Guild Wars 2

Silver/White swords on Towers/Supply Camps/Keeps indicate that it is under current attack by a force smaller than 5, this can be either NPC’s or Players. Trebuchets can effect this too.

Orange Swords, Indicate a larger scale battle of more than 5. These can happen anywhere on the map.

Long story short, investigate every sword battle.

Commander Name: Gavello
Server: Desolation
Primary Tactics Used: Over-Arching WvW Strategy, Mongolian Horde, Meta-game
Works alone or with other Commanders: Always has entourage of at least 3 commanders following, since I don’t have a tag.
Style of Commanding: Roman Legion
Way you communicate best: Teamspeak, open to all server inhabitants.

One sec let me get out my copy and paste response to this kind of thread.

Dear sir/madam

We are sorry to inform you that the jumping puzzles in WvW are active pvp zones that with completion reward pvp items. This is intended by design and will not be changing anytime soon. Might I recommend you bring some friends with you to aid in the jumping puzzle?

Congrats Blacktide on making it to tier 1 for next week. We will be eagerly awaiting the battles ahead next week.

Ele specced into increased aoe coverage. Fire + Earth abilities = Death to wall siege emplacements.

Jeheil.2516:

Get rid of orange swords….but replace them with blue swords.

Contemplate.

Personally I’d just prefer it be changed to red swords….

..to match the blood of my enemies.

YOu obviously have never discovered the joy of 4 man tower snipe teams. 4 guys set up ram/catapult at tower, no orange swords are made due to the lower number of players, they snipe the tower all by themselves.

In the top tiers, we are now paranoid of ever seeing white swords on a map because it means we have to have scouts checking out any instance of them.

Orange swords just show where the major engagements of enemy forces are and help co-ordinate those not in guilds and such to where they are needed, especially when theres no commanders on the map (which even in T1, sometimes, there isn’t)

Feel free to send me messages on the forum or ingame also and we can try and sort you out.

Moving into the last night/day. Still anyone’s game between Vizunah and Desolation.

Can’t wait, it’s going to be close!

I’m going to say this right now, DO NOT switch the outmanned buff with the orb bonus. That will make the orbs useless since no one will care for a small bonus to karma and such. They already have bonuses in the game by point scoring.

I’ll quote what i said in another topic:

To avoid the advantage it gives to teams that are already winning it might be more beneficial to give it a point value so lets say an extra +15 point gain but we could make it a bit more interesting by instead of being in keeps which don’t always transfer very often but inside towers which are much more plausible targets.

This should make the orb something that changes hands much more often due to it being in something that hasn’t got 2 walls and a tonne of siege guarding it. Since all the towers are within easy reach for another faction.

Make the orbs do something different but don’t give it a rewards bonus, that doesn’t add anything to WvW.

I don’t think giving a karma boost is helpful at all. I’m sorry i couldnt care less about small insignificant boosts that are not related to the wpvp.

To avoid the advantage it gives to teams that are already winning it might be more beneficial to give it a point value so lets say an extra +15 point gain but we could make it a bit more interesting by instead of being in keeps which don’t always transfer very often but inside towers which are much more plausible targets.

This should make the orb something that changes hands much more often due to it being in something that hasn’t got 2 walls and a tonne of siege guarding it. Since all the towers are within easy reach for another faction.

Opinions, Thoughts?

So…your complaining that you couldn’t take on 7 other players by yourself?

4th times the charm.

@Chewbiduhwa.9756

I would worry too much, I think RUIN personally prefers to be singled out simply so others aren’t receiving the flak. Kinda like the whole Dark Knight routine lol. RUIN is use to being hated by a lot of groups in many games we play but we know Desolation itself is glad to have us so that’s all that matters personally.

But yea, love having you IRON folks fighting alongside us. As well as any other guilds who join us in our teamspeak, it’s always open anytime.

@Alasseon.3958 The only thing I’d personally like is there to be no separate brackets, merge the EU and US brackets together and we’d have no complaints about it since all the WvW servers are in the US anyways. That way everyone is on an even playing field.

@Genev.2450 Desolation has still great respect for Blacktide, they are the epitome of Gentlemen and Scholars. So get your butts up to tier 1!

Ps. Love the above conversation lol. I smell a photoshop idea coming on.

I don’t particularly see it as an alliance if we have the majority point earning potential. That’s just them trying to a eat a piece of the biggest pie.

Also more posty scores.

I don’t have a commander tag.

Yet I’ll be leading a whole maps forces through complex strategic hits in which I’ll actually have commanders following ME. The commander tag is a crux for most people, to bolster their own failure when it comes to attacking keeps and such. Though when you have multiple commanders working together its a very powerful tool in letting people who are joining the battleground know whats going on.

My sympathy goes towards those servers that are having these issues but stopping the sale of the tag will not fix the issue. Majority of the time, you don’t need that shiny blue icon. Just some good people who can follow cardinal directions and points on the map.

Morgoth.4573:

I cant even get back on Desolation now where the rest of my guild is because its full :/

Every now and then ANet relaxes the full cap on servers so you can either wait for one of those moments or try and transfer late at night when there’s less people on.

But yes, please report any trolls and ignore the comment, don’t quote or comment on it.

Had some fun last night with some golem rushes, thanks for everyone who listened to my incoherent rambling as we attacked keeps

RUIN’s official dress code is white with black accents, bonus points for more stormtrooper-ish it looks.

We really should get Archaos (Our GM) to dress in all black to be Darth Vader

Since the topic is slightly moving into feasibility for US servers moving to the EU bracket, I’ll shine a little light.

Ruin has been approached by several guilds from the US wanting to hear our opinions on the EU and are looking at joining the bracket to escape the crazy kitten going on in the US (Which is in 10x worse condition than the EU bracket).

Just give it time, I still think the EU bracket is fundamentally more balanced and with time I can definitely see more guilds moving over to it creating more competitive servers.

Back on topic, Match is great so far, keep it up all 3 servers.

Katsumoto.9452:

Is it me or did VS just exploit into Desolation Borderlands garrison? The inner walls weren’t touched and within seconds of breaching the outer wall they own it…?

Anytime you see a keep be taken fast without realizing it is of two reasons.

1. You didn’t sweep so Mesmers stayed in and portaled a zerg inside.
2. A small sub 5 man group attacked the doors by themselves and blew the doors down without swords appearing on the map.

1 is fine but i really wish ANet would fix no 2 to make it so that if any gates are being attacked it immediately shows up on the map as swords.

You think the guards before they died would raise the alarm or something.

Ps. It’s rarely hacks/glitches so don’t throw that out there without proof. And even then, report it, don’t post it.

Good luck Seafearers, more competition the better. Especially love seeing low pop servers becoming WvW hubs.

Once servers are locked down it should be less of an issue, most competent commanders that are playing WvW day in, day out tend to be recognized and the majority tends to figure out who to follow.

Heck, its nice anyways not having a commander tag and leading 3 commanders around because I outrank them in guild lol. I really should get one instead of using my ghetto tag (LFG)lol.

Don’t know if this has been suggested before but i believe it could at least give a somewhat fair handicap. Block tower/keep upgrades depending on position on the leaderboard. So if your 3rd you have access to all the upgrades but if your first you only have access to the first tier of upgrades. Making it more difficult to hold those keeps and towers that are giving you that point gain. now if you were say 3rd but go up to 2nd position you still keep your upgrades you had you just can’t upgrade to tier 3 anymore only to 2. So losing that keep or tower means even if they recapture it they can’t reupgrade to full cause of their position.

I don’t know this is just a random rambling suggestion.

tl:dr I’m a rambling man

Can’t tell if serious or trolling, either way, stop it your wasting supply.

@glor

We are still expected to move to tier 1 since this morning

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

I don’t think there’s going to be enough point gain from Elona to change that.

onion.4213:

I’m curios, what the hell were you expecting? It’s common knowledge that we have no night cover and here you are looking down your nose at us and saying how disapointed you are with the fights you get at night. Hello? We have no night crew, if we did we would be having this conversation. I’m not sure if you are trolling but your ham fisted attempt at being condescending smells of troll to me.

I wouldn’t necessarily say that Kodash has a tonne of night coverage either but it doesn’t stop their night time players from joining the maps, forming up a groups and attacking our camps and towers, heck they even got some keeps a few times. Contrary to popular belief, no servers are completely dead at night, you don’t ever see a server going down to low pop, there’s always people playing even at night.

The difference is that kodash still has i guess the best word I can think of is tenacity. In other tiers too we saw this with servers like Blacktide. Is it too much to expect that the tier 1 server that was coming down to tier 2 would be like the same? Especially the server that supposedly has the one of the larger english speaking populations. I think it was a fair expectation.

Bobbi.6801:

And to RUIN: please don’t bash FS. You do see we have litteraly no one in WvW the entire night, and wake up to not only EB, but also ALL bordelands 100% in your control? That’s not because we lack skill, is it? We are good at daytime. but its limits to how much uphill back-capping we can do with such a huge lead. People don’t even bother going to WvW anymore until late afternoon because no one cares to join a map 100% conquered by the enemy server.. Atleast with vizuna sqaure we still had some keeps since they didnt have morning cappers. :/

The reason you see us falling so behind at prime time now compared to this weekend is simply that people don’t bother anymore. At least that’s my impression after talking to alot of WvW people in our server. we have been fighting bravely and optimistic against nightcapping servers for weeks, and its getting stupid.

Im from FS btw.

Ruin isn’t bashing FS, we are just forming our own observations of the fighting we are getting at night. To use this weeks battle to compare, even though we may end up owning everything at a certain point at night we will still be dealing with a Kodash zerg that borderland hops, attacking towers, supply camps and anything possible to get point gain. We would love to see FS doing the same thing, which would actually force us to split our forces and most likely would lose some ground. But FS doesn’t so it basically becomes 1v1 which we are able to deal with by counter zerging.

Again, from what we were told Far Shiverpeaks was the server to beat in this tier and we’ve just been a bit disappointed by the turn-outs we are getting from them at night.

tl:dr We aren’t bashing FS, we want them to get better.

Gray.3725:

Epic finish of an Epic day. Congratulations to every Desolation fighter on our homelands!

It’s not about the golems, it’s about the message.

I see your golems Gray and raise you Ruins golem party last night we had. We only planned to put down 10 but once i put those down, other people started putting there’s down too so it kinda got out of control lol.

Also our message was to put a Alpha Golem in every home.

You sure? http://i.imgur.com/5KTtB.jpg

We just hit a keep with 22 golems, the reinforced doors fell so so fast lol.

Jaytee.6357:

God Save the Queen

As a Englishman and a Canadian i echo this statement.

Goes off on some imperial march on the battlefields for glory and honor

If your an English speaking guild and are sticking in Europe, Desolution is the place to be with an active night presence. We’ll be in Tier 2 next week again so we aren’t quite at Tier 1 yet but we are moving up the ranks. We just need a few more solid world vs world guilds.

But then again, I find asking these kind of question’s pointless in forums it always devolves into COME TO MY SERVER!, heck even I just did it right there. Rather than ask on the forums, look for other big guilds that are heavily focused on World vs World and get their opinions, if you can’t get along with other guilds on a server it will be a tough transition.

Either way, sad to see you leave a server, we know what your going through (we’ve been through it twice now).

Desolation is the unofficial commonwealth server so lots of English folks here. There’s the odd foreign speaking guilds but they tend to keep to themselves and speak English in map chats.

@Knasher.5607

The official Ruin guilds are:

Ruinous (The Main guild)
RuinGaming
Ruin Gaming
Ruin Hammer Squad
Ruin Elite Purple Cobras

There maybe others, I tend to lose track since I can’t be in all of them due to the guild limit. Not all of them are full, in fact i believe none of them are right now due to we had to cull out alot of players after transferring due to bandwagoners/non-transfers/in-active.

Arena Net can we please have a last logged in column for guild? For large guilds like us it’s absolutely vital to have.

Fleas.6472:

Yes, Ruin will be a huge help. Because they have a lot of people.

However, once again they like to move around all the time. So they help this weekend next weekend they will move to servers in Japan. Because in Japan they play in a timezone that is what Ruin is looking for next week. Then again, Japan doesn’t know who Ruin is yet.

Then there will be another post on the forums to come join Ruin in Japan. Rinse and repeat….anyone see the vicious cycle yet?

Can you please stop calling Desolation the server to go to? Just call it ruined server.

I can’t wait until they leave Desolation also. Big guilds cause lots of problems period. They cause problems because they recruit quantity over quality.

Transfer to a server where you don’t know anyone or know the guilds. Less chance of having issues.

You obviously have a personal grudge against us which is fine, but don’t derail the thread as such, and definitely don’t do it with incorrect information.

Ruin was originally with Northern Shiverpeaks, AFTER every single major wvw guild and alliance moving from that server did Ruin decide to go to ET due to the queue times which for a big guild like Ruin is a huge issue. Why play on a server you can’t play on with your friends?

After building ET up to a Tier 1 server, Ruin got fed up of what was being fed to them from other guilds on the server not naming names with excuses and such and it became apparent that Ruin was the only reason we were in T1 and as has been said earlier, we can’t carry a server without getting any rest. Other guilds have to step up. Side Note: Ruin has never been and never will be apart of an alliance, as evidence has shown they all end up collapsing anyways and are filled with too much trouble, we are happy to work with them for the betterment of the server but that’s it.

So we left to a place where we don’t have to worry about do we have enough night coverage or do we have enough players in the borderlands covering them while we keep the eternal battlegrounds on lockdown. And so far….It’s been pretty darn great to be in a server that’s very well populated with like minded guilds and players that have the drive to be no.1 because what else are you going to shoot for as a server?

Slayer Lord.5023:

Is Ruin still on ET or the rest of AA? I am curious if your talking strategy or just people randomly going to attack whatever.

Ruin has left the NA bracket and has joined Desolation in the EU Bracket.

Also OP could you at least spell the server correctly?

Hey hey hey, we only secured the Eternal Battlegrounds, you guys took the borderlands lol

For all the Ruin members reading…

MONGOLIAN CHARGE EVERYTHING!

Well Ruin is having a blast borderlands jumping, capping half the map and then moving onto the next one.

1. Battlefield Awareness (if you can’t direct your forces where needed, your a hindrance)

2. The ability to big picture strategize (Being able to play the other 2 servers off each other, know when to retreat from a position etc.)

3. Be apart of a large guild (I’ve yet to see a commander that who was not in a large guild know what they were doing. The pug commanders aren’t too bad but the small guild ones are the worst cause they apply small guild tactics to their zerg of 60 people)

I’d put communication 4th, no amount of communication is going to help unless you know HOW to play as a commander first. It’s just going to make you look worse by communicating bad orders.

My 2 cents anyways.

SherlockBrolmes.4725:

I don’t have a lot of respect for TA or Ruin in a game with posted rankings where everyone can instantly transfer to join up with the zerg. The talent will concentrate for maximum pubstomping into a single zerg server or two (or three). If TA or Ruin want to impress anyone, they should migrate to Kaineng, and see if they can come back and beat HoD.

I don’t care if you all stick together. If you really are that talented, you should be able to jump ship to any server and still make #1 overall.

Do that, and I’ll gladly sing your praises.

You call out Ruin yet they’ve done exactly what your saying. They were originally on Northern Shiverpeaks, had alot of bandwagoners on that server but then they went to Eredon Terrace which was one of the 3 new servers (a.k.a Kaineng). They worked their way from the bottom to the top tier, it’s only very recently that Eredon Terrace gets close to being a high-pop server, there still largely a medium one.

Or am i just detecting a bias here?

On Topic: Personally it’s up to TA what they wish to do, all i know from experience is that the longer they wait to make such a decision the harder it is to implement since a move of such a scale would take at least a week to sort out due to not everyone logging in every single day.

Can we get a score update? Dieing to know at work what the score currently is.

False, learn to place your rams correctly, if you put them far enough out they won’t get hit by the catapult and will still be able to hit the door.

But really if there’s a catapult defending the door, you really should be building catapults instead of rams.

NEWSFLASH: You can’t do anything about spy’s, it comes with the meta-game.

Just because you stopped allowing people to transfer doesn’t stop people being on your server and relaying information to enemy guilds.

If i had a penny every time i saw a thread about spying…..

Low Population isn’t stopping Eredon Terrace which has a similar population……

Just depends on the amount of WvWer’s you have on the server.

Just to clarify how the influence system works.

The reason it is limited to a server is because guilds are account bound you can have people on different servers and each server has its own influence counter. You never lose your influence when you transfer server, it just stays on that particular server.

So you can transfer and if it doesnt work out you cans imply return toy our old server and your influence would already be there.

PS. Our guild has fulled maxed out upgrades on our old server yet we haven’t been over there for a while now, though we’ve already recovered all the upgrades on our new server. The sooner you transfer, the less of a problem it becomes since you can then start earning influence on the new server sooner.

Also is there a reason for politics level 5? Doesn’t seem like it does anything, might buy it at one point when we have a tonne of influence left over at some point after finishing our last architecture upgrade.

I’ve always viewed the pvp’s as this

SPVP: Tactics

WVW: Strategy

Both are pretty hardcore. It’s just easier to jump in on WvW for the regular player. Start joining guilds that have a real focus on wpvp and you’ll see how different the dynamics are and the various team play is.

Or you just posted this thread to troll.

zerospin.8604:

I’ve had it with a hundred people banging their heads on the walls of a fully upgraded SM, while they should be taking camps and keeps. Always going for the large shiny target, like moths for a street lamp. Failing to realize SM is unimportant, it’s just the icing on the cake, and that holding it puts you in fact at a disadvantage. But nevermind that.

I have a much better system for SM. It should grant you NO points at all. Not 50 not 35, not even 5. INSTEAD it should give you a % boost from ALL OTHER keeps and camps you control. Say, a 25-50% boost. So, if an objective normally gives you 10 points, then if you hold Stonemist, you will get say, 15 points for that objective.

This means, if the enemy holds SM, then taking away their keeps, will render the SM useless for them, and hopefully more people would go for the smaller targets, instead of the big one in the middle.

Your forgetting however all the additional benefits of holding stonemist are however. The ability to siege various targets using trebuchets, a centralized way-point when its upgraded and yes 35 points, attacking a castle/keep is a huge point gain that’s much harder to take away.

I do like the decrease in points from 50 to 35 (maybe even to 30, i don’t believe stonemist should give too many additional points than a keep due to all the advantages it brings already) However giving a bonus to all the towers and keeps a side owns would just compound a total map domination’s points even higher.

@aceventura

That was a hilarious day, we even had a gm give us a visit after a bit. We just wanted to welcome the horde to the server for Christmas. People tend to forget what their signing up for on a pvp server otherwise roll on PvE.

@adaneshade

And in what other servers could we recruit a high population of Oceanic players that are not currently tied to any sort of alliance? Also spying pfft please, every server is doing that. I just read a forum thread of henge guys using up supply in SBI’s keeps (Which I don’t condone, using up supply is a kitten move).

@Arakini

Yup Haters gonna hate, nothing new really.

I AM.2186:

The fact that they are even competing against HoD is an accomplishment in itself. That’s literally like you watching the movie “300” and laughing at the Spartans for losing.

Not really… Being on a medium pop server allows them to get more of their members (that are in VOIP) into the matches than the TA on HoD can due to the over population of HoD.

So the fact that HoD can STILL perform as well as they do despite a lower ratio of “guild” vs “militia” is pretty spectacular. AA has already shown they’re not willing to work with the other people on their server by leaving 1 server already.

If ET gets to high population, I bet their rank actually drops.

Not particularly, ET already has this strong co-ordination in TS and the addition of more players most likely means they will fold into one of the core guilds just boosting the effect.

Also I’ve never really seen much of the HoD “militia”, whenever ET faced them, if i was defending a keep it was most likely being headed by one of the major guilds on there. So I believe there simply in a similar situation.

I’ll let you guys into a little secret on how they got up there…..
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Psss… yes hush hush
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Look down a little further, this is classified information you know.
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They swarmed into your spawn and b-lined for it until they got a mesmer up there who could teleport the rest, many bothans (and Ruin) died obtaining this information so remember their sacrifice.

I believe this video is more about just mocking the server for constantly stating that this was legitimate siege placement so they agreed, alright, your right, lets go up there ourselves if that’s the case.