Guild Wars 2

Woops! Tables turned

silvermember.8941:

They are always exceptions to the rule, just like newton’s law is not applicable once you hit subatomic level. (just as a heads up, I meant MMORPG not the whole spectrum of games).

I guess GW1 doesn’t fall into MMORPG. Silly me for believing it to be categorized as it is on, well, everything.

Also, if the fact that it’s dedicated PvP playerbase is considered “dead” yet still pulls in more interest in high-end PvP than it’s prodigy, I would agree that it’s an exceptional game.

Yaro.3251:

Achilles.2197:

Where can I send this Dev a thank-you note? Or a fruit basket?

I thought you don’t like zergfests. What do you care about WvW and ppt?

Who said I care about WvW and ppt? I don’t want the name of my favorite game-mode being ripped to shreds by zerglings pretending to do it. If they want to dress-up and run around pretending to be something they aren’t they should wait a few more weeks, Halloween is just on the horizon

renmei.3102:

Please do continue posting old grievances in the match up thread instead of your own blog where I could ignore it. This is fascinating stuff~ I have a riveting tale of my old WoW guild leader I could share as well!

If that’s the case we need to delete 96% of the posts in this thread and/or all threads.

Vlad.7529:

Seigfried.5938:

Burl.9567:

Seigfried.5938:

SoR, do you guys need more oceanics? You guys WP’d all our keeps, including garri.

You stopped showing up. Not our problem. You had no problem earlier in the week.

we did as usual, but couldn’t battle your all call

Lol sorry to break it to you.. but you guys are the only 1s who have something called an all call.

Bullkitten. When I served time (yes I’m comparing it to prison) in TSYM they did regular all-calls that were punishable by probation/Gkick for not showing up. I’m sure they didn’t invent the “all-call” either.

JQ: DB SEA should just bandwagon to Maguuma so we have something to fight during that week

Mag: We don’t want no darn bandwagoners we want fightz

DB: cricket sounds

RazGerb.6173:

Congrats on making it to the gold league maguuma, hope you guys stay up there.

http://mos.millenium.org/na

Chris.3290:

Fuzzion.2504:

Welcome Bears to JQ

Welcome someone who left SoS you mean.

Fixed :p

Wombat.3510:

I have so much regen on my ranger that I don’t even have to worry about confusion. In most cases, I just keep firing in order to give my opponent a chance!

No you don’t. As of right now my condition mesmer’s confusion ticks for 2-3.5k each. So I call bullkitten

Where can I send this Dev a thank-you note? Or a fruit basket?

silvermember.8941:

Who cares if they are no pro players playing guild wars 2, I certainly don’t. If you need the validation of some random player to enjoy a game, well you got issues and lots of it.

From my experience pro players are the first ones to leave an MMORPG (moba they don’t becasue of the huge cash prizes), so them leaving is just repeating history.

Actually that’s very much wrong. Pro players from GW1 still play to this day (post-GW2-ocalypse).

silvermember.8941:

cool story brah.

Saying PvP is dead doesn’t suddenly make it more dead than it was the first month after release or the last 100k times someone said it.

Except it is.

Le Rooster.8715:

Achilles.2197:

I’m actually hoping Maguuma get’s 6th. Just because I want to farm them.

I’m hoping you stop making an appearance on our recruitment thread posting negative stuff about us

You can stay though if you post good propaganda to attract potential ballsy t1 guilds looking for a fight.

I never post negative things about SoS. I love SoS. Besides, you post in our T1 thread more than I do :P

Divinity.8041:

don’t kill clones, and also use range

clones don’t do damage, just find the right mesmer, call target and call someone else in to help, or simply use your power elsewhere.

really hard to beat a good mesmer 1v1 with this spec

Exactly. Its a dueling spec that will waste your time.

To the op, burst down the iduelist and phamtasmal mage from range if possible. If you can’t then dodge when the iduelist unloads and burst burst burst on the mes. If you can’t you need to find something else to cap or bunker

jportell.2197:

evilapprentice.6379:

jportell.2197:

Zetus.1476:

I’ve been noticing a build that’s virtually unkilleable (we’re talking needing around 3 people). Lots of condi damage, invisibilities and coming out of invis at full health.

How do you people deal with this? There’s no counter for invisibility and it’s chewing at my insides everytime I run into this build.

They don’t do much damage and they don’t cap a point… it’s basically a 4v5

In my experience, this is the far from the truth – they do very solid damage. running 10/0/0/30/30 S/D-shbow thief, they’re one of the few specs I have yet to figure out. Against equal skill level, I usually lose. Mind posting a spec so I can take a look at it?

its usually 20/20/30/0/0 they melt really fast to consistent condi pressure. It really isn’t that great if you have them on you team because they don’t actually cap a point. So you have to outlast and burst… They aren’t tanky at all.

I run 202030, have no troubles capping points, melt people, and 2780 armor. Insane condition cleanse, as well. Thanks

Bhawb.7408:

Dardamaniac.1295:

So sad..False hopes are bad…I wonder if even 15th oct will be the date…

This. This is why the devs can never post anything they are ever working on. This is why we never get dates. Because of posts like this. Congratulations.

Because waiting 4 months wasn’t long enough. Because the tiny 4k viewers turning into 1k isn’t sad. Because top players quitting is progress. Because the thousands of upset players isn’t enough. Because it’s so hashtagWorth

Lordrosicky.5813:

Marcos.3690:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Vamp Rook.7835:

Dardamaniac.1295:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/No-Balance-for-sept-17-oct-1-patches/first#post2781688

Wheres the balance changes?

Next update.

Why and when exaclty?Y sure, it hasnt been very long since we experience a balance patch….Sarcasm

Balance after pax. O wait sorry they meant after mlg. O wait sorry they mean balance changes after the patch after mlg

It’s either

a) invisible balance patch
b) balance after pax next year

Anet wouldn’t lie to its playerbase

We also have to be careful what we wish for. Do we even want a balance patch or will it just create more OP cheese?

At this point I dont even care anymore as long as I can play something that doesn’t spam conditions or clutter up the screen

The risk vs reward for ele is abyssmal.

Let me remind FA, when I was on SoS, you guys would take a full map queue zerg in EBG (80-90 people) and take SoS towers/camps/keep while TC was cherry picking what they wanted. You would also push SoS bl when your own bl was being taken by TC. I don’t feel sorry for you. I don’t feel bad for you. I don’t care that you’re upset it’s now happening to you. Edit: A prime example of why I don’t feel bad for you; I spent 2 hours personally (as in by myself) upgrading Durios and Umber. Running yaks. Buying/building siege. Scouting. Defending the camp from roamers. Etc. Within 2 minutes, a 90 man FA blob showed up, flipped Umber, flipped Durios, destroyed the siege I built, chased me down, killed me, and spammed emotes. Sucks to be you now, I guess. hashtagKarma

To SoS, though I still love you guys, we used to do the same thing to SBI and CD before the random matchups started. We always had blowouts against them, always had T3 towers that we packed full of siege and open field ACs. Every server does it. Stop talking bad about the server that’s doing it to you if you’re going to do it next week.

Gandarel.5091:

Fun fact: GW1’s competitive GvG scene had more than 10k dedicated players. And it was only 1 gamemode. Your 150 is pretty meaningless.

10k dedicated guilds*

Allie, you guys need to add observer mode akin to Guild Wars 1 observer mode. “Spectator mode” as it is in it’s current form is useless. The reason being, we have no way to watch high end matches. We should be able to watch high-end tpvp matches from anywhere in the world at any time.

Also, similar to the system in place with LoL, (I remember when it was first introduced with LoL, it was atrocious, so I understand it may take time), there needs to be better camera operations to the spectators. We should be able to scroll through the map with ease to follow action that’s relevant to us. I think there also needs to be a menu option like the Guild/Hero/Map/WvW/PvP options at the top of the screen for ease of access.

The best way to get more viewers is to make users aware! Little notification, late notification, or notification that’s hard to find is what’s currently hurting viewership more than anything. You guys need to be BLASTING us with links and information regarding spectating. LoL makes the entire game menu a giant link to spectating the high end matches complete with photos of the players, team icons for players to rep their favorite teams, youtube videos embedded, etc. There’s just so much you guys can do (and should be doing!).

Lastly, this is the most important. The game needs to be fun to play for the masses before anyone will enjoy watching it. I know this is a major generalization but it’s true and it’s important and I can’t stress it enough. We need strong balancing, we need more game modes, we need more incentives and progression. Leagues for spvp/tpvp are needed to generate the interest.

-Zero (Achilles)

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

Achilles.2197:

Tier 1 should have been its own league. TC imbalances t2

Well, we are listed ast T1 this week, for one thing.

We might surprise you.

Or kick yer yak’s kitten, or something like that.

JQ destroys TC. RNG putting you against SoR and BG tenporarily does not make TC tier1. TC is t2.

Tier 1 should have been its own league. TC imbalances t2

I’m actually hoping Maguuma get’s 6th. Just because I want to farm them.

grave of hearts.7830:

So what was that now on OL?
The most expencive double teaming in the history of wvw or just the most funny ninja cap in the history of wvw?
Havent seen so many golems wasted before……maybe with the exception of that server that lost 43 golems in the sm outer.

JQ is bored. JQ does silly things out of boredom.

As much as it pains me to say it… I miss you BG. And maybe you too SoR. But not as much.

Chris.3290:

Achilles.2197:

Aphs.9528:

Achilles.2197:

Aphs.9528:

Judgment week for the SOS Oceanics who think their the best during their time slot which all they do is run around hoping to PVD for free wxp and exp .All im going to say is good luck .

Are you a victim of their OCX +695.

You must be from maguuma

Actually im an ex SOS oceanic player that left them because of how unorganized they are and not willing to defend and i have a pic from oceanic prime time that proves my point that their not as good as they claim to be . Cya

I’m exSoS. I left because of the 6th week with TC. SoS OCX weren’t unorganized at all.

on a different note, way to pick a time to say hello Achilles LOL

Lol! It was just one of those moments xD

Aphs.9528:

Achilles.2197:

Aphs.9528:

Judgment week for the SOS Oceanics who think their the best during their time slot which all they do is run around hoping to PVD for free wxp and exp .All im going to say is good luck .

Are you a victim of their OCX +695.

You must be from maguuma

Actually im an ex SOS oceanic player that left them because of how unorganized they are and not willing to defend and i have a pic from oceanic prime time that proves my point that their not as good as they claim to be . Cya

I’m exSoS. I left because of the 6th week with TC. SoS OCX weren’t unorganized at all.

Refresh.4386:

oh Jade Quarry is in top 3? your zergs seem smaller then BG and SoR prove your selfs and destroy SoS home lands or maybe Tarnished Coast will take your spot in the big 3 (there trying hard to get people and overpower you)

LOL

Serebus.7314:

Obviously this dev was congratulating that gvg on esportz because gw2 is an esportz game with a large esport fan base for esportz

LOL

milo you’re so right. The addition of seasons akin to LoL seasons would help dramatically. There would be a sensible level of progression that we could focus on with end-of-season rewards. Sure, it’s what LoL uses, but it works so well. I also like the idea of the daily tourny-title.

Banzie.5248:

Few people from Mag asked for this I know ~~ So here you are.

http://imgur.com/a/mhYp4

Proof of the Anet dev attempting to stop a GvG.

Could have been that the dev worked on the original GW gvg and feels violated it’s being mocked in this game. Idk but that’s still no way for a dev to act.

Lenador.1436:

kitten away achilles and evlana your officially dead to me

awwwh I’m sorry your server’s implosion has you all torn apart. there’s always a spot for you on JQ, baby

To the FA Colonel necro I was just dueling in the ruins on FA bl, I’m so sorry I got dc’d. It was very close and all around a great fight.

Seigfried.5938:

Glad to see sanctum of runners instead of stacked quarry

Stackgate missing us already? <3

Aphs.9528:

Judgment week for the SOS Oceanics who think their the best during their time slot which all they do is run around hoping to PVD for free wxp and exp .All im going to say is good luck .

Are you a victim of their OCX +695.

You must be from maguuma

i’m going to bandwagon to your thread this week

Ugh… I love all my old SoS franz but … ouch. GL

besaah.2516:

you must have played in a different dimansion. cause last time i checked you could get into top 50 with cheesebuilds and little to no actual skill and if that didn’t work you could just buy a top 50 smurf. those leaderboards didn’t mean kitten. it’s basicly the same as saying you are top 100 in gw2.

You’re right that people bought alt accounts that were already in the top 50. However, do you see anyone buying accounts in the top 50 of this game? No.

There’s a reason.

Also, I find it difficult to compare a game with a top 10,000 guilds vs a game with a top… 8?

I just want a few simple things to make this format enjoyable

• Less chaos on the screen
• Rewards that actually mean something
• The ability to be useful and have fun playing any class (not necessarily any build)
• Better ranking system

It definitely happened. The infrequency of an unskilled player obtaining notable rank isn’t that relevant though. The thing is, in Heroes Ascent, teams were formed by the players prior to entering the matches. Unskilled players didn’t get picked for teams. They certainly didn’t get picked by winning teams, at least.

I do recall a terrible protection monk who was rank14 (out 15 total, which is HUGE). Im sure that particular player didn’t get his rank via monking though.

Yasha.5963:

Mathias.9657:

Teutos.8620:

GW2 has the best PvP and PvP balance from all other MMORPGs around there.

Please tell me you’re joking, couldn’t bother to read on.

Teutos is right, GW2 has the best balanced spvp among all MMORPGs (at least that I have played).

I am still waiting to hear what other mmorgs have better balanced spvp so I can laugh as well- because I can tell you that I DO laugh at the incessant whining about spvp balance on these forums- I laugh because I think kitten you should go and play such and such a game if you want to see the true meaning of terrible balance or devs that don’t care about pvp, or who don’t communicate with the players. Lol, in terms of spvp GW2 is a godsend among MMORGs.

What other mmo has balanced pvp worthy of an esport title? Um hello, Guild Wars 1 says hi

Current PvP Ranking System Rewards the Wrong People

How does ANET plan on revising ranks to give the prestige of high rank to those who earned it?

In Guild Wars 1 we had:

• Emote ranks as an exclusive reward for winning in high-end PvP. Heroes Ascent (Tombs of the Primeval Kings for you super old schoolers)

• Separate emotes for players in a ranked Guild for the GvG ladder (albeit this was introduced within the last year prior to GW2 release)

• Separate emote ranks for PvE’rs (Zaishen ranks, though anyone could easily obtain Zrank)

As of now, rank emotes mean nothing, give no indication of a player’s skill level, and are exploited and farmed via custom arenas. This leaves those who legitimately obtained their ranks with nothing.

Also, rank points are awarded for anything. You don’t have to win to obtain it, you don’t have to perform well, you don’t have to do anything other than show up and run around to eventually grind out a rank.

What we need is a rank ladder for wins, possibly tied to in-game performance (although that may not work, as it would discourage less aggressive roles). A new set of rank emotes to show off notable accomplishments in PvP, not just how much you were able to exploit the game or how much time you spent in it.

I play LoL when I want to play an esport.

Lastly, “shaving down” is a major understatement to what needs to be done. Last night in spamjoin there was a spirit ranger, 2 mesmers, 2 minion necros, and an engi all on 1 cap point. Im generally very good at following damage and action, but good Lord it was ridiculous. So much crap flying around the screen it made targeting impossible (I know this is supposedly getting addressed but…) being able to see what the kitten is going on is downright impossible also. I ended up just dropping null field on the cap point and sitting on the outside of it conjuring phantasms and picking off players trying to do the same. I know several of them were dying just because there was too much happening on their screens for them to keep up with.

Am I the only person who’s frustrated we were told the update would be October 1st and of course, it’s been pushed back 2 more weeks? Oh, but by showing my frustration now they won’t give any clarity on when these things will happen and we’ll get the “when it’s ready.”

At this point I don’t believe “when it’s ready” either. Sounds more like “if it’s ready.”

Rieselle.5079:

Achilles.2197:

You suggested they add something that was in GW1. (some type of energy or mana bar for powerful attacks). That is taboo

I think the dodging makes a big difference. I remember in gw1 i wrote a post pointing to sirlins article on how to achieve variety whilst still maintaining balance. One of his conclusions is that you need a robust set of universal defensive mechanics, which allow you to have a big variety of offensive mechanics without causing major balance problems.

Dodge and universal self heal goes a long way to solving gw1’s problem in this area.

That makes no sense man. We had monks. We also could kite for days since we didn’t get slowed down from being “in combat”

You suggested they add something that was in GW1. (some type of energy or mana bar for powerful attacks). That is taboo

5 pages and its tuesday? Pathetic.