Guild Wars 2

KarlaGrey.5903:

Jestersmiles.4365:

JinDaVikk.7291:

I cant take it any longer. I will be playing teso when it comes out but I give up gw2…

When every single solo q is rank 10’s-20’s even though I am near top of lb…. is just wrong. not to mention the 10+ minute q times.

Idc what “stats” you want to put out but your lying. Pvp population isn’t growing it’s declining quickly. Why? you know why. 0 development.

After 2700 hours in pvp I give up.

GG from
Jindavikk, Elephantitas, Bowser Jr, Yogi Bear, and Thelonious.

Try Tera, it pretty much has the same pvp mechanics as Gw, but it had better modes hence it a hella lot better.

I reckon you’re referring to GW2.
However, Tera is grindy as hell, and the balance in smaller pvp mode (3v3) is said to be horrid + gear-based, while the bigger-scale pvp is a zerg&lag fest.
Your typical mmo with a focus on raids as end content, pretty much.

It is grindy but the GvG is very fun once you get into a guild that does them on a regular bases. That along for me is worth the grind.

I think anet bit of more than they can chew with this game. They should have gone the GW1 and just made it a heavily instance game because this just show they don’t have the resources to maintain a MMO.

I would have gladly taken a heavily instance game with actual content that this sad and depressing “game” we have now.

I hope they hired a lot of people from that Irrational games function or w/e the hell it was, because they clearly need more people.

UnrequitedHope.6172:

AcidicVision.5498:

Im not sure dead means what you all think it means. NC just had quarterly earnings. They legally have to disclose earning and performance reports. Those numbers have to be accounted for and verified. They can’t just pull numbers out of their kittens and blatantly misrepresent the performance of a product to shareholders without serious repercussions.

Across the board GW2 is performing better than projected. In new box sales and gem sales. Player concurrency is up, living story participation is up. Those are facts. If those are facts…then how is it “officially” dead?

If anything, I think more people are getting involved in the living story. Because it got interesting and is more rewarding than grinding glory for skins, which has diminishing returns the more skins you unlock.

Also, wth are you doing solo queue? Everyone is either in hot join or team queue. Team matches rarely take longer than two minutes to pop. I’d think someone with over 2k hours of pvp would know where people are playing.

Seems like more of a case of player “officially” not knowing what he is doing or talking about.

^ This. Pvp population is far from dead and statistics indicate that it’s growing. I’ve noticed more frequent encounters with newer players which can only mean more new blood entering pvp. I’ll tell you what is dying though—the hardcore player base, the veterans. The ones who are left and willing to put up with the current state of pvp are merely sharks in a small pond, hence OP’s frustration.

Links or it never happen. And even if it true, I would love to know where the new people at? I can log in right now and run across all the world and see maybe like one, two people running around. Most people locked up in LA anyaway.

Same goes for PVP, I bet nearly no one there too.

Seriously this game content so non existing it just sad now. Well if what you are saying is true no wonder Anet is just doing the bare minimum, why work on GOOD content if for some baffling reason new people are coming into this game, with bad word of mouth and little to no advertising what so ever.

Now I see the need for monthly subs….CONTENT!!!!

JinDaVikk.7291:

I cant take it any longer. I will be playing teso when it comes out but I give up gw2…

When every single solo q is rank 10’s-20’s even though I am near top of lb…. is just wrong. not to mention the 10+ minute q times.

Idc what “stats” you want to put out but your lying. Pvp population isn’t growing it’s declining quickly. Why? you know why. 0 development.

After 2700 hours in pvp I give up.

GG from
Jindavikk, Elephantitas, Bowser Jr, Yogi Bear, and Thelonious.

Try Tera, it pretty much has the same pvp mechanics as Gw, but it had better modes hence it a hella lot better.

Sucks that the game is in such a crap state but it seems Anet does not give a crap about it anyway and it not getting better anytime soon. Better to leave to a game with a better pvp and content but that not TESO.

TESO combat is borderline brain dead, why pick that?

A real GvG map…nuff said.

it kinda sad that I can’t find any one to do the current LS even though my server is “very high” in population..just saying…

Crise.9401:

Jestersmiles.4365:

I been gone since fractals was introduced, so If I log in now I should see a slew of new areas and stuff to do………….oh wait…. No I wont since all that “chunk of expansion” was temporary.

Not all, the TA dungeon path was permanent, Teq was permanent and right now there are two “chunks” going on, and pretty much everything coming next Tuesday is permanent (or some of old content coming back in as well).

All you really missed was a bunch of festivals and/or recurring content that will be back sometime next year. You might have missed at most a whole hour or two of story stuff that will not be back, note that the two temporary dungeons you missed will be made permanent additions to fractals next week, and most of those two hours outside the soon to be back dungeons weren’t anything truly special (few of the cinematics were pretty cool though).

Right now the only thing that is not truly permanent in fact is the tower in Kessex Hills… we don’t really know when it will be gone or how it will be gone (as it is unlikely that time will simply rewind on that zone). Oh, and then there is WvW season but that is only an achievement list.

Well that good to know, thank you for the info.

jsduke.6537:

Last week? Chunk of expansion.

Next week? Chunk of expansion.

I been gone since fractals was introduced, so If I log in now I should see a slew of new areas and stuff to do………….oh wait…. No I wont since all that “chunk of expansion” was temporary.

I was just checking the forums to see if there any reason to come back. This thread just answered my question.

Guess I hold off my comeback to this game for a while longer, maybe sometime in the future I have a reason to come back.

Just my two cents.

balrog.1307:

So i have been rather skeptical about GW2 at first, mainly because i’m not so much into mmo’s i guess. I tried WoW and it didn’t get to me, i tried SWTOR – and apart from the story missions it was boring as hell, i tried Tera and apart from being pretty it looked like a manequin – fancy clothes on the outside, stale plastic on the inside.

Some time ago, a couple of my friends started playing GW2 and their impressions were something like “omfg this is the best mmo ever made, you have to try it pronto!”. As i said, i was skeptical at first, but as time passed i became more and more interested until finally yesterday i purchased it.

First of all i would like to say that the download speed for the client is just ridiculously low(my ips provides a connection of average 100 – 200 mbit/s), but as i was at work while it downloaded, i guess it’s not a big problem anyway.

And then there was the moment of character creation..and then there were the first quests in the Norn homeland, and then my friends joined and their high levels downscaled so we could play together…public events, inventory & craft system, story, jumping sections, vistas, questing, leveling..sorry, i’m just so overwhelmed by all of this that my overexcited emotions can’t be put on a hold.

The base line – At this moment this game is the best massive multiplayer experience i have ever been part of, and the fact that i’ve just scratched the surface, in my opinion, makes it one of the best gaming experiences i have had this year(which has been rather dissapointing in the case of PC gaming, at least for me).

Thank you Arena.net!Keep up the good work!

Come back after a month or so and you be singing a different tune.

The first few months are always “ZOMG best game ever”…..

Vayne.8563:

Actually Guild Missions are new permanent content. So is the PvP map they added. What you mean is new permanent content that doesn’t interest you, maybe.

I just came off doing three guild missions with my guild. We did the bounty and the trek, but we failed the rush (we were so close).

We had a lot of fun doing it, though. So to say there’s no new permanent content is misleading.

It is content not everyone is taking advantage of.

Lets Be Clear here, Bug fixes and balances changes are in no way content.
4 things have been added that is permanent in terms of content
Fractals
2 Spvp Maps
Southsun Cove (which is debatable currently its actual worth, will see over the next month)
Guild Missions
Out of the whole bunch fractals is easily the biggest and most fleshed out as it provides lots of content to work through. The spvp maps have a fair amount of use also as Spvp is in desperate need of maps. But the rest……eh , Guild missions while fun dont offer nearly the same amount of content compared to Fractals or the Spvp maps.
Im not saying im against the living story, my point really is that the living story to me seems like a waste in that things just never return. Look at the molten weapon testing facility, that was a fun dungeon. Why couldn’t that be built upon and made into a full fledged dungeon rather then be tossed on the way side? I don’t want to see things simply go to waste.

No need for them, go back to WoW.

Rouven.7409:

I personally do not absolutely agree with the dungeon myself. In essence because it breaks the pace. I would have either incooperated all story-dungeons into the personal story or none.

I would ask here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/OPERATION-UNION-Bringing-Players-Together/first

This seems to be everyone problem with it being the ONLY mission to require other people.

If you wanted to bring people together then why not add other personal story mission that needed other people?

Making PS 99% soloable then making the LAST one in need of others out of left field and be surprise people are angry about that, it plain stupid. Of course people going to be mad, Anet just threw one from left field, how stupid is that?

Or you can just do it for Bragging rights. In GW 1 you could redo missions for better times and everyone would be able to see who did it faster and what not. Why not here?

There no subscription , you can come back when the features you want are implemented. Yes you do have a right to be angry , I know how you feel. I came here to GvG, the kitten mode is not even in the game yet but since there no sub I can just stop and come back when it implemented. What I said makes perfect sense.

I take pvp seriously when they introduce GvG, nothing more nothing less. Capture the flag is only fun for a little while.

Again don’t like it you have every right to leave.

You could have saved your self a lot of grief and just showed that from the beginning, and yeah it sucks but putting on countless threads is not going to help makes stuff come faster.

P.S Thiefs are not abusive rendering issue, you makes it sound like they do it on purpose.

again not one is stopping you from leaving even someone in the comment said as much.

Hammerheart.1426:

This thread:

Thieves who don’t want to admit that their favorite profession might be over the top, even in the slightest, because it directly attacks their skill, and somehow might diminish it.

I know it was not OP’s intent to bring about a profession discussion flame war, but when you mention that the most observed profession is Thieves, and people already have a gigantic problem with Thieves, what did you expect?

The truth of the matter is, Thieves are the most observed profession, because they are the easiest to play, and subsequently, the easiest to kill people with.

Dispute it all you want, you might even get some people to agree with you, but deep down, you must understand, that the PvP community thinks that they are over the top.

Best bunker in the game (Ele) crying over thieves, NOW that funny.

Hammerheart.1426:

This thread:

Thieves who don’t want to admit that their favorite profession might be over the top, even in the slightest, because it directly attacks their skill, and somehow might diminish it.

I know it was not OP’s intent to bring about a profession discussion flame war, but when you mention that the most observed profession is Thieves, and people already have a gigantic problem with Thieves, what did you expect?

The truth of the matter is, Thieves are the most observed profession, because they are the easiest to play, and subsequently, the easiest to kill people with.

Dispute it all you want, you might even get some people to agree with you, but deep down, you must understand, that the PvP community thinks that they are over the top.

Please a Mesmer can kill some one way more easier and better than a theif. Seriously Thieves only have one viable build , I don’t see anyone crying about that?

Most of the other builds where either nerfed or never where good to begin with.

Again Look at dota 2, it rare that it balances around pugs because there no point people are just going to cry about something they don’t understand and choose not to learn a way to counter it.

Again if GW2 wants to be taken seriously , they won’t take all these QQ threads to heart ,plain and simple.

More of the same doom and gloom from everyone and yet you people still here, got to love it.

Don’t like the game no one is stopping you from leaving, but please stop with all the doom and gloom stuff jesus.

Omnio.3652:

Clones are annoying, but if you have damage you kill clone in one or two shots, I always try to find the one who runs around – mesmer. Also buffs and stuff like that helps, for example if he has glory boost, clones are not getting it.

I played mesmer but now I have engineer. As some said, Thief and Mesmer can go full dps unlike others in sPvP. I went with my engineer full dps with gadgets. Thiefs cant almost touch me, unless I dont notice or they are really good – knockback is my friend. And mesmer, if I see him, he goes down fast.

I think there is the same problem for some as was for me in one moba (dota like) game. I thought many characters are overpowered, they were, some more some less, but in random play with random people you are going to see it most. While e-sport players who train pvp a lot had usualy no problem and can adapt etc. Thief is cool with glass cannon build but imagine that same build in tPvP, one stun, focus, thief down. Same with mesmer. Unless he’d take 2 stun breakers.

But yes, I got your point. I think mesmer is incredible in survability. As full dps I used to take mirror images I think it is, two clones and stun breaker and teleport – stun breaker too. Third skill was optional. So with greatsword (pushback), sword + pistol (daze, imobilize, cripple and invulnerability while 2nd spell on sword) it was pretty cool. I could just catch someone in the middle of his “friends” and I had almost no problems killing him. My other build was conditions / tanky – staff, scepter + torch. It has 3 invis (if you take decoy and mass invis), also mirror images for clones. That build was even crazier, 3 times invis does a lot, clones make your enemy go crazy while they kill all of em and still they dont see you (because that invis), distorion thx to clones which I could make without any problem – staff and scepter = 2 clones, mirror images = 2 clones, decoy = 1. Also stacking confusion on my enemy was easy.

Both these builds seems strong. But still, first build dies fast, second kills slow.

P.S. On my engi I don’t have so much trouble with mesmer, probably also because I played him, but I hate necros as hell, condition spread as … and they just don’t die at all. Warriors the same. Seems to me all classes are a bit OP so you really need to learn how to dodge and use your skills properly. Its like Street Fighter kinda, you need to be fast and precise, but you are fighting in 3D enviroment.

Necro’s are easy, just don’t blow your combo/burst right away, they are just going negate it with F4 ( I am bad with names deal with it :P). Warriors are almost always 100b wars, snare, kite, laughing all the way.

Mesmers , Sometimes I just rather leave them be, to much of a hassle, especially if you don’t have blind.

Yeah Mesmers….really annoying.

Hate mesmer so much, I rather fight 10 BS thiefs than one mesmer, most annoying class in the game by far.

Best advice I can give you is blind them , that would slow down their clone spamming.

Seras.5702:

Is the Avatar of Melandru useful at all in a support build? Or do the tomes outshine it?

I love Avatar of Melandru for support, it What I run. CC,Condition Removal, AOE Heal, yeah it great for support.

The game is balanced around team play not 1v1 or 1v2, good teams know how to stop some one from getting rez. The thing needs tweaking not getting rid off. DS is not going anywhere , can we stop with these threads please?

Balancing around hotjoin will be a bad choice plain and simple. The thief/rogue class being the most popular is really nothing new. It by far the most liked/played archetype in every mmo, this just back that up even more.

Why is GvG being ignored? Seriously it was the main draw of Gw1, not this stupid conquest kitten. My guild is basically a ghost town , if there not something on GvG , not even a mention just going to move some where else as well.

Thanks for asking about GvG, for a second thought no one was going to ask about it, oh wait….

Why use LoL as an example ? Dota 2 is ten times more a better Esport equip game than LoL.

No GvG questions?

Got to love Goon, bunch of kittens, one guardian could not take care of two thiefs so he TP’s to come back with his friend. LOLOLOL

Here what I am running right now. It works really good if I get someone with my setup, they usually drop quick but I am having a hard time keeping any one stunned long enough since the patch. Did pistol whip get nerfed again?

Anywho any suggestion on my current build?

phooka.4295:

Osprey.6587:

Secondly, he says it will be available through other means but doesn’t say when.

If I may wager a guess, it’ll be available through other means such as karma or gold (crafted in TP) when the next tier is unveiled. As we know from other games, it’s important for gear treadmill games to make the currently second best gear easy to obtain while requiring dungeon runs / raids for currently best gear.

But they said they where not going to do that. So what we can’t take them for there word now?

And for what for the raiders to come back do everything in one week and leave again?

ya awesome.

They caved in to the all the Q_Q from raiders , who had no business being here in the first place. The game WAS supposed to be about not grinding for gear.

W/e Anet can take their ascended gear and stick up their kitten, where the kitten don’t shine.

Warrior, Anet love child since Gw1…nothing new.

What with all the love for War from anet? MY god I am pretty sure they are other profession other than War in the game. Its GW 1 all over again.

Expect the shortbow only useful attack skill to be useless and good bye BS thiefs. Plus some other stuff to make the class kitten tier.

QQers: 1 Logic: 0

working as intended.

Dee Jay.2460:

I just came back from another 1 hour Siege that just kept going and going because neither side was able to significantly weaken the other side.

Rezzing mechanics just make Sieges so entirely pointless it’s mind-boggling. People die constantly but they never stay dead. They are constantly being rezzed by their mates and stuff just goes on and on an on.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother trying to kill people in the first place. For Badges I guess…because it certainly doesn’t make any difference for the outcome of a Siege.

ANet, you must seriously review the resurrection mechanics for WvW. They make the game so incredibly pointless.

Working as intended.

mjharrison.3209:

I for one will never touch GW1 sPVP or tPVP for as long as Downed State is as big a factor as it is. It’s not fun to play, not good to watch, takes focus away from the core combat, rewards numbers over skill, is unbalanced and rife with exploits/bugs.

It’s a failed experiment, and the longer Anet clings to it, the worse the prospects for GW2 as a serious PVP game look.

While PVE and sPVP have been thoroughly disappointing, WVW is very good and will probably keep me playing for a while (until Darkfall 2 comes out?).

show how much you know about the game then , most people just waypoint in Spvp, there goes that theory.

The only thing the down state needs is rework on some classes skills which are completely garbage compare to others (Engi for example) other than that everything is fine.

Stop crying over spilled milk, good players adjust , bad ones cry in forums.

SoulstitchMMO.1396:

Laska.3865:

I think the ability to rez is fine. Especially given this is WvW, rather than PvP. It balances against the temptation to have more waypoints and is a better mechanic.

Also,Think about it. If you want WvW to die out quickly just make it less “forgiving” and more punishing. Remove rez and make players have to run across the map. It might feel good to “punish” those players who are not as good as you are, but you need those “casual” and “not as skilled” players. Otherwise forget about any attention to battlegrounds in future releases.

It is the very “casual friendly” nature that is killing WvW. Pvp is not casual friendly. No matter how much the developers attempt to dress it up. It’s not. It never will be. Some players can only fight against scripted encounters and this is why pve exists.

There is nothing casual about WvW other than, anyone can join it. The repair costs are not casual. The siege costs are not casual. The gear you get from it is not casual. The upgrade costs, not casual.

WvW IS casual PvP , if you want hardcore pvp you are in the wrong place. In spvp people almost always just go back to the waypoint.

Everything is fine as it is.

Chalky.8540:

Jestersmiles.4365:

Rhyis.7058:

I’m telling a poster to give up this masquerade that Mag is some big night capping server. His last 3 posts have been the same.

I want EB to fight harder.

You can tell yourself w/e you want, the only reason you win is because of nightcapping+more bodies.

mental gymnastics FTW.

On day one you had more than enough players to kick our kitten and it was a great fight. Where are they now?

It’s hardly our fault your side has decided to stop turning up, is it? We were losing by 20k points, we came out in force and fought for our honour. Where was your response when we went 20k ahead of you in the middle of US day time on a weekend? Why didn’t you claw back your lead with the massive organised offensive you showed on day one??

Being outnumbered has nothing to do with it. You’re only outnumbered because half your guilds are only interested in playing if they’re already winning. Fix that and you’ll have plenty of numbers to take us on.

Come give us a challenge, it’s more fun for everyone that way.

Props to all the EBayers who’re putting up a good fight rather than making up excuses. We’ve seen some absolutely fantastic tactics from you guys, from dedicated thief teams taking out heavily escorted yaks to back door mesmer portals while we’re all focussed on a different wall being down. I hope you fix your morale problems because there’s some serious talent on this server.

shunobee.6907:

Sheesh, you guys really hate each other. I feel like I’m intruding on a nasty domestic argument or something.

Poor ET I’ve never wanted an opponent to capture keeps more in my life. Hang on in there!

Oh please don’t give me that “Come give us a challenge” crap. Face it WvW is broken, want me to prove it?

Pretty sure this was a THREE way thing, where is red?

WvW= broken.

Wiser with Age.3714:

On a note of interest, I was surprised to find out that your Pistol Whip damage output is completely based on your Sword damage rating and not your Pistol grade. I noticed that when my Thief hit 80th and starting to upgrade to Exotic weapons one piece at a time. From the Pistol Whip animation, you’d think that your Pistol was somehow involved in your dps output.

Thank you for that info.

Oceanic guilds FTW. Back to spvp.

Oh man again thank you for all the responses, really looking forward to playing my s/p combo now. Keep them coming.

Decided to level one of my alts since I am pretty much done with Main (Guardian). So I decided to go with a thief since it the complete opposite of a guardian and as far weapon combo well as the title suggest I like Sword/pistol the most, and was wondering what are the best utility skills and traits that complement the combo.

Thank you in advance for the suggestions.

Having Oceanics guilds must be fun for Maguma. The only way they could ever win.

Notus.5769:

Heck why start with backstab. All you have to do is be in range to do this:
http://i.imgur.com/O3e05.jpg

I have a fully geared 80 thief also. It’s a joke.
I went full condition spec p/d with him just to get away from doing this nonsense to other players.

“But you’re a glass cannon you’re supposed to die in .5 seconds!”
Who else can do this? All this fellow had to do was have me targeted and hit two buttons. That’s it.
The rest is instant.

How many other glass cannon classes run around right now? Very few. And they will not until they know they can actually play in WvW and not be instantly killed by one of the 100 thieves on the map at any given time doing this.

Again crying about WvW argument invalid. Go do that in paid tpvp then come to me about any class being op.

DesertRose.2031:

Jestersmiles.4365:

So Anet wants Guild Wars’s 2 spvp to be taken seriously yet they are going to start balancing the game around WvW? Where there buff, bunch of Aoe flying around and not to mention where armor really counts?

Why do you think 14-16k damage in less than a second against a medium armored target with next to no visual tell is balanced in sPvP but not in W3?

I rarely see BS thief’s in tPvP and I am pretty sure BS got nerfed already so I doubt the damage in pugs it even that high anymore.

Seriously what do you people want thief’s to do? People cried about Assassins in GW1 who had no stealth, and yet people cried about it.

Seriously nothing but cry babies.

So Anet wants Guild Wars’s 2 spvp to be taken seriously yet they are going to start balancing the game around WvW? Where there buff, bunch of Aoe flying around and not to mention where armor really counts?

Yeah that makes a senses. Seriously the from one Guardian to an other the OP just bad really bad, all I have to is take out my hammer to take care of the noob BS thief running around in WvW.

If Anet wants spvp to go any where they should stop balancing around WvW then.

W/e happen to playing fun events like snowball fighting or wack a worm to get the cool stuff?, now it only through the cash shop? pfft w/e going back to farming cursed shore for my lvl 80 this event sucks.

P.S only got one key that I got from my alt, since only god knows when was the last time my lvl 80 even gotten one, and refuse to use it for some crappy skin with some crappy drop rate.