attack, there are the fire attacks if you are stacked it applies burn if you are further he drops a tooth on you, and then depending on the path you have the long range ground AoE attack. Why would you want to range and potentially deal with more attacks when you could just stack condi cleanse, and dodge the one attack. Sure you could just walk out of the other one’s but why waste more time than needed?
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This thread shouldn’t hinder you in the least I pretty much exclusively run thief and I have no problem with groups (getting in/staying in). I have problems with other thieves joining thinking SB is good DPS so I have resorted to posting Px experienced no Shortbow thieves.
From what I have gathered people guest to the instance owners server and that supposedly works but I can neither confirm or deny this.
SB and p/p thief oh boy… I saw one of those in CoE once long day. Thieves don’t slow the skips down idiots slow skips down. Usually with me it is oh look a thief he will help you complete the run or they wait for me to use SR, most times, after I use it to revive someone.
I am not an Arah pro by any stretch of the imagination, but I pretty much know how to get through most of the Arah trash without stealth aids.
That is a bug? I thought it was normal for some reason… Everytime I got out of combat and changed my skills out I always get a CD of whatever I just used.
Use Signet of Agility then swap out Signet of Power to ShadowStep I would have the CD of Signet of Agility. Never really bothered me as I normally have time to waste and will make the run anyway.
I play thief almost exclusively… I rarely to never get kicked then again I don’t sit in the back using short bow then laugh when a full zerker thief goes down saying well I am doing a lot of damage and I am still at full health. I am doing something right.
Another way I have seen it get done and I was apart of it was we killed about 3/4ths of the entire room there was only the last column left pretty much and we (3 Guards, a thief, a warrior) all just melee’d him then killed the remainder. Other people have told me that, that didn’t work for them, but I got the mini oak so meh. I would help but I don’t have much patience for incompetent players as of late, not saying you are, so I am taking a little break.
if you have at least one person melee him then he almost never throws his whirling blades
That is a lie I exclusively melee him and he still threw them at the people standing way over on the other side just ranging. It is easier to just melee him and dodge into him as he swirls away then stack right back on him…
No I am trying to tell you those barracudas just destroy me every time. They need to fix the underwater melee exploit that those fish use.
I honestly think HotW and TA are equal. TA might be seen as easier because the end boss you can literally just walk away from the screen if you stand in that one spot and range. That and I think HotW has an underwater boss. All underwater content is hard.
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Oh yeah and make sure you are < level 30 and wear the hardest title to get Combat Healer.
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Nuuuuuuuu… “Master Crafter” lets everyone know that you craft-leveled your character.
Master Crafter implies you have some idea of what is going on in the game. We want that completely clueless I revive NPC in the middle of fights thing going.
Next time advertise your party like I do in LA.
LFG AC Story, level 80, full exotic zerker, ascended weapons/legendaries, 10k+ AP, must have dungeon master. I need you to carry me through dungeon.
I usually get zero responses but I feel today is the day.
Oh yeah and make sure you are < level 30 and wear the hardest title to get Combat Healer.
On a serious note it isn’t that the dungeon is hard, not as much as you don’t know the mechanics of it yet. I learned very early that a group can hold you back if they don’t know the content/don’t know how to play their character well.
Did CoF P1 with my old guild, I had done it once before with a PUG and it was quick so I figured, easy. Slave master hit us like a brick wall. We failed the acolyte part. Died repeatedly on boulders, wiped on opening gate, and then everyone quit at the searing effigy because we didn’t have enough DPS so they got frustrated and just left.
CoF P1 by no stretch of the imagination is hard, we just didn’t know what to do, had terrible builds, and terrible gear. The only way to get better is to play the content you find difficult repeatedly i.e. practice makes perfect.
Good Luck.
I was really tired last night and I guess I didn’t convey what I was thinking too well. I have a level 25, or so, Guardian right now and when I am running around open world I only seem to hit 2 maybe 3 things tops with sword.
Whereas with staff I can hit 5 wouldn’t it be better to just throw it on the staff and slap everything once or twice and let the rest of the group kill the rest of the trash I mean you will be carrying them mostly through the dungeon anyway might as well let them get your stacks for you.
That doesn’t make sense wouldn’t you benefit from having sigil of night, force or something on your s/f since you can only get the 25 max stacks and then you could just swap the staff out after?
I think that is appropriate for trash as it has a large hit range? I think Brazil’s guide said something about it but I usually just mute it because yeah…
A good few people here are the chefs they make kitten good builds and you turn it down because you are stuck on the PB&J.
Sort of tangential, but I don’t think GW2 currently has enough build complexity such that anyone could be considered a build “chef”. For every class, only a handful of builds make any sense, and they’re fairly obvious IMO.
You only a have a selection of frozen microwave meals to choose from. And then some people manage to cook those improperly.
/shrug You get the idea so my analogy might be off doesn’t mean they are right in trying to destroy other people’s fun with their stupidity.
The problem with your logic is… Most people in this forum want to play with people that know what they are doing and want to get done with the dungeon as quickly as possible. That is how THEY want to play.
Then along comes people like you who say well I am the best 5 signet gs/rifle camping soldier wearing warrior that the world has ever seen so I will teach those zerker warriors that I can tank better than a guardian AND deal high damage. You people are the ones joining groups asking for experienced zerker only, then get upset when people come on this sub forum to rant about it. If you want to play knocking everything back with your rifle by all means that is perfectly fine with me.
Don’t expect any sympathy when you get kicked from the group and don’t expect the people with multiple infractions to be kind to you after you see the MATHEMATICALLY proven subpar builds decide that, that is the right way to play and then you force yourself on the “elitists.”
If anything you kittens are elitists because you see the numbers and then you say well I never learned that the default key to dodge is ‘V’ so that can’t possibly be a good build. Then you join the groups expecting to be welcomed with open arms. No that isn’t how it works.
You don’t go to a restaurant to tell the chef he is a scumbag and you can cook the food better you go there to enjoy yourself. A good few people here are the chefs they make kitten good builds and you turn it down because you are stuck on the PB&J.
Long story short learn to play.
I do run a 3-5 signet build in dungeons and there are plenty of reasons -
1) It never completely fails so I never need to stop and rethink it
2) Stability, condition cleanse, might, fury, etc, are all there
3) It fits with cheesy greatsword builds and I don’t have many exotic weapons on my warrior
4) It has a very low skill threshold and needs little class knowledge to play
5) Its the first build I found and I stuck to it
6) It’s still stronger than my characters in other classes with better skills/traits/gear
7) It’s still performs as well as other characters I see in PUGs so I let nobody down
8) I’ll change it eventually but I haven’t got round to it yetSo take your pick but those reasons are all true for me.
So you are saying that your other classes are probably condition builds? Nothing wrong with playing how you want.
You said 3 – 5 so I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but please make sure you take at least one banner (Strength or Discipline), unless they are taken, and FGJ unless you are in a group where everyone is trying to range everything. Then you can be as selfish as you care to be.
Recipes, tokens to buy armors/weapons to salvage for ectos/mats/inscriptions, loot, and playing the PUG lottery for fun.
I would never recommend buying exotics from TP they are overpriced when you could get the same from just farming CoF P1 & 2 for a week and you would be pretty solid. Only thing that you would really need to buy are trinkets and sigils/runes.
Do it for kittens and giggles. Then you will know for sure.
So can you break it or not? Bit confused since Basilisk Venom change.
You can only escape the crystal with a teleport; Blink/Lightning Flash etc. Thieves are the only ones who have a teleport on demand with no CD with sword 2.
Occasionally it doesn’t work though?
I was reading around and it only works if you move further away from the crystal so if you are in the stack and you use infiltrator’s strike/shadow return while in the stack it doesn’t work from how I understand it. Then it is still finicky because steal works a good majority of the time.
About 2 or 3 weeks ago I got Infinity Loop then 2 days later I got Arah p2 recipe and I’ve only run Arah a few times
It is amazing how people don’t listen to mathematical facts I bet those people wouldn’t believe that 9.8 m/s = 32 ft/s then would call a physicist a scumbag for deriving the fact.
- Solo CoE Alphas with crystal escape on demand
I was told “Shake it Off!” can’t break crystals so no other class was able to solo Alpha.
I can skip just fine with any class. But I dunno, just relying on blinds to avoid random stray atks isn’t just doing it. Sometimes it’s the boss auto-atk cleaves or the little things that I usually just facetank on my warrior.
Someone around here posted that you only get 25% chance for boss to actually miss when blinded or something like that.
No one will notice if you step back for a few seconds to get health especially against trash mobs. With thief to get through the trash mobs I use S/P hit 5 3 and repeat as necessary. Doesn’t hurt to have bloodlust on pistol either.
Haven’t played elementalist in a while, but against trash you just step back and use 5(?) while in fire and just rain on them.
I have a warrior and a guardian soon to be 80. I have played on my wife’s Mesmer and elementalist the only other class I might want to try would be engineer. At the end of the day though I play my thief most effectively and enjoy it.
Yes I would play thief over any other class.
To my knowledge the only boss that can be dazed/stunned forever is Bjarl still thieves can use pistol whip or 4 with off hand pistol to cut down those defiant stacks to help prevent a boss from wiping a team…
What do you mean too many skill slots? Smoke screen has 3 uses blindness projectile block and stealth if you say blindness isn’t any good then there really is no point carrying this conversation on.
Thieves bring amazing DPS if you think they are too squishy you don’t know how to dodge.
I didn’t read everything but NEVER lie about not having done a dungeon most times that is a sure fire way to get booted from a dungeon.
I don’t know how many people legitimately try to help when someone says they are new or just carry said person through, but when I join a group and no one knows what to do I will give little explanations before fights so everyone has a general idea of what to do. We might wipe we may not, but practice doing it is the only way you will get around to learning it no matter how many guides you watch/read just jump in and if you drown you have 4 other players there to help.
When I did PvP I was full zerker d/d sb and I was very successful whether it was because I was against bad players or I just outclassed them.
Thief will always be a viable option when PvPing…
I’ve seen people say Thief can do more damage than Warrior. They’re gonna be getting a nice buff on the 10th of December with the change to their Vulnerability applied on crit trait. Pistol Whip might become popular
Pistol Whip is already popular I thought?
Gnat I think I have played with you before I will run through it with you if you want. I remember most of the paths and skips I just don’t play it often enough to say that I am really good at them.
I have a thief and warrior getting a guard to 80 pretty soon as well.
I like how the guard said what are you in rares?
No don’t have money for that. Ping greens….
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Down for Maintenance:
Utilities are disabled.
Master Race:
The only Elite skill a player can use is from their character’s race.
Well I figure this thread is dead so I won’t be posting here anymore /:
I have been informed that there are NA and EU servers, but as atse said you are an elitist for wanting only level 80 people.
End of Times:
Players get randomly selected for haste. Players must complete dungeon in allotted time. At the allotted time health gets reduced to 75% maximum. At 2 minutes over allotted time 50%. 3 minutes over 25%. 4 minutes over 50% health with the person doing the least amount of damage dead, 2 random people are selected for haste. 6 minutes over 75% health with 2 lowest damage output players dead. When the timer reaches 7 minutes over allotted time all players are revived gambit is removed.
Endgame:
End of Times, Troll Mode, Lava Floor, Infinity Mode, MVP, Butterfingers, I can’t see!, and Share the Health activated. No wipes allowed. Out of Combat regen allowed, 10 healing abilities allowed.
Mathematical! (Reward = Reward + Reward * .5)(1.5x?):
Simple math equations are randomly displayed on the screen 3/1 press the skill that will give the correct answer skill will do 2x damage.
It is too late for this lol…
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Hard Mode (One random gambit is added; 3x rewards)
Random/all enemies have perma haste, deal 1.5x damage, players have 75% normal health. Party can wipe once. Voting initiates to restart dungeon with Hard Mode gambit or remove gambit and complete dungeon from last WP.
Breaking Bad (Other gambits can not be activated with):
Upon completion of dungeon players “fight” each other. Players get ranked on how much damage they did to other players. 1st gets 2.5x rewards 2nd 2x 3rd 1.5×.
Share the Health:
All healing skills are negated. Regen doesn’t help/hurt players. The team gets 2 lives. Everyone’s health is added together and is like that of a boss’s health pool. When the health pool is close to depletion whichever player gets downer/die they can be revived/WP and the health pool will fill back up minus the person who died health from total pool. Once lives are depleted defeated players are in spectator mode if the remaining players wipe everyone is revived all gambits are removed.
MVP:
Random player is chosen as MVP. This player does twice damage takes half damage to go down. If this player dies Everyone’s damage is halved, including MVP, but health is increased by 10%. If MVP dies >3 times MVP gambit is removed all stats return to normal.
Butterfingers:
Perma weakness.
Finish Him!:
Players have X health can be chosen by instance owner from list of 1000, 2.5k, 5k. Everyone in the group must hit an enemy 10 times before it dies. Skills such as 100 Blades accounts for 1 hit. If a player loses their health pool they are dead for the rest of the dungeon. Bosses have to be hit 30 times by each surviving player to kill it. Range attacks are reflected to the user for 50 damage and do not count towards the counter. Healing skills are removed. Regen skills hurt the player for 10 damage per second.
I can’t see!:
Random player is selected for blindness every 10 seconds. Blindness lasts 8 seconds.
Will there be dungeon specific gambits or just general case?
Troll Mode:
Cave troll randomly spawns at one boss in the dungeon.
Fire fight:
All melee is half damage.
Lava floor:
Must keep moving otherwise burn damage.
Infinity Mode:
Mobs spawn infinitely at 2 random bosses.
Easy Mode: (Rewards are halved; Other gambits can not be activated)
Everything in dungeon has half health.
Friendly Fire:
Too close to an ally auto attack will hurt them half damage.