Guild Wars 2

CC, AOE …

LOL thaddeus XD

After 270 WvW level with a Thief I think I’ve discovered the existence of Cloak and Dagger.

I did only a stamp :P

I had never meet players who cheat. I had heard of glitches on SM and Keep but the tournament began three days ago and in JP is already the second time that i meeting thieves who strike you as invisible. (Im in Gandara against FS and Piken this week) Can not hit them, you can only see in history “Unknow hit you for.”

Is this the way? Use the cheat to kill players in JP? Or use glitches to flip SM or Keep?

Why Anet does not solve these problems? Some of them are also known.

I played last two days in Obsidian. EB and border are unplayable. If the server cannot let so many players fight, do more small maps …

WvW plays just fine? How big is your server? 10?
I can play fine at 9:00. Now we are lagging all. Roaming or blobbing it’s the same

What kind of issue are you specifically having that could be related to lag?
- Skill lag, teleport, etc
What server are you on?
- Gandara
Has there ever been a time when you or a friend are experiencing lag, while others in your party are not?
- Skill lag is consistent for all party
Has there ever been a time where one party in a map is experiencing lag, while other parties in that same map are not?
- No, lag effect all the map
Do you experience the lag at very specific times?
- Yes, when there is a big fight.
If so, can you estimate how many players are in each zerg?
- 25+

… cannot even kill a dolyak cause of this Amazing lag. Why you do this again Anet? The first season a lot of players complain about this lag. You add again achievements so a lot of pve players join and extend the queue.

And before you get the changes to the game’s mechanic I wish I could play maybe ….

I do not think Evasive Arcana is essential but i found it very usefull expecially when you dodge during water attunement.

And im “not locked” into the mindset that you’re required to have 30 points in Arcana" and im here to discuss with most experienced player how i can change my build for the next patch.

I played a thief and I always thought that I would not be able to play without feline grace. Now im trying to learn to play without it ….

The build someone suggest have 30 point in earth and now i have 0. Seems normal to me to try to understand why it would be interesting trying it.

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

I think the new D/D ele is going to be fine.

0/30/0/20/20

Cantrip build (as usual) but with cleansing fire to make up for the loss of cleansing water.

Interrupts causing weakness to your opponent will be a huge boon. Updraft, earthquake and lightning aura will cause weakness.

Furthermore, if they put some variation of Runes of Perplexity into sPvP, you can cause confusion on interrupt….

With this set you are gonna lose evasive arcana …

Are you sure you cannot use 2/2/2 runes? Or they are gonna change stat for a lot of runes, but i read this …

“We know that some builds rely on mixing and matching different runes to optimize a given stat, and we don’t want to stop players from doing that. Rather than limiting build diversity, we simply want the PvE rune system to be as clear and approachable as possible for new players, so we’re making it easier to understand the benefits of sticking with a single rune set.”

Hi guys,

My main is a thief but i like to play DD ele too, but im still learning to play it. I would like to know from you how the next patch will affect the DD ele’s game. How the critical damage nerf affect the game?

The only thing I can say now is that with the nerf of critical build condition build will gain in power. Because the nerf is general and not just for a single class …

jihm.2315:

Bombsaway.7198:

Theives are pretty much supposed to take you on and kill you if you are a straggler in WvW. And they do.

On the other hand, they are more or less useless in a large group and at best modestly useful in a small group fight.

The way to avoid thieves is to simply never travel alone in WvW.

Seems balanced to me.

even if so there should always be a chance for them to be defeated , i dont get this thing that they can reset a fight whenever they want and come back at you.
building your class selfishly should not mean a guaranteed win.

And Warrior? They cannot do the same?

Hi guys,

I need some suggestions ! I play a DD thief with this (i think basic) build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQJAoImQ2esTVIRx9woSqmqrAWB-z0BBYLBksAgKAM9pIaslhFRjVXDT5iIqGA-w

I like roaming alone and i have some problems with other Thief and Mesmer.
I know thief, and this build exp, have few condiction removal. I switch, when i know i have to fight against some condiction class, to the trait 4 (Shadow’s embrace)

With thieves i have some problems with condiction thief and who have my build. I try to spam blind against thief with heavy damage but i find it very difficult.

And mesmer, i’ve Always had some problems against mesmer and their clones. But i found very difficult fight against a condiction mesmer …

How do you fight against this classes?

As usuall, sorry for my bad english :P

Solori do you read what i wrote?

Seems not. First because we were 2 thieves and 1 dd ele. Second because we were able to kill him, but with invu skill all the time escape in tower, regen, and keep again in fight.

I used cripple with dagger, cripple with bow, but i sacrificed DPS for cripple :P

Nothing wrong in my build or ele build or playstyle. But Hammer Warrior have an Amazing CC. I fought against warrior and guardian with hammer. Hard fight and i get killed but … we did some damage to them. This one was OP …

Start by saying that I dont like to complain just because I cannot do something. For example, I hate the mesmer and their clones but I never “asked” a nerf because the clones make me mad and sometimes I can not even do nothing that are already dead.

This past weekend I met a DD ele and we started to move in two for the map. Yesterday there were three : I ( DD thief ) , DD ele and another friend with a thief who has to learn to play.

Meet a Warrior near anza with hammer and sword.

In three we failed to kill him. An incredible CC and he could do a combo of stun + multiple hits with the sword that he removed the 80/90 % of my life. I quickly changed tactics trying to inflict blindness and dodge the attacks to avoid the stun . As soon as his life came to 20 % he used the skill of invulnerability and entered the tower.

We decided, after a couple of attempts to attack the camp, to forcing him to leave the tower. Reaches us , he engaged us when and when he reached 20% of live again invulnerability skills and runned in the middle of the camp preventing us from fact to kill him and take over the camp.

We fought a bit and then we moved towards Mendon to kill the dolyak and to force him to come out. Same story . I changed tactics, from the blind to the elite skill to stun but nothing.

I do not consider myself a PRO player but I believe that in nine months of play as a thief i learned something. The other DD ele seems like a good player, my other friend had to learn the thief mechanics.

I found the same warrior when he was fighting another couple of players and seemed to suffer the necromancer. Ok maybe he is weak against condiction but it seems a bit OP to keep up three players and not only not getting killed, but having high probability of killing all three.

Not to mention the incredible speed that the warrior has. I do not think it is correct that there is a class with high damage, high armor and good evasion.

Surely it was a much better player than me and I enjoyed to fight him and try to improve my dodge but I think warrior hammer need a review …

Sorry for my bad english :P

With my OP thief i killed a necro with one single skill. He was scouting the hill in front of anza, watching our trebs in keep. Near the hill’s border i saw him …

F1 – Skull Fear – Pluf

LOL

Outnumbered in Ebg.

Im not the only one think this match is boring LOL

Amazing boring match.

They only fight 2+vs1 or run like chicken scared to fight !

Warrior need adjustement.

High damage and armor are good. But not this mobility. They leave and re-enter in fight fast and with no problem like thief. They cant be good in all.

And in this video we have 0 strategy, only click click and stop. He doesnt take care about enemy class or something else. He runs and click, like zombie XD

That’s the reason i dont like “brainless class”. Like warrior XD

They have to hack a lot of towers to cover the point’s gap LOL

I dont like this threat but 2 days ago when ms attacked with 2 more waves our keep in ebg i contested their keep for like 30+ minutes. Strategy, the problem is the no sense abuse

Problem solved.

Withdraw “Roll backward while healing and evade attacks. Cures immobilized, chilled, and crippled.”

XD

I think I’m very far from being a good Thief but i played for the most of time D/P build. I dont like spam combo for stealth but i think, as Quietus, is only annoying, A good player know what to do, i saw few player run in the field during the combo, but a lot use immobilize, stun, fear, chill etc etc etc.

But seems they prefer (and anet too) to be owned by a full glass cannon build that do a 20k damage in 5 seconds that see a thief pop every time in stealth.

Hi,

maybe this is a old question but i want to know if the blind inflicts with cloacked in shadow negate the effect of 2nd downed skill of some class (like engi, ranger ecc ecc).

They want all thieves play Glass Cannon.

I start to retake my old Glass Cannon build for the next update. I will expect a lot of QQ incoming XD

I dont like permastealth, but i think was fun play with a D/P build based on stealth.

Ahahaha im loving it ! XD
They have to introduce CD increased to movement skill “abuse” (like ride the lightining of elementalist). I mean, why ele cant use ride the lightining and warrior can spam their movement skill without target? Bha XD

Bha,

Only nerf for Thief. If you want limit the Permastealth spam you dont need to ruin all class game. Do you want nerf evade? Nice, so increase armor. Thief are paper class, if you nerf the movement\evade he cant do nothing.

Can you explain me why you waste a trait with Quick Recovery? I think change it is better, 1 iniziative every 10 seconds it’s useless.

Trap for detect zerg?

Start to scout instead of introduce this trap. All player like to run in zerg for loot, exp, wxp, karma. Scout dont give any type of reward so nobody do it.

I like move in map alone or in small Group. And it’s good for a commander have someone follow enemy zerg or scout some place to spot enemy. I think they have to find a way to discourage large zerg, but i think this is not the way :P

Mmmmm but you can rez a dead player\lord?
I think work only in downed player, or not? XD

Happen to me sometimes.
But i think is lag\bug. I cant finish downed player and after a bit he rally XD

My solution: change class, get a warrior\guardian and press 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1. Seems work.
Last two days i played a CondictionMancer and i used only autoattack (13sec of bleed) sometimes i tryed some skill XD

In which server do you play guys? Always, and i mean always, when i fight against someone (1vs1) ally come and become 3 vs 1 = Death or enemy run away in the middle of NPC or find another ally and come back to own you.

LOOL

And my server too is full of coward. I dont know if they think if they die in game die in the real life too. Yesterday a player of WvW guild in Gandara left me in a 3vs2 fight and run away. He said “I play with tactic and brain, we were outnumbered so i left” LOOOOOOOOL 3vs2 outnumbered.

The future of WvW is Zerg Vs Zerg or A lot vs A few. So player can be realised to kill.

Rednik, mobility become a “problem” when warrior are losing the fight and run away. Yes there are a lot of skill like cripple, chill etc etc. But when they decide to run, use GS skill, warhorn and got out of range :P

Hi guys,

what do you think about the warrior mobility? I think warrior must be a class with high damage and heavy armor but about mobility? I write here because i dont know how this work in sPvP but in WvW i see a lot of time warrior run away from combat without problem against melee or ranged class.

Dont tell me “Thief can too” yes, they can with stealth, but it’s different. They dont have so many hp and armor

I dont ask for nerf and it’s not a problem someone can do 15k of damage to me. Maybe is like you say and it’s an easy dodge. He shoots to me from behind and i never see him, plus, 2 another player jump on me.

The point is: i see a lot of player QQ about stealth and thief but there are some other class with good skill and good damage.

So … you can dodge backstab too !!!! LOL

Yes Thief ….

15k of damage with 1 skill. Not bad XD
Neither full zerk with backstab i can do 15k of damage.

Thief is good for roaming but also for zerg and better for small fight. Thief need to do damage and while other class engage enemy thief must kill and finish the fallen.

Image a fight where warriors/guardians in front line engage and take the enemies attention. Support class give backup while thieves, hidden, fight against the enemies around the fight, the medium and light armor.

Yesterday i joined in a fight 1 vs 5. They were all concentrated to the guardian, he did his work very well. 2/3 shoot with my sb and 3 falled down. A disorganized group, the other 2 players fought against guardian while i finished the downed and, in 2, killed the last 2.

Thief, as gully said, it’s a wonderfull support class for a lot of situation.

No.

Another player cant decide if you can or not play the game. If you are unpleasant to a commander and he kick you? And talk bad about you to the other commander and all commander kick you?

Just better a public kick for commander noob ! Like more of 50% players in the map request a “kick”, commander lose tag for an hour XD

I think we have enough bot in wvw map. So great injection of player not interested to play/learn wvw is a waste of time and space for who is wanna play “seriously”. They are not interested in play good for the server victory. And they dont want listen other player.

In very happy if i know my queue is caused by interested player but … It’s not. Im sure a few of them will continue to play but how many left bored by skill lag and queue?

Very good post! Unfortunately the sad truth is that they arent interested in small fight or give you a backup but only achievement. Yesterday i died like 3 time against the same group was spawn camping but they always run back in tower. Maybe they think if they die in game die in real life. Like in the film ! XD

Thanks to the achievement a lot of pve players join WvW. After 2 hours of queue (today start at 10:00 am) what you find? LAG …. horrible lag and you cant do nothing. I like play in EBG, and i know that big fight in SM make Always lag. Ok, i changed border. Try with gandara border. LAG followed me !!

This evening after a long queue i joined in ebg and … lost connection server after a long lag.

Please Anet do something for this …

Condiction cleaning is the only usefull benefits of stealth. But we lose a condiction every 4 sec. Try to image a fight against a condiction necro or warrior, with their bow. I can clean bleed and 4 second after i have again bleed. And Maybe something else if the necro use AOE skill of scepter/dagger. And staff? With fear? >_<

I play D/p build but i think im not OP. Maybe i have a lot of chance to leave the fight. Good player dont have problem to defeat me. When i GO in stealth they dodge, move, use AOE, immobilize skill ecc ecc

VaaCrow.3076:

Falassion.8031:

LOL drama. For a game. LOL again

You should have seen our last matchup thread xD

Bah, i was only talking without “cry” XD Last week i didnt enjoy play with vizu so i switch to pve, collecting dragonite for my ascendant.
Tomorrow i will see if this match can be funny XD

LOL drama. For a game. LOL again

Xvs1 or nothing vanash. Or 1+guards vs 1. A bit bored by last match :s

Dyno do you play only in zerg or you do, sometimes, a solo/small group roaming? A doly doesnt have all time guards and you can protect a camp without fight near guards. Not all players like to run near the NPC when they see someone :P

What?

I dont know why so many player have problem with stealth. Use AOE or spam you attack 1. A thief stealthed far from you is not a problem. Yea stealth give hp and iniziative regen, lose condiction and so? A stealthed, invisible thief cant do damage.

And about contested area … If a thief want CAP an area, do it without stealth. Simple.

Maybe he was escorting doly or protect a supply camp.. This can happen Mr.

Ehi how is possible that Eze get an infraction? O.o anyway, if this will be another boring week like the last one (only zerg, no small fight if they are not 4 vs 1) ill quit wvw and play something else.

I found very boring play against vizunah … Hope deso are a bit different.