Guild Wars 2

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So, what I imagine when I look at this GM trait, is a dev sitting in a room, thinking of how to make a ranger benefit more towards his party, and thinks – “…what if… that one spirit that is worth taking to dungeons… will be able to apply might to the party, therefore granting 33% uptime of 1 might stack…”, and then he actually implements it.

I mean come on, it could’ve reduced the recharge on spirits, it could’ve add an appropriate combo-field to each spirit’s suicide, but no – 1s boons each 3s is the way to go.

WilnerGW.3275:

Do we need to shout to get a simple fix on our kittening pets stats ?

Apparently.

1) Ele
2) Mesmer
3) Warrior
4) Guard
5) Theif
6) Engi
7) Necro
8) Ranger

ANets in-ability to balance the ranger properly whether it be a buff, nerf or bug fix is not just bad anymore…. it’s straight up sad.

There are more bug posts in their sub-forum than any other and has been for months
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger

DaShi.1368:

Rangers should spend less time asking for nerfs for other classes and focus on what their class needs improvement. Antagonizing other players is the main reason rangers aren’t well liked.

Excuse me? Have you been to the ranger forums at all? Half the first page is composed of threads pointing out bugs, suggestions to fix spirits, shouts, traps, increasing offhand range, etc. Suggestions on how to fix pets, or adding new pets. I don’t see ONE single thread about nerfing other classes. Yeah sure there are occasional complaints about about eles/mesmers or whatever, but the VAST majority are suggestions and bug tips.

It’s amazing the way the Abjured Ranger dominated mid halfway through the match!

ANet really needs to nerf healing spring because it totally carried that Ranger. And what about that evade spam and cheap perma quickness? Yeah that’s gotta go to, or else we will see everyone running ranger. Taunt is totally OP as well, it should be fixed. No one could touch that Ranger…

Kagamiku.9731:

Provost.6210:

Aomine.5012:

Provost.6210:

EremiteAngel.9765:

Lets consolidate our thoughts for the next patch.
what are the classes ranking from number 1 (needs the most nerfs) to number 7 (needs the least nerfs)?

1) Mesmers
2) Elementalist
3) Engineers
4) Thieves
5) Warriors
6) Guardians
7) Rangers

You’ve got to be kidding me.

Try this:

1) Mesmers
2) Engineers
3) Necromancers
4) Rangers
5) Thieves
6) Conditions overall
7) Stealth as a mechanic
8) Thieves (I know it’s on here twice, but it’s my list so I’ll say it as many times as I want)
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99999) Elementalists

Are we playing the same game sir?

I ought to ask the same question of you if you think elementalists need to be nerfed.

This always happens when eles start appearing in the meta. We get hit with every possible nerf bat such that people notice when an elementalist actually appears on your team (or you get schooled by one). And, of course, it’s just downhill from there.

“waah waah this ele beat me. He moved around and used his skills, no fair!”

Suck it up.

Ele’s have always been in the meta. They’re the best pve class, one of the best pvp classes, and one of the best wvw zerg/roaming classes. They’re literally the meta of every game mode. That was prepatch, before they received their post-patch buffs. Yeah, they’re even stronger now.

Mesmer and Ele is literally on top top of the list of 90% of the posters here. That ought to say something.

Yeah… Elementalists have it really rough.

Having nearly twice as many skills to use as most other classes.

Being able to heal just by switching attunements and not having to actually touch their healing skill.

Not having to worry about things like skill cooldowns as they can just switch attunements and continue to spam skills while other classes actually have to manage what they use and when.

Having to burden themselves with nearly unlimited boon stacks that they can maintain nearly indefinitely.

Being able to tank damage as a light armor class twice as well (or more) as the two heavy armor classes can.

Always being wanted and viable (sometimes necessary) for dungeons, WvW, and sPvP teams.

I wonder if they actually get upset when they see their utility skills on cooldown and don’t really know how to react since they cannot just change them out and continue to spam more skills as they do their mains?

Yup. No doubt about it. Elementalists have it REALLY rough.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBMhNakRlKW7XxmFqWD0HELXCa/vezcK7kV8lHA-TJBBwAAeCA+3fIypAQcZAA

its a version of a bleedinghearts build.

stacks a lot of bleeds with combi sharpening stone and warhorn 4.
mad king runes give a similair effect when using a elite. you can stack alot of bleeds in seconds. rapid fire also stacks pretty well.
Its really fun because ppl dont expect to die to bleeds on a lb build.

warriorjrd.8695:

Jim Hunter.6821:

warriorjrd.8695:

BUT HOW I GET IN FACE WHEN SHOOT ME WITH PUSH BACK ARROW????

Try this new thing called stability, I know warriors have so little access to it but I’m sure you can figure something out.

BUT THEN HE GO STEALTH FOR 10 SECONDS AND SHOOTS ME WITH 30K RAPID FIRE!!!!

Last night i hit guy for so much Rapood Fyre that his character bypassed downed dying immediately , got deleted, computer exploded, and then his face melted off Raiders of the Lost Ark style.

rapuud fiar too stronk plz nerf…

Every time I see somebody crying about the update for rangers, I am reminded why ANet has added a dodge roll trainer to the game.

Ranger might be “OP” but it’s not because of poor balance. It’s because of poor player skill.

So other classes can have insta gib builds, but Oh my Lawd – Ranger’s can’t have nice things?

S/F Fresh Air Ele’s. Static Discharge Engineers. Power Necros, and more. But no, not rangers.

Watch:

Elementalist have been doing this forever, as well as other “Glassy Built” Classes.

Ele insta gib…examples

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/166103/gw008.jpg

So why can’t Zerker built LB rangers have nice things too?

Can I just take a moment to remind people of something?

The damage rapid fire does has not increased with the patch.

Before the patch, it was actually LESS dodge-able than it is now, with MORE guaranteed damage on the target.

The only different to the weapon now is the time frame in which Rapid Fire deals it’s damage, and it comes down to the point that has been argued up and down these forums now that we can compare the old sustained damage longbow to the new burst longbow; In theory, sustained damage is better because it is harder to mitigate since it is dealt consistently. However, in practice, players have a harder time reacting to burst damage based on skill ceiling/floor, resulting in burst usually having an overall higher effectiveness against players ill-equipped to handle the mechanics of burst damage.

Go up against a good player. Like, an ACTUALLY good player. You will almost never land even a hit of rapid fire, because they know to counter the longbow, they have to dodge the skill and get into melee where dodging “through” a character cancels their cast, and incidentally, the autoattack damage is also at its lowest at close range.

If rapid fire is “still landing one or two hits,” it always did this. In fact, before the patch, you could double dodge and still be hit with ~5 hits of Rapid Fire versus the 2-3 you might land now, and the damage per arrow hasn’t increased.

ANet has stated explicitly, multiple times, that players shouldn’t be able to 100% completely negate the efforts of opposing players, because it’s already enough to be able to render them so ineffective that you should be more than capable of achieving a win against them.

The longbow is EXACTLY where it needs to be at now. If anything is broken after the patch, it’s the will of all of the bad players who can’t seem to figure out that they actually have MORE options to counter longbow users now.

Oh lord, here we go.

Just give it some time. Let the dust settle, let people change their strategies against these builds. People are so used to 99% of longbow rangers being free kills that they’re flustered that they now have to use a few brain cells to kill them.

If you want to run build like this, Power Necro 2-shots you, D/p thief doesn’t give a flying kitten and much more.

Seriously guys, stop posting how LB Ranger does damage when you build for straight no survivability and pop every long cooldown you have for one spike.

15 war pets//////////

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

Well, I appreciate some of you guys listing me!

I know not everybody gets along with Prysin guys, but his game knowledge and skill level is solid. We’re a community on an internet forum, so there is going to be clashes with each other and things we like and don’t like, and not everybody’s way of responding is appealing to every forum user, but that doesn’t mean we should discount any information they provide.

I mean, myself personally, I know I’m not perfect. I just volunteer some of my time to the forums and try to come to a consensus about how we can push the class to the limits of its current playability.

That being said, I’ve always been sort of a PvP “fanboy” so to speak, and there are a few rangers that really pushed the class up to the highest tier of competition and played it at the highest level that I’d like to mention.

Ryan; he’s still around on the forums, he actually posted recently on my “Let’s Talk PvP Meta” thread. Always a strong opinion with good reasoning and a solid PvP player.

Sol; Haven’t seen him in awhile, I think he moved on to a different game or got forum banned or something, but a top PvP guy through and through.

Eurantien; Still semi-active on the forums, still active in game, and as far as I know, has been playing ranger since launch and is one of the few rangers that has played just about every competitive build at a competitive level, and is the only person I know that makes Glass ranger competitive at a top tier level.

Battosai; I hope nobody feels insulted when I say that on top of being one of the best PvP rangers in the game, that this guy was beyond intelligent game knowledge wise. He had/has incredible foresight, and his ideas on how to tweak and run builds were always intricate and custom tailored to make advantages out of mechanics that at times were so subtle I didn’t even know they were things people actively thought about.

None of those descriptions should be indicative to any of the people on that list that they DON’T share any of the listed qualities, because they in fact all do. But I mean, these 4 guys, combined with a few others in game, basically shaped competitive ranger builds into what they are today.

I think that I will abstain from restating names that people have already stated because this thread shouldn’t become a “love fest” ego stroking thread.

Instead, I’m going to refer people to one of the better and more consistent ranger streamers on twitch. He doesn’t only play ranger, but his gameplay is pretty solid, especially compared to how few regular ranger streamers there are, and then the ones that actually are regular and what and how they are actually playing.

twitch.tv/gladomer

In general though, I think that every consistent contributor that is willing to adapt their opinions over time and have constructive conversations should be on a list of people to regard. That is what makes a community a community and not a toxic place, and from what I’ve seen from just glancing through, it may not always seem like it, but the ranger community has some of the most constructive players and contributors, and I think that in itself speaks to where we are now versus some of the darker places we as a community have been in the past.

So keep it up everybody

Why can’t ranger cheese?

Cheese = abuse a certain skill.

Let me illustrate cheese:

Thief – Blind then Steal then Cloak and Dagger then Backstab then Blind … repeat. When in danger cast Shadow Refuge.

Warrior – Charge/Bullrush then 100 Blades then AA. When group of enemies arrive, turn 180 Spin, Charge, Bullrush.

I propose allow Ranger to cheese. I’ll be honest, i’ll will suggest ways to compete not ways to “glow” with aspects.

Lose 50 matches that you’ve led by 100 points.

entropy.9613:

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

“ALL IS VAIN” should be a pvp title.

Seconded.

In order to get it, you must play 100 matches without ever playing a spirit ranger, condition necro or stunlock warrior

“ALL IS VAIN” should be a pvp title. Obtained after enduring 100 match losses that are 4v5 or lost by blowouts.

“No GF” should be an achievement. Obtained after hitting below 69% in the leaderboards.

Next patch,make it happen, thanks!

I love this game but I must confess I really hate mismatched teams. Often, when I didn’t know any better, I would boil down the loss of a game to someone on my team in particular, blaming the entirety of a game’s final outcome on just one person’s inability to play. This I think is stupid to do. A single match has so many variables in it that to tie it down to one player’s performance is silly. Additionally you look like an idiot. I was recently watching OstrichEggs’ stream and I thought it funny that Hiba blamed the loss on him. This sort of thing happens a lot.
Departing from this method of loss examination, I can choose to then blame the other teams players(they are op as kitten), or I can say the lag did it, or I could simply say the loss falls on my own ability. It is usually a combination of these things, but a huge component of the game’s outcome also rests on class role and synergy.

Beyond the occasional 4v5, this seems to be more prevalent and less talked about. It has less to do with class composition i.e. mesmer, mesmer, mesmer(oh kitten time to afk), and more to do with battleground roles, in whatever way someone wants to define that, mobile capping players, high-damage nukers, bunkers, players with large team presence, disablers, etc. A class can be indicative of what that a player brings to the team, so it is not a bad face value assessment. Still, classes can obviously have a combination of these traits, but the problem seems to crop up whenever one team is either missing one of these traits, multiple, or has too much of one.

An example of this last situation:
With maybe a bunker or two on each team it seems fair enough, however, if one team spawns into the game with 4 bunkers and the other is left with only 2 bunkers, the game seems decided before it has even begun. The team with only two can never decap a point. Their two bunkers act as dead weight, taking the necessary players slots for more damage classes.This aggravates quite a bit. Not sure how others feel about this.

I know that this problem doesn’t really exist in team queue and that this branch of pvp is certainly available, but I think that with the addition of a ready check to solo queue there should be some kind of role check too. With all of this in mind, here are my questions:

*Is this a legitimate complaint? (I don’t know maybe I am asking for too much?)

How might you specify what the “required” roles are for a tournament match?

Does this problem lie in the map design? The potential for secondary objectives to sway the tide of a game or even the conquest style itself?*

tldr: Does tournament role need to be considered in setting up a solo queue game?

ItIsFinished.9462:

You know, when they introduce independent Sigil cool downs, and the ability to put two Sigils on 2H weapons, it will introduce a whole new world of build options for us and for other classes.

Basically, all ~on-crit~ sigils will have new life breathed into them, and I predict some combinations will simply be OP. Having a few different builds theorized already, I for one can’t wait.

lol i remember in Beta when Sigil of Fire and Sigil of Air could stack xD, some poor kitten could get hit by a lightning strike and then explode into flames! It was hilarious! Made me like crit builds more…

But yeah, we totally need 2 sigils on 2H weapons, atm they’re kinda at a disadvantage..

I play only my ranger. I enjoy roaming and I’m done grinding. Everyday I log in roam a bit, do some events, do some jumping puzzles and open a few chests here and there. I finish my daily almost always because buy the end of my game session I usually have it at 60-80%. I enjoy playing the game because it relaxes greatly after a long day at work. Other classes just dont click with me in PvE since I’ve played rangers/beastmasters since forever. I don’t see myself doing dungeons or PvP anymore.

Dardamaniac.1295:

Hide in Plain sight triggers everytime is on CD

I think its the continuous stun effect from reading the patch notes…

(couldnt resist :P )