Hahahahahahaha.
I enjoyed it massively
I’ve never played a lw story or even finished the personal/HoT story so my opinion is probably invalid however…….I loved it and Im actually going back through all the story because of it. Thumbs up from a very confused wvw player.
Ps thanks for a normal fun jumping puzzle!!
Ps Ps thanks for making orr relevant again it’s always been a favourite of mine.
@FrizzFreston – neither does a ranged hammer, or shooting lasers out of your Greatsword, yet we have that anyway in GW2. Anet could come up with an offensive shield skill set if they wanted to.
An excellent point.
I’ve threw so many hammers and shot so many lasers I forgot that it’s not normal.
I’d love a dual shield haha that would be amazing, one defensive one offensive.
I play thief on wvw and do whatever I want, be it roam around or run with the zerg but I hang back and pounce on any squishies or people that stray too far. If I want to run in the fray, I play my revenant, but I don’t roam with it because it’s not the best suited for that role, my thief is. You can’t be upset that you’re trying to fill a role your class can’t do very well, then say that others should be penalized because they can. I want to raid with my rev, it’s my favorite class, but it simply isn’t up to par. Doesn’t mean the classes that are desired for raiding should have to suffer just be because they can do it better.
This guy gets it.
You wouldn’t use a screwdriver when you need a hammer.
I also say this as a medium main, get over it and pick a zerg class.
Can someone explain why this turret farm (?) was an issue?
Did they get rich?
Did it over saturate the market?
Did it cause grief?
100% honest no troll question, I play wvw so I’m not clued up on pve matters.
I get thief but druid..really? Have you seen how much healing one can put out? If the melee train melts it’s game over
That looks cool I might have to give it a go, looks great for finishing down people.
I’ve been trying to get a condi shortbow thing going but I’m not sure it’s working in zergs. Anyone else experimenting with choking gas?
I was actually about to make a topic on this glad I’m not the only one reverting back!
I forgot how good the strength line is and the loss of rage skills has rekindled my love for bulls charge….when it hits
If it’s your first character I wouldn’t recommend it.
Just experience the game first then when the alt fever kicks in you can enjoy it.
Having said that it’s hypocritical for me to say that because I’ve never completed a personal story or a living world update.
You won’t miss content by using it since you can go back and be scaled to the zone your in.
I wanted to do an engineer but they look like such a hard rotation and many options..
Actually in pve power engi is ridiculously simple.
Get a bomb kit press 1.
That’s actually the rotation.
I can only speak for Gandara but I love it here, good community and some good commanders and also the added bonus of getting whispered salty tears that refer to the server as Gankdara (even when out numbered). I feel that we lack small scale groups however and do not really focus on score but more on fights.
Downsides are it’s only active for big zerg play at prime time (weekends have a commander most of the time) and 0 night crew so against BB deso etc it can be frustrating.
I think gandara piken or deso are all good choices though.
My friends on FSP seem to get bored quickly as they have a massive player base and opposing servers tend to get tired of those numbers. Although alot of the “celebrity” roamers are on there so maybe that’s the place to be.
Either way hope to see you soon (friend or foe :p)
So they can’t hurt you, can’t cap anything and it’s a problem because………
Oh no it’s too hard to do something, please Anet make it easier just for me.
It’s not hard, it’s just boring and it’s making me not want to play. I did everything 3lse because it involved content that is enjoyed, but this… In any case, 8 can see it won’t be changed, I’m sorry for wasting everyone’s time here. I’ll go back to my hole and find something else to spend my time on.
What server are you on? If you were on gandara I’d be more than happy to show you round.
I’m sure people will be willing to help you get the Gob.
It’s far easier than you think to obtain just join a zerg and flip objectives put a booster on and before you no it you’ll have it.
I understand wvw isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but if you play it organised you might enjoy it. However it’s not like pve in that you learn a mechanic and auto attack, it takes a while to develop knowledge of classes and what to dodge and what to take and this can be frustrating.
Also is this reward track not available in eotm?
Also also imagine how every wvw player feels having to do pve stuff for 90% of our stuff (armor-weapons etc) so if we have to do it surely you can stomach 1 reward track
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Actually I’d class condi chrono or Dh noobs friendly but I’ll bite.
Your getting killed by a warrior pressing 2 buttons? (auto attack and endure pain? Like not even dodging?)
That’s pretty bad and I don’t feel any advice will help you beat a warrior.
Joking aside just remember you play the most mobile class and have evades for days, just proc their immune to damage skills and kite around then finish them off.
While the stances are awesome they have large cool downs and endure pain is only immune to physical damage so make sure to keep poison up.
Also dont let them f1 burst if possible as it procs adrenal health turning them into a regen bot.
I think if you play a warrior for a few weeks you’ll realise once a class leaves melee range they it’s all about chasing and slowly getting whittled down.
A thief who is aware of this is a nightmare for a warrior and can take them down.
Finally check out some thief videos on YouTube and see how they do it because it is definitely possible and good thief’s make it look easy.
I don’t think an ac has killed me. It has contributed to my death hundreds of times though.
When I defend against a blob it does almost nothing to them, I don’t get why they need nerfing.
For them to be even a threat you need like 4-5 of them and a stationary enemy without a shield. If your happy to stand in ac fire that’s Darwin telling you it’s time
People of wvw what can we do to get attention for our game mode?
Regardless of server/class I think we need to unite (cheese yes I no) and come up with a solution.
I litterally only have 3 options that I know won’t really make a dramatic difference but here they are and please add your own!!
1. Stop the money.
Don’t pay anything to anet. No expansions, no server transfers, no bunny ears nothing.
Pro: if the money stops maybe they will scratch their head.
Con: if the money stops then maybe they can’t do a thing.
2. Spend money…..what?
Let’s be real if anet makes money they will be more inclined to make priorities and actually assign a team to deal with us.
Pro: making wvw lucrative would warrant attention.
Con: no changes but empty pockets.
3. Stage a protest.
The least likely to work but atleast it could be a thorn in their side.
Be it only posting on the main discussion with all our lovely salt or not logging in for a period of time.
Pro: total annoyance might result in atleast a response.
Con: no one will care and we will not play for nothing.
I really think that if we all stop hating on each other (although that is the best bit of wvw) and focus our salt on a constructive method it can work.
Please don’t complain about balance or other servers this thread is entirely constructive ways to get noticed.
Basically let’s have a truce and try to get stuff done.
1vs1 a skilled thief will always win
However I still think due to volume Condi mesmer are the number 1 spot.
Condi reaper is very close as now they can put so much pressure on you and corrupt anything you give yourself.
Berserker warrior number 1? Really?
I wish I could play it as faceroll as you suggest, 2x endure pain and condi resistance are amazing but don’t last long enough to carry you against a competent player.
If my burst doesn’t hit and doesn’t proc adrenal health it’s not good.
If you kite me I die since I have a few gap closers but do all my work in melee.
Moral of the story don’t let warriors hit you and kite them to death
Eh, just play DH with Longbow and traps and you can literally roll your face across the keyboard and still win.
Anything with good long range pressure… so, basically Druid and DH. We don’t like not being able to kite away from your damage.
Good Scrappers have a pretty good matchup VS us I think.
Berserkers (if full melee) are… eh. Problem is you’re just so darn easy to kite and evade your key skills (Bursts, Shield Bash, HB, stuff like that). You pop Resistance? We just swap to SB and wait it out. You pop Endure Pain? Same deal, just kite it out and re-engage. If I kite you then you’re struggling to hit your Bursts which cripples your rejen even more. Yeah sure if you land a Burst then thats a pretty good chunk of my health gone… but good thieves won’t let you do that, lol. Idk, I always felt like Berserker was one of my easier matchups (unlesss you’re playing Condi, in which case, kitten you.)
Condi pretty much kills us. We have pretty lackluster cleanse considering most of us take Pulm instead of cleanse on dodge. Just put a few condis on us, wait for us to pop SoA/Shadowstep, or whatever, and then just save your real condi burst for after that. If they are using cleanse on evade, just…. don’t attack afterwards. I see very few people that actually do this: if you land your condi burst and then STOP attacking, there’s literally nothing I can do about it. I fought a Condi mesmer the other day who would just stow weapons every time he landed a burst on me and I melted pretty quick.
Tempest is dependant on how good the Tempest is I guess.
Thief mirror matches are kinda boring tbh. Just whoever lands the first Steal + SS usually wins unless someone kittens up. ALL about the opening. Land your steal, dodge theirs, Pulm any heal/stealth attempts, done.
Rev just isn’t a great matchup against Thief. Idk about condi because I don’t think I’ve ever fought a good one, lol.
If you play power Chrono then you’re basically just gonna lose unless you catch us totally off-guard and land the PERFECT burst. Power Chrono just isn’t great, particularly against Thief because we can reset and burst so much more often and reliably than you can. Condi is the way to go.
I mean in general? Interrupt 5-2 from D/P to leave us with no initiative, dodge the shot from SS and play through blinds, ALWAYS count the cd on Steal! It’s so so essential for us to land it that it can often decide the fight, so dodge it/invuln it, whatever, just make sure we don’t hit it. Count stealth as well, because the backstab nerf means we basically get one attempt to land it everytime we go Stealth so just count 2-3 seconds and then just hit dodge. Stow weapons when you’re not attacking (this goes for full melee builds in particular) instead of hitting AA into thin air because Pulm procs off interrupted AA as well. Make sure you hit your CC skills, bait out the stun breaks and then burst. Every time thief enters stealth, try to anticipate where he’s moving (this is actually easier to do than it sounds). Pressure the kitten out of him because Thieves hate being pressured, we don’t have the defenses to put up with it for long.
Don’t think there’s much else tbh.
Very helpful, thanks for your input.
Although we all no against a good thief it’s just prolonging the inevitable it’s still helpful to see inside of that ganky mind haha
For wvw/pvp it’s either gonna be amazing and broke or not burst which means it won’t get used.
Either way the forums will erupt.
If it’s good nerf it.
If it’s worse than D/p complain it’s useless.
People saying “don’t complain until you know”
The leaks were pretty extensive and we no how anet balance.
Also 10G it’s a condi weapon
Siege is pretty pointless as walls are so poorly designed it’s actually a death trap to man them.
Not to mention an ele with meteor shower can nuke most siege.
Imagine if they made it a support weapon to allow them to zerg I’d laugh my kitten off.
Either that or a condi weapon because anet no how much we love condi in wvw.
But in all fairness this is probably gonna be a op blaster and the final nail in the small scale scene for me.
I actually feel either way people are gonna be mad.
For wvw/pvp rifle has to beat d/p.
If it does it will be because it has huge burst potential.
Which as mentioned would be problematic.
If it doesn’t it won’t be used and the spec will just help d/p (see daredevil)
Having said that it could be condi which……..facepalm…… Can we just leave condi in the last expansion
Good advice I’m slowly switching to a revenant main and thief’s definitely think we are free bags. I mostly am aswell, I feel like we really lack the tools to deal with them.
Condi, condi and more condi is usually the way to go, with ranged obviously being easier than melee.
Seeing a thief burn to death while franticly teleporting all over the place is the best thing. Bonus points for downing them while they are stealthed. Dont just stomp them afterwards, stand there and slowly aa them to death. Jumping on the corpse or taking pauses to extend the suffering is optional.
I like to let them heal up to just a hair from full, then poke them gently. Or maybe walk away so they think I’m going to let them live, then shoot them once with a rifle. Anything to let them know they’re not welcome on my borderland…
The things you describe here really does do only the antispocial scum of this game’s playerbase… sorry to say that … especially the act of jumping around on the dead corpse or the downed enemy player, which just wants to get back into play, just shows what a kind of non social person these kinds of players are.
Sad thing is, they are oftenly then the first people which freak out, if other enemy players do exactly that on them too when they are downed on the dirt and try to whisper the people all kinds of insults…
A player which has honor and respect just kills off the downed enemy quick and without such childish drama around the act of defeating an other player in a competitive game mode. Especially when the situation is clearly to your favor and you know exactly that the enemy has 0 chance to come back from downed state at all, due to being outnumbered or being hit by surprise with a powerful burst.
That kind of antisocial attitude that people are showing in competitive game modes like described here in the quotes is it, which makes me always think that PvP and WvW would be way better and more joyful to play, if Anet woudl just remove this Downed State nonsense from there and turn it into Instant Defeat the moment you lost all your Health.
That would quicken the battles also by alot and make them more interesting.
Sadly there is still then no solution for bad morality of players and acting like small kids that need to grow up, but that change would be at least a good start to make PvP/WvW a little bit better in its social aspects.Its sometimes hard to be a good loser, but it is also alot easier to be a bad winner.
Something that some people should try to remember on more oftenly, when they play PvP/WvW.
90% of people who jump on my corpse etc are thief’s that have outnumbered me or waited for me to almost kill there friend then slip in for a low health backstab.
Therefor 90% of the people I return the favour to are thief’s.
As far as “honour” thief’s by class design lack it.
There sole purpose in pvp/wvw is to gank
I encourage anyone who kills a thief to enjoy it dance/laugh/jump till your hearts content
Recipe to kill a daredevil.
2x pew pew rangers
4x any other class
Wait for one to die
Then cleave the DD while he tries to stomp.
If shadowstep is up, leave for another 5 mins and await more players to arrive and die.
Add salt in the form of corpse jumping.
But seriously you aren’t going to win vs a good DD.
Dodges for days and can literally go from bay to briar in a few seconds.
Just gotta hope he’s found someone squishier then you for his YouTube no scope montage
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But that would involve them listening which they are strongly against.
That will be 500 gems please.
Or feel free to try our raid content we are forcing out for a population smaller than the wvw community.
Have a nice day.
How to fight reaper,
1. Begin fight.
2. Get full of condi.
3. Cleanse or die.
4. See step 2
Just accept its over.
They don’t have the staff or the drive to change it.
Pve, specifically raids are the main focus the most recent example;
Ghost thief out of control in wvw, anet response is everything is fine.
Ghost thief solos a raid boss. Anet response, well this is not acceptable nerf it.
Wvw is the red headed step child.
Make peace with it until an actual realm vs realm game comes out.
Also let’s see how long ot takes for this topic to be moved.
The last story even mocked us by saying “you’ll die if you touch the water” so I wouldn’t be too worried about the breather for the coming 25 years
As a dedicated underwater WvW roamer, having my breather be futureproof for any coming statcombos and/or balance changes would have been a massive boon, I already had to deal with no underwater in the guild arena, which was a complete spit in the face of the active underwater GvG community.
You sir have made me very happy haha
I personally will not be buying the expansion as I only wvw and refuse to pay for ascended vendors/rewards since the golden child pve has them pre expansion. Plus the ongoing issue of server lag (4 years + an expansion and still here really?) and still no purpose for scoring, like what’s the point of winning apart from winning?All combined with the lack of communication. It fills me with 0 hope.
The power creep is an issue but core classes will still have there place (vanilla zerg guard etc)
I also predict that the small scale roaming scene will be gone with even more power creep condi madness, perhaps we’ll get a 5 stat must have armor that rewards passive bunker condi more.
Not gonna lie the new thief spec looks like it’s going to be the final nail in the coffin for me. The last thing they need is an option to do damage and be slippery as hell from range.
I no its been mentioned a lot but is there any plans to introduce the following qol changes?
Forge all. Self explanatory.
Open all. An option for all the bags, boxes and boxes in boxes to be opened.
Also the salvage all Implement was amazing.
Revamp of minor/major sigils either let us salvage them into something, even just luck would be great….or just stop giving them to us. It’s 2017 who is using green minor sigils on gear or for profit? I get hundreds of these pointless things, the tp is overflowing with them, no buy orders at a vendor they are worthless.
I can’t take the clutter wars anymore.
My ocd inventory thanks you.
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Cool video but I think non support revenants are still free food for condi.
If I play condi I target revs, especially shiro revs because I no the struggle is real
I just don’t get the mount desire is it a fashion statement?
Speed surely can’t be a thing because waypoints….. plus the plethora of skills classes can use to move around.
I’d much rather the team potentially dedicated to this did other things.
I see anet as a company pushing boundaries of mmos not cloning it.
Also gliding is awesome.
Also also that was too positive for me….fix wvw rawr
Just don’t give condi armor toughness and vitality.
It should require more than one stat investment to get out some of this ridiculous damage.
The zerker meta was power precision ferocity so if the burst was negated or you didn’t dodge it was game over.
Also people say bring more cleanse but does that really help? I know on my necro/engi/mesmer I can apply stuff for fun very quickly. Hell even auto attacks give alot of pressure.
I mainly play power but even I admit when I play condi it’s for an easy night because I can have nice dmg while being an absolute tank.
I’m actually shocked to say this but I’m happy…..
My server got linked with underworld, they have some great fighters.
I don’t understand why fsp needs a link..
Ever.
What a good post.
I’m deffo an introvert I work for the NHS (hospital) and have a family, I’m social all day so my game time is my time for silence. Oddly I only play wvw which should require communication, I tend to follow zergs and ping the odd location or go from camp to camp with other introverts who don’t speak. The silence is bliss.
To reiterate a point.
Ghost thief ignored in wvw and actually buffed it.
Ghost thief in pve killed a raid boss, naughty thief I smack you with my nerf bat.
It’s difficult to feel like you have our interests at heart given that alot of the issues have been present from the beginning, the lag, the futility of walls as defence (meteor shower says hi), over stacked servers, servers who don’t fight but night cap, scoring, scoring, what does score grant you? etc etc.
Having said that…..I love the game and can see nothing coming close to what we have but would it kill you guys to check in on us more than once a month.
I think the wvw forum should be the only place to talk smack. Atleast if we could be salty on here and battle with our words it would have more variation than what we encouter in wvw.
Everyday small scale is condi bunker heaven.
Everyday large scale is “give me 30 seconds for this skill to activate” (seriously skill lag is still a thing after all these years come on man)
Although I suppose we should just appreciate someone in red commented on thier black sheep gamemode that odly has far greater potential, it’s a very peculiar business model.
You can play as a human male?
I kid but I find them repulsive pre pubescent boyband esq
Anet nerfed full gank comps so you take more dmg, but it’s worth it for those insta 360 no scope multi backstab montage videos.
Didn’t you get the memo?
I can’t stand this anymore, currently up against jade sea and deso who have groups of condi thieves roaming around…
I can’t do a single thing, cleanse the first, send the second back loaded up again. At least I can see what’kitten
ting me when it’s a d/p this is just hide in stealth……profit.
I don’t usually bad mouth ANET but do you guys even log into your own game?
It used to be the odd thief, I can deal with that I’m happy to just move on but teams of invisible enemy’s are crapping on the small scale stuff.
Where do I sign? I’d rather they removed them as a salvageable item since they are completely worthless.
Maybe just get salvaged runes on exotic stuff?
I’d love this item so much!!
If only they could sell me an outfit to “look like” another race ignoring all the personal story stuff, even if it’s only applicable in certain game modes.
I made too many full sized norns with gear and now want tiny little auras that make wvw seem faster
I came from druid to Herald because hammer damage is hilarious in comparison to rangers longbow. But maybe that isn’t your cup of tea?
New to rev and this is exactly why, great video!
So thoughts? Will you be taking hammer?
I’ve always loved hammer but in pve it’s meh and in wvw
The amount of boon spam just ruined it but maybe these buffs will finally be enough……maybe……Either way at least it’s something right?
I get that some people have success roaming and well done to you, for reals power to you guys.Trouble is (I don’t mean this to take away from how good you play) if you meet someone of half decent skill or even similar skill to yourself its instantly stacked against you.
Anyone pvp on a necro….ouch.
I honestly can’t even begin to suggest how to fix it though as our mechanic is flawed from the get go so i probably shouldn’t complain but…… THAT kittenING GREAT SWORD!!!sorry I just had such high hopes for it and it’s like watching paint dry waiting for it to hit only to miss because it has some of the biggest tells in game.
These posts resonate so much with me. I missed the HOT launch and only came back a few months ago, my only comment is “why anet….why”
Server linkings
Ridiculous balance
Insulting updates to give the illusion someone is behind the scenes “would you like siege cannons yes or no?”
“I’d rather you fixed the lag that’s been present since launch and did a balance that ended this bunker pirate ship meta (druids uninstall please) but erm I guess why not I’ll take a canon since the other option is the exact same just without a canon.”
I deffo got my money’s worth and had some real good times for that I’m very tthankful!!!
Forgot to add flesh wurm is op pls nerf
Pretty much sums up why i stopped playing necro and hate druids. But apparently attrition is awesome and we don’t need invuln blocks because we can soak up the back stabs and eviscerates like a sponge and power creep isn’t a thing….o wait.