Guild Wars 2

There is NOTHING strong about gunflame. It kills people fast, but it will die way faster.

The best way to play gunflame atm is with Signet of Might, Berserker Stance, AND signet of fury. You CANNOT take anything else, you take Frenzy/EP over any of those utilities that I listed? Then you get block spammed and you won’t be able to access gunflame more often because ZERKER SPEC IS ADRENALINE HUNGRY.

You have to go STR ARMS ZERK for the 100% crit chance AND the signet mastery trait so you can get a lot of ferocity from Blood Reaction. YOU CANNOT use endure pain at all or you will get block spammed and you won’t be as effective as a signet of might gunflame.

The moment a Revenant catches you or you stunned once? You’re automatically dead.

TL;DR The OP is mad because he fails to land any hits vs. a Warrior, let alone knows how to fight against one.

P.S People who have no idea how to deal with Gunflame Warrior are bad. PERIOD. Warrior kills easy with gunflame, sure. But they get killed the EASIEST out of all the classes and they don’t spam evades while dealing damage, kthx.

Cogbyrn.7283:

Ritt.3069:

Unrelenting Assault:
-CC it during the 3/4s cast time (ez)

Which CC should the Reaper use that is ez to land in the 3/4s cast time?

You don’t need to CC the Rev? Reaper is also easy and effective, all you have to do is land the HYDROMANCY PROC (specially during glint where the Rev can’t cleanse the Chill) AFTER you bait out evades (which is already easy) and maybe land Plague Signet while they’re blocking assuming that you have any idea how to bait out cool downs. And if a Revenant burns energy on shiro dodge to cleanse the chills (which they have to because Reaper perma-chill is braindead op) then congrats you made them waste energy and they will have to go glint to refill that energy (Glint gets destroyed by condis).

You CANNOT be complaining about Rev when you are a Reaper, END OF STORY. If you are complaining about Revenant on Reaper then you either have no clue how to rotate OR you literally cannot land hydromancy (hell you even have passive chills, and the mark isn’t hard to land either) or plague signet to save your life.

Also, you don’t need to be 1v1ning Revenants in a team setting, you can get a Druid or Tempest to hold point vs. a Rev and then you GANK/plus that Rev.

Like I know Rev is braindead and effective as a class but so are other classes that isn’t a Thief and a Warrior you know?

Sunshine.5014:

hate.3195:

Sunshine.5014:

It finally catches on haha. I gave a hint that Warrior has a good build in the other thread, but people didn’t believe it. It’s just people didn’t want to share the build yet since they don’t want it to get nerfed before League.

You think you’re smart?
Everyone knows rifle build since day 1. Still sucks.

Not me haha. I don’t play Warrior at all lol. I just got a friend to show me how to play it a different way. The build is just a part of it. How to use it to kill people is a different story. I don’t think you got that part figured out since you said it sucks? xD

It’s not any secret, you could guess

STR ARMS ZERK (Most likely this one, signet of fury is like important on berserker and there’s a signet trait and 100% crit chance on burst in arms)

STR DISC ZERK

STR DEF ZERK

Utilities could be: EP/Signet of Fury, Berserker Stance, Possibly even Signet of Might probably even using rampage.

How is this sleeper op? You get block/evade spammed to death so you have to take Signet of Might, and you can’t really sustain without using Rampage. If you use headbutt for adren you’re pretty much screwed because landing headbutt is pointless in this meta on a gunflame build.

There is NOTHING sleeper op about this build, you take signet of might then you will lose out on EP or something along those lines

Kicker.8203:

This thread could also be called meta daredevil build.

They’re both bad actually against top comps. Dragonhunter destroys evade spam even though evade spam is braindead kittened already so yeah I’d say Thief is just as bad as Warrior atm though they’re realistically a handful better because of evade spam.

Thief needs numbers as buffs, Warrior needs evade-hate and baseline unblockables to be viable in this fail meta. This game is just so bad, I’m getting crushed so hard in DOTA and I still feel like it’s a better game LMAO.

The problem isn’t the traps, it’s more of the fact that the Virtues just make Guardian a mindless POS class that takes no skill. If the virtues get nerfed the traps would be kinda gutted but still balanced because easy to play shouldn’t be this effective. Like Guardian can defend itself so much before you can get close to it but if they weren’t so hard to hit in the first place then the traps would be fine. More CC and damage is better but GUARDIAN DEFENSES IS BRAINDEAD EASY NO MATTER HOW YOU BUILD IT.

Same goes for chrono herald scrapper tbh. DEFENSES NEED TO BE CUT DOWN.

Shemie.4286:

AWACS.6537:

Welcome to Guild Wars 2

Thank you, I’m enjoying my stay. How about you?

On the serious note; Why are incompetent people suffering so much?

Why are incompetent people suffering so much? ANET refuses to add real matchmaking, ANET refuses to add a REAL REPORT BUTTON, and let’s say I win my 2v1 where I kill 2 people and my team loses a 4v3, then those incompetent “losers” DESERVE BLAME because there is no RESIGN BUTTON and you’re inclined to rage at people like that.

Those 3 main things are the main reasons why.

Rodzynald.5897:

From what I see very frequently, warriors can endure enough to force their enemies to pop some of their defensive utilities and then go bat-kitten crazy with rampage on flat ground where nobody can escape nor hide or just pop 8 seconds of endure pain and zerker stance for condi immunity, this is enough to (if played well) wipe even whole teams that are depleted in cooldowns.

It’s all a matter of who you fight against, honestly.

Now this guy isn’t exactly wrong, this was a great way to play warrior, bait defenses during normal mode and then finish with rampage.

But guess what people can do while you’re baiting their defenses during “Normal mode?” They can literally run in a straight line and not press the dodge button and they will pretty much dodge all of your skills.

You had to figure out when people committed to something and then you still had to deal with vertical teleport and evade spam.

Yeah Warrior wasn’t hard to understand but it wasn’t hard to counter either, like seriously all you do is land your damage, sure. But at least it didn’t spam evades while attacking like Ranger, Ele, Guardian, Mesmer, and wasn’t unhealthy for the game in design. It had CLEAR COUNTERPLAY and it was THE MOST BALANCED CLASS IN THE GAME.

Look at what HoT has to offer now? EVERYTHING that is unhealthy in design where you deal with a dragonhunter, what’s the point of dodge button or you deal with a chronomancer where it’s like “what’s the point of counting dodges so I can land something important.”

Pathetic devs, pathetic game, pathetic community who thinks this meta is fun and fair.

Jasher.6580:

Druids don’t have blocks, evades, reflects or invulnerabilities. They need the blinds to be a bunker.

It’s called Balance.

Staff 3 is an evade, Sword 2 and 3 is an evade, GS 3 is an evade 4 is a block. Why do people talk if they’re just that kittened on what certain skills do?

Just stop please, it’s just so illiterate.

The amulet is not the problem, it’s always the CLASS. Ranger would be more balanced if it wasn’t an evade spam piece of garbage and it has controllable more rewarding pets.

It’s easy to understand and play Warrior sure. But it is ALSO easy to counter Warrior. So Warrior being “easy” is such a fail statement when the two former concepts cancel each other out.

ANET devs FAILS TO REALIZE THIS SO HARD.

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

Also, nothing is going to change even if they remove minstrel. They can just go back to clerics and they will be the same. Try again.

Hint: The problem is the class, not the amulet.

Because let’s face it, the same 8 year old can play it logic can apply to ANY ranger build because it’s just an easy class in PvP no matter what.

Caine.8204:

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

I bet if you focus him he won’t quite be so unkillable.

Signet of Stone, Protect me, evade spam, protection spam, weakness spam try again please.

Looks like Ranger mains need to L2P more than telling people to L2P vs. Rangers,

lighter.2708:

nicknamenick.2437:

Thunderbird.4298:

I don’t know about all this “under powered non viable” warrior stuff I keep hearing about. I love where warrior is mostly due to the fact that not a single other team will play one on a competitive level which by default makes me Crysis the best warrior NA. So I just wanted to say thank you anet for making me #1!

Such Ego.. i find some duel warriors to be much better then warriors playing in competitive level.

I also dislike everyone even saying they are #1 why would you even? remember that engie? Wahoo bye friends!! omg where is that guy? can someone hit him!? thanx :-)

Clearly he’s being sarcastic over the situation and being good at duel doesn’t make you better in 5v5

If you’ve seen Crysis play on ESL he always has a Guard or some form of support to back him up even against just 1 person. Like it’s not him carrying his team, it’s his team carrying him really. Kinda like how Tage carried ROM so hard in WTS 3.

This guy is literally one of the most fail Warriors that I’ve ever seen my life, he belongs to EU tbh cause EU is just so mechanically bad.

(I play on both)

Knighthonor.4061:

Like i said in other thread.

I believe Berserker was made limited like this due to somebody at ArenaNet telling the Warrior Elite Specialization Developers that they cant go away from the non-magic theme of Warrior, so with that limitation the closes they could give us were more physicals (rage skills) by a different name, and new burst skils.

we may not get cool elite specialization until this limitation is removed so developers can be more creative.

“Has to get away from a non-magic theme” is such a bad argument though. It just isn’t going to work.

The answer is probably because Nightmare called Warrior an easy mode class that should never get buffed on one of the ready ups. Ignorance and incompetence at it’s best.

Thunderbird.4298:

I don’t know about all this “under powered non viable” warrior stuff I keep hearing about. I love where warrior is mostly due to the fact that not a single other team will play one on a competitive level which by default makes me Crysis the best warrior NA. So I just wanted to say thank you anet for making me #1!

How does it feel being a replaceable loser then?

Cygnus.6903:

Berserker doesn’t need to be buffed, it needs to add something we lack. This is what every other Specialization has done for every other class.

That being said, warrior DMG right now is kittened IMO. Survivability is mediocre when you slot the ever so boring double Endure Pain. This has made warrior into a gank or be ganked class, and that playstyle tends to become boring very quickly (at least, to me). Still, the damage is kittened.

Chronomancer is able to spam evades even more. What’s different about that? Dragonhunter was given more things that ate through evades, what’s different? Elite specs are BUFFS.

It doesn’t matter what happens so long as they make each and every class relevant to the meta, it’s just that ANET devs are not creative at anything to be honest.

That being said, I wouldn’t hope for anything to happen and I think people should just leave this game.

Say I’m a druid and they have so much burst and they focus me? I just take Signet of Stone and Protect me and swap places with my team mate so we keep the point.

Ranger takes no skill no matter how you build it and this meta is bunker meta ATM. Prove me wrong. You will NEVER get a point back vs. a good team with a Druid because they introduced Druid/Minstrel.

Top play will be whoever gets the point and doesn’t lose it in the first place, like you lose the early fight? Just give up because lets buff tankiness and forgiving-ness.

Sharky.1470:

For me it’s not that the elite spec is weak, or bad or undertuned (you name it) anymore. Ok, it is what it is, but I find it very rude and insulting, yes this is the word – INSULTING, that in 5 pages and 200+ feedback replies not one answer from Anet was given. I guess they don’t have one funk to give to us warrior players.
3 years of continuos warrior play (ONLY warrior) might come to an end as I consider swaping proffesions. Brakes my heart as a love warrior so much.

Yes it’s definitely the devs. No one disagrees, these devs are incompetent to the death.

That game mode IS the game mode if ANET wants casual to be in the game. Courtyard is the equivalent of ARAM from LoL

Now if only courtyard was a separate que from stronghold/conquest.. oh wait ANET isn’t smart enough to do anything.

Jelzouki.4128:

The hidden OP class? That sounds like a really good way to fool stupid people into thinking necro is OP. Well played.

However, did you play necro pre June 23rd patch? Yeah there was too much cleansing going on, plus damage that kicked condi necro to the curb and power necro that was far from meta was the only option.

Fast forward to the cele signet necro, now necros have a viable build that can be beaten if played smartly, and is certainly not a super easy but medium tier’d difficulty build. Cele signet also has not ports, stealth, blocks, blinds etc so locking down a necro is a lot easier than say an ele, a guardian, a warrior….basically any class. The necromancer is a good 1v1 class, okay that is what it excels at if played correctly.

Fast forward to reaper. Reaper has more life force generation and is generally tanky than base necro because it has now become a melee orientated class. It seems as if a warrior merged with a necro. Why do you think warriors build for invulnerability? Because they can’t face tank everything if they are a squishy melee class. The same reason as to way guardians have access to lots of blocks and blinds and even one invuln. It’s the way the class was designed.

As for chill damage well, Reapers need to sacrifice one of their best sustain traits to take chill deals damage, so it becomes generally less tanky. In the last beta weekend chill damage was actually very weak, so they may have buffed it, but if all you’re going to say is “nerf PLZ nerf” without any numbers or feedback then you best not mention it in the first place because it won’t get you anywhere.

You must have been absent for the past 3 years if you think necro never receives any nerfs.

TLDR; necro/reaper is fine, l2p issue

Always the bronze elo idiots talking. All you listed were Necros flaws, you forgot to say that they are way too strong in duels.

Like DUELS MATTER IN THIS GAME stop being ignorant.

Sure they don’t have mobility and they get ganked easy if you have moa. But if your team doesn’t have moa against a good Necro? It’s impossible to do anything against it and that you will have to go through 40k-50k HP (not counting effective HP and condi cleanse).

OR you mirror that class and in turn it becomes an enforced meta. Kinda like how d/d ele enforced the previous meta.

Learn to rotate before talking please. You have no competitive play presence, I’ve never seen you in ESL, and you’re saying Necro isn’t OP in NA? Wow.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Clearly you haven’t met the Dragonhunter or Chronomancer (which is quite shocking because they’re everywhere).

Sorry druid outsustains dragonhunter and chrono. Try again.

Not only did they nerf Axe Warrior, they over-buffed other elites because fail idiots like Nightmare think “Warrior is so simple and easy to play and should be UP to be balanced” even though Ranger/Guard/Mes/Ele are ALL EASY TO PLAY and SIMPLE because of priviledged and overloaded kits.

Warrior HAS to be OP if they’re going to stick with this “simple mechanics” idea about it so that it can compete, and this is where the balance devs failed so hard. It’s just simple logic because overloaded kits are just THAT GOOD in this game. Just a bunch of “all diploma yet no talent kids” who balance this game. It’s pathetic.

Bearhugger.4326:

Well 5 days after expansion and they are already nerfing most other classes but didn’t touch berserker or tempest. Seems they agree with the OP: the problem is the power creep from most other elites, not the “underpowered” elites.

Berserker still cannot compete with those elites, you know why? Because those elites spam evades and reliable damage/healing/sustain.

When has Warrior ever done this garbage? IT NEVER HAS. Ok, you can argue stances and rampage together are broken back in the past, sure. But you were a bad player anyways if you couldn’t react to Warrior damage because their damage out-put was NEVER RELIABLE compared to other classes. These elites are an upgrade and even with the nerf on the OP elites isn’t going to change anything.

Warrior needs baseline fast hands AND warrior sprint at least so they can get actual runes and sigil combinations without getting kitten in conquest.

online.1278:

Warrior is fine.. totally fine.

it is just that other things like druid or dragon hunter is over-buffed and now, every people claim that. Thus they will be nerfed like dd cele ele later. For sure.
If nerf on those class would be conducted later, then everything will be fine.

Warrior specs, including berserker, is just all fine : not that great, or not that bad. Actually, with smashing brawler trait with perma stability on berserker trait line, they works great. They can spam primal burst with only 2.5sec cooldown without any interruption from petma stability. People just don’t know how to fully utilize berserker spec since it has been out for only few days but only compare this berserker spec to Rampage warrior that can be god-mode for 15sec and saying that new berserker spec sucks. They shouldn’t be compared though. Who can win rampage warrior without need to run away until that ends?

Anet did good job on balancing warrior. Just nerf some overbuffed stuffs such as Dragon hunter or druid will solve the balance problem.

You’re forgetting Herald, Scrapper, Chrono, Daredevil, Fresh Air Tempest, and Reaper. All of those are just better in every way because Daredevil for example is impossible to catch. Revenant/Herald? Same garbage AND they can hold point while spamming evades.

This game fails.

You’re not wrong at all. This isn’t L2P. Warrior atm is legit UP.

“Warrior such as simple profession it should stay UP” says Nightmare on that one ready up, just so pathetic.

Look at what DH does, they just spam attacks and bait dodges until you run out and eventually kill you because everything they do is just easy and reliable. Druid? HAHAHAHA all you do is spam 1, evade attacks, get carried by AI, weakness, protection and invulns and land your easy to land glyphz. That isn’t simple to play Nightmare?

You’re telling me Warrior is easy to play but not everything else that you designed? Are you that illiterate ANET devs? Like holy, it’s not even funny the logic is just incompetent. Just because you make a complex blueprint design for a class, that doesn’t mean Ranger or Guardian, for example, is harder to play than Warrior.

Because both those classes do one simple thing, spam defensive abilities while dealing RELIABLE damage. Warrior doesn’t have reliable damage, and their defensive abilities are at a longer CD, Warrior has had more counterplay and you had to know the game to beat that counterplay.

I really think this is their reasoning as to why they don’t wanna buff Warrior properly on HoT.

These devs are just so incomptent. The whole meta right now is just stacking tankiness and unblockables. It’s just not skill-based anymore, thanks ANET devs.

I want my refund, this game is so bad now. June 23 was almost a great patch but ANET devs never fail to amaze me with their failure.

It’s simple logic, they need to buff Berserker because everything else is braindead op. Balanced in this game (which is having clear counter play and fun and challenging) is non-existent.

Warrior was THE balanced class last meta (even though they tried to make it just as kittened as Ele instead of balancing EVERYTHING around it) but now ANET just failed so hard with this expansion it’s not even funny.

Nerf the braindead evades, buff their pets. BUT MAKE PETS TAKE SKILL so that ranger has to play 700 APM instead of clicking random buttons on gaming mouse.

This class takes absolutely no skill, braindead garbage.

Evade spam is THE MOST enraging thing ever. Please just give Warrior evade hate already so this game will be balanced.

Tempest is fine pretty much, even THAT is better than Berserker because it actually has nice cleave damage with F3 overload and reliable burst with scepter. AND you get your healing from water/arcana back from the F2 overload which is essentially a second heal.

I don’t understand what these pathetic devs were thinking when they made Berserker the most UP spec and kittening/gimping Warrior players off with this fail expansion.

Btw I would ignore people saying things such as Druid is a bad elite spec compared to Berserker or Ranger/Mesmer/Guardian/Ele always took skill more skill than Warrior.

Literally every time ranger/mesmer/guardian/ele was viable? It NEVER TOOK SKILL. All of those classes are just privileged and provided with such overloaded kits. Those classes are just as simple to play because of attacking while evading, yet fail devs like Nightmare fail to understand that, and in turn, probably affecting balancing for Berserker as well.

Like it’s so bad, holy hell literally EVERYTHING is braindead op compared to Warrior at this moment that Warrior has to have crazy kitten such as “evade hate” to be viable in this meta.

At least Warrior doesn’t spam evades or have reliable damage or AI or ANYTHING that goes through evades/block for that matter. Then there’s going to be kitten Ranger mains who will say otherwise even though Druid for example is like one of the best elite specs in the game right now because of point hold capability and ridiculous healing.

Like at least buff Berserker to Reaper level considering Necro and Warrior are kinda one in the same, low skill floor but high skill cap.

Right now? Everyone is a braindead low skill cap low skill floor Ranger main. Just spam evades and call it skill. Were back to the tank meta folks, evade/sustain/10millionIscrewedupbuttons and damage dealing tank meta that is.

Gutted. So much for “let’s balance Warrior by making it UP because it’s so simple to play” says Nightmare even though there’s Druid, Scrapper, Dragonhunter, Reaper, Chrono, Herald, which all you do is press an evade skill or spam your reliable damage or broken team healing and point holding ability on Druid’s case. They CANNOT balance around Berserker right now because it would take too much time, even though it is something that they should have done a long time ago. Warrior was THE most balanced class in the game on June 23rd even with the 20 second rampage, but this HoT patch is just so bad.

All elite specs has something simple to play even though some of their “blueprints” are so complex.

This meta is so bad I’ll call it “deal damage and never trade hits meta” because trading hits is so kitten complex for casuals right?

I don’t get why Berserker is C tier when they power creep EVERYTHING to S tier (including tempest) and leave Berserker behind. Berserker would be F tier at this point because Dragonhunter, Chrono, Herald are ALL DISGUSTING and spams evades while attacking.

These devs are worse than trash.

I bet they aren’t making Berserker up to par because trash like Nightmare and Karl Mclain thinks “Warrior takes no skill and should be UP to be balanced.”

Jokes on them because Warrior has THE MOST counter play in the game so depending on the meta, they actually take some effort even though they look easy to play. And I’m talking about this fail meta which is the attack and evade + bunker meta. Axe + GS became more balanced-ish after the patch and Berserker actually has nice condi-burst but they buffed other classes WAY HARDER even after that.

These devs are just so bad.

At least Reaper can’t eat through evades or spam blocks. Guardian takes no skill no matter how you build it anyways, and DH proves it.

Necro is kinda the same but at least they have way more counterplay than Guardian.

You act as if d/d Ele can’t do the same thing except tank 2 people at a time LOL

And don’t even use “squishy” as an excuse for d/d ele. You can take earth instead of fire and prove my point.

Fresh air is braindead garbage compared to anything Engi does when it’s on Grenades.

All you do on Fresh Air is bait dodges with Air 2 fire/air or counter pressure with dragon tooth. And Fresh Air can’t get reflected and has actual tracking. Just because something isn’t viable that doesn’t mean it takes skill.

Like even Mace Warrior takes more skill than Fresh Air. That’s how braindead Ele is as a class.

Engi.

The reason? Grenades. Why? Because Grenade skills can miss without your opponent pressing the dodge button. And because slick shoes isn’t viable anymore, you can’t say Engi is an easy mode class because that would be ignorant.

Yeah sure Flamethrower isn’t hard to play but at least it has 10 million counterplays compared to Ele, Mesmer, Guard, Ranger, in which those four classes just spam defensive mechanics and reliable damage.

Ele just spams evades while dealing damage, it takes no skill. Thief D/P is just as hard. Non-GS Zerker Warrior is hard as well.

TL;DR Pick Engi.

At least burn doesn’t use AI.

You can do damage without waiting for stability. Check.
You can tank a point as a glass cannon and escape when your stances run out. Check.
You don’t have team support but when YOU have team support it’s just as effective. Check.

To the guy who is saying Shoutbow > Axe + GS.

Guess what? Ele > Shoutbow. Guardian > Shoutbow in team fights. Axe + GS doesn’t need to fight against a braindead 1v1 focused spec who only focuses on solo que and not actually trying to be effective in conquest as a whole.

Seriously, that’s why you’re in a team right? Why in the world would anyone pick a d/d ele over a shoutbow? You’re competing with GUARDIAN and ELE on that build, which you can’t.

Axe + GS however can at least snowball team fights, has great damage, feeds off of team support, and isn’t THAT bad in duels (it should have at least a 40% chance to win vs. d/d ele which is BIG for a spec that’s supposed to be in team fights). Sure it will maybe lose against shoutbow but any good team comp will have Necro/Ele taking duels anyways, and guess what those classes can do? They can survive vs. mesmer thief burst and can hold a point better. Shoutbow doesn’t do anything against Mesmer Thief. So come back with a better argument, no one cares about someone with a 70% win ratio in solo que yet has no competitive play presence.

The question is, why would I pick Axe + GS over any Warrior build or ANY roamer atm when I can have burst and still be able to hold a point and crush team fights better than braindead 1v1 builds like shoutbow?

Warrior diversity is FUBAR’d, that’s the problem. Shoutbow will NEVER compete with Ele or Guardian. DPS Warrior actually can compete with everything however and the best one is Axe + GS cause ANET loves to enforce the meta.

While the match making is a little bit better atm, you know what is still a problem? The team with double ele will win and the team without a single decent d/d ele that can mirror the other one will lose.

You get into a full glass cannon comp? GG. What do you do when your comp has no point holder? You can’t out-play a d/d ele because it’s a class which needs to get ganked to be killed. And if a d/d ele is losing that 1v1 he can just reset.

This is why this game is failing. In League of Legends? If you had a glass cannon comp you can at least burst the tankiest champ in the game. In GW2? Why can’t we just stack bunkers right?

TL;DR why is a class that is good in duels good at escapes?

The pattern on what makes something braindead is, all you pay attention to is reliably baiting ONLY DODGES and finishing off the moment they have no more DODGE while you have so many ways to defend yourself. You don’t have to pay attention to 50% of the defense cool downs that is in the game.

This is why Ele Mesmer Ranger Guardian are all braindead classes because all they do is sustain while baiting dodges. It takes absolutely no skill. This is EXACTLY what Axe + GS does but it was balanced before cause of last stand AND shield stance being at a reasonable cool down. Mace/Hammer builds could compete with it cause you can duel an Axe + GS Warrior and still be able to put more to the table depending on your skill level. Now if you go Stunlock Warrior against an Axe + GSWarrior? He will get away with 1 spamming, spamming great sword evade for when it’s up, being impossible to catch instead of timing evis because of last stand and shield buff.

Pick sword over axe? You can’t duel as well. Pick Mace over Axe? What’s the point when you have to pay attention to both stun breaks and dodges when with Axe all you have to pay attention to is dodge? Not using shield? Why put yourself at a disadvantage.

Combine all of that with GS, which was already a meta enforced weapon, I wonder what reason there is to not take last stand and a shield with GS evade spam? Hmm… Oh there is none.

My concern is “the only thing ANET can do is dumb down instead of making things fun and interesting.” I don’t understand why ANET enforces the meta instead of making the meta diverse in a HEALTHY WAY. Like they buffed the easiest Warrior build instead of helping skull crack or non-GS builds get better, sigh.

TL;DR this change enforced the Warrior meta and I don’t like it.

P.S Yeah you could argue that Axe + GS duels other professions well, sure. But why is ANET enforcing the meta so hard and making it so only one build is good? Is Math and application so hard? If they can’t do anything innovative they can at least use numbers and casting times or adrenaline gain on Mace and Hammer for example.

Like seriously defending PU? It’s the same garbage as defending Turret Engi.

Just because it isn’t viable that doesn’t mean it’s healthy for the game. Why do people insist on “keeping diversity” when things just don’t take skill. Some builds just shouldn’t be viable for a healthy game.

What is so hard about forcing 1v2s on favorable match ups and making it a 4v3 advantage for your team if it’s “not a 1v1 game.”

Like for real? I can’t duel this guy so I have to ask for help, I wonder what’s happening to the other points when this guy is taking so long just to die in a 1v2 (If you can’t delay on PU mesmer then you are just bad at the game, sorry it’s THAT easy to hold a 1v2 on easy effective. Same garbage as d/d ele too) wow. It’s just so ignorant to say duels don’t matter.

It’s also so sad hearing this BS from Mesmer mains which are just fail priviledged player from the beginning anyways. Waste of time arguing with delusional people who think “this is a team game where 1v1s don’t matter” or “Mesmer is hard.”

All a PU Mesmer has to do is pay attention to dodges, and they can cast shatters while dodging.

I’m really surprised that these two facts are overlooked by these bad mesmer mains. I don’t even play Mesmer and Mesmer is braindead easy.

I wonder what Mesmer does on a hard class like grenade engi or non-long non-GS Warrior though. No offense either but most Mesmers kinda fail on Thief too.

If Fire tree isn’t working, just use Earth Tree and call it skill

The better question is why does easy effective exist in the first place? Oh right to “get casuals in the game.” Instead of making a game mode like ARAM that is for casuals.

P.S Get good PU mesmers and mesmer mains in general, your class never took skill to begin with

Like I don’t know why a Mesmer is talking about balance when it’s been an all time easy and effective class. But that’s okay lets dumb down all classes like 40 second last stand and 20 second shield stance and make them sink to ele ranger mesmer guard easy to play.

Controllable pets, delete the evade spam, make the pets reliable and stronger but take skill. I don’t think the game engine can handle anything crazy though. Or if it CAN handle crazy stuff, then ANET doesn’t even wanna make anything cool, they just want to dumb systems down.

Too bad ANET can’t do anything to make Ranger take real skill, it’s been braindead easy since launch it’s not even funny. Spirit Ranger, Beast Master, etc Ranger just can’t be respected.

It is the Xin Zhao (LoL reference) of GW2, he has to get nerfed if he becomes op because he’s so easy to play.

I don’t feel anything’s changed but Ranger’s design is so bad that they should still be UP because it’s not hard to play it. That’s if ANET wants to achieve actual balance which I don’t think they can because they can’t even rework pet mechanics and I don’t think their game engine can handle anything crazy.

Expect things to get worse though, even Warrior which was a very balanced class will be really broken once people understand how Last Stand and Shield buff made Axe + GS op and the only thing worth running.

You can’t trust ANET to get anything done.

Talking about PVP.

I hope berserker changes everything, atm it’s just disgusting. Warrior is reduced to a one spam class cause of the last stand buff and shield buff which indirectly buffed axe + GS. And what does axe + GS do again? It just baits dodges spamming auto attacks and flat out kills people who runs out of dodges and stun breaks. Boring playstyle yet they buff the boring easy effective build.

I don’t know why dumb down classes such as giving ele an evade on dagger main hand instead of making classes fun and challenging. ANET just did the pattern with spirit ranger and d/d ele into warrior again.

It’s just not fun to play this game anymore when things can’t be hard and op. They have to be easy and op.

I miss playing Mace, I miss playing builds without GS in it, but ANET is literally on the wrong with this change.

Like it’s a mix of bad balancing decisions and maybe the blueprinting system of this game is just so bad that you can’t develop things like “three weapon swap warrior” or ’controllable pet ranger."

I don’t think believe this game will change for the better with HoT that being said.

While burn guards take no skill they’re not as unhealthy for the game as d/d ele because at least they have no mobility (JI doesn’t count as real mobility, I’m talking about swiftness and non-target escapes).