So much elitist crap in this thread. Get over yourselves and enjoy the game.
This is a legit question considering everything that has been going on.
Been a good day of watching yak’s players far far inside our citadel attacking our golems… on more then one occasion.
Not sure what you want the rest of us to do about this… report the cheating idiots, like we do when we see people cheating.
Also been a good day watching yak’s and maguuma barely hit each other while our bl is full of enemies.
Coincidence how it was allowed to occur last match up and this match up? No. I don’t think so.
What is your problem anet? Any sort of alliance breaks your mechanisms for being outnumbered yet you allow it to occur over and over. What do you think will happen when every match follows the same sort of exploiting you are doing in the sbi, yak’s, maguuma matchup?
I think maybe you don’t understand the purpose of a wvw*VW* match instead of SBIvYB. Anet EXPECTS servers to sometimes work together… that’s what makes WvW and RvR interesting, and why pvp ultimately fails in every other game where it’s 1v1.
Most people in WvW ignored Living story because they didn’t like it.
Exactly. Season 1 was a Living Story type event for WvW, why not get Living Story style rewards? Don’t get me wrong, I’m going to WvW either way, I was just under the assumption that WvW’ers would finally be getting PvE rewards for what we do every day INSTEAD of PvE.
Sounds like a great April Fool’s Day event!!
Questions:
1.) How important is it to see your squad members as a different color and always visible on your map like party?
Would most definitely need another color, and maybe have an option for near, far, whole map for visibility?
2) I’ve always felt the best commander organization tool would be the ability to create events. Like drop a siege and the commander can set this is a build event then everyone gets Ui like build this flame ram 0/50 supply needed. Or Destroy this gate <show gate health bar>. Lets assume for this discussion there are no rewards to the events just a communication tool. Thoughts on commander created events?
It would have to be something super-intuitive and quick to drop. If it takes too long, it will be ignored and they will just type it out or say in TS.
3) A guild gating system would be clean but require all commanders to be in a fairly active guild is this a fair gating system?
So only large guilds would get it? No thank you, not interested. A guild that runs 10-20 on reset night but only 5-10 during the week would need to be able to get it as well, and I have no desire to run in a guild that queues a BL all by themselves just to get a guild commander tag for my leaders. Maybe scale the difficulty by the number of active members in the guild? And make it available only while in (and representing) the guild that they got it in… if they quit the guild, they lose it.
4) What did I miss on this list
What about guild commendations for wvw for the guild commander gating? Could be escorting/killing yaks, taking camps, towers, keeps, etc. One per night, or something similar to how guild commendations are done now, pick your objective carefully. Obviously an SM take would reward much more than killing a yak. On this note, you could also have the pve guild commander set up much the same… tie it to events in pve.
Necro, make sure Epidemic is on your hotbar, and traited for reduced cooldown. Throw down wells and marks as needed, hit epidemic on a target with lots of conditions every time it is up.
outmanned x5, but never gives up and still wins!!! unlike those traitor transfers!! FOR DEVONAS REST! THE HOME OF THE NINJAS!
Believe me, it was a hard, long thought out decision, but in the end the vote to transfer was unanimous, as was the vote for which server to transfer to. It sucks we had to leave DR, but it was definitely for the better. Sorry!
Are there tons of Gold ranks on servers that do not have a que on reset night? This guy is getting it done on the rank 24 server with limited help against overwhelming numbers. It’s a helluva achievement.
Rangers are difficult to play well. A good ranger is as good as any good mesmer or thief. If they play their class well, they are going to make a problem for whomever they are facing, be it 1v1, 5v5, or zerg v zerg. A ranger is not, however, a warrior, who can concentrate on only hitting 2 or 3 buttons and cc’ing and killing everything in sight. You need to know your whole repertoire and play it well.
Thieves and mesmers are a dime a dozen, but a good mesmer or a good thief can take on superior numbers regularly and come out with tons of loot bags… same with a good ranger.
Great defense in SBI BL last night you guys, it was hard to get anything done without either Maguum or SBI showing up to defend… friggin scouts everywhere! Had some great fights, and some great train wrecks, but all in all it was a fun reset, even if we didn’t get our silver doly finisher!
Sentries, yaks, and camps were probably my first 3 achieved after player kills. Try getting a group together and hitting smaller targets, rather than running with the zerg all the time. You might find you like it (and you’ll actually get to hit that yak before it dies).
You have to remember that some people just play to unwind after work or school… giving 100% attention to a game is not on their priority lists, nor their wives/husbands/kids.
Can’t wait for ez-mode nerf when they fix hammer stun. Maybe people will switch from the friggin cheese builds and actually play their class.
Commanders should never be suppressed in /m, /t, or /sq.
Commanders should be able to choose public, Guild Public, or Guild Private. Public is same as it is now, Guild Public is icon seen only by other commanders (to foster cooperation at the leadership level) and guildmates, and Guild Private is guildmates only.
Allow a Commander title through guild progression somehow (guild commendations donated by guildies?) as opposed to only by buying with 100g.
Allow for different color tags, and guild emblems as an optional tag for Guild Private and Guild Public, above. If an objective is claimed by the guild commander, guards for that objective get the guild tag of the commander, “Veteran Scout [SoCo]”.
Yeah, we ha a thief group going, everyone drops to log on other classes, all of a sudden we had a que :p Fun fights, though (even if I was sucking it up on my thief, was still fun!)!
tree tactics guys, it works. also.. may have just gotten very bored in SM tonight, BUT this made it much better.
All I see is one guy standing on the trail…
I mean throughout the season, I have seen almost nothing but blowouts in bronze and gold…
Is it just me, or is Silver League the only one to have close matches? FA trailing SBI by about 1k at the moment…
Less QQ, more pew pew.
We can normally always find SOMETHING to do as a duo, but in E Bay earlier today, the wife and I couldn’t find a single camp or tower that did not have at least 2 people guarding. Even your yak escorts outnumbered us half the time! Good job on defense, E Bay!
Good to see [VP] and [RegA] out and about!! Fun fights tonight!
Yeah, fighting for last place sure is interesting! Wooo!
Nobody fights FOR last place, you fight to stay OUT of it…
Why is Anet not enforcing their own CoC with regards to the obvious map match manipulation.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/
Rule 22:
“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”Why even have rule Anet if no one is going to enforce them?
This doesn’t apply to the 2v1 aspect of WvW. Quote from Mike Ferguson’s developers blog back in February 2012 describing the reason 3 servers would be included in the match, instead of a straight 1v1:
We knew right away that we wanted three teams fighting against one another on a series of huge maps in the Mists (our world vs. world battleground) and that each team would be composed of an entire server full of players. Including three forces in world vs. world acts as an excellent balancing factor, preventing one team from growing too powerful and ruining the competitive balance of the game. Two teams can gang up to counter a more dominant third team, a dynamic that simply isn’t possible with only two opposing factions.
So, to all SBI that are complaining that this is unfair, underhanded, poor sportsmanship, against the rules, or otherwise cheating: We are playing WvW exactly as designed, intended and desired by those who created it.
So, you saying Anet created this WvW for cheating and going against the rules? OMG, tell me it isn’t so, I am crushed. I love it when other servers bring up whining, when in fact you are just stating the facts as you see them. Get over this whining, cry baby kitten, a fact is a fact is a fact, PERIOD!!!!
Saw this post from Devon Carver :
Too often the 3rd place team drops off and has no effect on the game other than to stop the 2nd place team be competitive to the 1st place team.
This is an intriguing concept. The original idea behind WvW was that this would happen of its own accord, but I haven’t seen that in practice. I think it could be much more of a part of the game if there were a way to do this. Would it make more sense to provide increased score from this or to increase the individual rewards? I would lean slightly towards the latter. I also wonder if it would work to be really heavy handed about it and actually put the two losing servers on the same team. Of course, that presents numerous problems including score tracking at that juncture. But I would think we can find some sort of system that encourages servers to work together to defeat a bigger server.
Well kitten. Curse you Anet for putting ideas into peoples heads. I dunno, I think it is really an insult to a persons intelligence that Anet feels they have to plant suggestions into the minds of their players. I mean come on, there are some really smart people playing this game.
This wasn’t a suggestion, it is something that was fleshed out in another game… Dark Age of Camelot. It was 3 realms fighting each other, and double teaming happened all the time. I guess because it was more a part of the strategy then, it wasn’t QQ’ed as much as it is now. Still a viable strategy, and it happens all the time, just not to the extent it happened this week.
No, it happens to the server who’s winning a lot…
We happen to win a lot, so It happens to us a lot..
Obviously not enough
Looks like 2nd place is locked for us xD
Wooohooooo!
Looks like we made it! In a few hours the standings SHOULD be:
FA 30
YB 26
SBI 24
BP 20
Ebay 18
DB 16
CD 12
IOJ 8
NSP 8
Matchups are FA/SBI/DB, YB/BP/EB, and CD/IOJ/NSP. If SBI teams with DB, and makes FA get 3rd (unlikely… but we’ve seen it happen!), and YB fights off the same from EB/BP, could result in a first place tie! If SBI takes 1st, and YB succumbs to a EB/BP alliance, it could end up in a tie for 2nd, or SBI could outright steal 2nd back (if YB gets 3rd in their matchup)… not to mention the grudge match possible between CD/IOJ/NSP. Many interesting things can happen depending on how all of our matchups go… GL all!
So now it appears coverage is no longer king… this brings up some interesting thoughts… and hopefully matches in the future. Is it possible that Leagues actually did something constructive for the game? Can’t wait to see how all this is applied next week! GL on reset all.
Classes that kite me? I use a Rifle 90% of the time so that’s not really an issue.
If they kite me, I kite them back. Warriors aren’t that bad at fights of attrition that I need to chase them down.
Yep, just run the other way. Find a corner and hide behind it until they follow you… most people don’t want to give up the kill, so make them come to you.
As I play a condi necro as well, believe me when I say conditions don’t need a nerf… too many classes have condition clears. If you nerf conditions (like making toughness affect it), nobody will be condition spec anymore… variety is the spice of life.
Great fights this week all around; props to Ebay and SBI for continuing to fight us hard. Nothing has been very easy to take in EBBL or SBIBL the past few days… made for some fun fights. Keep it up! Enjoy your holidays, or lack thereof for you non-muricans.
I just can’t believe how much better than SBI, YB is.
Wow, really good stuff going on here! Keep it up YB and EB, you guys are showing these bandwagons where the door is.
Are you a professional cook, or do you just stir the pot on the interwebs?
Best week of fighting I’ve seen in months. Great job all around.
We have a guy, in plain sight, driving golems off of cliffs and building ballistas and catapults where they can’t be used for anything to drain supply. We had well over 50 players report the guy, and he’s still doing it. He will be the difference during the defense, and we will most likely lose Hills because of him. We have the entire map aware of the situation and there is nothing we can do but watch.
To the [Bags] Mesmer in SBI N of NE Tower that just embarrassed me 3v1, did you happen to Fraps that fight?
We have a long way to go before declaring ourselves a winner. Come back on Friday and see where we’re at.
Failing that, check here: http://mos.millenium.org/na/
Extremely disappointed in this thread. 3 pages, that’s it? I can’t be the only one to fuel rage.
That’s because there’s not much to say about this match. YB is spawncamping even though they have the match won. I haven’t seen IoJ hardly at all this entire match because of the omnipresent YB blobs on every map. All in all, a snoozefest.
we 4 person capped IOJ garrison and waited for 45min and no one came.
Grats on rank 523! You need more alts!
Good thing we’re blue!
You win!!! :p
Anet tried to take DB tower for NSP. I didnt see any siege but they gate is at 80%. I took the screen shot after i chased them off
Scouts, squires, and footmen — doesn’t look like Anet WvWs very much.
I don’t have any toons at 100 yet. I do have 4 over 50 (highest is necro at 89), and 4 more lower than that… maybe they just switch toons alot. You never know!
Awesome fights all around this weekend. Always fun to see NSP out there! Nice way to spend a good portion of my 3-day weekend.
Red is dead, imo. However, if they say something to you and you feel it is necessary to let them continue the duel, you can always just not stomp. The other guy can then rez up and they can fight again in 30 secs or so… Anyone that gives you a hard time for killing an enemy on a wvw map, remind them how to get to sPvP.
It’s your own personal choice, but if you do not want your duels ruined, stay off the kitten road and away from objectives.
STOP LOSING SO BAD! THIS MATCHUP IS HORSE RADISH!
You’re bad and you should feel bad!!!
Wth is a horse radish, I know what horseradish is. Probably a bit to spicy for you….
Oh yeah, U MAD BRO?!??!
I prefer Arby’s sauce to Horsey Sauce.
Couldn’t agree more!
Scrubs. Horsey Sauce is the sauce of pros.
This relationship just isn’t going to work. It’s not me, it’s you.
Is the hammer spam really necessary in a 3v1? Give a guy a chance!
STOP LOSING SO BAD! THIS MATCHUP IS HORSE RADISH!
You’re bad and you should feel bad!!!
Wth is a horse radish, I know what horseradish is. Probably a bit to spicy for you….
Oh yeah, U MAD BRO?!??!
I prefer Arby’s sauce to Horsey Sauce.
How will this help matches where there are overpopulated servers vs underpopulated servers? If the matchup is YB/BP/DR, will YB have 3 overflow maps and BP/DR still not able to fill the 4 main wvw maps, much less even ONE edge of the mists map? What good is overflow map #3 if there are no enemies?
How is this helping the #1 problem with wvw, population imbalance?
Why was so much effort put into this when commander tags are still broken, skill lag is a persistent problem, and the various other problems that have been around since game release that are killing the game and nothing is being done about?
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were you by chance an asuran thief that later tried to protect a yak by the se tower?. i do recall a [SoCo] tag as well lol.
Nope, wasn’t me; I have one but I rarely dust her off. Not sure who that was, but there are a few of us that like to play in the wee hours (Aussie, Alaskan, Japanese, etc.); I’m EST, but I’ve just been working the night shift, so I tend to get on for a few after work.
I would love to know who it is, and for the [Abys] Mesmer that keeps handing me my kitten pretty much every morning (this time +/- 2 hrs) this week to share their spec with me. If you could pass that on, it would be greatly appreciated. :p
Which map was it? this morning, if i recall looking at the roster correctly this morning there was only 2 of us that were mesmers in wvw, me and another. I was roaming around ioj’s borderland, but i doubt it was me as i think this is the only early time ive been on in wvw o.0
IOJ this morning, I blindsided you while you were on the bluff overlooking the road from se tower to ruins. It may have been another [Abys] mesmer throughout the week, I just assumed because of the time of day not that many were on. I am horrible at looking at portraits and recognizing people, in fact I’m kinda proud I even remembered the tag!
Mesmers seem to be my weakness. I can handle just about any class 1v1, but unless it’s a bad mesmer, invariably I am taking a dirt nap at the end of the fight. Usually it’s due to trying to acquire the correct target; this was not the case with you, I had you the whole time, just couldn’t kill you. If anyone has video of killing me 1v1 or 2v1, I would love to see the clips. Maybe I can learn something.
I would love to know who it is, and for the [Abys] Mesmer that keeps handing me my kitten pretty much every morning (this time +/- 2 hrs) this week to share their spec with me. If you could pass that on, it would be greatly appreciated. :p
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I’m pretty sure SBI will come in first in this league. We were able to put up a decent fight against FA for a bit, but holy crap you guys have a lot of people. It’s yet to be seen whether or not you can beat FA as far as their organization goes, but you definitely have the manpower to take them on. It should be a really interesting fight either way, I just hope we don’t get stuck in that matchup against you 2.
The problem with that is if SBI beats FA in the final week it will only tie for first. Granted this is assuming victory for all until the final matchup.
Wonder how Anet will handle that one.
My guess would be head to head winner would take the first prize. If they each took one win over each other, I would guess total points. What should really be the deciding factor is total enemies killed… take PvD completely out of the picture.
I wonder how a FA/SBI/YB matchup would go? I think it would be much closer than this week. What do you guys think?
Thank you for the few even number fights we had, was fun for awhile dodging the zerg, not so much fun after a while.
To the war attacking me at NN camp in ybbl to the side of the portal: I didn’t realize I was invuln until the wife told me, ran out so you could get me, but you were already too far. Sorry about that.