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You make me laugh,instead of coming on the forum and cry for something that destroyed the economy FOR MONTHS being TOTALLY unlegit,kittened and one of the worst EXPLOIT i’ve ever seen,why don’t you just go and farm,youtube is very good,type on it gw2 gold and stop cry.

ABML Fix?

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i find it disgusting how anet still not fixed it after MONTHS,we have :
1)Economy going into the oblivion
2) Lack of people for every single kind of content but Multiloot
3)Tons of toxicity in the AB meta.

I seriously have no idea why this thing is still up,i just don’t

unbound magic reduced by 40%?

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Thanks anet. let people abuse the ab farm for months, Others who wish to earn gold without abusing the system you destroy.

Berryfarm had to be nerfed,free ascendent trinkets and tons of unbound magic for free everyday is just wrong THE SAME AS is wrong AB MULTILOOT AND THEY AREN’T NERFING IT.

Look at ectos : Stacks of ectos popping up on tp every minute because FUN.

I don’t know why they’re not nerfing it,this is just wrong,very very wrong.

Unlike you I had to actually earn the berries I got. Took time. How did you get Anet to give them to you for “free” did they just appear in your inventory when you logged in?
Look at ecto? really that’s your remark? go to gw2tp or gw2bltp look back half and year you will see ecto has been dropping for a long time waaaaaayy before berry farming came along. AB abuse is what contributes to the fall off ecto prices.

it seems you didn’t read a single word i typed.
w/e.

He read exactly what you typed:

Berryfarm had to be nerfed,free ascendent trinkets and tons of unbound magic for free everyday is just wrong

I also wondered why you were talking about stuff being free.

Saying free is just a figure of speech,open your mind like sometimes.

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Thanks anet. let people abuse the ab farm for months, Others who wish to earn gold without abusing the system you destroy.

Berryfarm had to be nerfed,free ascendent trinkets and tons of unbound magic for free everyday is just wrong THE SAME AS is wrong AB MULTILOOT AND THEY AREN’T NERFING IT.

Look at ectos : Stacks of ectos popping up on tp every minute because FUN.

I don’t know why they’re not nerfing it,this is just wrong,very very wrong.

Unlike you I had to actually earn the berries I got. Took time. How did you get Anet to give them to you for “free” did they just appear in your inventory when you logged in?
Look at ecto? really that’s your remark? go to gw2tp or gw2bltp look back half and year you will see ecto has been dropping for a long time waaaaaayy before berry farming came along. AB abuse is what contributes to the fall off ecto prices.

it seems you didn’t read a single word i typed.
w/e.

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Thanks anet. let people abuse the ab farm for months, Others who wish to earn gold without abusing the system you destroy.

Berryfarm had to be nerfed,free ascendent trinkets and tons of unbound magic for free everyday is just wrong THE SAME AS is wrong AB MULTILOOT AND THEY AREN’T NERFING IT.

Look at ectos : Stacks of ectos popping up on tp every minute because FUN.

I don’t know why they’re not nerfing it,this is just wrong,very very wrong.

Bots are everywhere and it's so sad.

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@Automa.

First of all.Yes their are tp bots and Goldsellers. They make through Flipping Gold and sell the Gold for RL Cash.

So consider an ACC costs 25-50 euro if it is a new and fresh one. BUT an lvl 80 empty character ACC costs on Black markets less then 10 Euro. Cause ppl dont like gw2 and want to get rid of their acc.

So thouse Flipper Gold sellers buy for 10 Euro an ACC. Flip on tp. Make Gold worth for 100 euro. Sell Gold for rl cash!

A Win situation of 90 Euro.

The account gets banned. They just buy another acc for 10 euro and make their profit of 100 Euro. The bot customisation doesnt change. Just the acc changes.

So ANEt can bann hundrets of ACCs. They will just buy another 200 acc and keep botting as long as they make profits.

U just have to deal with it. ANd stop flipping as a legal flipper.

Second. Their are more then 7 Million GW2 accs. Lets considre their are 1 Million active players left. Lets considere 100.000 ppl play at same time at any time. And 1000 of them are flippers like u who flip 18h a day. U flip with 1000 ppl who look like u for profitable flip items. on that item.

So u are not just fighting against never ending bots. U are fighting against a reasanable number of other flippers.

GL in ur task.

Indeed,and so far i still managed to make some profit out of it,thanks for the comment bro,i loved ur reply

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So this is over a few hours? Ofc you’ll have more orders above you. I seriously doubt it’s one guy either.

Also, you overbid by 1-2c, but others that do it are, potentially bots? I don’t think this thread is holding much water anymore.

what part of i get overbid by 1c as 11 offer number for hours over and over again on 200 items instantly you don’t get? is that so hard to understand?

Then report it and move on? I don’t quite understand the point your thread has gotten to. There’s actually no point to it, all people can tell you, and have done, is to report it and move on?
You’d be surprised how quick people can over bid 1c on things they want, as I said, I basically nursed the TP for an hour or two, 1c overbidding for 200+ random t6 mats I needed.

The point was to get advices and thought about that,which i’m still having tbh.
There’s a huge difference between flipping the tp,zoning it or fast bidding on 20 items tracking them instead of tracking and instabid on 200.brother.

yes but you can have 200 people insta bid on 1 item each 40 on 5 or 20 on 10 each it dont have to be like you say 1 bot.
Just a bunch of regular people.

You want advice insta buy and you wont have this problem ever again.

let’s put it this way(i’m trying to get you on my point as much as i can)there’s this item that is refilled on tp VERY VERY VERY often,1)do i bid on this item a number of 11 and then refresh 100 times per day or 2)do i bid on this item 55-66-77-88 of them and just check it out when someone counterbids me?
Luckily this “farm” isn’t known that much and since i’m doing this for like 2-3 months i know almost every bidder that does it,if you check the image there’s the 250 ones,and i’m so kitten nerd that i wrote on a paper the timeline he goes on tp and bids studying his movements for 3 months.
Now : i do also realize,cuz i’m not stupid,i believe,that to make it as much believable as possible you gotta try it in first person,well i did for 3 months and i’m 100% positive it’s a bot.
About the Instabuy,that ain’t the way flip works m8,just saying uh

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So this is over a few hours? Ofc you’ll have more orders above you. I seriously doubt it’s one guy either.

Also, you overbid by 1-2c, but others that do it are, potentially bots? I don’t think this thread is holding much water anymore.

what part of i get overbid by 1c as 11 offer number for hours over and over again on 200 items instantly you don’t get? is that so hard to understand?

Then report it and move on? I don’t quite understand the point your thread has gotten to. There’s actually no point to it, all people can tell you, and have done, is to report it and move on?
You’d be surprised how quick people can over bid 1c on things they want, as I said, I basically nursed the TP for an hour or two, 1c overbidding for 200+ random t6 mats I needed.

The point was to get advices and thought about that,which i’m still having tbh.
There’s a huge difference between flipping the tp,zoning it or fast bidding on 20 items tracking them instead of tracking and instabid on 200.brother.

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So this is over a few hours? Ofc you’ll have more orders above you. I seriously doubt it’s one guy either.

Also, you overbid by 1-2c, but others that do it are, potentially bots? I don’t think this thread is holding much water anymore.

what part of i get overbid by 1c as 11 offer number for hours over and over again on 200 items instantly you don’t get? is that so hard to understand?

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just got back from work,relisted everything and right after 2 mins all the items got overbid by 1c by the same guy haunting me

I wanna die.

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Yes, or it was a bot. Innocent until proven guilty allows for a lot of guilt.
How difficult would it be to track the exact same bid response rate over an extended period of time?

THAT IS WHAT BUGS ME

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Try bidding the item for like 90% of the price for a second before cancelling, if the bots falls for it, buy all of the loot and make them lose money.
If that bot has some sort of fail safe against it well, i guess reporting and waiting is the only solution.

that is what i’m doing,i locked all the bids to a price you will never get profit from,actually u’ll lose tons of gold,i’m losing gold too at the moment but i don’t care and i can totally afford it,sadly not many people,still,,i want this bot gone cuz it’s totally unhealty

ps : Oh and of course he bid amount of 11 at that insane price on the whole 200 items

Nope,it’s not a bot ^^""""

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if u were listing items /bidding war for 18h i would think u are a bot too…

report the bot and move on….if its still there 1 month later report again, is on Anet hands , losing sanity and health , because a bot is the worse thing u can do

that’s exactly what happened with the huge difference that i took breaks like cigarettes,going out for 30 mins,escorting dog for businesses etc while he stood there,basically i reported the same issue 1 month ago and till now it’s the same happening

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ok let me get this as clear as possible,i ain’t coming from the moon and i know that are brazilions of players flipping the tp but let me ask you this :

I have 200 items listed on the tp,manually clicking them one by one and overbid by 1c,the moment i’m done(about 20 min) i cancel the previous bid,refresh the tp and INSTA i got overbid ON ALL THE 200 items by the same amount “11” for 18 hours Instantly,what are exactly the odds?i think it’s very weird since there are also other people bidding on the same items but with a different number.Anyway despite the troll and non constructive comments we will all have on forums because people love to troll other people thinking they’re superiors somehow i’ve reported the issue with proofs because in my opinion this is clearly an exploit used by a bot.

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If you think you’re the only one flipping, boy you are wrong. Very wrong.

i won’t even answer to your poor comment.

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And how do you know it’s a bot and not just a series of other random players who just happened to post a bid right after you? The TP is global after all.

I have no proof that it’s not a bot, but you also don’t have enough evidence to say it is a bot.

All you can do is report instances you think are botters and let ANet look at the evidence. And realize that ANet bans botters in waves to reduce the chances of them figuring out what got them caught so that they make their macros better and avoid detection.

well,on 200 items all of 200 items for 18 hours straight got overbid 1c insta everytime

If it’s not a bot then it’s Jesus and i guess it really exists afterall.

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Tip: Don’t be cheap and don’t overbid by 1 copper. A good rule i use is to increase the bid by 10% of the item’s buy value (eg. 1g = increase by 10s, 100g = increase by 10g). In the end, you still pay less than instant buyout value.

While it is an issue, I’m sure they are working hard to resolve it.

It’s not about being cheap bro,the thing is that even if(let’s say the item is around 25s order and 30s buyout each) i overbid by 4s he will still be there overbidding 1c,you get my point?

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Hello everyone,let me tell you a fun story.

About 2 months ago i started to flip the tp and i discovered a good way of farm,sadly this farm is basically controlled by a bot and i reported all the infos i could gather to the support,they told me that they will send my report to the supporters that deals with bots and i was happy,today i went again to flip the tp and hell if i’m wrong,this bot basically stood there overbidding me of 1c INSTA everytime for like (AND IM NOT EVEN JOKING,i was off from work and so angry i just stood near my pc for like 18 HOURS straight) 60-70 times in a day,the result is that i got carpal tunnel and the one that is using this bot goes out having fun with friends while the same bot does the whole work for him,now,i’m not angry with the bot itself because THEY EXISTS and PEACE,i’m so frustrated and disappointed to the WHOLE gw2 support community,as i said back there i reported this disgusting abuse of exploit 1 month ago and i did it today too with more proofs of it : the result is that the bot is,even in this EXACT moment neverending bidding and support gave me the SAME exact response i got 1 month ago.

Note : This is not a rage topic but it’s just a request of Help and advices.

What should i honestly do ? drop a game i paid with irl money (Core + exp) because it’s surrounded by bots and support basically at this point,let me just say it, DOES NOT care or should I just go ahead knowing that I could farm the tp (working 14 hours a day) if this squalid thing didn’t exist or at least someone cared and was nerfed to the root?

Arena Net when does Halloween event stop?

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Tomorrow. If not tomorrow then next Tuesday.

Y but still there are people that can play only some time and to get most of the event they need to know when it actually ends

I mean,would be great to know the exact expire of the event.

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2 days and half of halloween,nobody is doing multiloot and look ecto price,spiked 3s already and keep going up

Pls anet wake up

It’s also a possibility that the prices are rising due to Anet taking “a step back” from market controls per JS’s message a few weeks ago.

or that the 2 things are walking together…who knows,the only thing that is sure atm is that people are farming lab instead of multiloot and in 3-4 days ectos spiked 5s.

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2 days and half of halloween,nobody is doing multiloot and look ecto price,spiked 3s already and keep going up

Pls anet wake up

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Is it just me? Even at “prime” – the evening it seems there are less and less players. Wanted to do various meta events at the hot maps, but this and the past evenings the maps were pretty much empty. One commander here and there to organize single events, but not really a “meta” going on. That’s pretty sad…

Is it just me ?

u gotta know that every hour 80% of the whole community is in AB doing multiloot because free gold.

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I already answered you about making raw gold from :
Random piece of equipment of at least Masterwork rarity.
Random piece of equipment of at least Fine rarity.

Let’s do a game,tonight i will go for a run of 50 chests and tell u how much raw gold i make from selling all the crap to merchant.

About the gold and kit i had to post it to stop you from being such a kitten

DONE,OPENED 45 CHESTS (9 MAPS) AND GOT AROUND 4.5G SELLING GREEN AND BLUE TO MERCHANT BUT I GUESS I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES THIS INSTEAD OF SALVAGING THEM IN MATS RIGHT?

so basically let’s say i’m just the 10% of people doing this through multiloot,need to make 10 runs to get 4g and 5 runs to make 2g.there u are ur raw gold.

I don’t believe you , 4,5 gold by selling Blue , Green items to merchant from 45 Grand Exalted Chest . Let’s do the math : Blue item sell for few coin , Green sell for 1,5 Silver each ( average ) but let’s just say that you alway get green item when open chest . You must have :
4.5 / 0.015 = 300 ( Green Items ) .
So if i count blue item , The number will be above 300 because i don’t have data of blue , green drop . I think you must have 350 items including green and blue to get 4.5 gold from merchant .
DOES ANYONES HERE BELIEVE THAT HE GETS 300 GREEN ITEMS FROM 45 GRAND EXALTED CHEST ?
YOU’RE A LIAR BRO .

Wait,i said 4.5g from everything i sold to merchant which includes everything except rares which i turned into ectos,big help was given from the bags and meta event.
I srsly we missing the point here,everyone is sharing opinions and fact not calling someone else liar because cant admit this farm is wrong,unlegit and for noobs that have no idea how to make gold using 10% of the brain they got.no wonder why people keep farm this,because its easy and requires 0 effort.
Wanna know why im so disgusted,because i used my brain and my sweat to make gold and the fact that 80% of players make their legendaries (an item that shoild be accessible only to the few that worked for it and DESERVED it)totally disappoints me,not counting the fact that every hour the whole community disappers because pressing F and make gold is the reason of playing gw2.
Abml is wrong but thats just my opinion

the tl;dr version:
QQ my gold doesn’t feel worth as much anymore. pls nerf so I can feel rich again.

actually it does since it’s a good amount and i’m definitely not QQ since i didn’t even open the thread myself,i’m sharing my opinions which are other people opinions too,about the nerf yeah,it has to be nerfed for the many reason i posted above.

No wonder,u coming from lol community?your comment doesn’t say otherwise.

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I already answered you about making raw gold from :
Random piece of equipment of at least Masterwork rarity.
Random piece of equipment of at least Fine rarity.

Let’s do a game,tonight i will go for a run of 50 chests and tell u how much raw gold i make from selling all the crap to merchant.

About the gold and kit i had to post it to stop you from being such a kitten

DONE,OPENED 45 CHESTS (9 MAPS) AND GOT AROUND 4.5G SELLING GREEN AND BLUE TO MERCHANT BUT I GUESS I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES THIS INSTEAD OF SALVAGING THEM IN MATS RIGHT?

so basically let’s say i’m just the 10% of people doing this through multiloot,need to make 10 runs to get 4g and 5 runs to make 2g.there u are ur raw gold.

I don’t believe you , 4,5 gold by selling Blue , Green items to merchant from 45 Grand Exalted Chest . Let’s do the math : Blue item sell for few coin , Green sell for 1,5 Silver each ( average ) but let’s just say that you alway get green item when open chest . You must have :
4.5 / 0.015 = 300 ( Green Items ) .
So if i count blue item , The number will be above 300 because i don’t have data of blue , green drop . I think you must have 350 items including green and blue to get 4.5 gold from merchant .
DOES ANYONES HERE BELIEVE THAT HE GETS 300 GREEN ITEMS FROM 45 GRAND EXALTED CHEST ?
YOU’RE A LIAR BRO .

Wait,i said 4.5g from everything i sold to merchant which includes everything except rares which i turned into ectos,big help was given from the bags and meta event.
I srsly we missing the point here,everyone is sharing opinions and fact not calling someone else liar because cant admit this farm is wrong,unlegit and for noobs that have no idea how to make gold using 10% of the brain they got.no wonder why people keep farm this,because its easy and requires 0 effort.
Wanna know why im so disgusted,because i used my brain and my sweat to make gold and the fact that 80% of players make their legendaries (an item that shoild be accessible only to the few that worked for it and DESERVED it)totally disappoints me,not counting the fact that every hour the whole community disappers because pressing F and make gold is the reason of playing gw2.
Abml is wrong but thats just my opinion

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On average salvaging is better than merchant

on average salvage is still gamble which people do not like to do.

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Bro listen…a lot of players carry with them merchant express which is more likely seen at the endchest in every ABML,do you know what it means?it means that tons of players sell green/blue and white right to the merchant for RAW gold(like sw cf),and nope,green items are not just 1 silver very often they’re a little bit less than the price on TP so it’s around 1.6×.
Ps: I have copper fed salvage kit along with 13k gold cash in my wallet but yeah,thanks for your advice.and for your info i’ve done ab like 10 times in a life,stopped right after realizing it’s broken and totally unlegit.

Who care if you have 13k gold , and a copper salvage kit ? Doing AB 10 times in a life and still worry about RAW GOLD in AB/ML . You must be very good at school bro .
Now , i’m the one who doing homework so answer my question : How can you create more than 2.25 RAW GOLD for me from 50 Grand Exalted Chest ?
Answer it or correct me if i’m wrong and we’ll continous discuss .

I already answered you about making raw gold from :
Random piece of equipment of at least Masterwork rarity.
Random piece of equipment of at least Fine rarity.

Let’s do a game,tonight i will go for a run of 50 chests and tell u how much raw gold i make from selling all the crap to merchant.

About the gold and kit i had to post it to stop you from being such a kitten

Done,opened 45 chests (9 maps) and got around 4.5g selling green and blue to merchant but i guess i’m the only one that does this instead of salvaging them in mats right?

so basically let’s say i’m just the 10% of people doing this through multiloot,need to make 10 runs to get 4g and 5 runs to make 2g.there u are ur raw gold.

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Those people who said “horde them in your bank” while I said sell them. Now I’m enjoying all the gold I have received from them (literally hundreds) while they are worried at the stock price plummeting and their items being useless.

I hedged my bets and sold half of them and stashed the other half in my bank so I came out ahead regardless of what happened.

I also bought one of those 250-ecto gamble boxes only to realize the achievement required me to buy 100 of them. I turned 250 ectos into 50 ectos and 50 gold, which after the trading post tax turned out to be current market price.

A solution to the ecto glut exists:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tarrktun_Personal_Delivery_Portal

it’s gamble,and it’s not a solution.

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Do you sell greens white and blue on TP or Merchant to avoid the permablock happening right after u sell around 15 items on tp so fast?That for me is 100% Raw gold.

Ok , let’s make it clear . For example : I open 50 grand chest , i have 50 rares item . If salvage all i might received 50 ectos ( Calculating based on wiki https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Glob_of_Ectoplasm/salvage_research )
Now with the price of ectos on TP is 30 silvers ( avarage ),
50 × 0.30 = 15 gold
The tax is 15% so i received 12.75 gold from other player .
2.25 Gold vanished forever from economy system.
Now , the main question : how many green , blue , white item you must sell to create 2.25 RAW GOLD ? Let’s say that all blue , white and green item can sell for 1 silver , you have to sell 225 items to create 2.25 gold . Do you think you can get 225 green , blue , white items in a simple run AB/ML ?
Please , help me create more than 2.25 raw gold so i can see the fallen of the market , the dark side of Trading Port , the end of GW2 ….. !
P/S : i alway salvage all white , blue , green items with Copper-Fed-Salvage Kit . Someone said that if you combine green items in Mystic Forge you could get some rares item but i don’t care , i don’t want to waste time . I think you should buy a Copper-Fed-Salvage Kit , it’s good for your knowledge =))

Bro listen…a lot of players carry with them merchant express which is more likely seen at the endchest in every ABML,do you know what it means?it means that tons of players sell green/blue and white right to the merchant for RAW gold(like sw cf),and nope,green items are not just 1 silver very often they’re a little bit less than the price on TP so it’s around 1.6×.
Ps: I have copper fed salvage kit along with 13k gold cash in my wallet but yeah,thanks for your advice.and for your info i’ve done ab like 10 times in a life,stopped right after realizing it’s broken and totally unlegit.

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it is so fun how u guys defend something so broke only cuz it gives you free money because EASY

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I totally agree,never seen ecto price going so low,i don’t get why this Multiloot it’s not nerfed yet,i remember when it popped up sw cf it got nerfed like 1 hour later when people jumped from map to map and it was no less profitable than multiloot.Multiloot instead is going on for MONTHS and nobody in Anet takes action against it,it’s breaking the ecto price,the sigil/runes price/the rare items price/the materials for ascends etc,it’s just destroying the market.

So if some item’s price drop that mean " destroying the market " . Wow , such wow . Let’s me tell you what exactly destroy the economy , that’s is RAW GOLD , and do you know where’s it come from ? Daily ( 2 gold ) , Sell item to NPC , TEQ ( 1 gold ) , open chest ( few Silver ) , Convert gem to gold …
Now , looking back at AB/ML , does it generate any RAW gold or just items that you can sell on TP for gold ? And each times you sell somethings on TP , 15% gold vanished from game forever ? Is it good or bad ?
Do you remember when gem price was 150 gold / 400 gem ? Now it’s 100 gold / 400 gem . Your game is saved by AB/ML . So stop blaming and sell all your stack of ectos , you greedy skirt .
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it’s just opinions right?everyone comes here talking about opinions,what i’ve saw so far is that since multiloot is up important materials dropped drastically in price and i don’t like that,now about the RAW gold,let’s say i farm 50s of junk items i sell to the merchant doing the multiloot and multiplied for thousands of people doing it daily,where’s ur god now?
The thing is my dear “skirt” that multiloot isn’t helping at all the whole economy,but HEY that’s just my opinion.

Edit : and i didn’t quite mention the amount of RAW gold you get by selling green/blue/white to merchant.

The salvage cost is much more than raw gold you received from AB/ML . You only receive “raw gold” from chest ( Noxious Pod ,Heirloom …. ) , and it’s just few silver . Now answer me , What’s kind of junk item which you can sell for 50 silvers from AB/ML ? Because the last times i checked on wiki , there’s no junk item drop from " Grand Exalted Chest " .
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grand_Exalted_Chest
Oh , i forgot . You can create a huge amount of " Raw gold " by selling everything you received to NPC , sell White , Blue , Green , Yellow items , sell ectos after salvage yellow item , sell exotics item , sell Orb , Diamon …. SELL EVERYTHINGS TO NPC . What’s a smart ideal . I suggest that you should sell your ascended gear and legendary weapon to NPC , it will make our game great again)
You know what ? I’m tired with people who don’t have any basic knowledge about economy systems like you . You don’t even know what’s good or bad for the game , you only care about yourself . Correct me if i’m wrong , please . Or else , please be quite and let’s Anet do their jobs , they know what’s they’ve done and the result .

Do you sell greens white and blue on TP or Merchant to avoid the permablock happening right after u sell around 15 items on tp so fast?That for me is 100% Raw gold.

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It is pretty clear that ML is becoming a real cancer in this game. It should have been removed a long time ago but for some reason they let it continue. Hopefully they will remove it soon before the damage is long lasting.

It is pretty obvious that getting 60 rares in 20 minutes is over the top.

And what is your reasoning for this aside from “muh feels” and/or “Muh ecto hoard value”?

His reasoning is a simple comparison of every other activity in the game. Unless you have incredible luck at SW chest farm you won’t get this, but its guaranteed from ML. And just forget about the rewards from any other activity (fractals, dungeons, world bosses, WvW, PvP…..). Thats a pretty kitten good reason to say that the rewards from ABML are extremely unbalanced and need to be brought in line.

Totally agree with u pal

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Only time SW chest farm got nerfed was when there were like 20 chests spawning right outside Amber.

They nerfed it by reducing the chest amounts spawning there as well as crest drops from the chest so that it wasn’t self sustaining because people just ignored the entire map and chest farmed there.

And still it was less profitable than multiloot

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I totally agree,never seen ecto price going so low,i don’t get why this Multiloot it’s not nerfed yet,i remember when it popped up sw cf it got nerfed like 1 hour later when people jumped from map to map and it was no less profitable than multiloot.Multiloot instead is going on for MONTHS and nobody in Anet takes action against it,it’s breaking the ecto price,the sigil/runes price/the rare items price/the materials for ascends etc,it’s just destroying the market.

So if some item’s price drop that mean " destroying the market " . Wow , such wow . Let’s me tell you what exactly destroy the economy , that’s is RAW GOLD , and do you know where’s it come from ? Daily ( 2 gold ) , Sell item to NPC , TEQ ( 1 gold ) , open chest ( few Silver ) , Convert gem to gold …
Now , looking back at AB/ML , does it generate any RAW gold or just items that you can sell on TP for gold ? And each times you sell somethings on TP , 15% gold vanished from game forever ? Is it good or bad ?
Do you remember when gem price was 150 gold / 400 gem ? Now it’s 100 gold / 400 gem . Your game is saved by AB/ML . So stop blaming and sell all your stack of ectos , you greedy skirt .
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it’s just opinions right?everyone comes here talking about opinions,what i’ve saw so far is that since multiloot is up important materials dropped drastically in price and i don’t like that,now about the RAW gold,let’s say i farm 50s of junk items i sell to the merchant doing the multiloot and multiplied for thousands of people doing it daily,where’s ur god now?
The thing is my dear “skirt” that multiloot isn’t helping at all the whole economy,but HEY that’s just my opinion.

Edit : and i didn’t quite mention the amount of RAW gold you get by selling green/blue/white to merchant.

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I totally agree,never seen ecto price going so low,i don’t get why this Multiloot it’s not nerfed yet,i remember when it popped up sw cf it got nerfed like 1 hour later when people jumped from map to map and it was no less profitable than multiloot.Multiloot instead is going on for MONTHS and nobody in Anet takes action against it,it’s breaking the ecto price,the sigil/runes price/the rare items price/the materials for ascends etc,it’s just destroying the market.

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How do you know it’s the same guy each time?

If you’re flipping I assume you’re using commonly traded materials so it seems unlikely there’s just 2 of you listing them for sale, and undercutting by 1c is pretty much standard practice.

It’s bidding on rare weapon of a specific level and his amount of item request is always the same : 80,that’s how i know it’s him/her/IT

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So,i’m doing some flipping on the trading post and there’s this guy overbidding 1c over and over like immediately after me for like HOURS straight,i wanted to know if there are scripts out there,don’t get me wrong,i don’t wanna use it i just want to know if this guy is legit or i’m like a simple human being xD

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What is the difference actually?on TP there is the SKIN and there’s also the weapon as schythe,tried to google the difference between them but couldn’t find anything

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I’m having this “an error has occurred send to anet” TOO OFTEN,crashing from multiloot crashing from raids crashing everywhere randomly,anyone else having the same issue?it’s happening way too often and it’s REALLY annoying,it totally closes your game for NO REASON.

Any guild lookin ppl that want to raid?

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Hey guys i’m looking for a serious guild to raid with,i just got back in gw2 and have all my asc viper set for necro,lmk

Thanks

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I just got back in gw2 after i’ve quit for some time and i’d like to make some efficient raids.
Got my full asc viper on necro and build from metabattle so i guess i’m ready to go?
The only issue is that it’s like almost impossible to find a group for raids by pugging it,do you guys know if there are any efficient guilds recruiting all in guys for raids?thank you

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Hey guys,i received a job offer so i’m gonna move to dubai in 2 weeks,i’d like to ask some questions gw2 related to someone that actually lives there,if you could throw me a mail on AuTomA.2459 would be awesome

Tyvm ^^

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well, idea was good but it soon will be useless.
Prices on bags dropping on big speed. Couse ppl make it lower and lower to sell instantly.

IKR,i try everytime to spam on the farm spot what to do but seems like ppl just don’t give a kitten ç_ç

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People don’t want to make this farm known

This isn’t exactly a secret . . .

That’s exactly the whole point xD

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Could someone explain what exactly is going on or how this farm works? I was on Bloodtide coast the other day at this place called The Underbelly and saw a bunch of naked people standing in a corner, and occasionally some candy corn monsters would come out. They told me not to attack so I didn’t and I stuck around and asked if they could explain to me what they were doing but they didn’t speak English. They just told me to leave lol

The first time I ever saw a bunch of naked people standing in the corner, they told me they were role playing lol. Now I know they were farming I guess.

People don’t want to make this farm known,but if you basically type on youtube gw2 gold one of the videos is about this farm so there’s no point on hiding it,what we can do is try to Educate people so we can all farm in peace ^^

Hope to see you on the farmfield :P

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Hello everyone,the in-game char I use more often is Fat Plant. I’ve been farming this spot right after Halloween and it’s one of the best ways to Gold Farm. Unfortunately, often, the place gets really crowded and for this specific reason I’ve made this post to help and “educate” in a way all the people that farm Trick or Treat Bags on Bloodtide Coast. But for now, let’s cut the “crab”.

-How to Farm : First of all you need a thrower of Vials of Maize Balms OR you can do it yourself for other people.

- Un-gearing yourself doesn’t change that much but equipping a low level weapon surely does.

- When the Vial of Maize Balm has been thrown the Candy Corns will be only Level 2, so a simple auto attack basically insta-kills them. (We don’t want this!). You need to wait for them to turn into Level 52, which takes 1 second, then you can hit them.

- Get in party and only hit the mobs once. The DPS doesn’t matter if you’re in a party with other people so you will still get loot, and this gives the other people a chance to hit.

- When the train stops, simply because you’re capped or the thrower is, ALWAYS donate to the thrower. A fair donation is approximately 40-50 silver (basically nothing on 10-12g in such a small amount of time). – “What is the Cap/DR?” : DR = Diminishing Return; basically after approximatively 256/264 bags you won’t drop 3/3 anymore but you will start to drop 2/3 then 1/3 then 0/3 when hitting mobs. To remove this cap you simply have to do something else for 30-40 minutes such as enjoy a dungeon with guildies, complete a breach/vw or have a couple of matches in PvP(or just slack,people love to slack).

Most important thing: THE PRICE.
- The price you want to sell them, (unless you want to gamble but it’s totally up to you, no judging xD) is very important. We have the power to make the price since we provide those ToT bags on the TP. A more than fair price at the moment is to LIST them at 5 Silver. Do not get scared by other offers, your bags will 100% SELL, it’s just a matter of time. The more people list them at 5s the faster those bags will sell, it is VERY wrong to insta-sell them or to undercut Buyout Prices by 1-5-10-50 copper, it will just destroy the price.

Any feedback is really appreciated.

Fat Plant – One of the Throwers.

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Euw server,always..on no wait.

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Hello guys,i’ve recently got Dusk from a 400g gambling into mystic forge and i felt like Jesus when zommoros awarded me with that sword,i just wanted to ask you what’s the most profitable item to put into mystic forge,swords?daggers?
Also i would love to know if anet is going to delivery new legendaries someday
do you know something?

Thanks in advance

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I will make this very simple.

You cannot effectively farm the same mobs in the same map for more than 1 hour.
Let me introduce you to what is known as “Diminishing Returns”

Straight from wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Diminishing_returns

Diminishing returns (DR) refers to the mechanics used to prevent bots and exploits from disrupting the economy and gaining an unfair advantage over legitimate players. There are several types of DR in the game, each of which is character-based with the exception of dungeon DR, which applies to the entire account. Although DR could affect most activities that have potential for abuse, very few players will experience it during normal play.

In other words, what you plan on doing is completely moot, Try diversifying your game play, example: farming Southsun for 1 hr, moving to Frostgorge for another and possibly to Orr for another and keep rotating in this manner.
This will not only prevent your character from hitting DR but also will prevent your account from being reported.

Also personal advice, if you intend on making gold, you may just want to run dungeons instead and buy the mats you are looking for.

I started today to farm cudas again,i’m adding every single player to the party who’s there and we’re always farming as a team,also i’m farming the zone for not more than 30 mins each time,then like you said,i go make a fractals or some dungeons,i need to do the things right this time,got banned 3 times for bot(which,i repeat,i never used) since i used to farm cudas for like 1 hour and half straight for a total of 5-6 hours each day,they just said that my unban was going to be the last one and i don’t want my account terminated for something i didn’t do obviously.

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Make your guild and call it NOT A BOT ( NAB) Then name your character, talk_if_thnk_Im_bot

is this seriously going to work?cuz if that’s so i’m definitely going to do it :|

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that’s exactly my point,why i can’t farm a zone for 10 hours straight honestly?i would love if someone of anetsupport comes here and discuss this matter ^^"

Because that’s what bots do. Normal players do not.

That makes your activity highly suspicious.

I’ve always enjoyed farming,starting from diablo 2 with sorceress and hammypala to gw1 to diablo 3 to gw2,what’s happening is really really weird,i mean,based on what happened i’m basically afraid to farm alone anywhere,starting from frostgorge to southsun cove,i’m not even going to kill karka queen because i fear so bad a ban to get in southsun cove again,i just would like how to proceed,i salvaged tons of ecto to reach 302% mf(and i only play gw2 for 5 months,reached the maximum at 4 months)and now i just can’t farm,this is what frustrates me :|