Want to thank [NR] and [HoB] for 2 awesome GvG’s both where very close and enjoyed every fight, most intense fights we had till now! Hoping for some more awesome fights! This week is turning out to be one of the best weeks we had (atleast for me). Keep it up everyone!
What a GvG with Punk tonight, on a KNIFE EDGE every round! you guys are top quality!
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Hats off to PUNK last night having some good fights with HoB whilst being slightly outnumbered. Proper WvW guild, looking for fights running alone definitely a feather in the cap of FSP.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Just to come in with something unrelated to numbers blobbing etc. this is a request because frankly I hate siege in this game its dull! This applys to all servers including AG.
Can we get more open field fighting :-)
less arrow carts and canons more man vs man fighting. I get about 3 hours to wvw and I don’t want to spend it trying to anti siege your siege and then your anti siege with my anti anti siege. sitting on trebs and carts is rubbish lets have a proper fight! If you have a group on your door jump out and clear them don’t build 5 superior arrow carts.
I could pretty much say the same about ZvZ as it’s my opinion and what I like to do in WvW.
I’m not one that like to roll in big groups around. Even 10ish starts to be a big for me, heh. And I do like siege wars. Doing counter siege and trying to manage supplies on assault / defense is thrilling game of strategy for me. When building defenses for a keep you have to consider so many different ways to storm the keep and still try to maintain supply on the map and keeps that it’s crazy sometimes when theres full scale assault on.
I’m not gonna say ZvZ or GvG stuff is dull, nah. I find them pretty entertaining from time to time and I know a lot of people like them so why not. But my heart still rests in the overall maintaining of the borderland and not the short burst of adrenaline those Open field fights yield.
Yeah, I sometimes feel a little bit offended when people say Arrow carts etc are for noobs, but I usually don’t mind that as I understand it wrecks your pleasure playing, but please don’t come and say how I should play ;P
PS. I’m not gonna give up t3 keep just because we can’t win you “fair” on the field. Thats why its upgraded, so it can whitstand big numbers of invaders whit less number of defenders.
:D of course play how you like this was more directed at when someone has a ton of people inside particularly guild groups and still loads of siege. I’m not interest in your keeps and towers I’d just like to roam around in the open field and find some good fights. I think its because i’ve always played in borderlands and often on opponents borderlands where if you have a fully upgraded keep an opposition server will just sit in it, I think we’ve had occasions where there has been 40 people inside a keep sitting there whilst we try and get inside to fight them because they won’t come out. the solo siege pro’s aren’t really what i was talking about, the 5 guys on siege holding out 20+ people and being really dogged in defence is also pretty awesome.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Just to come in with something unrelated to numbers blobbing etc. this is a request because frankly I hate siege in this game its dull! This applys to all servers including AG.
Can we get more open field fighting :-)
less arrow carts and canons more man vs man fighting. I get about 3 hours to wvw and I don’t want to spend it trying to anti siege your siege and then your anti siege with my anti anti siege. sitting on trebs and carts is rubbish lets have a proper fight! If you have a group on your door jump out and clear them don’t build 5 superior arrow carts.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Mate we couldnt belive our eyes… a wall or some sort of giant snake out of Omegas
I’m happy we could hold our claimed keep. Special thx to the recording guy taht got me 16:50 – sneaking inside. Didnt realise you were already at inner since i just jumped out of the capped langor 1min before o.O. your golems went faster though the wall then i could run from Langor – Watergate – Keep…haha..
So far this Match-Up is aweseome! Loved those small scale fights at Lake (HoB) and you guys from TUB really have an annoying amount of Warbanners in your Zerg and freaking tough builds. We just started getting more efficient in open field fights and hope to learn out of such fights we had there north of bay.
I would like to see more of this – perhaps another week, thats it for me
@Karahol.9840: Rain, APE and also lots of other small guilds are trying to do their best in Defence. Atleat the 50 Omegas took 2 T3’s down for a while.
Thx for this amazing weekend. Im sure if you looking for a 1on1 or something similar you will find ppl in APE.
Have Fun.
Thanks Ape, you too enjoyed the fights.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Thought I recognised this topic from the Aurora Glade forum. Definitely VII without a doubt, they have such a small stable of players in comparison to other guilds who can hand pick classes for gvg. Man for Man VII are playing the best stuff that I’ve seen.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Answer: How fast can you flip a camp solo on a thief?
That is why I roam solo on a Mesmer.
Out of all the classes in the game the fastest at flipping camps solo i’ve played is the Shotgun Shortbow thief, in PVT gear with some kind of regen food (pies, compotes) and spec’d for heal in stealth and inniative regen in stealth. I’ve seen the glass canon thieves do it by pulling guards one or two at a time, but PVT thieves with shortbows can just outlast all the guards and aoe them down with very consistant damage.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
The thief mesmer and to a lesser extent ele have some great escape mechanics. However I would argue that if you are looking for the best 1v1 classes the engineer and ranger could be put above these three when spec’d specifically to fight any opponent.
It is that ability of thieves to escape that make them so popular as 1v1, now I have every class in the game at level 80 most of them geared specifically for wvw. my first class was a thief, and it is a good class to play but it depends on how you personally score your success.
In my mind, if you are losing on a thief or mesmer or elementalist and then decide to use your unbelievably ridiculous ability to disengage from a fight to run away and regen your health and skills. I would count that as a loss. For that reason alone I like playing my guardian in WvW you can stay in fights against larger numbers and sometimes get some good victories, thief and mesmers in particular do win a lot of fights but many of them do it by running away or waiting for situations stacked incredibly to their advantage.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Gets a bit blobby for all servers at times but still some fun fights out there. We’ll be out again tonight, looking forward to more and respect to the Elona/SFR guilds that choose to go at it alone.
kitten why did you have to post something so coherent and nice Asrok. (see my less coherent rage post below)
I was going to say that HoB will happily fight all you kitten touching blobbers bring the numbers bring it, whole servers zone population in one spot sfr sure why not we’ll give it a go. mash 3 guilds together go for it :-)
this is purely in the interests of banter and to call you a bunch of kitten touchers for hugging each other and holding each others hands in wvw so much
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Was impressed with the fun and positive experience HoB had fighting Elona in Piken yesterday. You had some small groups a few even smaller than us, (think we had only 15-17) and they didn’t shy from fights and were nicely organised. Compared to how SFR went about the zone it was very refreshing.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Anyways last post here for me. I don’tt wanna talk with people that feel attacked everytime I post and stay defensive all the time.
Hope you enjoy this matchup and have no lag.
Its probably a good idea, loads of Piken players have a lot of respect for Nuke, but you’re setting a really bad example for your guild. Especially trying to single out HoB and VII and quoting ridiculous numbers and that we are the kind of guilds that endorse creating lag…..
you won’t find many servers where the opposition will try and leave individual guilds to fight superior numbers without adding but you will find that from Piken guilds.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
This is one of these changes that doesn’t need discussion, its rubbish because it makes the game less fun.
It encourages all the wrong things, and buffs fighting using an environment weapon from a safe location over using your actual character to fight against another.
They were powerful enough before but they had to be used with cc in choke points to be effective , now their blanket damage is ridculous.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
apparently there were a few Pikenese QQ’ing in here :-)
Thought I’d login and throw down some fighting talk to the AR blobalob and say keep it up keep coming in those massive groups so that HoB can adjust our specs a little until we crush your entire blob with just 25 people :-)
(this is friendly banter – now bring it!!)
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
HoB run on average 20 if we begin gathering friendlies we ditch commander tags, and port back to camp and do some eratic movement and generally we only have 1 or 2 that stick if that at all.
our highest numbers this week have been 25. that 25 last night destroyed and schooled AR in the gandara borderlands.
Ocassionally two guilds will happen upon the same enemy at the same time nothing we can do about it. Last night we had the entire AR zone and 30ish Gandarans fighting us around the South East of the Gandaran borderlands it was more than double hobs numbers and the end of it was a lot of loot bags to us so I won’t hear anything about HoB hiding behind numbers and not taking it to larger opposition.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Quite dissapointed by the matchup so far. BLAK (RA) are the only guild raid we’ve encountered and we are three days in. I guess we have been unlucky with zone choice.
VII will be in Gandara BL again tonight if anyone likes the 15-20 man guild roaming scene.
XxX are worth a look Vanz and CNTK. hopefully HoB will also make it into Gandara tonight.
we cant roam in gandara bl with our number where the enemy are always x2 x 3 :/
bandwagoning sucks gandara gain only brainless pug,other server guild of 30 40 50 member:/
HoB will probs have 20 ish VII will likely have 15.. always up for fights. speaking purely from HoB we try and get away from other guilds on PS as much as it is possible and try and shed the friendlies following us to be a smaller compact force.
if you are bringing 15 ish hob have smaller numbers on mondays, thursdays and saturdays of around 15 so hopefully we’ll see you on one of those nights. just a heads up that we aren’t running 30+ groups and my previous recommendation was made out of respect for the way you guys setup and run.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Quite dissapointed by the matchup so far. BLAK (RA) are the only guild raid we’ve encountered and we are three days in. I guess we have been unlucky with zone choice.
VII will be in Gandara BL again tonight if anyone likes the 15-20 man guild roaming scene.
XxX are worth a look Vanz and CNTK. hopefully HoB will also make it into Gandara tonight.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
the biggest problem is something like golems. before if you had 5 + golems and had oil to take out etc. it was pretty difficult to do it quickly without raising a flag. with the new system you can rock 10 golems up to a door and rinse it without the map markers barely batting an eye lid. it also sends people chasing shadows a lot which delays the ammount of time spent in pvp combat. I’d prefer them to revert back to make getting into decent fights quicker.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
I know our guild run into a bad situation like this but in this scenario the person that was kicked towards the end by our guild group was constantly afk for the whole dungeon for large stretches without any warning. towards the end of the fractal he was afk for absolutely no reason without any warning for a long stretch of time so they agreed to kick and replace with a guild member just to finally finish it.
the guy kicked went absolutely nuts about it, report this report you report that. but at the end of the day he had no explanation for why he hadn’t even responded to being kicked for a further 5 minutes so he was clearly just not at the keyboard.
not saying that this is always the situation but sometimes the person being kicked is kicked for a valid reason and replacing with a guild member is just done at the conveniance of getting it finished quickly for those who have been let down by the guilty party.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
// Mesmers and Elementalists eagerly encouraged to apply//
Hand of Blood are a WvW focused semi-hardcore PvP guild which dates back to the start of Warhammer Online in 2008. We’ve tasted success in the various MMOs we’ve experienced since then and feel we have finally found our spiritual home in GW2.
We a roster of ~50 and regularly have 20-25 online for our main WvW nights (Sunday, Tuesday & Wednesday). On all other nights we still try to be a significant presence in WvW.
We are currently looking to strengthen with some new WvW focused players. Due to RL stealing a couple of our best assets we have some openings.
We run highly organised warbands using TeamSpeak3 for comms. We expect all our new members to be dedicated WvWers keen to improve their game and help improve ours.
We’re proud of our server and are committed to helping make it the best it can be.
Head to http://handofblood.shivtr.com/ to make an application. Please make applications as full as possible as this will greatly increase your chance of success.
They have to review the ranking calculation, this is a fact. Servers that are overpopulated and are blowing the enemy should go up faster I agree this would create more balance for servers with fewer WvW population.
This is how their current math works, I never knew why they were thinking about revising it in the first place. in the current system the score differential and previous rating are used to calculate a rating increase.
so if A server is facerolling from t5 due to population increase they will jump up places quicker by having a higher score differential but a lower intial rating. if they do it again in their new matchup the same thing will happen.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
I like the idea of the reset because it will throw the EU table into chaos which is just fun in a weird sadistic sense.
but I also agree they were fine before and the previous rating system was designed to take into account your current rating in respect to the ratings of those you are currently playing which would reward massive landslide wins with quick rank bumps.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
I was about to second what SilverWF wrote due to our q’s my single roaming on non warband nights is just not happening. so its guild groups or not a lot going into the lakes right now from PS. think that goes for most of the regular roamers in HoB we end up saving ourselves for wvw organised nights.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
If they are a true glass cannon, which is a laughable spec in reality. you can kill them during their opener.
I agree we should have a better control on restealthing, revealed debuff needs to be a bit more prominent off certain skills. mobility wise we’re fine if we couldn’t restealth so regularly we’d be nicely balanced. (I don’t run a backstab spec, though as it offers little to WvW group play)
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
September 13th, 09:16 the date of Mike O briens announcement.
The situation now is different, the zones now have smaller populations, our server certainly had taken measures to assure that we had an even distribution of ques across the zones up until the last update and had informed the community as best we could that we were full. Along comes the update and due to the zone population dropping by some means be it intentional or accidental we now have a situation where WvW isn’t a flexible gameplay option its something that has to be qued for hours in advance.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Also comeon Anet let us know the new ratings system, just shows a complete lack of respect to all those who have paid for this game and put time and effort into it.
Arenanet have NO obligation to explain their internal systems to you, and I encourage them to keep them a secret.
Anet has EVERY obligation to explain stuff to us, if u buy a product from a company, it IS ur right to know and get reply from that company!
Anet would not have any obligation IF we didnt pay the money for the game.. they are not doing any charity!
We are as it looks like.
I disagree with this, they don’t have any obligation to reply to us at all.
but
they probably should and probably will reply to us at some point because frankly its good to give feedback to the people buying your product and virtual currency to keep them happy and to make sure your product retains users. my only issue is the speed:seriousness of issue ratio over the current wvw issues.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Its not about quality, its just about a response to two key issues:
1 the popularity of the new culling system which based on forum polls and feedback appears to be unpopular with 60-70% of the people who post here.
2 the reduced capacity of WvW map zones leading to stable (ish) wvw servers having lengthy game breaking ques and top tier servers being in an even worse position.
the reason this post exists is that people feel that these two topics are Major indeed. they are certainly more major than the Karka chest fiasco that was so promptly dealt with as these effect people getting into what is 1/3 of the game regularly.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
The way the current Dev Tracker is implemented makes tracking game changing dev responses too difficult.
The Dev tracker at present consists largely of responses made to individual technical support issues. Whilst this is working as intended it makes it a less valuable tool in keeping track of the actual game developers presence on the forums and provides listings of responses that are of no interest to the masses.
I would suggest having technical support admin accounts not be present in the current dev tracker.
whilst this is partially a suggestion and not a website bug it isn’t neccessary game related so I have put this thread here for your consideration and comments.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
So there is an issue with queue’s, well a massive issue.
But the worst issue is the lack of any responce from Anet. At least let us know they are aware of these problems and trying to fix them.
I’ve had a lack of community feeling since BWE#1. It just seems that Anet is more concerned with getting new content out (Halloween, Wintersday, Lost Shores, Flame and Frost) than fixing broken game mechanics in Dungeons, WvW, class skills/traits (Necro hint hint).
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I do agree wtih your main point but I’d like to add that the work done to the core of the game, even fixed and adjustments to events in the leveling progress has impressed me. many games are happy to solely cater to end game post release and leave the errors in the progression zones but arena net has developed an excellent pve world.
in terms of bug fixes for wvw its not been that bad when it has been delviered, the culling and zone populaton issue at present is really the only bad move.
What gets me more than the prioritisation of fixes/content etc. is the speed to reply to major wvw issues, even a we are looking into the issue or an acknowledgement of taking into account polls and opinions on culling would be better than “the wall of silence” (good title)
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
2nd Place: Gunnar’s Hold – man for man the best server so far, they previously lacked the numbers but those in wvw were better man for man than the other servers we’ve played against.
1st Kodash/Riverside Join first place – It probably should be gunnar’s at the top but some early matchups with kodash and more recent fights with riverside have shown that the german servers unlike the spanish and french, are up for a good fight. they have tenacity and a willingness to keep fighting late into the evenings even if they are losing.
keep the gold medals over in america its about the fights not the coverage
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
GW2 is a brilliant game but the communication on key wvw issues isn’t being handles particularly well.
If you reduced people able to get into fractals or dungeons by 67% I’d imagine you’d have immediate dev responses.
Also the Dev tracker shouldn’t include tech support responses as well it makes it incredibly difficult to follow to obtain meaningful data aimed at the community when its jumbled up with informaton targeted only at individuals.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
anyone else think that creating a jumping puzzle where you can pvp is a kitten good Idea, I definitely do. there is so much content in this game that caters to pve, WvW has 2 different maps (1 being duplicated 3 times) that its nice to create this different environment that is so unsafe and has no rules.
if you are going to go into the EB jumping puzzle go in and enjoy the prospect of not knowing who;‘s going to jump out unexpectantly and equip utilities and traits that will help. see it as a challenge but most importantly if you can’t get enjoyment out of it I’d probably just stay out of there.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
AoE needs to be balanced around the numbers you are fighting, if its 3 or more your aoe should be the best option, if you are fighting 1-2 then single target. since their is a maximum cap out at 5 anyway this gives A-Net some useful numbers.
Fighting under three enemies in WvW is harder to make happen than the opposite… so I don’t think this would change the OP’s complaint much.
Also, that would leave my warrior with virtually no skills that aren’t rifle-based worth using on a single target… unless it’s just targetable AoE they want to nerf (sorry necromancer, I nearly bothered to level you).
yes thats what i was agreeing with, not the OP.
the game has a 5 person limit if you look at aoe as long as the numbers are balanced as i suggested then the weapon set is fine. What arena net will be looking at is individual weapon sets that are favored because their aoe attack does more single target damage than another single target weapon. so the nerf won’t be blanket it will be specific to make sure that some classes don’t have aoe sets that are multi use across all situations becaus the single target damage difference is too small.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
if its a group of thieves I don’t see why they can’t just stealth and run out of LOS/Field of view. each of them can use a blinding powder to prolong the length of stealth. it would appear as though they all just vanished and if you weren’t looking at the guy who casts blinding powder you’d not see any animation.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
AoE needs to be balanced around the numbers you are fighting, if its 3 or more your aoe should be the best option, if you are fighting 1-2 then single target. since their is a maximum cap out at 5 anyway this gives A-Net some useful numbers.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
Gunners Hold or far shiver peaks, the only other servers not just throwing numbers at you and hoping for the best. not that numbers aren’t fun to fight but its nice when some thought goes into it.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
if anyone thinks its better its probably because their are half the numbers in the zones than their used to be. if you had the same load and this method it would be even worse than it actually is.
Kyús – 80 – Guardian// All Classes Level 80
Hand of Blood [HoB]
EU – Aurora Glade
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