Condi meta is so forgiving about mistakes. You can get hit by a billion condis and just clenase it up.
When the game had burst classes stronger, 1 mistake would mean the end for you. The game was unforgiving and the skill cap way higher. If you got cc’d you had to break stun right away, you had to dodge the right things and the gameplay was faster and team fights would end faster.
Now the team fights lasts longer, and you can make mistakes and get away with them.
The problem with this game is that Anet listens to ppl who are clueless.
Its like listening to ppl who cant make a 8×9 and they want to give their opinion in math issues.
People who cant win 1v1 with class advantage and they will call the duel imbalanced and something OP because they lack the skill: They mistake their own incompetence and lack of intelligence with true OPness.
So you should take Top players to give their opinion and discuss it. I am not suggesting to blindly hear the top players, but just saying to not take into account the general mass QQ, because they cant win a 1v1 with advantage and they call stuff OP when its just their lack of skill and intelligence.
The problem with this game is that Anet listens to ppl who are clueless.
Its like listening to ppl who cant make a 8×9 and they want to give their opinion in math issues.
People who cant win 1v1 with class advantage and they will call the duel imbalanced and something OP because they lack the skill: They mistake their own incompetence and lack of intelligence with true OPness.
My teamates and I barely get hit by aoe dmg, and we also run without a guardian and no bunkers.
And we win the game.
Seems like a l2p issue again.
they should, because most likely many top players know all classes and they know the potential of them, and wont mistake a l2p issue with a overpowered game mechanic.
Its not a problem, i got a suggestion for you.
Dont cluster ?
Most people that play high lvl tpvp and that plays with me dont think aoe is a problem.
All i saw are people crying about game mechanics that are not OP or a problem because they lack the hability and skill to overcome it.
So please stop trying to balance the game when you suck. Cause its ur problem , not the games problem.
Still waiting for a Dev response.
They have no idea how to balance this game in my opinion.
You should Always factor in how much skill you need to do the actions vs how hard is to avoid it:
A S/d light burst with double arcane. How easy is to do it? Very easy… How hard is to dodge it? Its instant and you have to PREDICT it, you dont have reaction time, you must predict it.
A pull for a big shatter on 2-3 ppl? How easy is to do it? Avarage to Hard ( and in 1500TPVP games + Including tournies I played as the Curse and the mist league, I havent gotten pulled more than twice into a multiple shatter , thats how hard its to do it ). How hard is to dodge it? Its very doable, u have at least 0.5 sec to break stun and dodge roll, and you can also predict it easily. You can avoid with stability and Aegis of guard to everyone, you can dodge roll when you see curtain. You can Invul right after you get pulled….
So I think it was just a L2p Issue, as playing vs other mesmers , I rarely got bursted into their pull. If I did, its because I reacted too slow.
If you are reacting too slow its a L2p issue, not an OP issue. Its not hard at all to have a stun break or mist form near ur finger and when you get pulled , you use it…
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The mesmer can still delay his pull and force players to prediction-dodge for nothing.
Doneim not talking about 1v1 dood.. team fights
So you want to be able to pull entire teams without anyone being able to dodge?
I’m confused. Again, how does being unpredictable NOT help in team fights?
u know how hard is to pull 4 ppl? and u know how easily u can avoid the pull?
it didnt need a nerf, it needed l2p . U cast stab, aegis for every1 = over. lol..
Now avoiding S/d burst is way harder.
The mesmer can still delay his pull and force players to prediction-dodge for nothing.
Done
im not talking about 1v1 dood.. team fights
By S./D burst, you means Buring Grasp… lol, really?? They have casting time dude, not instant…Learn the game a bit more bf putting down any statement as if it is a fact. Even so, gosh, Burning Grasp got a HORRIBLE hit box….
Lol…. The s/d burst is the lighting attunement + arcane skills. It actually takes u down 50% of HP vs a glass, same of a shatter…
The pull wasnt too fast. If you had a finger on stun breaker , if you reaction time was avarage ( 0.2-0.3 ) you had more than time to break stun from a shatter .
If it was too fast for you, your reaction time was > 0.2 sec, meaning your reaction time is above human avarage. ( meaning its not a OP problem from the skill, but lack of hability to break stun fast enough ).
now 1 sec you destroyed the focus pull and made other wep sets better for off hand mesmer.
Hahaha, this is a good one. Please stop spreading misinformation. Google Scholar some actual research studies on reaction time before you say something like this. Human reaction times for simple tasks like pressing a button when a white dot pops up on a black screen can be as low as 0.2s in healthy young adults that are hyper vigilant, but as soon as you get into any complex actions (like playing a game), reaction times go to 0.6-1.5 seconds.
Reacting fast should be always needed in a game, it distinguishes good from bad players.
Reacting fast is required on most e-sports/sports. Making it easier for people to react to stuff makes only the game ’ s skill cap lower.
I dont aprove of the nerf of overall burst dmg ( warriors , thieves , 100 nade engi ) . This makes gameplay slower, and newbie friendly.
Cond was alredy heavy on old patch, now its even stronger.
Good luck having ppl watch cond wars 2. its boring as hell , and the spetacular plays done with 100b , 100 nades and the pull wich was so nice to watch are being taken.
Overall its bad for the showmanship and for a game who wants to be e-sport.
Go play a fighting game competitively for 2-3 years. Grow a good reaction. Come back, and see if you can avoid a pull. These are things that can only be avoided when you are expecting them. Much like any standard 50/50 mixup in a fighting game.
is the pull hard to dodge?
what about instant skills like S/D ele burst wich is instant and Corrupt boon that has no Animation?
If your nerfing a skill under this principle, you should nerf all that are in the same category.
Also, lighting Burst on ELE and Condi transfer is faster than pull .
You can at least react to the pull,
Condi transfer and the Ele lighting burst on scepter is untelegraphed and instant. Also corrupt boon is INSTANT. So please now add animation to these skills cause its too fast.
To land a multiple shatter actually requires skill.
The pull wasnt too fast. If you had a finger on stun breaker , if you reaction time was avarage ( 0.2-0.3 ) you had more than time to break stun from a shatter .
If it was too fast for you, your reaction time was > 0.2 sec, meaning your reaction time is above human avarage. ( meaning its not a OP problem from the skill, but lack of hability to break stun fast enough ).
now 1 sec you destroyed the focus pull and made other wep sets better for off hand mesmer.
Hahaha, this is a good one. Please stop spreading misinformation. Google Scholar some actual research studies on reaction time before you say something like this. Human reaction times for simple tasks like pressing a button when a white dot pops up on a black screen can be as low as 0.2s in healthy young adults that are hyper vigilant, but as soon as you get into any complex actions (like playing a game), reaction times go to 0.6-1.5 seconds.
Reacting fast should be always needed in a game, it distinguishes good from bad players.
Reacting fast is required on most e-sports/sports. Making it easier for people to react to stuff makes only the game ’ s skill cap lower.
I dont aprove of the nerf of overall burst dmg ( warriors , thieves , 100 nade engi ) . This makes gameplay slower, and newbie friendly.
Cond was alredy heavy on old patch, now its even stronger.
Good luck having ppl watch cond wars 2. its boring as hell , and the spetacular plays done with 100b , 100 nades and the pull wich was so nice to watch are being taken.
Overall its bad for the showmanship and for a game who wants to be e-sport.
The pull wasnt too fast. If you had a finger on stun breaker , if you reaction time was avarage ( 0.2-0.3 ) you had more than time to break stun from a shatter .
If it was too fast for you, your reaction time was > 0.2 sec, meaning your reaction time is above human avarage. ( meaning its not a OP problem from the skill, but lack of hability to break stun fast enough ).
now 1 sec you destroyed the focus pull and made other wep sets better for off hand mesmer.
So far with the changes, they have not been congruent and they do not make sense.
From past patches, it seems like Anet is making changes to make the gameplay slower, by reducing burst overall ( 100b, 100 nades ). It is shifting to Guild wars 2 to Cond wars 2: Cond was alredy heavy on previous meta, now it is even stronger.
So who are you listenning to do these changes? If you want to go e-sports, you need to listen to people who know the game. You are greatly reducing the skill-cap to play this game ( As you said, you want “newers” players to have an easier time ) , and making it less e-sports. By reducing burst dmg you took out from the game the need to react fast and dodge burst. You took out many ways to 100-0 players.
The fast paced game from before is being replaced by longer and longer team fights, boring matches to watch.
You should start listenning to people who understand the game, and stop listenning to anyone who screams louder if you want your game to be e-sports.
I am also known by the name Ellen ari.
I need 2x players who can play alot of classes, but main 1-2 .
Need mainly engi / trap ranger .
Time is EST 11PM + to 2 AM + weekedays, and play tournies on sunday or saturday.
Post your experience.
The guy with 13-0 probably beat some high ranked players.
If you are 26% , yes, you have no clue what this game is about and you should stop making excuses for not practicing and perfecting your game
I always thought it was you lol
naw, ppl been saying hes better at mês than me , unlikely.
Tittle question.
Also it would be good if the leaderboards had a system where the player was forced to play a few matches or he his rating would slowly beggin to drop in like 2 or 3 weeks, so people who are afraid to play or inactive start dropping on the leaderboards.
tl;dr: they nerfed me and buffed others, qq.
not really. I main mesmer and ele. ( both got buffed ).
I am not a trash player like yourself lol. only bad players think the patch was good, i havent seen 1 good player like the patch.
Ask the top 100 QP leaderboards what they think about the patch and you will see it.
This last patch showed how clueless Anet is : Buffed things that didnt need a buff, and nerfed things that didnt need a nerf.
Buff GS for mesmer: why? lol…
Nerf Quickness? It was never a problem ….
We were getting little improvements but this is completly absurd. This shows how they dont even know their own game….
They should have buffed useless traits and skills so we would have more build diversity, the common builds were almost all balanced…
nooooooooooo nononononono
Eles even aint that strong.
learn 2 100-0 eles bro..
Or its the start of nerfing all burst skills because baddies cant dodge?
You main the same two that I pretty much mained with thief being a close second to ele.
I also played everything. And I got like to rank 25 in my first idk 5 days playing the game because I pretty much didn’t sleep.
Rank isn’t anything but telling me you’ve spent time playing.
I don’t care how well you stunbreak or dodge roll they aren’t going to save you when they are recharging.
5minute fight? tank vs tank.
would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
notFor two glass cannons to go at it for that long means they are both outplaying eachother extremely well.
Lmao, warrior have only 2 ways to stun you : Shield 4 – CD 25 and you have to be incredibly close, and bull rush CD 45 if I am not mistaken.
Both can be dodged .
Thief stuns only with pistol whip and basilik venom. Basilik CD 45 and pistol whip damage aint great without haste , so no biggy. Even with haste you can stun break then CC and then burst the thief.
Oh seems like you forgot this is a team game and that the warrior is not the only person there to do immobilizes/stuns and stuff to you.
He having a one hit kill is also useful for a sidesweep when the person is also in combat with another person or two, or three and he is defenseless from it.
and you forgot you have teamates by your side to help cover you with CC?
please dude, you are bad at this game and your opinion is incredibly worthless when it comes to balance.
have you ever heard of aura share and the endless CCs you can use to cover your teamate being focused?
Learn 2 play. please.
When someone is angry (as angry as you are right now) they will not be reasoned with they are right no matter how wrong they are.
When someone only talks and never proves its competence its useless to reason with them because their reason is incredibly poisoned by ignorance , and this ignorance shows in their poor performance.
I play among the best and vs the best.
you never touched tpvp, wich is the e-sport mode.
so yeah….
obviously troll is obvious.
He’s not trolling. He’s a highly skilled player. Having said that, I play a thief and I run a bursty build with high regen, condition clear stealth. I don’t use quickness, but I can see how it does really hurt some builds that rely on it. I don’t mind that they removed quickness, they just need to either A) lower the TTK for all by lowering the efectiveness of defensive builds or b) buff the abilities / builds that required quickness as a component to make it successful (ie GS warrior, pistol whip thief, etc).
And yes, it is very difficult to land 100b burst or pistol whip burst on good players. Any move that requires quickness was mostly used to coordinate focus burst on a target. I am pretty glassy as a thief, and I always have my finger on shadow step or blinding powder to be able to quickly negate incoming burst. If those are on CD and I get hit, that’s bad play on my part.
Anyway, I’m not partial one way or another on the removal of quickness, but I do see many builds that will become useless until they buff the abilities that relied on haste to make them effective.
hey, thanks feliaver.
but we are discussing with people that still use hotkeys 5,6,7,8,9,0 and their stun break is on 9… lol
9 to me is number 3 on my mouse, making my reflexes for my stunbreaks/blocks better than yours can possibly be using a keyboard no doubt, my thumb stays readily on it.
better than mine? lol…. you are nowhere near my skill bud…. I play on my mesmer Ellen ary and my ele masternewbz. Probably never seen me because you are too busy on wvw with low skilled players and hotjoins, while I am on tPvp.
I will 1v1 with a Underpowered spec and beat you 100%. call it.
There is no possible way you can react on your keyboard moving your fingers across your section of numbers in comparison to a thumb staying on the keybind 100% of the time, think for one second, and this will hit you and make perfect sense.
This sin’t me saying me vs you, this is me saying my mouse keybind with my thumb on it is more than > you and your keyboard keybind.
omg, ur bad and dumb, I dont use 5 6 7 8 9 0.. i was assuming you did cuz u cried hard about thief and warrior
You main the same two that I pretty much mained with thief being a close second to ele.
I also played everything. And I got like to rank 25 in my first idk 5 days playing the game because I pretty much didn’t sleep.
Rank isn’t anything but telling me you’ve spent time playing.
I don’t care how well you stunbreak or dodge roll they aren’t going to save you when they are recharging.
5minute fight? tank vs tank.
would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
notFor two glass cannons to go at it for that long means they are both outplaying eachother extremely well.
Lmao, warrior have only 2 ways to stun you : Shield 4 – CD 25 and you have to be incredibly close, and bull rush CD 45 if I am not mistaken.
Both can be dodged .
Thief stuns only with pistol whip and basilik venom. Basilik CD 45 and pistol whip damage aint great without haste , so no biggy. Even with haste you can stun break then CC and then burst the thief.
Oh seems like you forgot this is a team game and that the warrior is not the only person there to do immobilizes/stuns and stuff to you.
He having a one hit kill is also useful for a sidesweep when the person is also in combat with another person or two, or three and he is defenseless from it.
and you forgot you have teamates by your side to help cover you with CC?
please dude, you are bad at this game and your opinion is incredibly worthless when it comes to balance.
have you ever heard of aura share and the endless CCs you can use to cover your teamate being focused?
besides if an ally gives you protection -33% dmg it will garantee u will survive through the burst even if you eat it all. and your allies can heal you too.
So i dont see your point
Learn 2 play. please.
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obviously troll is obvious.
He’s not trolling. He’s a highly skilled player. Having said that, I play a thief and I run a bursty build with high regen, condition clear stealth. I don’t use quickness, but I can see how it does really hurt some builds that rely on it. I don’t mind that they removed quickness, they just need to either A) lower the TTK for all by lowering the efectiveness of defensive builds or b) buff the abilities / builds that required quickness as a component to make it successful (ie GS warrior, pistol whip thief, etc).
And yes, it is very difficult to land 100b burst or pistol whip burst on good players. Any move that requires quickness was mostly used to coordinate focus burst on a target. I am pretty glassy as a thief, and I always have my finger on shadow step or blinding powder to be able to quickly negate incoming burst. If those are on CD and I get hit, that’s bad play on my part.
Anyway, I’m not partial one way or another on the removal of quickness, but I do see many builds that will become useless until they buff the abilities that relied on haste to make them effective.
hey, thanks feliaver.
but we are discussing with people that still use hotkeys 5,6,7,8,9,0 and their stun break is on 9… lol
9 to me is number 3 on my mouse, making my reflexes for my stunbreaks/blocks better than yours can possibly be using a keyboard no doubt, my thumb stays readily on it.
better than mine? lol…. you are nowhere near my skill bud…. I play on my mesmer Ellen ary and my ele masternewbz. Probably never seen me because you are too busy on wvw with low skilled players and hotjoins, while I am on tPvp.
I will 1v1 with a Underpowered spec and beat you 100%. call it.
This game isn’t an FPS (and besides, when was CS last played on a mayor tournament with a price pool etc).
MMOs especially team based MMOs should be based around a team. That includes that a team is required to kill someone, not just one person to burst them down.
That time should also be high enough for your team to help you (other than getting you up from the downed state).
If you want a team based game, than fight should last at least 4~5s with some heavy burst.
And a fight should require a team to focus on downing someone. Not necessarily by hitting the same target, but also be knocking back allies, rooting allies, or any other form of CC towards those going to help your target.
Dude, a 1v1 burst vs burst lasts way longer thakittensec.
if your fights 1v1 are ending faster than 10 seconds you are incredibly bad at this game, I dont care wich spec vs wich spec.
You main the same two that I pretty much mained with thief being a close second to ele.
I also played everything. And I got like to rank 25 in my first idk 5 days playing the game because I pretty much didn’t sleep.
Rank isn’t anything but telling me you’ve spent time playing.
I don’t care how well you stunbreak or dodge roll they aren’t going to save you when they are recharging.
5minute fight? tank vs tank.
would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
notFor two glass cannons to go at it for that long means they are both outplaying eachother extremely well.
Lmao, warrior have only 2 ways to stun you : Shield 4 – CD 25 and you have to be incredibly close, and bull rush CD 45 if I am not mistaken.
Both can be dodged .
Thief stuns only with pistol whip and basilik venom. Basilik CD 45 and pistol whip damage aint great without haste , so no biggy. Even with haste you can stun break then CC and then burst the thief.
obviously troll is obvious.
He’s not trolling. He’s a highly skilled player. Having said that, I play a thief and I run a bursty build with high regen, condition clear stealth. I don’t use quickness, but I can see how it does really hurt some builds that rely on it. I don’t mind that they removed quickness, they just need to either A) lower the TTK for all by lowering the efectiveness of defensive builds or b) buff the abilities / builds that required quickness as a component to make it successful (ie GS warrior, pistol whip thief, etc).
And yes, it is very difficult to land 100b burst or pistol whip burst on good players. Any move that requires quickness was mostly used to coordinate focus burst on a target. I am pretty glassy as a thief, and I always have my finger on shadow step or blinding powder to be able to quickly negate incoming burst. If those are on CD and I get hit, that’s bad play on my part.
Anyway, I’m not partial one way or another on the removal of quickness, but I do see many builds that will become useless until they buff the abilities that relied on haste to make them effective.
hey, thanks feliaver.
but we are discussing with people that still use hotkeys 5,6,7,8,9,0 and their stun break is on 9… lol
You act like there cannot be a 5 minute fight between two players outsmarting eachother by using quick thinking and reflexes without the fight ending in one hit.
This is where your problem lies.
5 minute fight is a boring gameplay. Are you serious?
Good players dont make silly mistakes and you are looking for forgiveness on your mistakes.
Go play a non e-sport game.
E-sports needs to have a high skill cap.
1 mistake = loss.
You are too angry about losing easymode to accept that one hit kills are not good for an mmo, period.
Rofl? I dont even play warrior or thief…
I play all classes , I main ele and mesmer.
But yeah, you are bad . you are crying about warrior and thief. I used to cry about thief and warrior when i was rank 5 then i learned how to stun break and dodge roll.
lol, dude, are you even on QP ladder?
lol dude, do you even lift?
rofl , are you even serious?
obviously troll is obvious.
I suppose that’s what I get for responding to someone named Masternewbz. It must be nice to be a big enough simpleton to find trolling a fulfilling pasttime. EVERYTHING is entertaining when you’re not smart enough to realize how boring being a completely useless waste of space is.
lol, dude, are you even on QP ladder? QP ladder doesnt even garantee you are good, but being outside of it garantees you are incredibly bad… you are on sPvp forums buddy, if you think Burst damage decreases skill cap in this game you are so wrong lol…
Landing burst is harder than defending.
If you think otherwise you are very very bad at this game.
You act like there cannot be a 5 minute fight between two players outsmarting eachother by using quick thinking and reflexes without the fight ending in one hit.
This is where your problem lies.
5 minute fight is a boring gameplay. Are you serious?
Good players dont make silly mistakes and you are looking for forgiveness on your mistakes.
Go play a non e-sport game.
E-sports needs to have a high skill cap.
1 mistake = loss.
I about quit during beta.
This should be enough said.
I did however stick it through until I decided it wasn’t worth hanging around any longer because GvG was not getting implemented.
I was more of a wvw player because spvp and the whole foundation of this game isn’t really based on skill.
1.) If I have one skill that is defensive on my ele for example that is a damage ele (glass cannon pretty much) I use it for backstab, and then it goes on 60 second recharge, now for those 60 seconds, aside from dodges which will get used and be on recharge, I am going to be defenseless soon enough.
2.) Yes you are.
3.) You do not have to play high level tpvp to know these things at all. Your allies won’t always be able to cc, you know you are relying on what ifs, I am relying on the cold hard facts.
rofl… A guy who played beta is giving his opinion.
beat my Ele 1v1 with a burst damage guy thief or warrior I will bet you a billion dollars you wont touch me.
holly christ really? Ele have 2 armors, + 2 hard CC . lol are you kidding me?
Dude eles are #1 1v1 and thiefs and warriors * burst damages * are nowhere near the best 1v1ers.
And the quickness nerf made warrior 100% useless.
You are probably looking at this from a bunker ele point of view. Not the ele that is made to burst down people which his defense is blind and the arcane bubble, that is it.
rofl….. I dont have the time or patience to teach newbies like you to play.
i will wear zerks and own your thief or warrior.
Now go and learn to play before posting.
I about quit during beta.
This should be enough said.
I did however stick it through until I decided it wasn’t worth hanging around any longer because GvG was not getting implemented.
I was more of a wvw player because spvp and the whole foundation of this game isn’t really based on skill.
1.) If I have one skill that is defensive on my ele for example that is a damage ele (glass cannon pretty much) I use it for backstab, and then it goes on 60 second recharge, now for those 60 seconds, aside from dodges which will get used and be on recharge, I am going to be defenseless soon enough.
2.) Yes you are.
3.) You do not have to play high level tpvp to know these things at all. Your allies won’t always be able to cc, you know you are relying on what ifs, I am relying on the cold hard facts.
rofl… A guy who played beta is giving his opinion.
beat my Ele 1v1 with a burst damage guy thief or warrior I will bet you a billion dollars you wont touch me.
holly christ really? Ele have 2 armors, + 2 hard CC . lol are you kidding me?
Dude eles are #1 1v1 and thiefs and warriors * burst damages * are nowhere near the best 1v1ers.
And the quickness nerf made warrior 100% useless.
If anything toning down burst will make this game more skill dependent. Burst still has a place, but it requires no thought or effort when you can frontload an entire health bar simply because your cooldowns are available. Having to actually bait out your opponents defenses, coordinate with another teammate, or whittle down your enemies health to a point where your burst can be used as a finisher takes a lot more skill then just insta-killing anyone who isn’t twitching their finger over a stun break constantly lest they die in less than a second.
Sorry, but the burden of skill should be on the burster as well as the burstee.
Do you realize its alredy incredibly hard to land a burst on a competent player?
if you dont have a stun breaker ready you are a newbie.
if you never played high level Tpvp you are a newbie.
You are saying like its hard to dodge burst damage, but its harder to land.
If you are being killed by burst damage then I suggest you learn to play this game.
Quick reactions times and skill can be needed in a fight that does not last 2 seconds.
One hitting someone, pressing one button to take nearly all of their hp isn’t really on par with what I would consider skill.
if you are dying in 2 seconds its a learn 2 play issue and your opinion is incredibly worthless.
There is so many things wrong with your statement I don’t even need to begin.
1.) long recharge defenses you will be running around completely defenseless at times.
2.) you are defending a one button win – which is the exact opposite of skill.
I mean sure it was skill when everyone is using a sniper rifle in halo and you are seeing who is faster at detecting and aiming to land that one shot, oh and dodging.
But this is not really that kind of game, or SHOULDN’T BE.
It’s more of a mindframe you are carrying around that is non-existant in the gw1 community.
1- If you are running on cooldowns then thats your own fault. if you waste them its your own fault. Or if you used it correctly then you should have a teamate CC for you and protect you
2- Im not defending a one button win ,its harder to land than to defend.
You probably never played high level Tpvp game. how much QP do you have?
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Quick reactions times and skill can be needed in a fight that does not last 2 seconds.
One hitting someone, pressing one button to take nearly all of their hp isn’t really on par with what I would consider skill.
if you are dying in 2 seconds its a learn 2 play issue and your opinion is incredibly worthless balance wise.
if you are not competent at dodging a warrior burst or a thief burst then you have no clue how to play this game.
Burst classes in this game are too extreme. They were one (of the several) factors that were contributing for casuals to quit pvp. Bunker builds are also a problem, but at least they don’t pop out of nowhere and instant-kill new players who are still trying to understand the game.
Generally, players should still require fast reactions. 50% faster is still plenty. It’s just no longer exaggerated.
Battles that are decided in 2 or 3 seconds, in a game designed to be fun around using plenty of skills, weapon swapping, etc, was just not working.
if you died in 2 or 3 seconds you are a newbie and its a learn 2 play issue
Lack of skill and game knowlodge. I dont see what is your argument. have you ever heard of stun breakers and dodge rolls?
In counter strike ( E-sport ) you can die in 0.2 seconds with a headshot, and that is not a reason for Valve to listen to newbies that want a nerf on the headshot cause they get killed in 0.2 sec.
The answer is L2P.
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If you keep toning down Burst damage you will get Boring and slower and slower fights ….
this is newbie friendly.
Counter strike is an e-sport, and it does not forgive if you make a mistake. Very fast gameplay and skill required.
By toning down haste and burst damage you make your game less Skill required :
You can call fast reaction time part of being skilled, and also having awareness of the Burst profession also part of being skilled.
By toning down burst damage you make it easier to survive, because you dont need to have that Fast reaction time neither the awareness to spot the Burst profession so you can avoid his stomp.
Now you make it easier for newbies to survive… this game has no future as e-sport.
Wow, so the player you stomped will have 15 sec respawn + time to get to middle. So about 30 secs you have a 3v2 advantage. Gl when third is coming and they stomp you with timewarp…cuz obviously you wasted it before. I don’t get this tactic, you should try it without timwarp mabye
Well the point of my strategy is to show advantage of having mesmer/guardian/ele in team, or should I say its even necessity. You saying your mesmer coming to mid and using time warp is just further proving my point about these 3.
All our discussion was actually countering ele on far node + having guardian on mid. And seems like both of us want mesmer with time warp in part of solution.no i would prefare any of the top 5 scores over a mesmer. time warp doesnot make up for the rest of the team fight the top 5 classes bring to the team fight or 3v3. your compareing 10 seconds every 4 min to 3 min and 50 seconds of a better class. and thats saying you are in a 3v3 against kitten that dont just jump off the timewarp like most ppl do
ur original reason for having mesmer was to put him at home node and portal play that. that was an aweful reason for a mesmer. but now it changed into take a mesmer for time warp and i feel that is a awful reason as well. i cant justify bringing a mesmer over any of the top 5 scored classes because there is no comparison.
It is worth bringing a mesmer if that mesmer is ellen ary.
please no jokes lets keep this conversation serious.
its not a joke. ellen ary kitten every1
Wow, so the player you stomped will have 15 sec respawn + time to get to middle. So about 30 secs you have a 3v2 advantage. Gl when third is coming and they stomp you with timewarp…cuz obviously you wasted it before. I don’t get this tactic, you should try it without timwarp mabye
Well the point of my strategy is to show advantage of having mesmer/guardian/ele in team, or should I say its even necessity. You saying your mesmer coming to mid and using time warp is just further proving my point about these 3.
All our discussion was actually countering ele on far node + having guardian on mid. And seems like both of us want mesmer with time warp in part of solution.no i would prefare any of the top 5 scores over a mesmer. time warp doesnot make up for the rest of the team fight the top 5 classes bring to the team fight or 3v3. your compareing 10 seconds every 4 min to 3 min and 50 seconds of a better class. and thats saying you are in a 3v3 against kitten that dont just jump off the timewarp like most ppl do
ur original reason for having mesmer was to put him at home node and portal play that. that was an aweful reason for a mesmer. but now it changed into take a mesmer for time warp and i feel that is a awful reason as well. i cant justify bringing a mesmer over any of the top 5 scored classes because there is no comparison.
It is worth bringing a mesmer if that mesmer is ellen ary.
This new patch killed competitive gaming.
about 50% of the competitive players quit the game. well done Anet
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