Guild Wars 2

I have incinerator on my main hand and quip on my off. You get the auro but not the footprints as the main hand legendary overwrites it.

As a roamer S/D can be better than D/P but Shortbow can counter the S/D.

I do not use S/D as I can easily counter that with my SB. D/P is a better overall weapon imho.

Also, thieves in WvW hit much more harder than SPvP. Not to mention that SPvP is a more controlled environment that WvW and restricts a lot of builds a thief could play around with.

In WvW, you can experiment with a lot of build types that could be good in roaming, group and zerg fights.

Roles and tasks are totally different aswell. SPvP requires people to capture points but in WvW, roles are more diverse with havoc squads and scouts being also important as to capturing keeps and towers.

Thats the main reason why I prefer WvW than SPvP, its more diverse and does not get as repetitive as much compared with SPvP.

The best food for the zerg is karma :P

I always counter S/D thieves with their one weakness, shortbows. S/D will try to do their fancy moves and get close to you to immobilize you. SB #3 will help you get more distance away from them.

Also I am mainly a D/P thief but a tank/burst hybrid. I will usually milk a s/d thief with my s/b and force them to switch weapon sets. When they do, and by now they should have taken a few hits from the sb spamming, I switch to my d/p and burst them down.

This usually forces them to be more in the defensive and you just have to make sure that you keep an internal clock in your mind that they will eventually switch back. If their hp is more than half, I usually switch back to my sb and rinse and repeat the same tactic.

The goal is to make your opponent not use their main weapons and get them uncomfortable in fighting you. Also shadow step utility is your friend in this kinds of fights.

The Decision by Rethesis coming soon.

We are taking our talents to ……. :P

Mesmer for me is 50-50. If the mesmer is good then I have no room for mistake and time my attacks correctly.

Eles are also a pain specially the bunker as they have the mobility and survivability to run away to cover.

I want a trap that removes all your siege equipment in your inventory permanently!!!

Theres a thing called kiting and not being glass canon. Just a word of advise. Guardians have mediocre range weapon sets that you can kite them without having to fear the range attack.

Be smart on when to burst them down and as a thief, you should not have problems with them. The outcome should mostly be either you kill the guardian or you can’t kill each other.

And also, we have an invisibility stomp and maybe try using a pistol, the aoe blind stomp is pretty good aswell.

Hills with arrow carts in the lords room is as defensive as it will ever get. Loot bags all over!!

If you are looking to learn a thief in WvW, I would suggest roaming solo.

You will encounter a lot of stragglers along the way and initiate a fight with them. On such encounters you would learn the ins and outs of the class and the do whats and nots against different classes.

Also, it will help you in your map awareness as you will always have to try and avoid big zergs or trying to pick off the tail of it.

Adaneshade.2409:

Joshiasi.2840:

But, but I spam HS to cover more ground when I do not have enough ini to use SB or trying to run away when my switch option is in CD.

Do you spam it on a target who is at full health while they laugh in your face at your pitiful damage?

Well, only time I use it on a full health player is to combo it with mug.

But, but I spam HS to cover more ground when I do not have enough ini to use SB or trying to run away when my switch option is in CD.

WatchTheShow.7203:

BadHabitZz.1856:

Budg.3064:

What’s the point of the stealth nerf if taking damage doesn’t de-cloak you? This is the only online game I’ve played with a stealth mechanic where people can take hits and still be invisible.

Name one game where stealth targets gets revealed when they take damage? Just from top of my head Dota/Dota 2 – works like GW2, Planetside 2 – works like GW2, Mass Effect – works like GW2, seriously i cant think of one game where invisible targets gets revealed after taking damage. The way how is it in GW2 is pretty standart mechanic imo…

Aion. Stealthed targets are revealed once they’re hit.

Assassin stealth in Aion lasts a lot longer than in GW2 though.

Adaneshade.2409:

Joshiasi.2840:

Never really had problems facing a S/D thieves. My first reaction is to always use black powder and just react to their move. I let them initiate the first move since I feel comfortable inside my black powder.

I run D/P and SB and roam solo or in 2s and 3s as a scout. I guess my approach to every fight is to not burst them right away and just surprise them with the burst mid fight.

If they are smart enough, a sword thief would realize their attack range allows them to stand outside your field and pummel you while you stand in it without getting blinded.

Even if they do stand far HS will land me closer to them and grant me stealth and a chance at a BS then reapply blinding powder again. Even the #3 skill works if you don’t have the initiative to work with.

Never really had problems facing a S/D thieves. My first reaction is to always use black powder and just react to their move. I let them initiate the first move since I feel comfortable inside my black powder.

I run D/P and SB and roam solo or in 2s and 3s as a scout. I guess my approach to every fight is to not burst them right away and just surprise them with the burst mid fight.

Love my thief!!!

Rayya.2591:

i saw yesterday an D/P thief vs GS warrior
And the skills that aren’t countered by blind , destroy the P/D thief ( chain skils or aoe’s )
The thief got hit hard by volley and Whirlwind.

Thief should have switched to SB as its no fun to go against a GS warrior face on. Thieves Guild helps too.

Sifu.6527:

Joshiasi.2840:

I play D/P and what I do against other thieves are situational.

The first test is what they react to my BP+HS stealth. If they stealth, I make sure to counter that with a stealth utility. If they do not show up first means they used another stealth so I just do another BP+HS combo. If they still don’t show up, I use another stealth utility. At this time they ran out of stealth skill so I cast my basilisk venom, then target the thief, HS+mug then backstab + HS again. Should have a downed thief after.

Never really faced another thief that didn’t react to my BP+HS other than to stealth away. If they pretty much saved up their stealth and waited. Mug + BS should be enough to put them in the defensive.

Maybe this will help in understanding the build.

Against other classes, I switch to Thieves Guild and against Guardians, Rangers, Warriors and Engineers, they are very helpful especially when their HP is close to 50% left.

Also, I play D/P with a 10 / 30 / 30 / 0 / 0 build and have like 15k HP, 2.5k armor, 88% crit damage, 44% crit, 3.1k attack. Pretty much a tanky with burst build.

I don’t have a problem killing d/p 10/30/30/0/0 build. The 0/10/30/30 are harder…

P.S. 15K HP and 2.5K armor is not “tanky”

For a thief thats tanky. That 15k HP and 2.5k armor saved me a lot from dps backstab thieves.

Never had problems killing other thieves aswell. Only class that gave me serious run for my money are d/d bunker eles and mesmers. Eles its pretty much stalemate since we could not kill each other while mesmers got plenty of tricks up their sleeves.

I play D/P and what I do against other thieves are situational.

The first test is what they react to my BP+HS stealth. If they stealth, I make sure to counter that with a stealth utility. If they do not show up first means they used another stealth so I just do another BP+HS combo. If they still don’t show up, I use another stealth utility. At this time they ran out of stealth skill so I cast my basilisk venom, then target the thief, HS+mug then backstab + HS again. Should have a downed thief after.

Never really faced another thief that didn’t react to my BP+HS other than to stealth away. If they pretty much saved up their stealth and waited. Mug + BS should be enough to put them in the defensive.

Maybe this will help in understanding the build.

Against other classes, I switch to Thieves Guild and against Guardians, Rangers, Warriors and Engineers, they are very helpful especially when their HP is close to 50% left.

Also, I play D/P with a 10 / 30 / 30 / 0 / 0 build and have like 15k HP, 2.5k armor, 88% crit damage, 44% crit, 3.1k attack. Pretty much a tanky with burst build.

xiv.7136:

Joshiasi.2840:

xiv.7136:

Joshiasi.2840:

I would trade all my stealth utility for 1 perma stealth until you attack like in other MMOs!! I could finally have a reason to use other utility skills other than the usual blinding powder and refuge!!

Surely not.

I play a thief, and giving up all our current stealth tools for 1 perma stealth with a long cooldown would be a huge nerf.

Stealth needs a nerf but not that big a nerf.

Well if the cd will be long like 2-3 mins then its a no go. 1 min cd max is fine as you can walk around wvwvw or pve with ease since you can never be detected and just attack whoever you choose without fear of going out of stealth in a matter of seconds.

I think having a perma stealth skill will be more OP than the current stealth system that we have since hiding inside enemy keeps will be much easier and just following enemy zergs to scout their movements along side them without them realizing you are there will have huge implications in wvwvw. And who would not want just going into maps to complete their world completions perma stealthed without having to deal with aggros! :P

You won’t be able to restealth, at all, for 1 entire minute, after engaging.

Do you play a thief? That would invalidate an entire trait line, and mess with several others.

I think stealth needs to be nerfed, but not that hard.

Just like many MMOs out there. So you have to be smart when to engage. I mean you can be invisible while the skill cd is running and engage when the cd is up so you can hit then re-use the stealth skill to run away. The 1 min I mentioned in my comment is the CD and in no way I mention not being able to restealth in 1 min after engaging.

I do play a thief FYI. I run a 10/30/30/0/0 d/p + sb build that relies on mobility.

xiv.7136:

Joshiasi.2840:

I would trade all my stealth utility for 1 perma stealth until you attack like in other MMOs!! I could finally have a reason to use other utility skills other than the usual blinding powder and refuge!!

Surely not.

I play a thief, and giving up all our current stealth tools for 1 perma stealth with a long cooldown would be a huge nerf.

Stealth needs a nerf but not that big a nerf.

Well if the cd will be long like 2-3 mins then its a no go. 1 min cd max is fine as you can walk around wvwvw or pve with ease since you can never be detected and just attack whoever you choose without fear of going out of stealth in a matter of seconds.

I think having a perma stealth skill will be more OP than the current stealth system that we have since hiding inside enemy keeps will be much easier and just following enemy zergs to scout their movements along side them without them realizing you are there will have huge implications in wvwvw. And who would not want just going into maps to complete their world completions perma stealthed without having to deal with aggros! :P

The only instance that I have a guildmate asked to change names is that if people reported the name being offensive. I wonder if someone tested having a regular name ask a few of his / her guildmates to report his name being offensive and if Anet would make the player change names.

I would trade all my stealth utility for 1 perma stealth until you attack like in other MMOs!! I could finally have a reason to use other utility skills other than the usual blinding powder and refuge!!

There are also other ways of obtaining ascended accessories. You can also attain them by doing guild missions and just save up the currency to buy them.

Its not like people are just forced to do dailies to attain the new ascended gear.

I think that what Anet was trying to implement is for the casuals who can’t play longer hours as semi to hardcore players do to be able to catch up in terms of gearing progression.

It does add up to many people but for others who can only log in like 1-2 hours a day or less, its a pace that they can keep up with other fellow gamers.

Doing dailies takes about 30-40 mins for me to get the laurels. So idk if 30-40 mins is too much a grind for people.

Maybe people want to get their bis on the very first day it gets released? Then people will start complaining about nothing to do and get after that.

Sericenthe.5310:

It’s too bad the game had to turn into Grind Wars 2. Guild Wars 2 had promise.

Grind Wars 2?? LOL doing dailies to get the bis gear is a grind? I came from AION online and if you want to talk about grinding for gear in this game then idk which MMO will suit you. It took me 6 months of grinding 4-5 hours a day to get the bis armor set in AION and another 4 months in getting the bis accessories prior to the expansion. I was not able to do the weapons since getting enough points to attain the best gear was a kind of a problem having to be the underpopulated faction.

I moved from that game to here since I have RL priorities to attend to.

This game is very casual to other MMOs thats out there.

Getting the mats is the easy part.
Getting the precursor is the problem.

So far I need the precursor to even start on trying to do my pony bow!

Why not have a balanced build. I run using Power/Vitality/Toughness on my armor and Power/Precision/Crit Damage for my jewelries.

Its not high burst but good enough to make your opponent be defensive.

Overall with food, runes and weapon sets, I run with 16k HP, 2.5k Armor, 3.2k Attack, 44% Crit and 88% Crit Damage or pretty close to these numbers as I am at work and can’t provide you with the exact stats.

Gave TC BL a break and was roaming Kaineng BL for the past 5 hours.

Trolling thief roaming for some fun!!

Jayne.9251:

Joshiasi.2840:

This is the most fun I have had in WvWvW. TC and BG have been one of the best servers we have come against and very nice to.

Hope to see more of you guys in TC BL. If you see a roaming thief with an incinerator and t3 cultural armor mix with cof, it will most likely be me. Love tapping those yaks too!!

lol I think you were the one who smooshed me this morning before I even had a chance to drink my first cup of coffee … my poor dolyak

Have not been on for the last 11 hours though so maybe it was not me? :P

This is the most fun I have had in WvWvW. TC and BG have been one of the best servers we have come against and very nice to.

Hope to see more of you guys in TC BL. If you see a roaming thief with an incinerator and t3 cultural armor mix with cof, it will most likely be me. Love tapping those yaks too!!

Rhyis.7058:

Wintuo.1356:

Not even gonna go there lol, as I’ve said before, mags pure core is NA, the odds of our NA “crushing” your core is unlikely.

Why? Other servers can do it. Step your game up.

Because we are a bunch of scrubs. I wonder how others feel like getting beat by a scrub. Maybe I will taunt whoever I kill in WvW to let them know a scrub like me can beat a pro pvp player. Seems like DB and Mags are all pro.

I guess the other servers pro pvpers should just sleep during the day and just wvw at night or they fear the night crew??

Seems like some NA people just like to talk trash and dont back them up.

I been on Kaineng BL and saw a lot of scrub wvws on all servers. Just seem they want to highlight one servers bads.

Something like the “fade to black option” in CS?

Yeah I like the idea so all my level 1 toons are commanders from the start :P

Serum.4067:

Anet needs to implement some sort of queue restriction based off of map population. Nightcapping is getting out of control across all matchups. Whoever nightcaps, wins. We shouldn’t be hindered a victory because we can’t play video games at 4am.

Well technically we also nightcap its just that there are more nightcappers during our time.

Well my gripe is generally the scoring system in WvWvW.

I had an idea in which every server starts with X amount of points (eg. 100). For everytime a server successfully gains a keep they get let say 5 pts and the defending server loses 5 pts and vice versa. Maybe like (Stone Mist 10 pts, Keeps 7 pts, Forts 5 pts, Supply Camp 3 pts)

Then the team with the most points at the end of the week gets the victory. I guess it somehows solve the whole “night capping” issue as when the day comes, servers can log back in and retake what they totally lost and still be striking distance from another server. It may also help keeping the competition good as no lead is safe.

Aliases.8354:

Joshiasi.2840:

Ethersin.3270:

Aliases.8354:

@Ethersin.3270

Taking resources from a keep that isn’t upgraded at all, while trying to reinforce the door and the walls, while we are being attacked, sitting in the keep with all of your golems as I took a screenshot and showed. Refusing to get out and repel the invaders so we don’t lose the keep yet again, you and your guild sat inside your golems refusing to get out, or help anyone else. Plus I like how in your video you cut out the part where you lost the orb in the water. Also the part where you kept typing in caps “LET ME GET THE ORB I MUST GET THE ORB!” I guess it was in some way for you to make your guild look better and your person kitten grow larger. God knows no one wanted to actually run the orb themselves and risk pissing off you, seeing as you kept screaming about how you must get the orb. The funny thing was, you could easily of helped us repel the invaders, and even go to the blue lake supply camp and grab supplies there to build your golems. Not take them from the keep and kitten our upgrading progression.

As for who I am, I am Aliases.8354 figured you would of read that when you @ and quoted me in previous posts.

Ok, so your just a random pug who is blind to results, as for me wanting the orb, too many times have people replaced the orb on the alter instead of bringing it to the right keep. Just stop and ask yourself what YOU are doing for the server, instead of being on the forums constantly flaming and pointing out things, go out there and make a difference.

Well I see that he is from the [GoF] guild. From the screenshot he took, he had a guildy beside him. FYI.

Edit:

He just made some changes to his screenshot to take out his guildmate’s name. But definately from [GoF]. No point in editing the screenshot as its already been there for a while.

Oh no you busted me, except I WAS in GoF at the time the picture was taken, I am no longer a part of GoF, so instead of dragging their name down, I just blacked out the names since this isn’t about what “Guild” i represented at the time, this is a discussion between how I feel about your golem fail army, and how you feel. There should be no need to drag in ex guilds.

I was not in that Golem Army as you see my that my name is Gao and while they were building the army the rest of the guild was in different parts of the map helping out with other objectives.

Sorry to bring the guild you were in but I don’t really care about what you feel. I just do what I like and PvP. So all this elitist talking ain’t going to affect me at all. Seems like a bunch of those transferred recently anyway.

Ethersin.3270:

Aliases.8354:

@Ethersin.3270

Taking resources from a keep that isn’t upgraded at all, while trying to reinforce the door and the walls, while we are being attacked, sitting in the keep with all of your golems as I took a screenshot and showed. Refusing to get out and repel the invaders so we don’t lose the keep yet again, you and your guild sat inside your golems refusing to get out, or help anyone else. Plus I like how in your video you cut out the part where you lost the orb in the water. Also the part where you kept typing in caps “LET ME GET THE ORB I MUST GET THE ORB!” I guess it was in some way for you to make your guild look better and your person kitten grow larger. God knows no one wanted to actually run the orb themselves and risk pissing off you, seeing as you kept screaming about how you must get the orb. The funny thing was, you could easily of helped us repel the invaders, and even go to the blue lake supply camp and grab supplies there to build your golems. Not take them from the keep and kitten our upgrading progression.

As for who I am, I am Aliases.8354 figured you would of read that when you @ and quoted me in previous posts.

Ok, so your just a random pug who is blind to results, as for me wanting the orb, too many times have people replaced the orb on the alter instead of bringing it to the right keep. Just stop and ask yourself what YOU are doing for the server, instead of being on the forums constantly flaming and pointing out things, go out there and make a difference.

Well I see that he is from the [GoF] guild. From the screenshot he took, he had a guildy beside him. FYI.

Edit:

He just made some changes to his screenshot to take out his guildmate’s name. But definately from [GoF]. No point in editing the screenshot as its already been there for a while.

Well seems like we have an idea where most bots will be doing their farming :P

Supersun.4603:

ThyOwnage.5736:

Quite frankly I don’t plan on loosing this match up.

We noticed that when your server sent 10 golems at us during the first couple hours of the match.

You guys must have burned like 50 gold in golems alone in just the first few hours of the match :/

Not really… we had a week of doing dailies from all our main characters + alts from all my guildies since we had like the whole matchup dominated so we stocked up for this match with no gold spent on siege weapons from my guild

The only time I actually participated on this matchup was on the first night of it. After seeing how we can dominate, I just started in doing my map completion. The WvWvW queues in all maps were pretty much people trying to do the map completion and jump puzzles. Next week will be back to normal ones we are matched up with the higher tiers as PvE people will start to go back to PvE. I guess its just time to stack up on siege items for next week’s matchup.

Got 1 week to do that jump puzzles so hopefully all the PvP guilds will take this opportunity to stock up on siege items.

Adaneshade.2409:

Truth be told, it does VERY LITTLE damage on it’s own…most of the damage is done by reflecting projectiles (which go in a straight line and hit the first target they come to [possibly someone other than the shooter]) stop shooting at them and you’ll see how laughable it really is

Depends on how little your little is. I usually deal about 3k on crits and it crits alot. If you use that in the heat of the battle where HPs are either half of close to death, it makes a difference. Its just a matter on when you pull dagger storm.

Well I nice trick I do when using dagger storm is to always combine it with Shadowstep. I port in the middle of the zerg, dagger storm in while monitoring my HP pool. When my HP pool is like 1/4, I port back to my orginal location to cast a heal. Rarely die to that trick unless I accidentally shadowstepped into a warrior and die with their 3 hit combo LOL.

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

lol he was shooting arrows from below the lord and when that wasn’t working he ran out and pulled the lord to the bottom wall where he entered, and the lord stood there for 10 minutes while he tryed that way. We did manage to get his name.# and make an in-game report. I was only able to watch him running back in with the lord on his tail, others managed to click on him to right click report and get his name. His guild tag was something like “Tethis” or “Thetis”.

Well our guild tag is [RE] so thats not us if you say that is the guild tag. It could also mean that when you report a player his ID will show up and maybe you are mistaken the player ID from the guild tag.

fireurza.6849:

he was trapped in the wall probably not glitching. and your post may not have been accusing him of exploiting but your screenshots do. sometimes when a huge group takes a tower some people fall through the floor in the transition. he may have just been waiting around from then

Or if the wall falls down and people were in the process of entering when the defending team fixes the wall you get stuck in it.

Happened to a few of my guildmates when we were sieging in WvWvW last night.

The sudden surge of participating players in Rall did affect the outcome of this match-up. But also the decline in participation of DH players sealed the fate of this week’s match. Not only that, our server had guilds transfer and from a full server, we just get a high population status.

Almost the entire night yesterday (prime time NA) we had the outmanned buff. So server transfers are also killing whats killing WvWvW for us.

@Leiloni try that back when Zikel was so unbalanced. Was there for about 8 months before the move to now Tiamat but the ratio at peak hours in sieges were like 10:1. They take their 2 Ingg forts in 10-15 minutes then attack our side and take 1 of the forts. After that its a race on whether we can capture the 1 fort that we are attacking before they come in and wipe us and steal that fort aswell.