Unhappy being lock of contents , the argument here if we could get legendary weapon off black lion trading post why not legendary Armour.
Because raids in most games are about rewards in addition to challenge, and there are two factors.
The reward must be the best of its type (usually gear stats) the game offers, at least in PvE.
Some players who raid look for prestige to be had by displaying the raid reward.
If Legendary Armor was sellable, both of those reasons would be invalidated. Also, you might note that the second iterations of Legendary Weapons are account bound also. This is largely because Anet paid heed to comments that there was no prestige to be had in first tier Legendary Weapons because one never knew if they were obtained via play or via credit card.
Function wise the ability to change build for legendary armour is interesting one.
As for prestige (Personally didn’t like the skin on light legendary armour)
There is nothing casual about legendary armour its just grind.
Not everyone have infinite amount of time to spend playing time once lost you can never get back.Which is more valuable? Remember Grindwars?
Raid have becoming soccer game where everyone get a free kick out of it (Pug friendly).
The raid is pretty toxic by the front door by pug standard where there is high requirement upfront.Raid can be extremely time consuming and can be frustrating.
Unhappy being lock of contents , the argument here if we could get legendary weapon off black lion trading post why not legendary Armour.
Hope Anet can do something about it as i do not want to spend a full frustrating day putting up with thing doing raid for legendary Armour.
Sorry if I am derailing the topic but with your experiences,, do you think minstrel chrono in fractal pugs worth it? I like playing support roles in fracs such as heal druid (aldo condi ranger and condi druid, which is such a treat) and zerk chrono, and minstrel seems like a good compromise between them.
It depends on your group and the boss your facing at times. Most of the time zerk chrono is good enough for most parts in T4 Fotm and pugs group are decently equipped and might not need it.
It only useful when it comes to heavy hitting bosses like Bloomhunger’s or 100 cm this is where minstrel comes in. A clear way to to know if your team is lacking in support is when you see 2-3 guys keep dying or wiping then its good time to go full support.
Chrono healing is decent but not great as mantra have long casting time prep time (and can be interrupted) but its as buffer its can provide most boons with decent duration as well as speeding up the dps on all player.
Recently seeing comments like your dps low kind of comment (It as good as say your dps sux ) Players want to go fast as furious it ok with me but don’t spoil others fun in a way. It better not to comment too much and stick to solution below.
A simple solution to this might be to leave games that your unhappy with and go with lfg like (Casual) (Average) or (elitist kitten) depending on your preference and play style . Nobody like put up with thing they don’t like (As if we don’t have enough of those in life, to bring it here is just bad)
Video Games are to have fun if your not having fun then it might be a wrong video game for you.
It think the issue here is “LAG” i am sure alot player experience this when 100 cm is first introduce the ping had gone up by 50 ms -100 ms personally.
It more about managing a smooth game without everyone complaining about it. On top of that the loot is quite bad for the amount of effort put into playing it.
Never or less it fun to play it as form of challenging game mode(Once in a while).
@Armaduras
Well fingers cross nothing is for certain, Anet ever sold Heroes in Gw 1 to players to address the problem before but it might be very long wait for it.If they could roll it out sooner it will be great for those who wants it.
I could not have agree with you more CoE is one of the dungeon planned to run if i had the time. Most of the time on weekday it quite empty,weekend are slight better during NA timing. Could only hope for the best.
@Healix
Outnumbered buff i believe have been suggested before so far don’t see any change yet. As for NPC, Anet does pretty good job for the previous NPC in Gw 1 and is pretty well know for NPC to run prefect interrupt combo till the point players banging for nerf.
Anet have previous had it in Gw1 so is just matter or copy and paste most of the source code. Previous Henchmen just follow very simple method of following a player and spam preset skills on contact .It not that different from the pets your see from rangers. Anet have the means to do it, it just a matter of wanting to do it.(They could sell heroes to players if they wanted to and if there is demand for it)
@Linken
Yeah it will be good to have them in explorable path in otherwise bad situation.
@Bandrell
It does help to have supportive guild but everyone have limited time on their hand so it either to help a guildmate or progress toward your own goals. It kind of hard to choose between the two at times. Thou Anet add other ways to earn those exotic in PvP and WvW it might not be that great too (that cannon fodder feeling that would make people rage quit is still there)
Lately found dungeons and certain area e.g silverwaste quite empty and not many players in the map mostly PvE content.
Found a new players wanting to do dungeon mostly get their exotic amour etc but most older player have move on to newer content (tired playing old dungeon, been there done that kind of issues) and the waiting can vary from 5mins – 1hr pacific timing.
Wondering Anet have any plans to address the issues ? Maybe by adding Henchman or heroes in guildwars 1.
Interesting topic, anyway here is my opinion on the subject. I dont think a more rewarding OP gear will be great idea .It the end will end up another grind fest and might force players to play game content that they might dislike to begin with.
As we all know gears are link to Pve and wvw in general. So any changes will affect gameplay in general from skill base gameplay to gear base gameplay. If gears is requirement is set too high wvw will be affected in a way less players might want to try out. For pve it might isolate player base into elitist game (unless you have this gear your kick from the party )a less friendly game in a way. If you have tried diablo 3 RNG gear grind ,you know that feeling of a hamster running on hamster wheel. It might or might not be fun for but it depends on your preference. I am sure alot farmer would like this since it a capitalism market and it add value to your wares. It might be one way to enjoy rewards of your hard work then again it just a game.
The idea have merits but might require alot of work. Maybe simple solution might be to just provide a free portal to dungeons in lion arch and apply a choice for fractual reward or dungeon tokens. That way it might get people to play dungeon again.
Hmmm would love to have sword , great sword, pistol or rifle for new weapons, chance are most ele will fry in melee range. sometime dunno if it is bad joke. To be frank it kind of pointless to have whole lot of weapon but your only be using a fix set really prefer weapon swap then a new weapon.
Hmmm ,Well can always learn to play a musical instrument . Pretty much bored of wrecking monster all day too. Just play some other stuff (something you didn’t try before) until new content kicks in.
None of the latest threads, Ele is viable, look what I do with it, means something.
What has a meaning with the start of the ESL Season 2, we will see 0 presentation of it in the leagues. I am quite sure, along with the Warrior, no ESL team will contain one.
That would mean there will be 7 more viable class to play with it, may be 6 because I am not sure how viable Mesmer would be, people will take because of the portal or leave it out.
So I waiting for that to be proof that Ele is viable or not, that is the only way ANet will accept that they screw the Ele and do something about, probably introducing Cele to Ele, by putting vitality/healing to some Water trait lines.
Until then I have no time to waste to Ele, I am Ele main from the start of the game, but I already do much better with Druid, with Celestial form you can say 3 attunements compared to Eles 4 or Engineer with it kits much closer to the Ele.
Druid has much more sustain then Ele ever did have and has 15K HP and medium armor, Engi has no burst healing but its sustain is crazy and has 15K and medium armor. They all do what I expect an Ele should do, so why I should get nerf breakdown trying to play Ele with it miniscule life pool and damage.
When ANet will accept that they screwed I will comeback to the class but when Ele was this bad last time, I tried for one year to make it work in the belief I can beat the odds, I don’t have one more year to waste.
I think most ele fail might lack of HP not enough armour etc etc. But most of them don’t realize it more of mind set issue. It would take more then just 1 year to master a class. And that depends on how good you are. Maybe what i can suggest is try playing other class for a change. You can start of with heavy , medium, then lastly light class for a change to re learn what you have missed. (There are short cuts like cookie cutter but you will fail to learn certain lesson needed when the next balance hit you are doomed to fail again) with that been said there alway a except to the case. Life journey not the destination have fun and enjoy the game.
Another lovely quote, I said I am main-ing this class for 4 years, you still have nothing better then say L2P.
I am pointing above all the contradiction of ANet towards Ele, Druid having more healing, nearly 3 attunements compared Ele’s 4 (weapon swaps and Celestial form), having more mobility, comparable damage to Ele with same gear and still having 15K HP pool and medium armor. Or Engineer, which you can clearly say has more sustain then Ele, nearly same amount of attunements because of Kits and definitely more damage and still have 15K HP and medium armor and only thing you can tell me L2P.
Well we will see in the Season 2 of the ESL how much of the top players have to L2P Ele so we will have Ele’s in teams.
Hi posthumecaver, you might have misinterpreted what meant as a whole. For WvW , PVE Ele still pretty much in good place not saying its easily to play thou. It does have very low hp and heal ratio if you compare to druid( There is a build around this for WvW D/F D/D is still possible for roaming). Druid is alot easier to play then ele eg. better heal/ long boons. Relative easy to proc might. As for PvP it does feel rather pigeon hole into support build. Without Celeste D/D is alot harder to play .At least thief get to stealth (Not that it is of any use recent meta Trapper build are one of the few killer in spike damage against low hp characters ) but Rotation table is alot harder(yes you do need to be master pianist to play) now one daze or stun is enough to kill an ele. You need to dodge every 10 sec or lesser if you going stay alive cause you just can’t out sustain with celestial like before. Currently still working a stable ele build for pvp might take some time to get a working meta out(Limited time to play). Frustration is real, ele one of those class you do die alot. but It even more rewarding when you get it right (playing with handicap, it what meant to be leet if you do win ) this is a bragging right and even more exciting to watch then tank necro if you get what i mean. No one will expect ele to pawn right. Have abit more faith since you liked the class so much.
None of the latest threads, Ele is viable, look what I do with it, means something.
What has a meaning with the start of the ESL Season 2, we will see 0 presentation of it in the leagues. I am quite sure, along with the Warrior, no ESL team will contain one.
That would mean there will be 7 more viable class to play with it, may be 6 because I am not sure how viable Mesmer would be, people will take because of the portal or leave it out.
So I waiting for that to be proof that Ele is viable or not, that is the only way ANet will accept that they screw the Ele and do something about, probably introducing Cele to Ele, by putting vitality/healing to some Water trait lines.
Until then I have no time to waste to Ele, I am Ele main from the start of the game, but I already do much better with Druid, with Celestial form you can say 3 attunements compared to Eles 4 or Engineer with it kits much closer to the Ele.
Druid has much more sustain then Ele ever did have and has 15K HP and medium armor, Engi has no burst healing but its sustain is crazy and has 15K and medium armor. They all do what I expect an Ele should do, so why I should get nerf breakdown trying to play Ele with it miniscule life pool and damage.
When ANet will accept that they screwed I will comeback to the class but when Ele was this bad last time, I tried for one year to make it work in the belief I can beat the odds, I don’t have one more year to waste.
I think most ele fail might lack of HP not enough armour etc etc. But most of them don’t realize it more of mind set issue. It would take more then just 1 year to master a class. And that depends on how good you are. Maybe what i can suggest is try playing other class for a change. You can start of with heavy , medium, then lastly light class for a change to re learn what you have missed. (There are short cuts like cookie cutter but you will fail to learn certain lesson needed when the next balance hit you are doomed to fail again) with that been said there alway a except to the case. Life journey not the destination have fun and enjoy the game.
To be frank what i am doing in fractal now is something like this. if you done fractal for a year everyone knows the content is old.It is just for workout on the old punching bag and rewards that comes with it. Maybe few extra gold and maybe after alot of round a ascended item (Hopefully not another ring..) (If you reach fractal at this stage exotic and rare are just ecto salvage items for crafting) It does not upgrade your current Armour . If you say the reward great i can only say lol .It is like drop in the bucket for what these players are after.
The question here is why player prefer to do what they do. Its a simple choice that is hardwired. Its either the running around or another boxing round. So what do you enjoy about the game.
There will come a time when our character dies .I guess whats left is just old picture when it first started out. Can’t help feeling sad, as at some point of time we are fated to expire just like everything else in the world.
Just a random speculation, will Revenant be duel wield or what type of weapons will revenant be wielding. We all know Rytlock Brimstone was warrior by profession previously before he fell into the mist chasing Sohothin. Guessing Revenant Rytlock might wield weapons as similar to warrior . Twin Legendary sword exist such as Sohothin & Magdaer suggest this as well. It just a guess what do you guy think.
Ele benefited from celestial build because of extra stats in all areas, heal, critical, condition etc. Celestial build don’t work very well unless you can produce 25 stacks of might which is not possible to self proc on mes unlike ele. Mesmer damage is pretty low on zerker build compare to other classes. On celestial build your DPS is rock bottom,unless your planning to be support mes.
One of the biggest problem with the mesmer is it’s slow & clunky from skills casting time. Unless the timing is right, you will never out skill, or out class other classes due to there quick speed on there skills vs the mesmers. It makes all the difference in the world.
(thief—spam..2-2-2.. ur dead!)
To be fair, if you manage to survive the 2-2-2 spam, that thief is in trouble. A thief is speedy, but if you don’t control the speed, the thief will flop.
If anything, I think thief is more difficult to master than mesmer in a lot of instances.
Mastering a class take time, to the pro thief you will not land so much a hit. After stealth fight reset Thief much better odds like finishing the job or run away. Thou Thief have lowest health (agree with this point).It too have pretty high DPS and evade/stealth in the game
Um… Mesmer is good because I can kill with it. I don’t feel like going into all the logic of it, but I generally kill most other classes with my mesmer. Sometimes they kill me, that happens, but I think that’s the same for everyone. So, to answer your non-question, mesmer is not as below other classes as you make it out to be. Our DPS comes from lots of skills in a short amount of time, not like spamming in way of the thief, but combo-ing[e.g. Shatter Combo]. Our survivability does not come a lot from our armor, but our avoidance of damage in the first place[e.g. stealth, evasion, distortion, some blocks]. Mesmer is slightly different in its play style in its heavy reliance on our illusion and shatter mechanics, so you may have not been playing it to its fullest potential.
The thing is alot of our DPS comes from phantasms and shatters with newly add condition applys to clones don’t think it work well as clone goes down pretty fast to be useful (Best used in point blank range). Comparing DPS on each class our DPS really bad compare to press 1 press 1. I see really big numbers on certain classes.
lemme repeat that: your mind wrack needs to hit 3 separate times in order to accumulate the damage remotely similar to a thieves stealthed backstab.
It has to hit 3 times,indeed,but whereas a thief’s backstab only hits once you hit THREE times. You can negate a thief’s backstab,but alot harder negating all three shatters. Shatter is also AOE,a thieves backstab is not. A shatter can remove boons on hit (1 removed boon per illusion shattered,also AOE), a thief’s backstab does not.
all the while you’re either kiting around with the glassiest stats ingame
Every mesmer has a health pool of around 19k health,a thief only has around 13k on average. I’m aware they have medium armor,thus slightly better stats, but they mostly have to choose on what they want to spend their initiative on,defense or offense.
(and dont give me that “thieves have to do that too” argument because you and i both know well enough that thieves have more than enough mobility and stealth to get away from anything)
True,I agree on this,but we also have quite a few defensive skills to choose from as well,both on our utilities AND weapons. Plus traits (for ex. 3% less dmg per illusion out).
In fact,there’s a defensive skill on almost every weapon we have,plus 2 shatters which is defensive,and lots of utilities.
We are glass,but we have lots of defensive mechanisms/skills to make up for that. And,ofc,there’s the dodge button everyone can learn to use,at the right times,that is.
Mesmer isn’t sub-par to any class,no class is sub par to anyone. Sure,if you use META builds which everyone knows the “rotation” on and can counter easily you’ll feel quite sub-par but believe me,professions are what YOU make of them.
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The same person playing different class will see how class gap exist and no amount of skill can gap that. So the conclusion is balance issues. And yes it is impossible to have perfect balance but some class is just over the roof atm
I feel you and I do understand were you are coming from. But like what chaos said, hang in there and it might just turn round for you.
I once find it very difficult to get my head around the class but stick with it. Hours of pve, and Pvp later, I now feel very comfortable with the class to the point of I can hold my own against anyone in a 1v1 in PvP
Also you have to understand that the class is not really about front loadbustlike most other class, at list that is how I play. Stones shatter can put any class from 100%hp down 10% if the opponent an’t careful.
If you can, try and stick with it, it might just turn around for you, but if you can’t then there are other class you can try
The Quote goes like this pain+ trying to kill a brick wall. Peeling takes time which is why feel that mesmer are sub par in a way.
Mesmers should be able to freely rant about Mesmer frustrations. =P
… Even if they’re somewhat inaccurate frustrations.
Mystic, besides thieves and the occasional ele/guardian a well-played Mesmer is absolutely devastating on the battlefield. Especially shatter Mesmer. You have some of the best aoe burst damage in the game and are wildly hard to kill with blink/decoy/F4Distortion.
if you feel your damage is bad, or getting rolled by Necros then you can’t blame their class or your class for that, because you’re definitely doing something wrong. This isn’t a class issue, its a lack of experience. Keep at it, Mesmer are known to be a hard class to play for a reason, and things will start to turn around for sure.
…. And back to Dragon Age for me.
I m not too sure if i want to comment on necros atm since its going to go down can of worms (Going to keep quiet on the subject). As for lack of experience wouldn’t say that, since played all classes decently . Mesmer still my main since pre. You could say been playing mesmer for a very long time. Gulity of face rolling on necro also .And no i know how to counter provided its 1v1 or maybe 1v2 at best. Some classes are just better at it.
You know what gets my goat sometimes? The weather. So bloody inconsistent, and so OP!
~Only ranting.
If your going to quote word for word your missing the point. Example best possible meta of each class vs best possible meta for mesmer . Other classes are alot stronger then mesmer.
Mystic, mesmers can be deadly in pvp. They’re not an easy class to master, so yes. It takes time and patience.
Was this soloq, tq, hotjoin, or duels? And what build were you using?
I run just about 80% – 90% current meta build and some that are not listed in forum. Think my question is why use a mesmer to PvP then to use favored class now eg buffed class. It have nothing to do with seeing beyond the class and go with the flow and play buffed class. How balance is every class i wonder, the ability to fight toe to toe is just bad now.
Mesmer is support/utility class with CC. If you don’t like the playstyle don’t use it imo (I wouldn’t play a class I can’t enjoy).
They always were worth it for the utility and support, people just are too stupid to see beyond big numbers.
Like you said Mesmer is support/utility class. lol
Without the big numbers are they situation in certain dungeons. Thou they fair better somewhat.
Mystic, mesmers can be deadly in pvp. They’re not an easy class to master, so yes. It takes time and patience.
Was this soloq, tq, hotjoin, or duels? And what build were you using?
That depends Thief drop you dead in sec .Ranger can outrange you Dps you to death. Necro Face roll you. Just compare the stats on each class spec it to max possible combo you will see mesmer no longer a top choice for PvP. If mesmer win its mostly due to skill and not so much stats . There is no question only ranting. When you played every class you start to see how flawed mesmer can be. Not say it isn’t without strength,just saying its flaws are more then its strength. And just disappointed with favorite class. If you take stop watch to time how fast you can down someone you can see how flawed it is. Back to the drawing board.
After countless try and error found mesmer to be quite sub-par compare to other class.It is just terrible to play in PvP. Difficulty is extremely high. Dps rather low and armour paper thin. Maybe i m doing it wrong. Pve is still ok but in PvP it is really that hard to play.
Swd/dagger are very good at evading but dagger have limited range. Pet condition removal are good too but sacrifices your pet.
Trading trap slot for speed slot.
Your build is strong at kiting.
The first step is alway the hardest trying out new builds see if the build works for you.
