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It had to be done. I’m so very sorry.

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Let’s bump this topic back up.

Where are the Engineer changes and buffs?

Other than the AI issues people already mentioned, what I can see working well is a golem pet much like how Rangers have their pet. You can have utilities that installs mods which work almost exactly like you suggested for a period of time. What I would like more is the staff having skills that buff, enhance or improve your golem pet and maybe nearby allies so it can function as a good support build as well. Like for example, why not make those charges you mentioned explode when the golem executes it’s basic attack against a target with them instead?

Still completely in love with the class, but I don’t really play it anymore because of the Precision Strike bug. It’s just not something I want to deal with in raids and such.

Once it’s fixed I’ll be back full time.

Burtnik.5218:

Arkantos.7460:

PLz add condiclear to base line

CLEANSING CHANNEL- invoking a legend removes 6 conditions

This is just….

If you think that’s funny, look at that terrible rework list with dumb suggestions that’s floating around on the forums here.

Going to keep it short because I’m in a bit of a rush. Healing on Revenant isn’t a problem and works perfectly fine, the issue is that you’re not doing anything else. If you look at for example a Druid, they keep people alive while buffing the group with 4 different damage increasing buffs and they do a nice chunk of personal damage as well. Meanwhile Elementalist is more protective and has a higher healing output and their heals are much easier to apply (as far as I understand) while also doing high damage themselves.

Revenants just heal, apply a few boons both the other healers can maintain as well, do poor damage meanwhile and don’t really contribute anything else you otherwise wouldn’t get.

tl;dr healing Revenant works just fine. There just isn’t really any gain or reason to take one.

Might as well go ahead and flat out ask, should I give up on hoping the issues with Precision Strike hitting random hitboxes have any chance of being fixed soon?

It’s a huge pain in the back in raids, and although they aren’t common at the moment the projectiles even hit other player’s Ventari Tablets in PvP and WvW. This bug is more or less the reason why I play other characters now.

nico.2946:

Hunter´s Bane bugged.
Largos assassin does not drop the Bane that we need to go on with the legendary story.
The party doing this event just grows hoping that it will drop. Killed the NPC 4 times now and no drop.

You need to wait for him to talk to the Kodan. Let them finish their conversation, then kill him and you will get the trigger.

Evan Zynda.8631:

Thanks, we’ve identified the issue. No eta for a fix, but we hope it will be soon.

Happy to hear that, I appreciate the communication as well just to put my mind at ease. Looking forward to the fix.

Just wrote a bug report on a bug not in this topic yet. The superior skelk meat from the jungle skelk champion in Mount Maelstrom only seems to drop once when you kill it for the first time. Unfortunately you need 2 to continue the collection. I can’t buy a spare from the legendary vendor in Lion’s Arch for karma either.

Spoke with someone else who had the same issue. We both camped it and killed it over and over, him a little more than myself.

Amaranthe.3578:

its clear the we got the short end of the stick with hot

Pretty sure staff is a really long stick.

I was a die-hard Revenant and still am passionate about the class. But I flat out quit and went full time Engineer some time back because a certain gameplay effecting bug hasn’t been fixed and doesn’t seem to be getting any attention from not only the developers but also the community. My plans were to switch back once it has been fixed but I’m now so invested in my Engineer that I don’t see it happening.

Before I say anything, thank you so much for the long detailed response.

Now I kind of find it funny that I came to the same conclusion at first regarding gear and Sigil of Earth and Bursting and then somewhere in the middle things started to not make sense anymore. Full viper with bursting seemed like a rather strong upgrade but I was fully aware of how poor bursting really performed. Earth was a clear winner over bursting, but once I started running numbers with that the loss in precision and condition damage started to look like it made a negative impact on my DPS. I’d link you the entire document with notes and calculations like I originally intended in my first post, but it flat out doesn’t even fit in a forum post.

Also as I’m writing this post and going over the numbers you just mentioned I actually found out where I went wrong. Seems like I completely overestimated the amount of Sharpshooter procs you’d gain from 4% crit chance. Somehow, somewhere, for some reason I had it set to gaining 24 procs per minute just from the 4% crit chance which is completely unrealistic. I honestly have no idea what I was smoking at the time considering it’s such a massive oversight. Not to mention not catching this any sooner.

From here on I can at least start working with the small condition damage loss, which I’m fairly sure won’t make as much of an impact on my DPS compared to Sigil of Earth procs. But I’m not going to jump to conclusions before running numbers.

Already thanked you at the top of my post but I’m going to say it again. Thank you so much for your help. I was having sleepless nights over this for days now and I just could not figure out what caused the discrepancy between math and logic.

In regards to your post about going full viper without Sigil of Malice and taking Earth instead. So this has been one of the things I was most excited about last patch. Being able to go almost full viper and gain another sigil like Earth or Bursting, but after running numbers the past few days I’m actually not sure if it’s all that much of an increase. I’m fully aware viper pieces give more stats compared to sinister so in theory it should be a gain. However comparing my live character against the build you made I see these differences without condi infusions:

Live-
2183 power.
1754 precision (39.90%).
1780 condition damage.

Your suggested build-
2250 power.
1671 precision (35.95%).
1707 condition damage.

You gain a nice chunk of power but lose quite a lot of condition damage and precision at the same time. I’ve never really played condition builds in the past and I’m not well-versed in calculating conditions. But assuming my math is correct, the loss is bigger than the gain from the sigil. Mostly ignoring the power here and looking at the condition damage and crit chance.

Am I missing something?

Going to jump on the Verdant Brink hate train as well (currency-wise).

So I’ve made Nevermore and Astralaria and I’m gathering enough materials to be able to make 3 more legendaries as they are released. Airship Oil and Airship Parts are by far the hardest to farm by quite a margin. I’m not completely sure what makes these worse, but I think it’s the large amount of time you need to invest into the meta event along with the low outcome of materials and currencies after the big investment. It seems like I’m not the only one who feels this way because getting a good map in the first place is rather difficult. Verdant Brink, as much as I like the nighttime meta, always seem to empty out very quickly.

Quite funny how at the start of the expansion everyone was drowning in Airship Parts and Oils me included. I even started converting them into Leyline Crystals with the converter. Something I massively regret now.

Shattered Dragon Wings, but I guess that is a bit of a different story because it was meant to be such a limited item. I still think it’s a bit odd this one doesn’t show up on the laurel vendor while other living story season 1 items do.
Some of the PvP exclusive items would be nice to see as well. Tribal and Apostle sets along with the Destroyer Scythe for example.

Emopandagurke.3497:

I’d sacrifice everything I have for those Aviator Sunglasses cough

That one. I’ve been absolutely dying to get the Aviator Sunglasses.
If I could get any 1 item in the entire game, I would pick this one.

Zenith.7301:

You’re just a buffbot, much like a Chronomancer. On an individual level, solo scenario or roaming PvP this makes no difference.

Sorry, how is this a bad thing?
Chronomancer and Druid are the two classes/builds I see running around the most so clearly people are enjoying it. They are also the two classes that will likely maintain a pretty significant role in in difficult group content. Being a ’’buffbot’’ as you call it is rather positive. People want you around instead of the previous meta where Rangers were generally somewhat unwelcome in group content.

On the topic of buffing and PvP, last time I checked Druids were playing skirmishing-type builds with a focus on staying alive and winning 1v1s on your own.

No, not at all.
You don’t need to play with an elite spec. Personally whenever I solo stuff or play things on my own I play as a regular Ranger. When I step into group content I slot in Druid at a minor cost of my own personal DPS to give my entire team a big DPS boost. I don’t see the issue.

Don’t forget taking Druid doesn’t force you into healing either. Even in raids I generally play full offensive. Glyph of Empowerment and Grace of the Land are huge direct damage boosts.

I normally play with berserker/viper gear and a zealot staff (if berserker). Honestly you don’t need much healing power to keep your group alive. Don’t invest too much into a healing set.

Chances are if they are dying because you can’t heal them, it’s because they are standing in AoEs. And that’s a far bigger issue than your healing power.

And our damage is still fine for what we provide. You’re trying to make it seem 19k DPS (which is an inaccurate number as well, fyi) is so low that suddenly no one wants to use a Revenant anymore. We’re not taken to content for the damage, we provide some of the best buffing capabilities and we’re fantastic when it comes to breaking breakbars. We provide a whole lot of other utility on top of it in the lines of being able to perma-blind, block projectiles, grant resistance and clear conditions, have the unique ability of sharing out boonduration and the list goes on. If you’re looking to get Elementalist-worthy DPS on top of it we would be beyond broken as a class.

Even in PvP our damage is really not one of the things that is holding back the class.

I do want to add to this post that if our damage is nerfed even further from here, it will become a problem. Another nerf like the one we just received will cause a lot of groups to swap out Revenants for something else. At least that is my prediction.

I’m fine with the strikes hitting things like ambient creatures in a way, at least you can see those. What frustrates me to no end is when they fly into things like rocks, tar pools from Slick, walls and so forth. Those things don’t even have a hitbox or anything we are meant to be able to attack. I don’t work for arenanet and I don’t know anything about game design. But I have the feeling it’s a case of a checkbox not being ticked, or else things like Overload Air from an Elementalist would hit these same spots as well.

The class does have a whole ton of issues mostly related to walls. But for most things I feel there is a way to work around the problems. Our damage I personally feel is not one of the major problems or something that needs the most attention.

Hunter.4783:

However, the fact is that precision strike does LESS damage than the tooltip…

Each projectile hits less than expected AND not to mention the tracking is a complete mess and an insult to every Revenant player… A skill projectile locking on houses instead of players in sPVP is the same as giving the middle finger to them

Yup, I agree on both points. But our damage really isn’t so low that the entire class is instantly not taken to any content anymore. Our damage before was rather high for what we provide to a group. That of course doesn’t excuse the tooltip but I’m not sure what all the fuss is really about.

Precision Strike is something I’ve been complaining about the day we got our patch that introduced it. Hell I’ve been so annoyed over it that I’ve been playing different classes in our raids lately. I fear if this isn’t at least acknowledged soon I may completely switch over to a Druid instead.

Malchior.5732:

“Our Herald was complaining that his autos went from like 10-13k in raids down to 4k.”

That sounds like a big issue.

Yeah, those numbers are made up. The last one is anyway.

Burtnik.5218:

And lol about “fuctions normally”. My list would like to have a word with you.

Damage-wise that is. Bugs are a different topic.
Hell I even complained about precision Strike in the same breath.

Responded in the reddit topic as well, this really isn’t as big of a deal as people make it out to be. Our damage is fine and our class still functions normally. The only thing that is a big issue at the moment is Precision Strike’s projectiles flying off all over the place into environmental objects.

All my characters are male Charr. Thief was my main for just over a year before Heart of Thorns and I may end up switching back soon. Not that I really consider any of my characters as mains since I switch to whatever we need in our group content, but hey.

Just going to add some things to the list of issues I’ve experienced.

-Bought gems, gems are not added to my account.
-Sold items on the trading post, did not receive any gold.
-Bought items on the trading post, did not receive said items.
-When I first open the gem store, gold-gem converting page or the trading post it comes up with a ‘’service not available’’ error.

So I’ve been tanking on my Revenant as well as a Scrapper, Daredevil, Reaper and I briefly tried Chronomancer since the day raids got released. They all have their strong and weak points but I feel Revenant is one of the better tanks.

Reason I think they are is because you don’t have to give up much damage and you still offer all the utility of your class. You can do it in berserker gear (although I used Valkyrie at the start) with your normal DPS build aside from one minor trait, and you take a shield over an axe. You still keep up the boons and you are able to contribute as much as any Revenant to breaking the breakbar. On top of all of that you can rotate your cooldowns perfectly to keep yourself alive with little help from a healer or outside source.

As for the actual best and most efficient tank, I absolutely love Scrapper because you can keep yourself up quite easily and take so little damage. This however I’ve not tested enough to really give an educated answer on. Chronomancers are fantastic as well because they don’t really lose out on anything and still buff their entire raid with Quickness and Alacrity. However they aren’t as self-reliant and will likely need some help from a healer left and right.

All in all they are all viable options and I wouldn’t sweat too much over it. But Revenant is definitely a fantastic tank once you make good use of the class and the tools you have. I’ll link you a quick build you can use to start out with. It’s not optimal but I consider it a ’’beginner’’ build just to get you on your feet.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemn3geNSuQvJRboJlsP0jS4I6SJ4EtrkFNFyugJshtDIANgdMppNA-TBSBABA8EAMTJolq/gnWAa2fIRdBTcKAuS5HpACcqF-e

Just have a clear idea of how you are going to handle damage you take in the future. You need to rotate your cooldowns one by one to keep yourself up.

I’d rather have them fix the exploit that gives you a free hammer in other legends or 3 hammers in Jalis. But anyway…

Knighthonor.4061:

This cant be fixed due to the way the game was designed around projectiles and action combat. its hard coded in.

They can rework the skill. I’m not a game designer nor do I have any experience programming in games like Guild Wars 2, but I don’t see why they can’t change the skill to a damage over time aura with the hammer visuals.

It would in turn fix the exploit at the same time as well.

That seems way overpriced for a table. Now if we can put wanted features on the table it would be well worth the cost.

Alright so I made both Nevermore and Astralaria and Nevermore bias aside, Astralaria really isn’t that fun of a legendary for Revenants as of this moment. It changes the trail of Frigit Blitz but in turn is barely noticeable. The sound it plays when you draw it is cool but too quiet to hear when there is any other noise going on. You don’t see the flashy effect on your character if you draw it because it’s in your offhand. The trail effect you won’t see much because, once again, for us it’s an offhand weapon.

I really do like Astralaria and I don’t regret making the axe. But for Revenants specifically it’s just not that fun of a legendary. Just do keep in mind that you don’t use your staff all that often either so have a good think about how you decide to spend your map currencies and materials. And there is always the chance Astralaria will be updated in the future.

For what it’s worth, as a legendary collector with a pretty sizable collection, Nevermore is my 2nd favorite in the entire game next to Incinerator. The staff looks gorgeous, the effects are amazing, the sounds when you draw and stow your weapon are fantastic and so forth. I also feel the weapon really fits Revenants considering you have a spirit crow sitting on the branch who infuses itself with the weapon when you draw it.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Ryn.6459:

What? Is condi rev a thing now?

I just updated it. We are testing out Condi Herald it’s promising

I’d be very interested in your research. I’ve been trying to make condi Revenant work for weeks and I’m pretty sure I’m pulling the best out of the class already. Unfortunately it’s still miles behind other condi builds.

dank.3680:

nicodemus.3812:

NeoJerod.8104:

lol if you think that’s the huge mace bug, what do you call the fact that “Venom Enhancement” does NOT stack poison when you add torment like the skill says… its a HUGE part of condi build but does not work.

This trait works just tested it, it just has a 20 sec cd.

Trade your only defense against condis for a kitten doom sigil.. Seems legit

PvP isn’t the only game mode in this game. That aside, it also increases all poison durations.

Alright this will be very difficult to explain and I only have some poor low quality screenshots to show the issue. Today during a raid I pressed the button I assigned my action camera to on accident. I turned it off right away and since then my camera’s position has moved. I am now unable to restore my camera and I have a lot of difficulty playing like this. Resetting everything to default has not worked and I deleted my .DAT file and re-downloaded everything which has also done nothing to fix the issue.

Can this be fixed somehow, or what can I try to do about the issue?

Again low quality screenshots but these are all I have. The camera is in roughly the same position but you can see the camera has been sort of moved upwards. I need/want my character closer to the center of the screen instead of at the bottom. Again I’ve messed with all camera setting already. Even turning everything all the way to the side that moves the camera down isn’t even close to what it was before that.

Before: http://imgur.com/p5PfZ0y
After: http://imgur.com/2WCWawW

It’s still a pretty powerful trait. All your poison application is increased by 50%. And as someone said before, you apply poison with your auto-attacks.

The internal cooldown on the extra poison proc is a bit high but I’m still taking it in my sinister build.

If we ever get a bow-based specialization with her as a legend instead of Pyre Fierceshot, I’m going to be really sad.

Everyone seems to be having this issue, so I’m just posting here to confirm and bump up the topic as well as provide some extra information.

The effect shuts itself off over a set period of time at seemingly random. In the Black Citadel I have yet to see it turn off over time. Some places like Tangled Depths in the leyline area it seems to shut off much quicker.

The one and only gripe I have with the entire tablet is that the move/heal has a cast time. I feel that is the entire thing that makes the tablet feel clunky to some people. There is an energy cost and a cooldown on it so I don’t see why it needs a cast time and completely stop you from doing any other actions at the same time. The speed is fine as well in my eyes.

Warscythes.9307:

Revs right now are one of the top dps/support/tanky class in the entire game

No, definitely not.
Big Revenant supporter here and I will be maining the class as well, but we have to stay realistic here. DPS is high but still below Elementalists. We have a strong projectile destruction, but unfortunately that is sub-par compared to reflects. We don’t buff as much might as a Phalanx Warrior. We don’t provide stealth, and little weakness and blinds. Even vulnerability which is one of the Revenant’s strongest points isn’t actually worth taking a Revenant over something else.

For fractals and dungeons I don’t see Revenants taking a core slot. Raids are a different story, but we only know 1 boss so far so I don’t know how much point there is discussing that. Then again, we don’t know how the level 51+ fractals will look either.

Revenant is a very strong and versatile class however. But we don’t really bring anything unique other classes can’t bring on top of even more stuff.

I consider it the 2nd strongest offhand weapon next to Axe for PvE. You won’t use an offhand shield for anything but the block. While the shield block does give you a little heal and it does last an extra second (which is wasted really) you are also stuck in place. Meanwhile sword’s block allows you to move, has a lower cooldown and costs less energy. It also gives you a immobilize afterwards which is useful.

Not that it really matters, you stay on sword/axe most of the time anyway. But sword is a better weapon if you just need a quick block for something.

PvP and WvW I’m not too sure about the weapon. Played exclusively with shield the 2nd beta weekend and sword the 3rd. They both have ups and downs.

Chaos.5072:

I thought it was confirmed to be champion roy’s boy

Not going to settle for anything less.

After a whole lot of theorycrafting, testing and applying a little common sense I’m convinced this is the most optimal PvE build for small group content (Fractals and dungeons) in an optimal setup. A few traits can be switched or adjusted depending on the group composition. As a small example, you can swap Bolster Fortifications to Shared Empowerment if might is an issue because you are lacking a phalanx Warrior.
Some of the trait choices might look a little iffy but I’m willing to explain everything if someone asks. On a similar note, if anyone thinks he or she sees a mistake and is able to explain why there is a better option elsewhere, feel free to let me know.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlIQRAsX8sn3guNSuQ7JRboZlsP0rS4IaVJ4EdskFNFidMppNtDIANwegHshA-ThRBABXt/o8DP9D5dSAA4JAQp6PmpEMAwBwv9tv9N48zP/8zPvf/93f/93SBMwwK-e

Can the bug with the Nomads amulet be fixed as well? It’s been months and some of us, me included, still are unable to buy or even unlock the Nomads amulet for regular PvE. If it can’t be fixed please just flat out unlock it for everyone so we are all on even footing.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Ascended-Nomad-Amulets-Not-At-Laurel-Merchant/first#post5314251

All the feedback is great but I’m having sleepless nights over the Brutal Blade change. Is it still in the works or can we know already how it’s going to work? Even if it’s just a simple sword swing that deals damage in it’s normal melee range, I would like to know.

Invictus.1503:

If you are going with a Shiro/Glint power build then yeah, people are seriously asking. With perma fury and the traits to increase your fury effectiveness you can get close to 100% crit easily without full zerker set. Which then means that if you add full zerker on top of that you are wasting a stat with all that unnecessary perception.

You will be at 90% crit chance in full ascended berserker gear, 93% if you use precision secondary stat food.

The only thing that throws things off is if you have a Warrior’s banner and Ranger’s Spotter at the same time. If that’s the case you are are 104% if memory serves me right.

I don’t see a reason not to go for berserker armor unless raids are designed in a way that it forces us to use vitality in some way, shape or form. And so far on the first boss that wasn’t the case.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vlIQRAsX8sn3guNSuQ7JRboZlsP0rS4IaVJ4EdskFNFidMppNtBYBNwegHshA-ThRBABXt/o8DP9D5dSAA4JAQp6PmpEMAwBwv9tv9N48zP/8zPvf/93f/93SBMwwK-e

This might be a good read and exactly the reason why I won’t go into any details anywhere else. All the numbers are in the final few posts.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Power-or-Ferocity/first#post5528824