How in the world is it balanced to just die to a backstab that hits you for 8.5k 1. out of the blue, 2. wearing PVT/valk accesories and weapons, with no way of blocking it, with no counterplay involved, followed by two 3k HS (pray none crits., because then you are looking at 6-7k HS easily). Where is the counterplay to that? 3. Dont tel me that zerg because I was in a zerg, the guy came in backstab, HS, stealth on top of me, nobody could do shiznit about it, stomped me and 4. walked away with 50% hp.
Stealth is out of control, I understand its good to get the jump on people, but I have been hit by 11k backstabs with my squishy equipment, 5. I was wearing PVT/valk weapon and accessories, yet it hit me for 8.5k. EDIT: 10.5khp for berzerker, 6. we have the lowest hp pool in the game, have I been full zerker I would have literally died in one hit, with zerker I get hit with 11k backtabs all the time.
Either you need to 7. reworkout the whole hp from eles or move the damage from backstab to something that 8. ACTUALLY GIVE THE THIEF SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, A RISK, right now it is incredibly dumb how they can pop out of stealth, 9. kill you in literally less than a sec with Backstab HS HS and 10. there is no counter to this unless you have stealth of your own or have aegis to save your butt.
11. I used arcane shield, it blocked two attacks, none revealed the thief, he kjust backed away until it disappeared, so no, thats not the counter, a good counter would be IF IT REVEALED THEM , but NOOooooo, we cant have a thief having to do any thinking on enemies CD, he could’ve ignored the shield anyways, the damage isnt enough to kill him if it explodes anyways.
1. It is not out of the blue, he has an obvious set up to the backstab in your damage log, so if a thief steals + CnD’s it is pretty clear that he is most likely going to backstab you, especially when striking someone in a zerg.
2. You are obviously NOT in PvT or Valkyrie armor. Both have vitality in the minor line, and if you had full exotic armor (not even including any ascended pieces) you would have a bonus of 698 vitality, not including any trait points in the health line. So if you were PvT or Valkyrie or a mix you would have 17785 health. So you obviously are not in full PvT/Valkyrie, or in very low level armor and weapons.
3. If you were in a zerg do not be at the tail end, people love to prey off stragglers (especially thieves). A zerg does not want to stop just to save one man….
4. He is just as squishy as you, I am sure if you landed two meteors on him he would be downed too.
5. Wait just weapon and accessories? Your armor provides a lot more bonus than that. But still, with exotic weapons + trinkets your health STILL would be at a minimum of 14905.
6. No, you share the lowest HP pool in the game with thieves and gaurdians. You are no the only class with a low HP pool.
7. Reworking ele would rework thieves + gaurdians, and I do not think more health should be added to all 3…
8. A risk is there: You turning around and killing them instead. Or the whole zerg noticing and they would be instantly obliterated.
9. Literally less than a second? If he did a backstab and two heart seekers…. (I am guessing you do not count the obvious set up to a backstab?) Backstab takes 1/4 of a second and heartseekers are 3/4th a second each, that is 1.75s, not including the aftercast required.
10. There are plenty of counters to it…my Engineer with a flamethrower OBLITERATES these kind of thieves.
11. Maybe try dodging too? Double dodge, quickly turn around, use burning retreat, switch to air swirling winds, then set down a static field just behind you, if he is still following you switch to earth and send out a shockwave, if he is somehow still chasing you after that leave down a frozen field. Getting back to the zerg would eliminate the threat if you can’t solo him…..
Tried to organize the wall of text to the best of my ability….
