Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

Welcome to my – maybe last – attempt to sort this bug out!

As you should know the mesmer profession has a big issue with its berserker illusion. (brief: it does not hit consistently and it does reduced damage)

But let me begin from the start..
After the 15th November patch it was the first time the berserker began to behave badly and it needed some time until it was fixed. This is one thread where we gathered information about this bug (and others): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Overview-of-mesmer-bugs-after-patch/first#post765918 (it says 6 month ago, but that’s not correct!! it is indeed from last year)
And here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/iberserker-doing-significantly-less-damage/first
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Mesmer-Damage-Nerf/first

I think the 14th December fix repaired the berserker? https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-December-14-2012/first#post1061889

As the berserker was broken the first time the devs told us it wasn’t easy to find out what happened to him, but they finally managed to fix it. ^^ (If I remember right it had something to do with its whirl)

Then we had a “properly working” berserker again for 1.5 month until the 28th January Update (correct me anyone, if that’s not the right date) and you broke him again!!!

Now nearly six month have passed and you were still not able to fix it????

If it was intentional to nerf the berserker, you should have said that, but instead Jason King acknowledged it as a bug: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-illusionary-zerker-Bug-Report/page/2#post1696781 (again not sure, if the date “2 month ago” is right, I think the forum software does not display the dates correctly)

There are a lot of threads that try to show you the bug and got some attention, but your communication with the mesmers it’s not the best. (I try to be nice :-))
For example:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Soo-iZerker-didn-t-get-fixed/first#post1553014
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-skill-issues/first#post2142515
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Phantasmal-Berserker-issue/first#post2118508
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/illusionary-berserker-s-damage/first#post2092710

And here we got some communication, but the statements were confusing, we didn’t receive any help and since the last time someone spoke to us there was just…. nothing..
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Did-phantasmal-zerker-get-fixed-this-patch/first

What do you want us mesmers to do? We will not rest until you fixed it…

Here are other threads that want to provide you with information:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/A-little-iBeserker-data/first#post2186749
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/What-s-wrong-with-Zerkie/first#post1808737


I tried to stay only with the berserker bug because I think that is the most annoying bug that HAS to be fixed right now.
You could fix it temporary (e.g. + 10 % more damage or whatever would be appropriate) to show respect and care to your mesmers until you fix the real issue.

But.. I have to inform you there are a few more bugs (and I don’t think of the old ones that never got fixed):
1. Please talk with us about the bounce change.. is it working as intended? (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Major-bug-with-Bouncing-skills-mechanic/first)
2. The illusions have another problem… sometimes they do nothing, just stand there until they are dead. =( (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-illusionary-Berseker-bug-report-2-0/first#post2169494)

And here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Game-breaking-mesmer-bugs-nerfs-issues/first

Please talk to us and fix the mesmer, PLEASE! <3

Navi

(edited by Navi.7142)

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Stormcrow.7513

Stormcrow.7513

+1 to all this.

i7 3770k oc 4.5 H100i(push/pull) 8gb Corsair Dominator Asus P877V-LK
intel 335 180gb/intel 320 160gb WD 3TB Gigabyte GTX G1 970 XFX XXX750W HAF 932

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

…. Don’t worry they’ll fix it in the major patch at the end of the month, is what we have hoped for every month since introduction… Anet… c’mon is your QA doing that badly?

Johnny The Gray
GASM’s Bunker Mesmer

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: rsegames.3916

rsegames.3916

The real problem is how they are doing things now….

They would just: “Is this a problem with RNG boxes giving something usefull for once to the players? No? Well, MOVING ON!” (with Trahearne voice)

While i know that engies and necros have some (sorry, a lot) of issues since launch, its sad to see in the mesmer case something that worked and now is just broken.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Sorrow.7384

Sorrow.7384

Excellent list. If this bugs you as much as me, please update your thread to add the constant Obstructed issues/bugs since the “siege nerf”. It was lazily implemented many months ago and if there is a hill in between your target you will not be able to hit them.

Same with the glass on Kyhlo at the Clock Tower and Greatsword. You can’t hit that glass.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

I tried to stay only with the berserker bug because I think that is the most annoying bug that HAS to be fixed right now.

Imo the bounce and clone targeting issues are more annoying/dangerous - that might be a question of personal preference and playstyle though. As I’m doing a lot of PvE in different zones, I have severe issues with critters, yellow mobs and inanimate objects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0918gFXVht8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T6nPo5jJuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SYHmS93Ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WUJuwQJH9Y

Iruwen Evillan, Human Mesmer on Drakkar Lake

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

Jon, do you need more information in that particular thread here?
How can we help you still more?

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Swim.6830

Swim.6830

I am 100% sure amongst all the pages they confirmed that the dmg is just a visual bug, i.e. on low priority list it seems. You will not be able to kill anything faster when it’s fixed.

About the irregularities, I agree it should hit properly and about time to be fixed too.

Zwim Elementalist
Consigliere
The Dragoon Brotherhood

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: JosieMach.3052

JosieMach.3052

i hate it too It really gets annoying that my clones just stand there and do nothing while i’m fighting. Also the fact that you move a little if you summon 2 clones is very annoying.

Is it so hard for anet to just give us an answer or at least let us know you’ve seen this post?

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Sigmatics.7056

Sigmatics.7056

Please fix this.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: overlordchin.7583

overlordchin.7583

I actually stopped using the extra bounce trait b/c the bouncing seems so worthless now. As for the zerker I never played GS when it wasnt broken so I’ve only ever known the current gimpy incarnation of it. I would love to see it buffed a little bit to work as you guys stated it once did.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: LameFox.6349

LameFox.6349

It really gets annoying that my clones just stand there and do nothing while i’m fighting.

Maybe they have the same AI as necro minions. Sometimes they’ll just sit around for up to ~10s before attacking something, even if I’ve used the same skill/s that triggers them to attack almost every other time (hell by then I’ve used most of my skills).

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

Illusionary Mariner is broken as well. When it comes close to anything that resembles a shore, it stops doing anything at all. Eventually because the water doesn’t end where we see it end but it has an area that’s considered water or something which ends too early.

Iruwen Evillan, Human Mesmer on Drakkar Lake

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Umbra Eight.3651

Umbra Eight.3651

Good thread. It’s the new bounce logic that’s pretty much stopped me from playing at all, I just occasionally check these forums or log on checking for a patch.

I like much of your content ANet, but if your core mechanics make it very frustrating to play (yes) I’m not going to stick around to see any of it.

Please give this the attention it deserves.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Jeremiah Lee.2764

Jeremiah Lee.2764

Live Response QA

Please see this link/thread that Jon Peters posted to:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Did-phantasmal-zerker-get-fixed-this-patch/1951302

If you have another issue, please search for that issue in bug forums and add post. Each issue should have it’s own thread.

Thank you.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

That didn’t resolve the issue, but thanks anyway and hopefully you will investigate more and believe the mesmer players that insist that this is not the only bug that the berserker currently has. (Remember the loot issue and you’ll see that players can easily find out when something isn’t working alright.)

There is a reduced damage and a misbehaving that the berserker when he was properly working(#) does not have.
(#) compared to the beserker after launch and in between the last fix of his first bug (December 2012) and the last berserker breaking update (January or February 2013). Or do you want to tell us that he is now working as intended and he wasn’t before (as everything was normal for the mesmer players and no one complained about the berserker)? (Because there are a lot of differences of berserker’s behavoiurs bugged and unbugged, not just that the damage floaters are not properly displayed!)

Or that he has been nerfed?

(edited by Navi.7142)

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Noince.7364

Noince.7364

It seems none of the devs even believe/know what is actually wrong with izerker and keeps saying floater issue. GG.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Swim.6830

Swim.6830

It seems none of the devs even believe/know what is actually wrong with izerker and keeps saying floater issue. GG.

If you are on the receiving end of the damage you will see it’s really a floater issue.

Zwim Elementalist
Consigliere
The Dragoon Brotherhood

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Noince.7364

Noince.7364

If you are on the receiving end of the damage you will see it’s really a floater issue.

Dam, I guess all the Mesmers in the thread needs to get their IQ checked then. Including the person who mentioned it in SotG.

Attachments:

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Zoser.7245

Zoser.7245

It seems none of the devs even believe/know what is actually wrong with izerker and keeps saying floater issue. GG.

If you are on the receiving end of the damage you will see it’s really a floater issue.

We know that there are a floater issue. But the thing we now know is that pBerserker can not hit their 4 hits on his target. You have no warranty of how many hits will be. Between 0 and 4. It depends of some variables like the position of the pBerserker when start each attack, the position of their target, the motion of both, and perhaps even the blade whirling.

This explains why if the pBerserker begins his first attack above you, although you do not move, perhaps it will hit you only once if pBerserker has moved enough in their path, because you’ll be out of his second attack area. How many times it hit you depends of some variables.

All is in this page:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Did-phantasmal-zerker-get-fixed-this-patch/2217902

At the top JonPeters explains it.

(edited by Zoser.7245)

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: AndrewSX.3794

AndrewSX.3794

I just hope that devs are not starting to think like some other spvp players, aka: “Mesmer is fine/good/OP (depending on player) even with this bug, so it’s not a priority”.

Seafarer’s Rest EU – PvE/WvW – 8 × 80 chars.
Most used: Guard/Mes/War/Nec/Ele.
Yes, i use 5 chars at time. Because REASONS.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

I posted it in that other thread where Jon posted the last time (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Did-phantasmal-zerker-get-fixed-this-patch/page/10#post2221310), but anyway I quote myself..

“Just for the comparison (because there exist videos with properly working/ unbugged berserkers) how a berserker can behave and what damage he can do (yeah, there are skill differences and so on, but it shows that the berserker we now have is far from what he used to be):
- 8th of December 2012, nine month ago (after they repaired the berserker the first time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnHPdxJP518 (note: lvl 35 mesmer)
- 28th of December 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LENLSPBg2M0
- 8th of December 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGocFzGiy0I (skip to 8 min and begin there)
- 2nd of September 2012 (properly working since launch): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLJipvBTBE
- 21th of September 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpAveraXKao

Bugged:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OIxE09FP_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8vtwO_PvM

In my opinion it shows what we are talking about, but maybe there are even better videos that can be used to compare the bugged and unbugged berserker?"

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: digiowl.9620

digiowl.9620

Only speculating here, but the bugged videos give me the impression that the berserker is only hitting in its front arc rather than all around it.

Meaning thakittens arc of attack has been reduced from 360 to 90 degrees or there about.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

I cannot figure it out when exactly the bug started to reoccur (28th of January.. would be my guess.. or 26th February; I think the forum software has an issue with displaying the correct date for older threads), but can you please check if any of these “fixes” could have had an impact of the berserker’s inconsistent behaviour which we mesmer players still experience right now?

From the (general) patch notes from 28th of January:
“Fixed a bug that could cause rectangular skills to fail to hit the correct targets.”
→ Could that anyhow be the reason why berserker’s mechanic changed and hits now very inconsistently? Could the fix have affected him negatively by accident?

From the (mesmer) patch notes from 26th of February:
“Fixed a bug that caused some melee attacks to behave inconsistently.”
→ Which melee attacks? Can it be that the fix did not apply to the berserker and the underlying bug is still happening to the berserker?

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

The floater issue is just another addition to the entire problem.

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: AeroJavi.1687

AeroJavi.1687

From the patch:
Phantasmal Berserker: Fixed an issue that was causing the damage from this summoned phantasm to not display. Updated the berserker’s attack to make it more reliably hit a static target with all 4 of the attacks.
Did we get a real fix? What is the testing showing?

Mesmer is broken! Massive bug :-(

in Bugs: Game, Forum, Website

Posted by: Navi.7142

Navi.7142

I am okay with it.
Although the damage has been nerfed (= was not directly addressed by this fix), it is very good that the berserker’s mechanic seems to be repaired. Good to see all the damage numbers and that he now hits a lot more consistent again.

As my berserker after the fix only needed 6 full attacks to kill the heavy stationary golem in the pvp area compared to 8 full attacks before, it was definitely more than just the damage floater issue. ^^

In my opinion it is now worth again to use the gs.