Due to Power Rev Nerfs AGAIN! I was gonna protest the nerf by playing another MMO (other than FFXIV) so I installed Archage.. After 1 hour of playing, I uninstalled… It’s crap compared to GW2 (or FFXIV) so I guess I’m stuck with these nerfs…
The graphics were just so horrible, the combat was bleh, It was no where near GW2 lol. I’ll play a nerfed Rev over that game.
Would’nt you know it, got queud with the same Guard that AFK’ed on the first screenshot and here he is again… AFK lol.
50% Damage nerf
33% Damage nerfBros lets just be reasonable here. The numbers alone suggest those skills were just freaking insane. That’s not the case. Even in the best circumstances, that’s not the case.
A 33% damage nerf to precision strike means the auto attack will out damage and outclass it by a LARGE margin in near every scenario other than all of the attack landing on one opponent and it can’t hit a target in stealth no matter how close they are… and the auto attack has also been nerfed by about 30%…
It’s not even reasonable. Get real.
EDIT: That means staff #5 would have been nerfed for 15% twice, and then after that was somehow not enough (take into account how this attack performs) it was then decided that it needed another 50% nerf. So at launch this attack was doing near 300% more damage than ideal?
WOW
So.. nerf Sword 1 autoattacks by 50%? Just kidding please ANET don’t do it!! Don’t nerf the only dps skill us Rev have left!
I think what he’s trying to say is 2 teams of 2 are purposely queuing at the same time so they have better chance of being together. Sure they might be on opposite teams or not on the same game at all, but half the time it works. And when it does, its pretty much gg for the 5 randoms.
My suggestion if your a solo’er, wait 1 week or be prepared to get farmed.
With Season 5 coming, and for the very few stubborn masochist players who is planning on using Rev for pvp, Knowing that any other class would be better. How many here think you will be asked “Hey, you got any other class you can play besides Rev?” and will you be willing to change to another job.
A lot of ppl literally Akitten (While I was on my last 10 pips to legend) since they saw a hammer on my Rev’s back costing me a ton of pips. Now will this same ppl AFK just bec we choose to play Rev?
And yes, i’ll be using Hammer again this season, prove this fools you can reach top 250 using a overly nerfed Rev using a “Crap” weapon.
What this class do now other then auto-attacking….
Very good cc, good damage, very good presence in team fight, buff teammates, very good mobility, still good at 1v1
Damage isn’t that amazing now after all the nerfs sword received. CC isn’t that good either (very good you say?), try Warrior and see how easy and accessible CC is.
The buffs can be given by other classes that also bring more, just to give you an example a warrior bring might easily, actually good DPS and Banners.
I believe you just play PvP, in PvP sure it might be half decent. In PvE, the rotation and everything the class can bring are simply awful. Almost everything relies on auto-attack because besides Precise Strike (only if target is alone) your dps will suck.Hell even Unrelenting Assault does the damage of 3 auto-attacks while it used to be more interesting and powerful before even after some nerfs. Now it’s just a bad joke.
There are reasons why you don’t see many revenants now and why it is not very much wanted in PvE groups.I was talking about pvp.
In pve Yes, it lack a bit of dps to be at pair of DH, and need some buff there.
But you can’t say it doesnt have Group support since it can provide protection or fury and might, 6k dps to your Group thanks by assasination presence and, Yes, good cc, can share resistance, and pull conditions from teammates.
In pve revenant need just some dps imcrease.In pvp I can bet 50g it will still be a metà dps build
Well Obviously it will still the be meta dps build for most revs, coz Hammer apparently sucks, mace and axe are useless. What are you gonna do, use sword/shield + Sword/Sword?
Anet is going to keep nerfing Rev to the ground, it’s their way of saying “Hey! Get a Clue! Go play another class! What class you say? oh idk maybe Guard? lol We just buffed Vanilla guard right? There you see, now u can either faceroll with both Vanilla and DH!”.
I use thief now for solo roaming. It’s faster than a rev, easily disengages combat, deals almost as much damage as a Full glass Rev, and can easily handle up to 3 players without stealth. And the best thing? I can literally stand in front of a reaper and attack him head on and take no damage while clearing 1 condi per second. Thief can literally kill any class, while as power rev you have to try 10 times harder to kill the guy before their condi’s kill you.
I know your asking for a build, but do yourself a favor, use a different class lol.
If you still want to use Rev for Group WvW. Prob Mallyx/Glint with durability runes to spam boons and resistance. With the upcoming buff on Pain Absorption, you can trait Herald so when you stun break you also break stuns for your allies making it even more useful.
But honestly, a tempest Auramancer build can easily clear all those condi’s and heal for a ton. While a Vanilla guard provides more accurate stability (Rev has to spam a stupid Dwarf Road) and stun breaks so why bother. I run Vanilla shout Guard on my guilds WvW runs and I find it better than my Rev using Mallyx/Glint or Mallyx/Jalis.
I think there’s forums rules that says you can’t post names on of the accused here :P. I just hope ANET is doing something about this AFK’ers and DC’ers and PPL are actually reporting this ppl for Idle Player or Match Manipulation.
Been reporting every single person who just afk’s on base bec either the enemy is ahead 50 points, too many “insert non meta classes here”. And yet still getting teamed up with the same ppl. Take for example this guy below. Pretty sure this DH is doing it routinely since he did this in the first 3 mins. Is Anet doing anything about this guys?
he saw we had 3 thieves while were waiting to start, didn’t say anything or asked anyone to change class. Then suddenly tells everyone to let them win and afk in our base when home got double teamed.
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Just did 10 unranked matches with full zerker, max dps, scholar runes Hammer Power Shiro Rev, won 7 out of the 10 match. Guess they weren’t thinking.
Did season 4 amber to legend using Hammer Rev (sometimes with no condi clear) guess all those players who gave me pips weren’t thinking.
The trick is to max out on dmg amulet and runes, and think like a Longbow Ranger. Fire at max distance and be sure to use Impossible Odds on your Hammer Auto’s. If they start going for you, Hammer 3 and 5 usually gets them. Of course you can just switch to your 2nd weapon and finish them off or get away.
Condi Rev is garbage compared to other condi classes. That’s why only Power Rev is viable “At Master Tiers of PVP”. And no, don’t go showing a youtube vid of some ESL’er using Mallyx and condi, 1 Rev isn’t going to represent the rest of us.
Revenant is officially a dead class lol. The only thing its good for now is completing Living Story 3 Map Dailies.
Why?
- Very predictable and slow move sets makes your “powerful attacks” miss.
- Nerfed to the ground
- Mediocre damage
- Mediocre healing
- Only 3 out of 6 of its traitline is worth using.
- Easily killed by Condi’s even if you use Mallyx and spam resistance
- Easily killed by Stunners. (Warrior, PI Thief, Macro Mesmer etc)
- Easily Bursted (Macro Mesmer, Thieves )
- Easily killed by anything that uses Shields, Reflects, Blocks, Invul, Evade.
- The only good Revenant weapon left is the “Spear”. Hammer – nerfed, Sword – nerfed, Staff – nerfed, Shield – nerfed, Axe – does not need a nerf coz it sux to begin with.
- Only 2 out of the 5 Legends are worth using and theyre both nerfed.
- Your better off using any other class. Even a Tempest is going to be better than Rev.
Why should you play Rev in Season 5
- You need to lose MMR
- Your miss the feeling of losing
- Your fingers need a workout.
- You haven’t tried hard in a while.
Only Hammer 2 was nerfed, its still a great Rev weapon. Couple it with a full zerker max Burst build and you can deal up to 5 digit dmg on a single CoR easy.
Plus it has a range of 1200, and can hit 5 targets. The only downside is it fire’s very slowly. So if you fighting enemies with shields, that’s when you switch to sword auto and sword 3.
PI is a great trait, does it need a nerf? No.
Why? because it has another great trait on the same bracket that you have to choose over it which is Escapist Absolution – remove 1 condi per evade every second.
Btw I use the condi on evade one.
One of the Dev’s involved in the making the balance mains a DH and was badly beaten by a Rev.
As a Hammer Rev main, none of these nerfs affect me. I like that Mallyx’s Pain Absorption has a stun break now which is a BUFF! and its not just in PVP, so it makes running Mallyx in WvW less irritating. The Sword 2 Nerf is barely noticeable since it barely works as it is.
I’m actually glad they nerfed Staff, maybe more Rev’s will pick up a Hammer now and make it meta.
Just read the Rev changes. As a Hammer Rev (don’t care about Staff) I welcome the changes. Mallyx Pain absorption now has a stun break is great! Will it make it worth switching over Shiro, we shall see.
As for all the staff rev’s, all I gotta say, join the Hammer Train.
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DH as a class by itself gives you the biggest advantage to win, you just need to know how to play Meta DH. Even a 5 Trap zerker DH has a better chance of winning against any class “On Comparable Skill”.
Compare this to lets say Power Rev, it’s easily countered by Condi’s, Thieves, other Rev’s, DH, Chrono’s etc.
or Auramancer Ele, which literally is a walking free kill. You just autoattack it to death.
This is just a load of nonsense. DH’s are countered by tempest. Why in the world would u outright lie to the OP? Medi trappers have kittenty mobility, they offer no group support other then the few boons they dish out. thier dps is mostly shared between longbow and trap. longbows which can be hardcounterd by area denial and anybody who knows how to dodge, use stability, invulnerability, teleport, evade etc.
U are litterally telling me that auramancer elementalsit is a free kill? U are telling me that auramancer with 40 percent damage reduction through protection and heals+regens on auras is a free kill on auto attack? u think pro teams would use a class that can litterally die to an auto attack?
U are telling me that a slow class with almost no group support. with abilities that can be negated to projectile denial. Is better then a class with mobility? offers support through regen, swiftness and aoe healing? can actually ress allies, has moderate dps and a reliable burst on bristeback every 20 seconds? U are telling me that a dragonhunter somehow is better carrier then a class that is so versartile? U are telling me that the OP will be able to somehow have the answers to downed allies, allies low on health, will be able cleanse conditions, has the mobility to disenage. Yet somehow medi trapper is better class to carry?
You obviously have never fought a Meta DH that can literally solo 3 ppl in Legend Div or even attempted to use a meta DH build and play around it to see how powerful it is. DH mains will never tell you that, because they don’t want the nerf.
this is such an exagaration, such an unlikely scenario. that bringing it up almost constitutes as a lie. Yes u have people like kitten that can do these amazing 1 v X feats on their meditrapper. But same can be said for any insert……….(top tier level and or ESL level player on a meta/great build that is not outright support) Heck tarcis on his warrior 1 v 2’ed and got a kill on olrun at pro league level.
medi trapper does not compare as a carry class .it’s not even just about how strong it is. U do not carry people solely with dps or aoe dps. Having a more balanced versartile class that heals+supports+moderate damage and mobility to actually quickly cap or contest points is better then a class that does big boom.
The goal with carrying is to actually play the game to such a level that u with your efforts can allow lesser skilled players to ride on your back.
Your going to base your assumptions on a video about 2 randoms? The OP is asking which profession he should play in PVP. I’m assuming he wants to win, and I’m giving him the best answer. Meta DH gives you the best chances of winning on a soloQ with a “bunch of Randoms” “IF you know how to play Meta DH”. If your just gonna spam traps, hoping Dragon Maw can get you 10 points, as you fire your bow then your better of playing other jobs. Ppl are gonna be circling around you and farming you.
Meta DH’s aren’t going to post PVP pwnage vids on youtube. Why? because they don’t want the nerf. That’s why they keep saying its “balanced” so they can get a free pass for another season.
DH as a class by itself gives you the biggest advantage to win, you just need to know how to play Meta DH. Even a 5 Trap zerker DH has a better chance of winning against any class “On Comparable Skill”.
Compare this to lets say Power Rev, it’s easily countered by Condi’s, Thieves, other Rev’s, DH, Chrono’s etc.
or Auramancer Ele, which literally is a walking free kill. You just autoattack it to death.
This is just a load of nonsense. DH’s are countered by tempest. Why in the world would u outright lie to the OP? Medi trappers have kittenty mobility, they offer no group support other then the few boons they dish out. thier dps is mostly shared between longbow and trap. longbows which can be hardcounterd by area denial and anybody who knows how to dodge, use stability, invulnerability, teleport, evade etc.
U are litterally telling me that auramancer elementalsit is a free kill? U are telling me that auramancer with 40 percent damage reduction through protection and heals+regens on auras is a free kill on auto attack? u think pro teams would use a class that can litterally die to an auto attack?
U are telling me that a slow class with almost no group support. with abilities that can be negated to projectile denial. Is better then a class with mobility? offers support through regen, swiftness and aoe healing? can actually ress allies, has moderate dps and a reliable burst on bristeback every 20 seconds? U are telling me that a dragonhunter somehow is better carrier then a class that is so versartile? U are telling me that the OP will be able to somehow have the answers to downed allies, allies low on health, will be able cleanse conditions, has the mobility to disenage. Yet somehow medi trapper is better class to carry?
You obviously have never fought a Meta DH that can literally solo 3 ppl in Legend Div or even attempted to use a meta DH build and play around it to see how powerful it is. DH mains will never tell you that, because they don’t want the nerf.
DH as a class by itself gives you the biggest advantage to win, you just need to know how to play Meta DH. Even a 5 Trap zerker DH has a better chance of winning against any class “On Comparable Skill”.
Compare this to lets say Power Rev, it’s easily countered by Condi’s, Thieves, other Rev’s, DH, Chrono’s etc.
or Auramancer Ele, which literally is a walking free kill. You just autoattack it to death.
Meta DH, Meta Druid, Scrapper, Daredevil, Chrono and Berserker are all great choices with DH on top.
Ele, Necro and Rev’s suck since Ele is mostly support and cant hold a node on its own, Necro’s always get targeted first, and Rev’s is overly nerfed to the point it’s prob the least suggestable class to bring to a pvp match.
These ppl thinking Ele’s and Rev are great obviously never solo queud.
in before more revenant nerfs.
Can one of the top titles be “Saltiest Legend”?
I’m loving this already, now we got pvp currency to waste on ascended gear too? finally never going to PVE ever again! PVP / WvW Onry!
Try spamming hundred blades in pvp, lets see how far that gets you.
No blood lust
Super hard to get around
No one goes to them but ppters
The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage
every keep can be glitched into
Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx
I agree on everything he said, Desert BL is a waste of space that should be rotated with EOTM (just so the dev’s who developed Desert BL don’t feel bad). EOTM map is way better than Desert BL.
1.) Go to PVP and use the Shiro/Glint invocation/devastation/herald meta build.
2.) If you find Rev is ok for you, Use those tomes of Knowledge. Get him to 80 asap.
3.) Use 250 Proof of Heroics (WvW) to fully unlock Herald Traits for PVE or Go to HOT maps and (lol) farm 250 hero points.
4.) With Glint’s F2 Ability, Facet of Elements and Shiro’s impossible Odds, you will be almost as fast as a shortbow, shadowstepping perma swiftness thief.
Get zerker, you will not regret it.
I would undo every single nerfs they did including the ones on Beta Testing.
1.) Do Living story 3, it unlocks ember bay, bloodstone fen and the new bitterfrost map. Why? Because it gives you access to populated maps, reward tracks for pvp/wvw, great place to get EXP and loot and gives you the new “Currency” that you can use to buy Ascended backpiece, trinkets, rings, amulet that you can select “ANY” stat combo you want.
2.) Do Fractals dailies everyday, the higher tiers gives you a chance for a random ascended gear/weapons and rings and trinkets. Research pages from Daily recommended Fractals can be used to buy Ascended gear of your choice without you crafting them. Fractals is also a good way to get daily gold.
3.) Once you unlocked the new living story maps, do their dailies for EXP. Remember, keep farming Blood Rubies, Petrified wood and Winterberries. Oh and unbound magic.
I just got this 6k almost maxed out Northwest Falcon Tiki Desktop
https://www.falcon-nw.com/
i7 -6950
32mb ram
Samsung SSD 950 512 GB + Samsung SSD 850 2 TB (this one jacked up the price the most)
Nvidia 1080
No Overclock
Average FPS on Ultra Settings in WvW is 90. On zerg vs zerg fights on a T2 Server, drops to around just below 50. No stutter, not slowdowns, character models never gets replaced by those crappy models.
Averages 100+ FPS on BF1 and BF4 with all the explosions and smoke going on. Averages 200+ on Alien Isolation. Average 50+ FPS on Tomb Raider Ultra settings.
Don’t underestimate Storage space. GW2 is the only program I have installed on Drive C and its almost 100gb used already with just system files and such.
Imagine, a new MAP, environments near the spawn is dependent on race, with 5 spawns, any player from any server who joins is automatically placed on a team based on his/her Character’s race. Each has 2 towers/camps near their spawn, and a Stonemist like Castle in the middle to take.
Pretty much open field. Just 1 Keep in the middle, Free for all.
Race that wins the skirmish gets some kind of complimentary buff like (+ 100% exp bonus or magic find) that lasts till another race wins the skirmish.
Do yourself a favor, just do Fractals/PVP/WvW. Raids in this game is just not worth it. Unless your going for the legendary armor, which tells everyone, your nothing but a PVE’er and you needed 9 other ppl to carry you thru “hard” content.
FFXIV has gear inspects and allows dps meters, community there is much better than here. Much, Much better. That also allowed Pugging Raids easier since you don’t have to rely on “Blind Trust”.
A lot of times, someone with all the shinies is actually the lowest dps because either his rotation is wrong or not paying attention. No way you can tell that here in GW2, they always blame the guy with exotics or the new guy.
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Most of the lvl 80 pve’rs are on the 3 new living story maps. They give “currencies” which can be traded for ascended trinkets, rings, backpiece and even aquabreathers.
Not to mention the 3 new living story maps are better designed than the original 4 HOT maps.
Mechanics are posted in gw2 WIKI and in youtube videos, anyone can read those, put on ascended gear and faceroll the raid tiers. You don’t need a carry on any of these. You just need 9 ppl to faceroll them with.
Solo queue PVP vs a premade or Master Tier Fracs or running a Havoc team vs a Full Zerg is more skill based.
Go do Fractals, PVP or WvW instead. Those were GW2’s original endgame and they drop ascended gear. You will find those things more skill based than Raids, PUG friendly, More Entertaining and fun.
Raids is not about skill, its about being “Sociable”. You must be willing to use VOIP, actively talk, be funny and not quiet. It also requires you to use Meta builds esp if you plan on PUGing it. When you finally find a team and beat an entire wing in less than an hour or so in your first try, you would be like “That was it? pfft…”
Only do raids if you really want that Raid Legendary Armor which is used, according to raiders for GW2’s true endgame, for WvW, since you can change stats.
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He’s talking about the mesmers who use Gsword, Mantra, Daze, Full zerker, Air/Force Sigils/Scholar runes and of course, the macro to execute all those moves in 1 push of a button.
Gaming mouse nowadays like Razer lets you make macro’s that they most likely use to execute those commands in 1 second.
This can one shot anyone under 18k hp.
They usually go charge the mantra’s, then find the target, execute, invisi, charge mantras, repeat.
Your only chance on beating this guys is mark them with a target and double team them, Their macro combo can only kill 1 player at a time, then they need to charge the mantra, so if they down you, ur buddy can kill the macro Mesmer or raise you.
Completely forgot about those scroll, guess that could work.
You can still get Map Rewards and Gift of Exploration on your alt, The only thing I’m proposing account bound are the waypoints and the map shrouds. You still have to do Vistas, Hero Points and Hearts on your Alt if you want Map Rewards and Gift of Exploration.
Can we have world exploration progress semi account bound. I mean semi as in like this.
Main Character: 100% map progress.
I make a fresh alt, and instead of remapping everything, My main character’s map exploration progress is carried over with the Exception of Vista’s, Hearts, Place of Power.
This way, I can make an alt and after the initial story mission, I can jump to the new living story maps (as long as I have it unlocked on any other character) and start doing activities there.
It makes no sense that you can make an alt, instantly level him up to 80, dump ascended gear on him that you earned from your main, and you have to re-explore Tyria and do Living World Season 3 missions again (Bloodstone Fen, Ember Bay, The new winter map) just to access all the areas of the game. Not to mention the terrible and annoying 4 HOT maps..
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I’m also hoping for an expansion. Maybe an expansion that will enhance the graphics of the game, new maps that are like the new Living Story maps not like the original HOT maps. New Specializations, and maybe another job or two. New Weapons, Maybe make WvW 4v4 or 5v5 even. Make new great soundtrack and no more of the depressing Desert BL music.
Love how that video shows a DH cheating, like playing an OP build wasn’t enough he had to use macros to use that tonic that fast. I hope Hadi beat him so he can cry on his sleep for losing lol.
Sounds like you all need a rev in your party.
more bag slots, more inventory slots, more shared slots…
30-40 item bags for sale.
I use a power/rev full ascended zerker glint/shiro invocation/devastation/herald build and it works great for tier 3 and below. Unfortunately I think it might be too squishy for tier 4 so I use my full celestial ele for that.
Same, just played unranked, was not able to cap any node, I had to ask someone else to cap it for me.
Comparing Glint/Shiro to Jalis is like Comparing a Ascended armor to a Masterwork Armor. No contest.
You can never go wrong with Elementalist. As for gear, you can never go wrong with equipping ur Ele with Celestial ascended gear.
Whatever you pick, don’t pick Revenant, unless u like nerfs.