Guild Wars 2

Make it dysentery, with appropriate visual cues, and I’m sold on it.

I’ve actually gotten to where I enjoy the dailies (although I don’t fret if I skip a day) but agree with the rest of the OP.

+1. That makes too darn much sense, though.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Corvindi.5734:

Last time I was in WvW (admittedly awhile back) Mesmers scared me far more than thieves and they have some stealth and mobility, too.

Mesmer is quite slow really, in combat you can easily out run them. Focus being the main swiftness skill. They have blinks and such but they arent that great.

I actually like Mesmer stealth – its not to much and its not to little. Even better its more of a “use at right time” type of stealth rather then spamming it.

They are too darn slow, that’s true. Really annoying in PVE, actually, which is why Mesmer never does get leveled. Well, that and I keep rerolling different races.

There is a hysterical youtube video of one Mesmer that has a dozen players chasing him all over because he’s using portals, though.

Last time I was in WvW (admittedly awhile back) Mesmers scared me far more than thieves and they have some stealth and mobility, too.

I’m glad there finally is a dungeon finder, but since I’ve never done a single dungeon I’m now too shy to use it. Maybe eventually I will try it anyway. I wouldn’t worry if there were roles, I’ve always been a good healer, but since there aren’t, I’m afraid I’ll screw up big time and wipe us all if I just jump into the lowest level dungeon and go. Of course that is what youtube videos are for, I’m sure I can look some up before I give it a try.

Asrok.2193:

Someone made a good post in another thread and said some of us didn’t ask for or want this helping hand not matter how insignificant you think it is they’re still stats that can’t be accounted for by who ever happens to not have the orbs during the fight.

Guilds don’t just fight at windmil, we roam and we look for each other in the lakes. My guild doesn’t fight because all we want is the victory we want the challenging fights against good guilds and bigger numbers that’s where the fun in the game is for me and I’m sure some guilds share a similar mindset. I want to know I outplayed my opponent if I lose I want to know what I did wrong the bloodlust buff makes that very hard to do.

In fights where guids make a point of players having the best gear and food it’s hard to know if we won because we played well or if it was just the bloodlust buff. Imo it cheapens a win and makes it hard to learn from a loss.

This! I don’t understand why the devs don’t get it. It’s not fun to win because of some goofy stat buff, nor is it fun to lose to one.

It’s been a long time since I tried it, but last time I did pugging was painful and the areas compared to WvW made me feel bored and claustrophobic.

It’s not just that they’re going with a treadmill against what we were promised. It’s that they’re putting resources into this treadmill instead of into expansions, new races, housing, and other things many of us would have and wanted to purchase a few months or a year out from launch.

I know this model works for them, or they seem quite happy with it, anyway, but that doesn’t mean all of us are happy about it. As I said in another thread, this is their business, if it works for them, okay. But it won’t stop me from expressing my disgust with their model.

If they had done it right NPCs could have helped outnumbered players without giving reason to not bother showing up and just let the NPCs do all the work.

Of course that would have taken a massive amount of tweaking and balancing and they did have bigger issues. Like culling. Nevertheless, it’s a shame they didn’t put resources into that.

You can’t make losing worth showing up for in a blowout, you just can’t. Well, maybe for treadmill hamster muppets who just show up for shinies, but not for anyone who really enjoys a challenge in PvP.

Gems for gold. The root of all unsatisfactory grind in this game. Some of us were there warning you from the beginning.

Sorry we weren’t wrong.

Before I learned there would be a gems for gold exchange (which should have turned me off buying the game right away, but I won’t gripe, since I did enjoy it for awhile and still log in to goof off while waiting for something better), I looked forward to a year after launch.

I hoped we’d have real housing, new areas to explore, a new race or two to play, rough edges smoothed out. I’d have happily spent money for an expansion or even two.

This though is not what I wanted. I don’t bother with most seasonal stuff or one time events, it just isn’t fun for me. I made some gold with this last one slaughtering boss mobs in a huge group and that is all it was for me. I’m not at all engaged with the world like I hoped I’d be. I certainly don’t feel the ‘play your way’ philosophy has been adhered to.

shrug Maybe something better is on the horizon, but I don’t think this company will be the ones releasing it. So much wasted potential.

Bunnymancer.6901:

King Amadaeus.8619:

The man already said a week or two ago, that you cannot play WvW and expect to get 100% of the game from it. Which to many (myself included) was a disappointing slap in the face.

(I am paraphrasing because I am too lazy to find the quote). But essentially he did say that one should expect to have to leave WvW and participate in PVE. Which is inline with the the grinding associated with Legendary crafting etc.

Having fun in WvW isn’t going to sell any gems, now is it?

And I think that’s what it comes down to. Well if I’d been having fun all this time and playing how I wanted to play, as we were told we could, I would have spent a lot on this game. As it is, no. But apparently my idea of ‘a lot’ is less than what they expect treadmill hamsters to spend. So be it, this is their business. But it’s my money, and I’ll spend it elsewhere.

DevonCarver.5370:

Doing so would invalidate the time people spend acquiring that gear. I think the heart of your post is in the right place, but what we would rather do is make possible for people to get the gear by playing WvW with a sprinkling of PvE, rather than the other way around.

First, some of us don’t want to do any PVE grinding to get BiS for WvW.

Second, by making it much harder and slower to do the majority of mat collection in WvW and make it possible to do in ways that don’t advance your server (swapping keeps), you hurt WvW badly. The population will be out doing PVE, chasing stats, a lot of us simply won’t bother on such an uneven playing field, and those actually in WvW will be less about tactics and more about acquisition. WvW is in enough trouble without this, too.

Then I read something about a guild buff in WvW, if I read that correctly, well nail in coffin.

This was supposed to be a play your way paradise. It’s simply not.

Of course I knew that awhile back, when I realized I had to manually join a team in WvW and PVE to get more loot. Defeating the entire purpose of just joining in and playing.

Siphaed.9235:

Corvindi.5734:

Siphaed.9235:

As a “PvE grinder”, I’d like to proclaim that WvW is an extension of the PvE game as a whole. It’s basically the “Open world PvP” that other games have, but without all the ganking and interruption mid-mob kill. However, gear and stats still make it into equitation just as it would in OWPvP like other games. In other words: just deal with it. :P

You grinders were supposed to be able to enjoy your preferred methods of play without forcing others to do the same to keep up stat-wise, though.

How sad that you are the ones who prevailed.

And yet, you are wrong. I’ve been in WvW for the past week and have collected hundreds of Ascended crafting materials. These are dropped from Champions, which incidentally every Keep, Tower, and Camp has at least one mob that fits the classification. Each home-borderland had an array of crafting stations to use. 1+1= fun on a bun. Get it? Yes, I’m essentially stating that you’re able to do a large portion of Ascended via WvWvW. Get to it.

If I can’t do it ALL in WvW at the same pace anyone can do it anywhere in game, and have fun doing it (not swap keeps on purpose or crap like that), then I’m not even remotely interested.

Pray For Kosmos.5849:

maddoctor.2738:

Part 1: Is Ascended Gear Required?

First of all, there are people doing naked runs of dungeons (absolutely no armor, only weapons), there are people soloing AC/CM/TA at their intended levels, without access to Ascended or even Exotic items. I’ve seen a level 24 Necromancer doing 30+ fotm, it was fun and “unique”. Overall, Ascended gear, and really ANY type of gear isn’t required at all, provided you have enough skill to compensate for the lack of it. I doubt Ascended gear can make much of a difference in large scale WvW battles or sieges either, there are siege weapons to be used, and I’d take a properly built (skill-wise) team mate using greens (for example a support Guardian with a Staff) over a bs Thief in a large scale battle.

As I’ve said in multiple posts, if you are doing a variety things (like, everything in the game) you can get an Ascended Weapon without ever doing the same thing twice.

ascended gear kittens up wvw. it’s not debatable. if it was pve only, i wouldn’t probably care as much—i would simply not get the gear.

such stupidity. no, you’ll have to do the same thing twice, three times, or 10 times, or 500 times. think about all the combinations of stats. dumb. (and amount of weapons)

This is my issue with it. I wouldn’t care if it just affected PVE, which I solo and run around in doing whatever for my daily anyway, plus sloooowly level alts. But WvW, that was something I was thinking of getting back to doing. I see no point if there is stat advantage for grinder hamsters, though. No point at all.

Dark Catalyst.1028:

It’s still better than exotics and therefore still alters outcomes.

My mind boggles over how WvW isn’t considered PvP. What do you think people do in WvW battles?

I suspect the same people who claim it isn’t PvP and therefore the stats are meaningless will scream bloody murder if Arenanet actually does the right thing and drops Ascended to exotic gear level in WvW. They want a stat advantage so they can kill other players with it.

Come to think of it, they’re right, that isn’t PvP. It’s garbage PvP.

Siphaed.9235:

As a “PvE grinder”, I’d like to proclaim that WvW is an extension of the PvE game as a whole. It’s basically the “Open world PvP” that other games have, but without all the ganking and interruption mid-mob kill. However, gear and stats still make it into equitation just as it would in OWPvP like other games. In other words: just deal with it. :P

You grinders were supposed to be able to enjoy your preferred methods of play without forcing others to do the same to keep up stat-wise, though.

How sad that you are the ones who prevailed.

Perfect solution. Coming out of permalurk mode to say add me to the yes vote.

I am a cynic however and don’t think it will happen because the game now has too many wheel rats who want their pvp advantage while pretending none will exist.

I haven’t spent a dime nor been in WvW since the Ascended treadmill got started. Unless they make it fun and reasonably fast to get Ascended while enjoying WvW, I don’t see why I’d bother. Every time I think about jumping in for a bit I shrug and finish my pointless daily and log out instead.

Probably not. Too many times I’ve attempted to play the game the way I enjoy it and been thwarted.

TommyProvolone.3715:

All adding a subscription would do is increase the self-entitlement of players. That, and making a lot of people angry.

Oh it’s too late to add a sub now. No way I’d pay it unless they made a whole lot of changes, starting of course with an end to gems for gold and all cash shop boosts of any kind.

As for self-entitlement, I’m seeing more of it on the end of corporations and organizations lately, including MMO developers than I have ever seen from customers and communities.

The stubborn silence on certain issues brought up on this forum really infuriates me. Although I do give them props for addressing Ascended gear issues to some extent, there are things they aren’t addressing.

And speaking of, where the heck are the alternate ways to get Ascended gear? It’s been over a month now, and everyone who doesn’t do dungeons is behind in stats now. Will they compensate those who will seek Ascended through other means by making it less grindy to obtain them? I doubt it.

kidkilowat.5932:

Pay2Win has a very well known and agreed upon definition in the MMO community and GW2 doesn’t fit the criteria, period.

As stated in other threads, there are some serious problems in this game atm (ones that make me want to not play anymore) but p2w isn’t one of them.

Sorry but it’s just not, any way you look at it (by the current widely understood and agreed p2w definition).

Source for this definition and proof of it as the standard, agreed-upon definition, please.

It is true that I have seen this definition change somewhat over the past several years on forums in response to the growing acceptance of free to play games with cash shops.

I still think if you ask the average player if putting a weapon with superior stats in the cash shop that you can technically get from a drop in the game but the drop rate is .00001%, most will say it’s pay to win.

So how is it not pay to win to buy a weapon with superior stats that takes hundreds or thousands of hours to grind?

I didn’t care until they introduced Ascended and made Exotics no longer BiS. I really didn’t. Cosmetics and what people will do to get them means nothing to me. I was pretty much over gems for gold, too, because Exotics aren’t that horrible to get (although that will change as drop rates decline I guess).

I didn’t care about people getting to max level in a hurry with their wallets except I wish it hadn’t been possible from the start because of WvW, but now it isn’t a huge deal if someone wants to skip leveling, unlike the OP, I figure that is their loss.

Auesis.7301:

Corvindi.5734:

And the grind for Ascended is terrible too and many people are shortcutting it with gems. Also, those of us who don’t do dungeons at this time are locked out of those items so have no choice but to be weaker than other players or purchase Legendaries. Inform yourself, please. Many posters here have compared Legendaries to Exotics, not Legendaries to Ascended.

So you also forget to mention that Arenanet have already said numerous times that there will be numerous methods to acquire Ascended equipment apart from dungeons? Sure, just ignore that part and twist everything out of proportion.

And companies always do what they say? Those same gender romances in SWTOR are going along just fine, I hear. Oh, wait!

Besides, even if they offer other ways, if those other ways is a massive grind for gold or mats or likely both, well, it’s still pay to win because of the sheer amount of time it takes to play catch-up with those who break out their wallets every time a new piece of gear is introduced.

Curlybaby.6258:

No one can bring up a point that is even remotely valid against GW2 without the white knights showing up in droves to defend it.

Haha I misread that as ‘whine knights’. But then they think of us as whiners, too.

When it comes down to it, if devs don’t want players to complain about things in a game we don’t like and that will stop us from continuing to spend money on their games, that isn’t too bright of them.

When other customers try to shush us or attack us for doing these companies the favor of bothering to let them know when we aren’t happy, well, they’re not helping developers make better games.

If I didn’t like many things about Guild Wars 2 I wouldn’t ever have wasted my time even mentioning what I don’t like.

And the grind for Ascended is terrible too and many people are shortcutting it with gems. Also, those of us who don’t do dungeons at this time are locked out of those items so have no choice but to be weaker than other players or purchase Legendaries. Inform yourself, please. Many posters here have compared Legendaries to Exotics, not Legendaries to Ascended.

Ascended gear is better stat-wise than exotics. Didn’t your post reference Exotics not Ascended?

I’m really impressed by the Fox News level of spin and denial I’m seeing.

Legendaries either are right now or soon will be better stat-wise than exotics.

Stop saying they aren’t or won’t be. They’ve already told us they will be. So quit with the ’it’s just pretty shinies it doesn’t matter’.

My definition of pay to win is anything you can break out your wallet to buy that gives you any advantage over other players in PvE and especially in PvP. That means time spent gearing relative to time spent doing something else counts. That means having gear you bought with cash that is better than the gear of that other guy seeking a dungeon party counts. That means being able to buy anything non-cosmetic that you want off the TP because you bought gems for gold counts.

And it was my understanding that Legendaries either now have better stats than exotics or soon will and that the grind for them is completely unreasonable for a normal, non-gem buying player, therefore making them very pay to win, especially in WvW.

I don’t care about cash for cosmetics. I don’t even mind paying cash for character slots and bank space (in fact I did spend money on those things) but when you mess up the game economy, the drop rates, and the ability of players to PvP or participate on an even field in PvE with this junk, I get pretty annoyed, and I definitely stop supporting the game financially.

Also, I bet at least some of the people defending Legendaries in the cash shop and gems for gold are also the same people griping about the horrible drop rate nerfs. Guess they’ve never seen the connection between the two?

What would suck is if there is some kind of account-wide DR that limits your loot for the entire month.

People who don’t play often in that case would get their drops like candy, but for players who spend several hours a day in game, their loot would be few and far between.

I could see this happening. I could even see some logic behind it, except that players are unhappy when their loot dries up, and unhappy players don’t keep playing.

Also, it won’t slow gold farmers down nearly as much as regular players since they steal and shuffle a lot of accounts.

Zid.4196:

Here’s some good advice how to deal with 1c undercutting from the guy who hit WoW gold cap and had three titans of worth just 9 months into EVE http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/search?q=0.01+ISK

This is good advice.

Also, it seems to me that if .01 undercutting weren’t allowed more traders would deal in higher-priced, slower selling goods. Which might not be a good thing for those already in that market.

I’ll stick with my cheap, fast selling goods. Undercutting by .01 doesn’t work nearly as well when stacks move so fast the TP can barely keep up. Seems to me if you’re trading regularly in items worth 100s of gold, you have to take the risks that go with that. And if there is such a large supply of those pricy items that yours simply will never sell due to someone listing at .01 less, seems to me there is too much supply and not enough demand for that market.

And the .01 relisters are also paying a %5 fee every time. So that fee might hurt people who have to relist because of them, but it also puts a damper on the undercutting.

Hurtful.

10.

Players can never compete with bots. Not in farming, not in playing the market (bots can be used to overbid and undercut human traders quickly and tirelessly).

Botters are also generally part of the gold farming trade, and that trade promotes account theft as well. But not as much as the players who do business with them. If it weren’t for players willing to buy gold, goods, and leveling services, bots might be a very small problem in MMOs.

Calae.1738:

Earning virtual currency in a virtual world is probably one of the least meaningful gaming experiences in existance. Understanding fundemental economics isn’t complicated to the average person, it’s just that the average person doesn’t care.

The average person doesn’t play video games to “work” or to enage in meaningless economic transactions on a graphical user interface that is completely void of ANY social interaction. The average person plays video games to participate in social activities.

I’m loving it. Maybe because I’m a mostly solo player and I do enjoy the challenge of PvP, and this is a form of PvP.

Plus playing the TP, along with the explanations in this thread, are helping me learn something that might someday be useful to me in real life. Probably not at my advanced age and puny income level, but you never know.

I’ve even started dreaming about trading on the TP. Laugh if you want, but when I start having dreams about something I’m doing, at least I know my brain is engaged, which beats letting it turn to oatmeal.

Count Jackula.9028:

Corvindi.5734:

some rich snot can come along and buy something in an instant that you spent months grinding for.

Does wealth make one snotty or is it an attitude that is independent of wealth?

On topic: What statistical advantage is said “rich snot” gaining instantly for cash that doesn’t already exist in a different, but much cheaper, skin? The answer would be, “None.”

Actually I apologize, I was being a bit of a snot myself when I posted that. I don’t care if you work at McDonalds and you’re on food stamps, if you spend money on gems and exchange those gems for gold, I’m not going to like you and I’m going to categorize you as a rich snot.

The thing is, it encourages some really bad behavior from developers when players do this. Although it’s not entirely the fault of developers because players have been cheesing MMOs up by buying gold from farmers for what, a decade now?

In any case, I was snotty about my wording in part because in a game where people feel it’s perfectly okay to break out their wallets to exchange gems for gold and then buy whatever they want (exotic gear or mats for Ascended), players are getting upset that some of us make gold off the TP? Really? What a bunch of hypocrites!

FaRectification.5678:

Ryltair.2857:

The game is very much alive. I have no problem getting dungeon groups, structured PvP is filled with people, WvW always has battles going on and there’s not a zone that is empty.

The forums are a bit of a cesspool with a few people who think just because they don’t enjoy the game, it must suck for everyone.

Internet 101: Never judge a game based on the official forums.

Well said, well said.

Don’t trust the forums at all, for anything, at all. There are a lot of uneducated people here.

Actually, don’t trust the internet at all.

Don’t go trusting educated people, either. Ever heard of Enron?

Orion.7264:

I think it looks classy. Simple is the new “SCANTILYCLADMAIDENWITHFLAMINGSWORDVANQUISINGOVERLYMUSCLEDFOESPEWINGRAINBOWACIDAGAINSTHEBROODINGSUNSETSTORMINGSKY”

Yup, completely agree. Science has proven that half naked chicks on boxes don’t appeal to straight chicks like me.

Okay, I totally made that up. But I’m pretty sure I’ve never bought a game because I liked the cover art chick’s boobs. I think not putting something like that on the box is a smart move considering that a large proportion of gamers are now females (and statistically around %90 of us are heterosexual).

On the other hand, Cosmo magazine sells almost exclusively to women and they’ve always got a half naked chick with a matching pair of twin perkies on the cover, so what do I know?

I view crafting as a major gold sink and something that exists for entertainment only. There might be obscure little ways to profit from it eventually (even counting the cost of leveling crafting enough to take advantage of those ways) but for the most part, nah, it’s a gold sink.

This was bound to happen. I just bought what I wanted with cash (bank space and character slots) and never looked back. But the whole gems for gold exchange option makes me sick. It devalues time spent in an MMO when some rich snot can come along and buy something in an instant that you spent months grinding for.

Don’t care what others think, this is just my take on it. I loathe the whole thing and I have zero respect for people who use their wallets to shortcut in game mechanics.

Edit: I tried to be a smart kitten based on what I thought the definition of that phrase was, then looked it up and realized it isn’t even close.

I read it and I still don’t get it.

Ualtar.5047:

I AM dying too. However, I am only 32 and I hope that my dying process will last another 60 years. Everything that is alive is in the process of dying you know.

Just because there are less people then the day the came out, or you don’t enjoy the game doesn’t mean it will be dead tomorrow.

Spiraling and spiraling, something about a hawk, slouching to Bethlehem to be born, was that William Blake?

Eh, whatever. Yeah. Entropy.

OP, this is typical MMO life cycle, at least for the past 6-7 years. WoW is the strange aberration and not sure about the cycles of the MMOs before it, but look to Rift for hope, it is still doing just fine and I can almost guarantee it settled out with a much smaller playerbase than Guild Wars 2 has right now.

Edit: Okay, fine, it was Yeats, and it was a falcon, not a hawk. Sue me.

Such an interesting question. Has me wondering if the perfidious duplicity of marketing is involved. But perhaps it is sincere. If so, enjoy your guild invite, I’m sure you’ll get at least one, no doubt extolling the virtues of a new player friendly guild with lots of people who will just love doing dungeons with you, or whatever else your little heart desires.

Do I sound cynical? Well, that’s just because I am!

But no, it’s not too late. If you’re very social you will no doubt get plenty of guild invites and have lots of people to do all kinds of stuff with. Don’t look the gift manna from heaven in the mouth, just go with it.

If you are more antisocial, well, so am I, I get it. But it doesn’t mean it’s too late. There is no such thing as too late. This game won’t treat you a whole lot better than most MMOs to be sure if you aren’t a social creature, but you can still enjoy a lovely game world and some fun solo experiences.

As far as the TP goes the only worries I have are people automating it (and I’m sure plenty do) and/or manipulating prices with coin and items from stolen accounts.

Other than that, it’s perfectly fair. If you don’t want people making money off you in a game like they do in real life, well, unlike in real life most of the time you can help yourself quite a bit.

First of all, be patient. Use buy orders and certainly don’t fill buy orders for ridiculously low amounts. Check out Guild Wars 2 Spidy for basic trends if you want to actually make a little coin as well.

No. I make a little gold off other people’s manipulations (I just follow their cycles). I also save money by putting in buy orders for things I need (and reposting if I get overbid).

If I can do it, anyone can. I’m horrible at math and I’m no Donald Trump (and not just because I lack the ridiculous toupee and shark-like stare of the true predator).

Now you know how WvW players feel about Ascended gear! I don’t blame you for not wanting to do WvW, though. Man, if you don’t like it you just don’t like it, you can’t be blamed for your taste in MMO activities.

There are several things about this game I really do love (or I’d never waste my time complaining about the things I don’t love).

The game world is stunning, the active combat is challenging (not sure I should play my thief every day, though, I hear carpal tunnel is no fun), and I think the character creation is really solid.

There are some things I’m sad weren’t included. Housing for example would have been nice to have at launch.

Ascended gear and gems for gold, well, not liking those things so much.

Rezzet.3614:

anything not as laggy as fraps i can use to record so i show how combat changes from my lvl 80 to my lvl 2 thief in wvw ?

MSI afterburner. Nice and free. Not sure how the lag is, but it works on my midrange, aging PC.

Dual Pistols need trait line love. They seem very lackluster anyway, and there is just nothing all that cool you can do with traits to make them better.

Dispari.3980:

Tulisin.6945:

ImagoX.4718:

It’s useful, definitely, but not terribly SEXY.

This sums it up pretty well. Steal is far from a bad profession mechanic, and it actually compares pretty favorably with other profession mechanics, especially if you stop comparing them in a vacuum and see how each synergizes with the profession. You can no more compare Steal to necromancer’s “z0mg extra life bar”, than you can straight-up compare two profession’s auto attacks and ignore everything else.

Could we at least compare the rate at which it’s used? Of all the classes, thief’s is used less than anyone else’s, by a fair margin. Several classes have always-on mechanics, or ones you can spam every couple seconds. At worst they have skills that recharge in 10 seconds. Steal is 45, and usually doesn’t give anything that exciting.

I don’t think of steal as an attack so much as for mobility and whatever I have it traited for (I believe right now it’s for stealth and then I get 2 initiative from that stealth plus it does damage).

My biggest issue isn’t the cooldown of steal, it’s the cooldown of thieves guild, but maybe I’m trying to make the thief into a pet class when it’s just not meant to be.

Cloud Windfoot Omega.7485:

WvWvW: Make zergs less effective, while endorsing team play.

How would you do that, though? Be specific. Not trying to be a smart kitten here, I just don’t see how to make numbers not matter in large scale pvp. And what do you mean by endorsing team play?

serow.6524:

Mounts would break all jumping puzzles, especially flying mounts.

Eh. True. And others make good points about the difficulty of adding them now that everything has been designed and set into motion. But I miss them from other MMOs. What can I say, I grew up on horseback, I’m fond of the creatures, even the pixelated version.

Mimizu.7340:

Orr is easy and fun!

Contact me for a guarded/guided tour today…

top tip: hold ctrl when running anywhere; avoid the mass of red names.

Or just change your setting to show all names?

Sorry if I’m being ignorant, does holding ctrl improve range or something?

I sympathize because sometimes I miss healing in groups (I used to enjoy, of all things, healing WoW pug dungeon groups, don’t ask me why!). But I also remember that solo leveling a healer is usually a serious pain in the butt, especially before dual spec is available. My suggestion (as others have said) is play Guardian or Elementalist and use a spec and weapons that let you put out the max possible amount of heals when you group.