Guild Wars 2

Shout/Corruptmancer is completely broken in WvW and the people who defend it either have never fought even a semi-decent ones or play broken builds themselves. Yes, Warr is too strong in WvW too with the non-nerfed AH and Endure Pain, but the Nec is even much worse.

Just to put it in Perspective: A version of Condinec is currently a popular Metabuild in Spvp. That is DESPITE the facts that: a) Gear combinations like Dire or Trailblazer that combine high condi dmg with tough AND vit are not available in PvP, b) Deathly Chill does 1/3 (!!!) as many bleeds as it does in WvW. The Combination of the WvW Version of Deathly Chill and the Reaper Rune is completely broken, combining a ridiculous amount of bleeds with one of the strongest debuffs/slows and enough additional condis to cover it / do further dmg.

Condibuilds are generally much too strong in WvW due to Dire/Trailblazer, but the current Meta Nec adds two completely broken mechanics on top of it (Reaper Rune and Deathly Chill). The problem is that if Anet actually fixes any balance issues in WvW it’s usually zerg related (such as the stability mechanic), while any fights under 15v15 barely figure.

gr8 b8 m8

/15signsrevolution

The joys of weekend Ranked PvP. Always been that way.

Kiril.7140:

EU players > Make a shortcut file of GW2 > Target: Gw2.exe -authsrv 206.127.146.73 -assetsrv 64.25.41.2

Unlike the other workarounds posted, this actually worked for me. Just make a shortcut to the exe and put this into target, AFTER the quotes.

Kind of surprised about the two guards in NA, as the class is widely seen as not viable for tournament play in EU. What builds did they play? Symbolic?

2v2 automated tournaments would be really cool.

Guess it will just be ignored, because kitten PvP and some teleports in a random volcano are more important.

Could you kittening fix that pls, thx. Can’t even accept when my teammate queues us in duo, and need to start the q myself.

Same here. You can ignore the message when queuing, but it’s still very annoying. The red exclamation mark at the build tab also shows up.

Since the average PvP spends quite a significant proportion of his GW2 life waiting for the queue to pop in HotM anyway, I suggest adding the mini JPs from the Ranked Maps (all the ledges, small nooks etc on Niflhel, Foefire etc). They can be decisive factors in high ranked play, but I doubt most people have the nerves to practise them in empty maps. So they might as well be added to the lobby for practise. Even the NPCs (Svanir, Lord etc.) are there, so why not the JPs?

Yes, season is over.

My hardware isn’t half as awesome, but I have the same issues with the fps drops after the patch.

Contribution can not be measured in any meaningful way. If for example you have a ranger, that constantly kites 2-3 people who are dumb enough to chase him over the map (because they can’t 1v1 him) he is effectively carrying the game without gaining any “normal” stats like Kills, Defense, Caps etc.

fishball.7204:

This thread truly showcases the PvP powerhouse that is NA gold tier.

I’m still laughing about this.

You might have dropped out when the minimum MMR was higher, and now it lowered again due to Decay and a higher number of minimum games. If that is the case, you might not get back into the leaderboard until you do another game.

Na, it was the right decision. It’s just not enough to keep the competitive community alive.

Good thing, hope this can revive the whole PvP thing a bit. Helseth’s and Sind’s tournament was actually quite good, so maybe community organized tournaments are the way to go. Also wouldn’t mind do see some of the top players back in the ladder…

If they balance PvP around the whine threads in this forum, we’re doomed.

Seems to work again.

A lot of people (on EU, no idea about NA) are having their Ranked Q abandoned for no apparent reasons. Those who don’t have the problem face extremely high queue times as a result. Hotfix pls!

When people are still whining about HoT traitlines almost 2 years after the release. Elite specs are part of the game, deal with it. Some Classes even had their Core Mechanics balanced around them (Adrenal Health…) while others didn’t, which means the Core Mechanics itself are completely imbalanced if taken without the Elite Specs.

The state of balance is the best that has ever existed in the game. That doesn’t mean its perfect, you mentioned most of the issues. However, the strongest class got a minor tonedown (warr), DHs were never really an issue at the higher level anyway. Nec and Rev are rather reliant on good team support, which makes them a bit problematic in yolo Q, but that is probably rather hard to fix (at least for Nec where the unique DS mechanic creates quite another defensive dynamic than other classes have with tons of invulns/blocks).

I feel like the Standard Power Shiro needs another rework, the nerfs on the dmg skills while maintaining the ridiculously strong haste cleave AA with sword has brought the class into quite some disbalance.

Otherwise the balance is better than pre hot, were builds liket Cele Rifle Engi or Cele DD Ele were far dominant than anything in the current Meta. Also, there are no “dead” classes atm which aren’t played at all, while during other metas there was usually at least on class left aside completely.

Great idea, already looking forward to the triple thief, double nec with no ele and double ranger double engi comps I usually get. Even without class stacking setups will be unbalanced (ele vs no ele + low mobility etc). Anet wasn’t able to introduce proper matchmaking for 4 years, how is that supposed to suddenly work now?

GladConcept.4650:

My point has nothing to do about my “bad luck” or because I “suck” or anything else. I’ll work hard again this off-season to improve my game play and try again next season.

What kind of response did you expect with a thread title like that? I played through all of the season, did yolo Q ~90% of the time, was stuck with 1 class because my skillcap is too low on alts, did not abuse decay (only ever had small decay once and that was not intentional), did not trade wins or anything. I’m also not an Esl player who can get into top 50 by carrying with duo or even Solo Q just in a few days, I’m probably on the edge of the top 250 skill wise so it was tense, I dropped out twice in the last 2 days, the last time half an hour before the season finished, yet I managed to get back in twice (yolo Q) again in two ridiculously close games (last was 414 to 390 on Nifhel with the possibility of a boss kill) and then some guy on the forum tells me I shouln’t be given the title because some kittenbags on NA are throwing games. Well, kitten off, that’s the answer I give.

Some of the points you raised are valid, but saying that nobody should get a title because you had some bad luck with the teammates is just bs. And about the excsessive decay camping, win trading etc. maybe the NA community should question itself, since it didn’t happen to that extent at all on EU and the Top 10 looks fairly representative to me (even though I’m not sure who’s behind 2-3 acc names on there). The volatility after decay will get fixed next season anyway, but if people absolutely want to cheat the system they will probably find a way.

It’s a bug with the last spot (sometimes last 2-3 spots) that has been in for the whole time. You might still be out though, since there might be more people with 1887 mmr. I had 1886 MMR and dropped out like half an hour before the season was over and had to play another game (which I won by a small margin fortunately). With same MMR it is the number of wins that counts, so it might be you or another guy with 1887 mmr on Rank 250. Hope they fix it (mb just grant the titles manually). To be safe just be above ~Rank 245 though.

Fist bump yo, that kitten is actually happening

There are uncarriable games, no doubt. The joke is though, you actually do not need to win those. If you constantly better than the other players at your MMR range you will rise eventually. Bad streaks etc. tend to happen, but you can also always climb back up again. I was in Top 250 once, dropped out, dropped to ~1650-1700 a few times, but somehow I always end up around 1800 MMR again and I’m pretty sure that’s the case because it is roughly where I belong. With the volatility your current MMR is obviously not an exact indicator of your skilllevel, but it is very unlikely to be more than ~150 off, unless you are on the guys who got into Top 250 with like ~10 games or less.

Tbh I think they should have axed another tier. GH and AG both had a triple link last time, and still hit rock bottom (AG even harder than GH). Now they both got a very similar link and probably even more frustrated players leaving, who were hoping to get linked to a bigger server.

I’d say almost anything goes when you have over 10 secs worth of Immunity, Block and Resistance while still regenerating super fast with Healing Signet + Adrenal Health and having access to decent condi cleanse. Also Mace Burst isn’t exactly low on the number of conditions applied while at the same time being easy to land. I’d say Macebow has an easier time point defending due to the Longbow F1 and the higher defence with Condi Amulets while GS Zerk/Marauder/Destroyer Builds will have to take advantage of the high mobility, which Macebow lacks. Both are strong 1v1 builds, but the Macebow tends to get outrotated and hence needs to be a bit more careful about when to leave the teamfights.

Spartacus.3192:

Simple fix. Make it that to qualify for TOP 250 rewards you must have played 50 ranked matches in Season 5. There done …GG

That would actually work, it probably won’t be done. ^^

I do not understand why devs try to force Skyhammer on us so badly. It was never a popular map. Probably the number of people who wanted Skyhammer in Ranked is even lower than the number of people who wanted the Deserted Borderlands back in WvW… It is still a terrible map. The outlay is dull, the jump pads are annoying, the secondary mechanics is still terrible (slightly less terrible than it used to be). I rarely see the map receiving more than 1-2 votes on the Mapvote. Capricorn however, while it was simple has a fairly balanced and fun secondary mechanic imo, which can help to turn a game around during the end of match. It also avoids excessive clusterkittening which is a bit too prevalent in the current meta, resulting in the excessive use of DHs (it’s not an op class, just annoying when stacked in clusterkittens and hence very popular atm).

I have about 6k games played (total), about exactly 55% win ratio in ranked, and none of the problems you mentioned. The system atm isn’t perfect (it’s to easy to get a top tier rating just through ~15 games and then sit there) but it’s far better than anything we’ve had in the seasons. People just go full emo when they get a crappy team or a loss streak once in a while. Your opponents get those teams too, you just don’t realize because you think it’s you and your superior skill carrying those games, it’s (usually) not. You get bad teammates sometimes, but they get fewer as you rise in Rating, get over it. Also avoid playing excessively on weekends.

There’s no way a decent player would go 1-9 in the placement matches. If you end up in the very low ranks you can carry easily as a good player. Even more so when you duo Q. If new/low MMR accs are so screwed, why do the top players easily get multiple accs into top 250?

The changes look decent imo. It’s what most competitive players wanted. This forum can’t be taken seriously anyway, the balance threads alone make that abundandly clear. The only thing I worry about is the duo Q, which is a significant advantage over solo Q. It will probably be hard to get into the higher regions of the ladder without a regular PvP partner.

The meta is already very heavily dependent on teamfights and clusterkittens, nerfing mobility would just overdo it further. It would be the completely wrong thing to do. It can be annoying if you’re a low mobility class like engi or condi warr, but those have other strengths.

It usually changes once every 3-4 months anyway, depending on where the bandwagon stops. Right now it’s probably FSP.

Basically twice from Miller’s Sound to Gunnar’s Hold and from Gunnar’s Hold to Gandara. Theoretically three times, I was on Deso at release but I never WvWed there because I went abroad for 4 months one week after release and when I came back my guild had already moved.

I tend to avoid quitting at all, even though it happens very rarely when I get really frustrated with my team. Many people quit too easily however. Fights in GW2 can snowball easily and one won teamfight can turn a typical pug game on its head when the losing team panicks and runs out one by one (which happens more often that it should). Might not occur in coordinated ‘E-Sports’ Matches, but rather frequently in ladder. So it’s often unwise to quit. Even a 200 point deficit can be turned around in pug matches. Point difference is a rather bad indicator anyway, the results of fights are way more important. You can easily get quite a high point deficit by losing 1-2 teamfights and missrotating at the same time, however if the teamfights were close there is still some hope.

Gj on removing the stupid stronghold, but I’d prefer Capricorn over Skyhammer for Ranked. Please consider. Skyhammer isn’t as awful as it used to be but still rather bad.

It was a good decision, since ressing was too easy for some classes. Now you either need to react faster or have better cc/stab management then the cleacing team, which is how it should be.

Stopped playing Mes in PvP long ago, when Power Shatter lost basically all viability (long before hot). I dislike playing it on Condi, and the classic Domination/Dueling/Chrono [Chaos pre Hot] doesn’t really work. With Illusions instead of dueling and the buff on the Lockdown Mantra it might actually be somewhat more viable again, but I switched to Engi ages ago and mostly stuck with it, just occasionally switching to Rev when I feel like trying to play something more mobile/bursty again.

Boonrip, Corrupt and Cleanse have always been arbitrary to a degree and probably always will be. The optimum would be an inbuilt priory checklist for each cleanse/boonrip etc. that can be customized when picking the skill, even though the combination of condition/boon + stack size + duration arguably complicates the whole equation quite a bit.

Still fun and one of the most skill based games I’ve played so far, even though the power creep has dumbed it down quite a bit. But good players will still prevail over bad ones, and there is always room for improvement.

Titles, achievements, rewards and whatever are a nice bonus, nothing that really matters, but it’s more fun to have goals when you play pvp anyway.

Started a bit late and didn’t have that much time initially, so just legend x1 this time. 57% winrate, ~95% solo q, occasional duo Q.

Started from Sapphire, played Engi and Rev (and maybe 3 games or so on Mes).

I just won two matches (in legend) and did not receive any pips twice…

The small caps are fine imo, foefire sized caps just promote snowballing because it is almost impossible to cap them back once you lost them, since every somewhat tanky player who knows how to kite it can usually delay the cap until another teammate has arrived, unless it’s 4v1 or something, which doesn’t happen in somewhat balanced matches.

The trap spamming on caps is a bit annoying, but could be fixed just by making tracks unstackable, so they’d need to be on different places or used with a different timings.

Rev and Thief mostly. Gs/Axe+Shield Warri works too. Longbow DH also does work with a more offensive Amulet (such as Marauder) but isn’t as bursty as it used to be.

Honestly: Just remove it. In most cases it’s useless anyway and only becomes somewhat useful when there is a big fight (at least 3v3) in mid. In those cases its main effect is to make the random cc overspam, which is already annoying anyway, even more effective, because it can prevent you from being able to dodge the treb shot in time.

I’d prefer another secondary mechanic, maybe similar to the bell on Capricorn which is one of the better ones imo.

I’d say the revive speed should be toned down a bit. Another option would be to increase the effectiveness of poison against downed enemies, maybe even make the res of posioned downed players impossible. That way you’d have to cleanse before ressing, giving the stomping/cleaving team an advantage. Nowadays I often see resses working despite poison, which is supposed to be countering it.