Guild Wars 2

Indo.8629:

They’ve been doing it non-stop the past 2 days.

Quite frankly, it’s embarrassing especially when you guys are now winning and many of the times you’ve taken the Bay past 2 nights it was with their exploiting.

what’s really embarassing is that Blackgate. ON VIDEO. Showed they condone hacking

it’s one thing for iCOA to do it by themselves like SOR’s TID did..

but to see a literal mass of mixed blackgate guilds roll with a guild like iCOA who is blatantly hacking..

there’s no excuse for it

there is none

Sars.8792:

good fight at bay in bg bl!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbvtp1YBgmY

I thought it was just SOR’s TID that was hacking this matchup. I didn’t hear of BG hacking since they did it during their first week in tier 1 where they did it every hour it seemed.

the biggest dissapointment with this video is that I saw entire Blackgate guildtags such as [HB] and other Blackgate guilds

at least when SOR’s TID did it.. they did it by themselves which made sense because no legit SOR guild would condone hacking

but this?

:X if you guys know they hack.. why the hell would you roll with them in the first place

anyhows great video. such a shame that people still feel they need to hack in this dying game’s life cycle. makes no sense but whatever.

it’s not like arenanet cares. i personally want to hack and would hack i just don’t want to buy a 2nd account and give arenanet anymore money.

sad but true

WTB: Hackers on IoJ

scootshoot.6583:

Agree with Charlieprince. the sub numbers reached its peak months ago, I doubt it will increase.

Also word of mouth rules the day. The average consumer buys prebuilt systems at retail chains like Best Buy, etc. Most find out through others playing GW2 and so forth the game has hefty system requirements and will either stay away or realize investing in another CPU, Video card after forking down $$$ for a prebuilt is not worth it to run GW2 properly and the disk will just become a cup coaster.

One of the reasons WOW became so popular was peeps could run the game adequately on average pre built systems out of the box.

subs :P hehe that’s funny

a lot of things play into it as well. Halo 4, Planetside 2. WoW 5.1. Star Wars free 2 play. Holiday Season. etc etc

the reason GW2’s players are decreasing every day is there is so many other things going on.

HOWEVER, GW2’s strength is the fact that there is NO subscription fee so who knows maybe activity will pick up again in the future

maybe

Thresher.3049:

If I can offer some support in regards to that, it is important to encourage an attitude in your own guild, then to others to stick it out through the tough times. Pragmatism with the server hopping is something of a mixed blessing- sometimes you get a few gems, other times you get a bag of brick’s around your neck that seem to want to drown you!

But, as long as there is a ‘core’ of original people on the server willing to commit, it does make a difference, just don’t expect it to be easy, there will be tears and you will cop a flogging every now and then which makes anyone go ’ah jez… wtf was that!"

On a personal level.
Talent gets you a little way in, but I know tonnes of talented nobodies.
Ability will get you some peer credibility, but often it doesn’t shine past the moment
Persistence… counts for everything.
Being the guy(s) that never, ever, give up is what gets the job done at the end of the week. Encourage it in yourself, your guild and your server.

there is no solution Thresher, Blackgate of all servers should know considering the only way you guys revived your server was getting a MASS TRANSFER of guilds

that’s the entire point and crux of it. it’s not like fresh players rose up and revived a server. i’ve been thinking about this long and hard and you just do not get fresh players

it’s transfers. really the only servers who are constant and are identical. brothers almost is

Stormbluff Isle and Isle of Janthir

SBI has gotten a good influx but really they have solid loyal guilds who are that servers foundations such as the Korean War Machine guild.

I know personally when i thought of leaving janthir what made it extremely tough is knowing how loyal our own Koreans are (Never Die).

ultimately, no matter what happens to janthir, i think i’d rather quit the game than transfer off. speciall at the state of wuvwuv where there’s no actual rewards for winning or losing so that takes the sting out of “losing” a little.

the quickest fix though is fighting in a tier we belong in. tier 2 ain’t it. tier 3 at best, tier 4 realistically so “we can get some morale” back.

that’s the problem. janthir needs morale bigtime after losing half our playerbase, we simply need to get some morale back but tarnished coast and/or fort aspenwood cannot seem to kick us out of this god forsaken tier

sigh

Liquid.9672:

Ouch. IoJ wiped off all 4 maps today. You guys were really holding strong this week too, even during your coverage gaps. This slot is arguably BG’s strongest time period against both servers, after Oceanics go to bed and before NA logs on, which is the EU primetime where BG still has solid coverage. Still, sad to see IoJ drop to 0 PPT, even if it may only be a short while.

it’s the login issue more than anything

that’s the reason, in case you didn’t know we didn’t get wiped off the map

we could not even login at all there’s a big difference

BG took the perfect time because nobody on ioj can log on and play

SmokeyNYY.7841:

SoR’s Na presence coupled with IOJ’s Aussie Presence would be an unstoppable force. Probably would blow out Tier 1 to be honest. Would be funny to watch.

you’re about 2-3 months too late

in case you didn’t know

IoJ’s Oceanics already transferred off to Jade Quarry

what’s really annoying me is the inability of Tarnished Coast/Fort Aspenwood to kick Janthir out of tier 2

we simply are not a tier 2 server right now losing so many Oceanics, NA, and our EU guilds (2)

the sad truth to accept is the longer we stay in tier 2, the more we lose guilds. We are hemorrhaging a guild a week so for the love of god TC/FA KICK US OUT OF THIS kitten TIER ALREADY

pretty much every single pvp guild on janthir is on the verge of transferring off because you cannot fight abandonment

when people jump ship, it’s over

and guild wars 2 is a dying game that is not getting any new players so activity ACROSS ALL SERVERS are down

so what do you do? what eventually happens if you LOVE PVP?

you transfer off “Where the action is” and we all end up in the same 1-4 servers

is that healthy? is that the game we want? frankly speaking i am just thankful this dying crap of a game has no subscription. i’d personally have cancelled a long time ago

arenanet simply doesn’t give a kitten about their kittening game at least not the wuvwuv aspect all they give a kitten about is pve and trying to make it a legitimate esports kitten wuvwuv and this game’s dying player base

in 2pac’s words

they don’t give a kitten about us

Indo.8629:

Yeah BG’s NA is decent, but your Euro/Aussie is pretty solid.

IoJ seems to have just fallen apart this match too now. Should just xfer the oceanics off IoJ to SoR and lets give BG a run for their money, I’m sure they’d love that too.

IoJ already lost its oceanics

it’s sad you don’t even know the state of the servers you fight

IoJ is a TIER 4 server. Tier 3 at best. We’ve lost so many guilds that frankly we’re HoD/ET level right now except for the fight in whoever is left

and your statement is sad, because if you think about it

if everyone transferred off

we’d all end up in the same server

pathetic so-called “pvp’ers” but is actually reality

people only want to stack up on a server, very rarely do you actually have people staying where they are and suffering thru the beatdowns

sad but true

transfer off! everyone just transfer away!! that’s the magic bullet

Deimos.2794:

Greetings, we are a group of 5 (semi) mature RL friends looking for a home on IoJ.

We all have an 80 toon and are looking for a fun group of players to do pretty much anything GW2 has to offer. We enjoy PVE, WvW and SPVP.

No drama queens or any such sillyness. Feel free to hit me up ingame if you’d like to chat a bit and thank you for your consideration.

Venmyr

Isle of Janthir is a great place to be it’s definitely a mature non adolescent server!

honestly speaking, arenanet’s frozen like a deer in the headlights has all but doomed this game and its playerbase

everyday more and more people simply leave and the hardest truth to accept is slowly becoming 100% fact

ARENANET DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WUVWUV

they wanted to make something enjoyable for casual players for casual play and never intended it to be what it has become: ENDGAME

WvWvW was something people can easily hop into, get into some battles, get some kills, badges, etc and log off

that is it

that is all it was ever intended to be

as more people quit and activity dwindles, arenanet’s refusal to take any action regarding the deathroll wuvwuv has been simply screams volumes

bump for janthir! if you’re a guild thinking of transferring, give the island a try

there is only one requirement: you love to fight

i won’t lie to you and tell you it’ll be easy.. you are not joining an overpopulated server and if you want to faceroll people, the top 5 servers pretty much serve that purpose due to their overwhelming numbers

but if you love to fight, truly love to fight, then come help build something instead of joining any of the top 5 servers

Bottom Line: what happens to this game if we all simply move there?

come to janthir, help to build something and fight for it instead of simply going where everyone else has gone to

wuvwuv has lost its “fun” a long time ago

sad but true

arenanet has completely dropped the ball here and what makes it worse is that we players have turned wuvwuv into something arenanet themselves never intended it to be: ENDGAME

arenanet made WvWvW as something casual. for casual players and casual play. “Play as you want to” remember?? it was built for people to jump into, get into a few battles, get some kills, log off.

it was never meant to be what it has become: endgame. and you wonder why arenanet has turned a complete utter blind eye to wuvwuv? that is why

they already built what they wanted and intended it to be.. in their eyes, no more work needs to be done to it

that is the most painful truth of all

bump for a cool PVP oriented guild

bump for wuvwuv! if you’re a player interested in wuvwuv, check out Blood Pact

http://bpgw2.enjin.com/recruitment/

Bullfrog.1324:

CharliePrince.2071:

Edelweiss.9815:

Vigorous Precision doesn’t have a hidden cooldown. It’s a great trait for DPS Guards.

I’m a newbie Guardian. How would VIGOR help DPS??

It doesn’t. It would proc AH more often and let you dodge more often, but doesn’t directly increase DPS.

yeah that’s what i thought was thinking maybe i didnt know a mechanic or something i was like how the hell does vigor directly affect dps?!

:) thanks

Edelweiss.9815:

Vigorous Precision doesn’t have a hidden cooldown. It’s a great trait for DPS Guards.

I’m a newbie Guardian. How would VIGOR help DPS??

Travis.9045:

As I see it one of the things that starts to happen is that as one server starts to win the others start feeling like they shouldn’t bother with the whole thing. The problem then starts to be that once a server starts to win it’s very hard to turn around. I feel that if we gave greater incentives for people to join in while their sever was loosing we could make much more interesting battles.

Why not simply buff rewards for loosing servers? Not stat increase but just more karma and exp.

This way when I’m in PvE and I look at the battleground and my server is doing horrible my response wont be “Why should I even-” but rather “Cha ching!”

./Co-Sign, a player since bwe1, all stress tests, and to this day

wake up arenanet

please

Sjaakie.1470:

Lets hope next week will be different. Not because of the score (I am from IOJ) but because it will (my opinion) show that SOS is no tier 1. They will get spanked with their pants on and not because there is some event. It is because they really do not know how to face big ammounts on the other side. If they do they mostly lose. It also will show that SOR is not even Tier 2 because now they are mostly ignored by IOJ because they are no match and what is the point in going for second place? And IOJ may drop a tier or 2 as well I think. We simply do not have the numbers to be in Tier 2.

I don’t care much about wether sos is t1 or not. I am thoroughly dissapointed that nobody from tier 3 or tier 4 has managed to kick Janthir out of tier 2 yet

Janthir simply is not a t2 server right now. We lost our Oceanic alliance, our EU guilds, and are tier 3 at best if not tier 4 with our population and coverage

my worst fear is that over the next 2-3 weeks, we will see a massive exodus and we end up like HoD, ET, Dragonbrand, etc simply because there are far too many things going on for people to play in wuvwuv when every other guild has seemingly left or is not playing anymore

Thanksgiving, Halo 4, RIFT Storm Legion, Lost Shores, Star Wars f2p, wow patch, etc etc..

these next 2-3 weeks is going to be interesting

I personally hope Janthir survives only because of Never Die. I know how loyal Koreans are and I want the best for them

Ireniicus.2167:

CharliePrince.2071:

Vortex.3604:

Curious is there any chance we could get some love for WvW? Its pretty sad that the first major content update has absolutely nothing for WvW.

For a matter of fact the only thing you have done since release is a dirty fix for orbs. Is that really all that we can expect? Population is already in a steep decline. Totally ignoring the whole player base which purchased this game for WvW is a low blow.

Bottom Line: ArenaNET made wuvwuv for Casual Play and for Casual Players. It was something you hop into, get into some battles, get some kills, log off. That’s it.

It was never meant to we have turned it into: Endgame

All you need to do is look at SPVP and
-all the updates done there
-all the tuning
-all the added maps (yes, plural)
-paid tournaments
-GEMS for tournament play
-all the projects in the spvp pipeline including spectator mode, customized maps, sandbox arenas, etc etc

and it is painfully obvious where AN’s focus and plans are

wuvwuv? they don’t care. they made it the way they wanted to. CASUAL PLAY for Casual Players

not we all want it to be, arenanet simply does not care about wuvwuv because they already achieved they wanted to make it

Agreed. However from my own experience far more people play, talk about and enjoy WvW than sPvP.

As someone that is totally into eSports I was very much looking forward to exciting sPvP but its boring, predictable and lacks the x factor.

WvW needs more love as I have stated however I have also had some terrific fun playing it.

So perhaps we need to ask ANet to consider re prioritising to what the vast majority want rather than a very niche group. Great if they can do both but seems not at the moment.

I agree wholeheartedly

that is for me, the bitterest and most painful irony of them all

:( I’m at the last stage of grief to be brutally honest: Acceptance

what we want, will never be because of a fundamental difference in perspectives between us the playerbase and arenanet themselves

Vortex.3604:

Curious is there any chance we could get some love for WvW? Its pretty sad that the first major content update has absolutely nothing for WvW.

For a matter of fact the only thing you have done since release is a dirty fix for orbs. Is that really all that we can expect? Population is already in a steep decline. Totally ignoring the whole player base which purchased this game for WvW is a low blow.

Bottom Line: ArenaNET made wuvwuv for Casual Play and for Casual Players. It was something you hop into, get into some battles, get some kills, log off. That’s it.

It was never meant to what we have turned it into: Endgame

All you need to do is look at SPVP and
-all the updates done there
-all the tuning
-all the added maps (yes, plural)
-paid tournaments
-GEMS for tournament play
-all the projects in the spvp pipeline including spectator mode, customized maps, sandbox arenas, etc etc

and it is painfully obvious where AN’s focus and plans are

wuvwuv? they don’t care. they made it the way they wanted to. CASUAL PLAY for Casual Players

not what we all want it to be, arenanet simply does not care about wuvwuv because they already achieved what they wanted to make it

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Dude its not gamebreaking. Learn to the play the game. If you guys simple stack up and AoE the thief would be dead within 30 seconds.

that is the counter to it, try to get PUGS to do that, while you’re fighting to cap it so you can go back to defend a keep being sieged

sorry Smokey, it’s gamebreaking although i find it ironic someone from Sanctum of Rall is defending it considering you guys have used it the most

nothing anyone says can change this one undeniable truth

sad but true

Phantom.8130:

CharliePrince.2071:

it doesn’t matter whatsoever

yes, actually, it does.

when 1 thief can stop 50+ people from capping an objective for 10minutes+

50+ people, and not one thought to use AoE, or lay down a bunch of traps? because, yes, that does stop the technique used to prevent caps.

it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about to suggest nobody was aoeing or trying to bring the thief out of stealth

Bottom Line: i understand your desire to protect your class but it does not change the fact that Thieves right now break the game.

no other way to say it, it’s a legal hack. that’s how ridiculous thieves stealth is right now specially with the permastealthing going on

it’s simply gamebreaking

although fear not, the arenanet devs have all but ignored and turned a blind eye on wuvwuv

you know it, i know it, they will do nothing

so rest easy at night

this is the price we pay for not having a subscription

this is the best service arenanet weill ever give us

because we do not pay them a subscription fee, they simply do not have the employees, desire, people etc to actually fix their game

Phantom.8130:

Arlandino.7513:

Any word on when Thieves will be brought into line with the other classes people play in this game for WVW?

Just curious how long the rediculous imbalance is going to be allowed to persist

out of curiosity, what class do you play?

it doesn’t matter whatsoever

when 1 thief can stop 50+ people from capping an objective for 10minutes+

bottom line: where the devs at? you’d think they’d fix on gamebreaking issues but i guess arenanet doesn’t have the manpower to do it

such is the price of having no subscription i suppose, they simply cannot adress the issues plaguing guild wars 2

Arlandino.7513:

Any word on when Thieves will be brought into line with the other classes people play in this game for WVW?

Just curious how long the rediculous imbalance is going to be allowed to persist

./Co-Sign

seriously arenanet devs, isn’t there a team for wuvwuv?? at all?

things are getting way past ridiculous

willwill.9318:

Is it still pointless to WvW? Meaning, no actual progression?

it’s completely worthless

as days become weeks become months, it is clear

ArenaNET simply does not care about wuvwuv and made it simply for casual play. They made something you can jump into, get into some battles, get some kills, and log off and that’s that

it was never intended to become what we have turned it into: Endgame

all one needs to do is look at SPVP. All the things the devs already did, all the projects and plans in the pipeline and you will see exactly what AN’s focus is at.

Look at SPVP and then look at WvWvW.

Bottom Line: ArenaNET made WvWvW for casual play and never intended for it to become what we players have turned it into

ComeAndSee.1356:

IOJ had a strong presence when WvW reset and on Saturday, but they’ve waned off a lot.

regardless of how we perform during reset, the fact is we’re at 30% of our previous strength tbh, heck i can count on 1 hand the amount of guilds playing in wuvwuv

it’ll be even worse this Friday and coming week once Lost Shores is released

kinda dissappointed no one in Tier 3 is running away to bump us out of Tier 2

Janthir’s a Tier 3 server at best right now until the internal shuffling settles down

oh well, we do what we can with what we have, as always

Jeheil.2516:

Any update on current scores on the doors.

it’s the same thing

Sea of Sorrows with the lead outnumbering and outcovering both IoJ and SoR

Sanctum of Rall afraid of Sea of Sorrows and only plays “to beat Janthir” aka finish 2nd

Janthir fighting Sea of Sorrows only to end up fighting both SoS and SoR defending the same objective

same story. different day. same scores

like I said, one of these days, Sanctum of Rall will wake up and eventually actually want to win the match and finish first

the quality of guilds on Sanctum like TW, etc is too good to forever settle for 2nd place, eventually, Rall will grow the cajones to attack SoS

Elthurien.8356:

Well at least I’m still having fun. Best $60 I’ve ever spent.

not sure if BEST $60 but the R.O.I. is amazing for gw2 and i guarantee I have beat you all in /age

Something Stirs in the Sea of Sorrows

yertle.5837:

I don’t think its any more broken than Mesmers portalling people into keeps, rendering bombing, or time warping/porting golems!

but therein lies the bigger problem with the state of the game right now

mesmers portals would not be as devastating as it is WITHOUT the horrific rendering/culling issues that plague wuvwuv

so really, there’s a ton of things wrong with wuvwuv

and no, this game is not new

we’ve gone from “give it a week” to “it’s only 3 weeks old” to “it’s only been out a month” to “it’s only been out 2 months”

the excuses are there and i personally am struggling with the level of customer service we get because i know there is no subscription

soul searching: is this the best we will ever get with gw2?

the answer i find is, sadly, yes

don’t let my somber tone and macabre attitude get anyone else down, this is me humbled, bloodied, beaten and have basically given up on arenanet actually doing anything to make wuvwuv better

happened 2 weeks ago with what a friend said and she strictly plays SPVP

World vs World was never meant to be endgame. ArenaNET has always meant it for CASUAL play. Something you hop in to, get some battles going, log off and that’s all it was ever meant to be. SPVP is where AN’s focus and priorities are because their ultimate desire is to make GW2 an E-Sport

We the players have turned wuvwuv into endgame. Months have passed and we have NOTHING. Absolutely heard nothing about wuvwuv from ArenaNET and we always wonder why. This is not blind eye. They just never meant wuvwuv to become what we turned it into..

MiasmicMist.1420:

Anyone else find this exploiting? Or even borderline exploiting?

On SoR map, we have 15 people at Godslore capping… 2 thieves managed to use the rendering/stealth tactic and prevent us from capping. 10 PRX run in, we push them out. No cap. 10 PRX run in, push them out, no cap.

The 2 thieves pop very rarely and then stealth for another 4-5 minutes.

Moderator, thoughts?

it’s possibly enjoying broken game mechanics and arenanet unwilling to fix their game (sorry mods this is true)

why do i say such?

because until I saw your sig, I thought you were talking about 2 SoR Thieves who did the exact same thing to IoJ on SoS BL

there was a time i’d absolutely be livid at perma stealthed thieves preventing cap for 5-10 minutes until the main zerg force gets there and pushes us back out

but honestly speaking

if arenanet does not care about their own game

why should i

why should we

ReginaBuenaobra.6953:

I saw this community-built guild database a few months ago, and I thought it might prove useful for guild members, leaders, and seekers:

http://www.gw2guilds.org/

Please note, this site is not run by anyone at ArenaNet. It is entirely community-built and community-moderated.

it’s a good website for sure would be better if more guilds/alliances/etc used it and we the community kept it constantly updated

Isle of Janthir seeks active WvWvW guilds seeking challenge and fun!

come join the island we got coookies!

xtorma.1283:

CharliePrince.2071:

xtorma.1283:

CharliePrince.2071:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

SoR needs more competent commanders. Some commanders don’t even know how to ninja a keep or tower, or that you can portal golems across the map instead of walking them for a half hour. Some commanders didn’t even know that siege weapons don’t have an AOE camp and let us turtle in the lords room of the garrison until we wiped (lol?). No offense but SoR is severely lacking in leadership.

I’m just dissapointed in SoR overall I’ll be honest, I don’t mind 2v1 or being outnumbered or any other excuses people love to cry about because it’s all part of the game but i have an honest question to Sanctum of Rall

when was the last time you actually attacked a Sea of Sorrows objective? o_O (2 supply camps don’t count and I have actually been counting the past 3 hours)

I’ll be more specific.. today we had a guild event where we went to SoS BL with the objective of flipping every single SoS objective there was.. and we did.. to a certain point. (Lake, Hills, Garrison, and basically claiming everything we can)

then SoR en masse attacked IoJ’s objectives.. instead of pushing NORTH they instead pushed East

are we at the point that people only see “fresh flip” means “easy take” so attack fresh flipped objectives to try and get cheap points??

because what happened for the next 3 hours is simply us wiping SoR as they try to take the objectives we just flipped from SoS

this is not winning or 2v1.. it’s worse, much worse. it’s playing hoping to get cheap points

I actually am a bit envious of SoS’ position right now no, not the driver’s seat.. not outnumbering and having more coverage than both sor+ioj combined but there must be a certain relaxing quality, a zen like state when you’re in the lead position and you know only 1 server attacks you and the other server is too busy attacking that other server

anyhows, i guess i’m just dissapointed that wuvwuv’s “fun” has evolved not in seeking and enjoying fights anymore but rather hoping and trying to get cheap points.

Sanctum of Rall one day, I hope you realize, going after “freshly flipped” objectives isn’t that smart. Specially when you fail to take it and all you do is make sure the leading server gets even more comfortable

can’t play afraid in this game

eventually, you gonna have to attack the server on top

I don’t know where you are fighting, but we do it all the time in sor bl.

SoR BL is ALL SoS lower half you guys have no choice but to stop them from taking full control of your own turf

there’s a big big difference between your own home turf and SoS’ turf.. you have a choice to make and it’s clear the option SoR is choosing

what they think is the easy way which is going after freshly flipped objectives like i said, i see it clearly and that’s fine

just dissapointed that all the fight SoR has is going after what they think is an easy take which are IoJ objectives after we have forcibly kicked SoS out with FULL upgrades on their keeps and towers. It just ends up wasting SoR’s time, IoJ’s time, and SoS is smiling all the way home

Are you suggesting we…..cooperate?

hardly, would love to see smarter/more courageous play though

:) anyhows have fun! if trying to go after freshly flipped objectives is what sor thinks is fun, that’s all that matters in wuvwuv

xtorma.1283:

CharliePrince.2071:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

SoR needs more competent commanders. Some commanders don’t even know how to ninja a keep or tower, or that you can portal golems across the map instead of walking them for a half hour. Some commanders didn’t even know that siege weapons don’t have an AOE camp and let us turtle in the lords room of the garrison until we wiped (lol?). No offense but SoR is severely lacking in leadership.

I’m just dissapointed in SoR overall I’ll be honest, I don’t mind 2v1 or being outnumbered or any other excuses people love to cry about because it’s all part of the game but i have an honest question to Sanctum of Rall

when was the last time you actually attacked a Sea of Sorrows objective? o_O (2 supply camps don’t count and I have actually been counting the past 3 hours)

I’ll be more specific.. today we had a guild event where we went to SoS BL with the objective of flipping every single SoS objective there was.. and we did.. to a certain point. (Lake, Hills, Garrison, and basically claiming everything we can)

then SoR en masse attacked IoJ’s objectives.. instead of pushing NORTH they instead pushed East

are we at the point that people only see “fresh flip” means “easy take” so attack fresh flipped objectives to try and get cheap points??

because what happened for the next 3 hours is simply us wiping SoR as they try to take the objectives we just flipped from SoS

this is not winning or 2v1.. it’s worse, much worse. it’s playing hoping to get cheap points

I actually am a bit envious of SoS’ position right now no, not the driver’s seat.. not outnumbering and having more coverage than both sor+ioj combined but there must be a certain relaxing quality, a zen like state when you’re in the lead position and you know only 1 server attacks you and the other server is too busy attacking that other server

anyhows, i guess i’m just dissapointed that wuvwuv’s “fun” has evolved not in seeking and enjoying fights anymore but rather hoping and trying to get cheap points.

Sanctum of Rall one day, I hope you realize, going after “freshly flipped” objectives isn’t that smart. Specially when you fail to take it and all you do is make sure the leading server gets even more comfortable

can’t play afraid in this game

eventually, you gonna have to attack the server on top

I don’t know where you are fighting, but we do it all the time in sor bl.

SoR BL is ALL SoS lower half you guys have no choice but to stop them from taking full control of your own turf

there’s a big big difference between your own home turf and SoS’ turf.. you have a choice to make and it’s clear the option SoR is choosing

what they think is the easy way which is going after freshly flipped objectives like i said, i see it clearly and that’s fine

just dissapointed that all the fight SoR has is going after what they think is an easy take which are IoJ objectives after we have forcibly kicked SoS out with FULL upgrades on their keeps and towers. It just ends up wasting SoR’s time, IoJ’s time, and SoS is smiling all the way home

SmokeyNYY.7841:

SoR needs more competent commanders. Some commanders don’t even know how to ninja a keep or tower, or that you can portal golems across the map instead of walking them for a half hour. Some commanders didn’t even know that siege weapons don’t have an AOE camp and let us turtle in the lords room of the garrison until we wiped (lol?). No offense but SoR is severely lacking in leadership.

I’m just dissapointed in SoR overall I’ll be honest, I don’t mind 2v1 or being outnumbered or any other excuses people love to cry about because it’s all part of the game but i have an honest question to Sanctum of Rall

when was the last time you actually attacked a Sea of Sorrows objective? o_O (2 supply camps don’t count and I have actually been counting the past 3 hours)

I’ll be more specific.. today we had a guild event where we went to SoS BL with the objective of flipping every single SoS objective there was.. and we did.. to a certain point. (Lake, Hills, Garrison, and basically claiming everything we can)

then SoR en masse attacked IoJ’s objectives.. instead of pushing NORTH they instead pushed East

are we at the point that people only see “fresh flip” means “easy take” so attack fresh flipped objectives to try and get cheap points??

because what happened for the next 3 hours is simply us wiping SoR as they try to take the objectives we just flipped from SoS

this is not winning or 2v1.. it’s worse, much worse. it’s playing hoping to get cheap points

I actually am a bit envious of SoS’ position right now no, not the driver’s seat.. not outnumbering and having more coverage than both sor+ioj combined but there must be a certain relaxing quality, a zen like state when you’re in the lead position and you know only 1 server attacks you and the other server is too busy attacking that other server

anyhows, i guess i’m just dissapointed that wuvwuv’s “fun” has evolved not in seeking and enjoying fights anymore but rather hoping and trying to get cheap points.

Sanctum of Rall one day, I hope you realize, going after “freshly flipped” objectives isn’t that smart. Specially when you fail to take it and all you do is make sure the leading server gets even more comfortable

can’t play afraid in this game

eventually, you gonna have to attack the server on top

it’s about time imo, if they cannot fix the culling issues

do something about stealth/rendering/something

heck all the QQ you see of the mesmer portal bombs is not because of the skill itself

it’s the fact that you add that on top of the already horrific redendering/culling and you have a broken game

personally speaking, i am hoping ArenaNET devs does something

wuvwuv has been broken for so long it’s time to actually, you know, start working on it instead of letting us in the asylum continue to run amok

run amok

amok

Zethar.2147:

Is WvW worth it? well no but it should be I mean I spent 2 hours yesterday and I had a lot of fun but still I felt like I just wasted 2 hours of my life since I didn’t achieve anything not even a little game thing which is still wasting my life but a game needs to reward you for spending 2 hours on it. Instead I lost 15 silver. I just though DAM so now I vow to NEVER play WvW ever again till its rewarding.

Honestly speaking, as painful as it may be to admit

to directly answer your question which I bolded

until such time as AN actually looks at wuvwuv instead of pretending it
1. does not exist
2. not broken
3. something besides a casual place they don’t want to be “end game” which we have turned it into

NO

:( sad but true

Neutro.3079:

Hey,

In EU we have Desolation as the only “international” server that i know (lots of EU playing during 1 part of the day, lots of NA playing the other part).

My question is: how many servers like this exist? Is Desolation the only “international” server in EU league?

TIA

PS: no trolling/flaming, if you want to discuss about night capping, do it somewhere else!

I think “International” Servers are far more prevalent on NA realms than EU realms.. that being said

Stormbluff Isle = tons of coverage pretty much all throughout the day specially now that they are considered the #1 NA server. Their foundation is War Machine a Korean guild.

Sea of Sorrows = tons of Oceanics fortified by a Dragonband Alliance and ex-HoD TA forces such as PRX moving there

Jade Quarry = let’s be honest, to be Tier 1 you need to be able to field numbers in all hours of the day regardless of weak zones. That is why you’re Tier 1. JQ isn’t as strong in international presence as SBI but rank up there as having perhaps the 2nd greatest presence on NA realms

Blackgate = DEYS EU Alliance. Perhaps the greatest EU presence of any NA realm plus they have tremendous SEA (Southeast Asian) presence in THAI, etc

that’s pretty much it.. the main thing you have to know is the way wuvwuv works

you win with numbers and coverage. period.

so start with Tier 1 servers. there is a reason they ARE Tier 1!

the way NA realms work and specifically Tier 1 works is this..

all things being equal, off-hour coverage determines your wuvwuv performance

that’s pretty much it

Stabio.2815:

A persistent 24/7/365 experience, such as WvWvW, should be priortized over a one time a year new jumping puzzle, some new skins and maybe some turkeys flying around…

I disagree. Completely.

You honestly believe that a persistent, on-going, constant wuvwuv which rewards Winners and Losers with NOTHING should be honestly prioritized over holiday events or more specifically, limited time events??

cannot disagree more and i love wuvwuv

The Lost Shore will have a greater impact on wuvwuv than Mad King because this is a one-off event. Miss it and that’s it. You don’t get weeks to participate.. it’s one of a kind

given the option, what do you think people will do?

wuvwuv or a one time limited event

Bigger Picture.

I personally hope ArenaNET implements something that rewards SERVER LOYALTY.

To those who do not server hop and those who laugh in the face of struggle and remain loyal to their home servers, I pray AN somehow someway rewards us

whether it be fissure of woe, Kaeining, whichever servers in whatever rankings or tier. I can only hope and pray loyalty is rewarded by ArenaNET going forward

it’s not more “fun”. you just don’t have to take a week off in a lopsided much. in that sense you’ll always get “Action” every 24 hours regardless of how the actual match is going whether it be a blowout or a close one

Corvindi.5734:

Starting to look like IoJ does have some coverage gaps. Any guilds who can fill them looking to move would be fools not to. IoJ deserves to be in Tier 1.

IoJ always had coverage gaps.

Janthir is the most overachieving server in the game. We do more with less than anyone else

we need more EU and SEA (WvWvW-oriented) guilds though, that much cannot be denied

AnthonyZdravko.2051:

Well with the halloween event JQs unsurpassed population will now show, especially during the night(even now Sbi has outmaned buff in Eternal battleground, as does Janthir), went down by 6k points just from last night. Was good while it lasted, Sbi will continue to push but i don’t think we will have the coverage to compete, especially with ioJ letting up so much allowing JQ to focus on us.

Also, don’t give up ioj!

nobody is giving up AnthonyZdravko.. it’s all about priorities. can you blame people for wanting to do the halloween event more than wuvwuv which
1. is always there
2. doesn’t reward you for anything

arithmetic

which would you spend your time on? wuvwuv which is always available and doesn’t reward you whatsoever or a limited time holiday event

simple really

Xeeron.9254:

Funny really. When HoD was dominating, everyone and their mother demanded a JQ-SBI-ET match, because it would be the most even one.

Now we have JQ-SBI-IoJ, and it is the best WvW match since the 1 week matches started.

- Xeeron

I think everyone is still curious and would’ve loved to see the old JQ-SBI-ET match go down preferably someone with a livestream in it too

i’d have been watching

Ragnarok.4586:

Mass server transfers are killing the WvW experience for those of us that do not run with large guilds/alliances and are LOYAL to our server.

Please put an end to this, make server transfers cost money, it will benefit your company and your players.

V/r
Mekanos

./Co-Sign

there’s nothing else to say and the community and gw2 players is unanimous in this

still not certain why ArenaNET has turned a total blind eye to all the problems of WvWvW starting with free transfers

Sleepy.2647:

CharliePrince.2071:

the more the weeks go by the more apparent ArenaNET never intended wuvwuv to be as popular as it is. It was simply here for everyone to join and play casually. sPVP is what they’re interested in and their actions all reflect it

I don’t think they are going to get really far with sPvP as it is, it would have better future if the goal was to kill the enemy team because capturing/holding points is REALLY boring and limits the game to a few builds/classes.
They should introduce some sort of arenas 1v1, 2v2 etc, that would be fun.

well that’s why i started laying down the pipeline for sPVP

ArenaNET is doing so many wonderful things for sPVP and their main goal is to make it E-SPORTS.

Compare the pipeline for sPVP to wuvwuv and it is painfully painfully obvious

ArenaNET’s focus, care and direction is strictly on sPVP

wuvwuv was never meant to become what it has now.. it was supposed to be a casual thing you jump into whenever you get a chance to play

:( my eyes were forcibly opened to this stark reality

in all honesty, I do not think ArenaNET cares about WvWvW at all

sPVP is their baby, it’s the gateway to GW2’s population explosion. Specifically: ESPORTS

so sPVP is their priority. Sadly, I am beginning to realize that wuvwuv is something meant for casual play, something you join and play and waste time in. This is probably the reason AN has turned a blind eye on all the problems of wuvwuv

sPVP is their focus and their goal is ultimately E-SPORTs.

Look at all the things in sPVP’s pipeline
- tournaments
- spectator mode
- customized tournament battle gear
- customized maps
- tournament winner rewards
- etc etc etc ad infinitum

Look at wuvwuv’s pipeline:
- nothing

the more the weeks go by the more apparent ArenaNET never intended wuvwuv to be as popular as it is. It was simply here for everyone to join and play casually. sPVP is what they’re interested in and their actions all reflect it

PariahX.6970:

Hopefully Mad King craziness doesn’t make this match too lopsided for anyone as it has been really fun thus far. Good work all around! Cheers!

for me, personally, this match is already over and thankful for the past 3 days which has been amazing

:) just waiting for the Halloween event tbh, as crazy as i am about wuvwuv

it’s all about priorities

Something wicked this way comes > wuvwuv

considering Isle of Janthir has been fighting against Tier 1 since forever I’d go with

do these people ever sleep?!

hahaha

Crawford.4135:

ArenaNET does not want players to be rewarded for losing or winning — it’s more about jumping in and enjoying their game.

That said, the WvW Orb situation has in fact killed WvW for me. I was a heavy, heavy WvW until the Orb hacking and buffing destroyed the balance. (now that I have mentioned “Orb” within this thread, no developer will touch it with a reply — guaranteed)

your post is quite possibly the most depressing things i have ever read because of how truthful it is I never thought of it that way..

what if you’re right.. what if AN’s silence and blind-eye to wuvwuv is because of their policy of not wanting to reward its playerbase

ARGH !!! god i hope you’re not right but i feel like i got punched in the gut

all this time i keep thinking ArenaNET simply does not care about wuvwuv but your perspective screams true.. they do not want their players rewarded at all WvWvW is something to jump into and enjoy playing.. it was never meant to be the hardcore battlefield we have all turned it into

I pray you are wrong but afraid that you may just have hit the crux of it all

:X im getting the itch to buy keys from trading post… ARGH!

…hmm wonder how many keys I can get for $20

GRR ARGH!

zeromius.1604:

This thread is full on WIN. The game has its problems but honestly do we need a new “oh this game is so broken” thread posted every hour? The fact that ArenaNet is being so tight lipped about this event probably means it’s going to be something special. They could just as easily release all the details so the constant moaning would stop for a brief moment but they’re not. They really don’t want to spoil the surprise.

so we haven’t heard anything yet huh guess i am going to sleep tongiht after all