[EMP] will be declining the GvG invitation from [RE]. The issue EMP has with RE is not in the matter of WvW tactics or strength, but with how the members of RE left EMP and the server. A GvG will only serve to escalate drama and tensions between the guilds.
As another post mentioned, EMP has nothing to gain from GvGing against RE.
And the guy from [BP], i don’t know who you are and what you have heard, but the EMP mentality isnt “boo hoo you left us”. If you have questions concerning what happened, please contact me in game personally.
Great fights last night and this morning guys. I dont visit the forums much myself anymore, but as for [EMP] members, I know alot of you (myself included) have a very negative view of certain guilds in DB (due to events that Selewyn has already explained), but please remember our forum policies before you post. I wont be monitoring much but i expect more professionalism.
…That would be what would say in my Official forum post. IN OTHER NEWS
For anyone that wants to know, raw is now inactive, been 2 weeks now. You guys be seeing me more for NA prime.
Christina Lee, are you taking over RE now and do you know why RAW quit/inactive/etc?
RE decisions have never really rested on the hands of one person, we do things collectively (didnt want to make the same mistake again & it was the only mistake we admit we do), but for point of contact, it might probably be best to contact either me or any of the guild officers, raw might be busy with work but he always come back like he usually does.
^ LOL “collectively” …so like that time, when the 3 of you decided to force that guild move to DB and said that everyone that chose here wasn’t loyal to [EMP] and that we were staying in a server that was supposedly dying?
Your neighborhood friendly Hyade of course Biffels, and there was nothing hypocritical in that entire post. There are 90+ people on db that think everything is just peachy, and about 5 emp on the forums trying to make this into the next Y2K.
Also, if you do not think Oxy’s account is misleading, then you have inaccurate info and should get it from someone who was actually there.
I was actually there for this whole thing and spent a better half of my weekend, when I could’ve been boozing excessively, to deal with this. And me, being a Officer of EMP, can attest to Oxy’s post and that it is accurate.
edit: Can mods close this thread please? I think the issue is being handled by the Jade Quarry community and Guilds and does not need to be discussed further on the GW2 Open Forums.
Nah, that’s not true. When I see an 80+ zergball, I know it’s an 80+ zergball. That screenshot does not show an 80+ zergball. Next time you play, just look around you. That’s an 80+ zergball.
I’m confused then, what is that you see there? I see a main force lead by noodles with 40 and a flank group of 30+, if you nudge one of those forces the other comes in to flank hard which in turn creates your “zergball” as you say. I would agree with you if they actually ran around doing various things apart from one another but the fact remains that they are running around connected at the hip, which in turn is producing a loot pinata for everyone on SoR.
I think you’re the only one confused. Again, I repeat. I know what an 80+ zergball is when I see one. If you do not know what an 80+ zergball is, please log in tonight and look around you.
I’m looking around me and all I see is a emp “zergball”, is that what your referring too?
Now you’re even more confused. The zergball I’m talking about is not red.
I’ll admit I am actually confused, so your trying to say SoR is running a zergball and not EMP, even though in the image posted its EMP that has the 70+zergball standing outside of garrison?
I think what you’re confused at is that you do not know what an 80+ zergball is. Seriously, let me give you the steps to figure out what an 80+ zergbal is.
1) Log into the game.
2) Click on the wvw icon.
3) Run to a commander pin.
4) Look around you and pay attention to what is not red.
5) There, that’s a zergball.
You have blown my mind, literally. We obviously have different opinions on what a “zergball” is. Go ahead and follow those steps yourself and see what you come up with, EMP’s zergball is currently on SoR BL.
I think so to because I have heard repeatedly from you guys that your group is only 25 max. You want to ask other servers who have faced SOR to see if that is true?
So BG, do you think the SOR zergball is 25 max? JQ, same question, is it 25 max?
Don’t get so heated, it is just a game at the end of the day. SoR has and does run zergballs, of that I was not arguing with. Those zergballs are formed for various reasons that could possibly be above your comprehension but I will attempt to explain as well as Jed did in last weeks post? Guild A. beats guild B, Guild B rally’s more forces to fight Guild A.. Guild A wipes and rallys more to fight the Guild B + friends and i’m hoping you can piece the rest of that puzzle together yourself. Fact remains TW is 20 strong every night, when EMP comes onto a map with 50+ guildies, of course we are gonna grab Tsym as a flank group or vice versa when we simply cant field that many numbers.
So we have a confirmation that TW is 20 strong every night right?
Thought it was common knowledge but 20-25 is the average every single night, kinda embarrassing when you wipe to so few huh
JQ WvW commander here from one of our biggest WvW guilds. Not to bust your bubble or anything, but if T8 faced T1 with our coverage at this time, you wouldnt last a day. I’m not trying to sound rude or pretentious. Its just our WvW coverage is massive in all three servers (minus SoR) and you will see practically no downtime around the clock. Being constantly hit in WvW will and does deteriorate a server and kills morale of guilds. People have probably heard of our stacked servers constantly fighting each other. Its true, and if you have any gaps in your coverage, we will take advantage of it to every extent possible. T1 is only a place to be in if you really like constant competitive WvW, non stop. For our servers to survive up there, we’re constantly in WvW.. You get no breaks up there. For those of you who enjoy WvW as is in other tiers, please stay there for your own sanity. kitten gets crazy. Just enjoy your server, tier, and most importanly, the game.
Have a good day and stay frosty.
This was refreshing. I see now the disparity between 1st place T1 and the people who are wining on T8.
You are confident, you are secure, you’re not ashamed of the power you put on the table, you lay it out clear, you have the numbers, and the coverage, and take great pride in that and you are sincere and respectful about it.
I am in awe, but I see why you are are indeed 1st place, when I see the words of the commanders like this. I have a new respect for you, and for JQ as a whole after reading this. This is truly what winning with grace is all about.
If the game got reset, and we were pit against each other as the numbers sorted out, I can say I would be a privileged to lose to you and yours, and hold no illusion we would have a chance
well at least he realizes hes only in tier 1 because they stacked the servers.
Having stacked servers is definitely one aspect of it, I’m not going to deny that. But having a very active WvW community on top of this and being competitive while enjoying what we do is also a huge factor
Great sportsmanship from EMP +1 to you guys. Love the comment from EMP on youtube too.
Can’t say great sportsmanship when you are trolling them on the forums. Pot meet kettle.
And to all the SoR out there you guys are a good server and I respect your guilds but this forum warriorship is just pitiful to watch. It’s a game and not many of you seem to realize that based on what I read on the forums in the past few days. CDS you guys beat EMP but that doesn’t mean you guys come to the forums and troll them over it. One person’s reaction or opinion is exactly that one person even if its their Guild leader or founder or what not. Anyone who knows Rawnoodle’s know that he gives everything 110% and he takes a lot more crap than anyone on this forum combined. He took crap for recruiting and when he first made ESOL and then went to EMP. He took crap for helping build JQ to what it is today. He took crap for recruiting for our server when we desperately needed it. Heck he gets trolled for fighting for his server and giving it his best effort because one group of people thinks they are so accomplished because they can take an dominate 1 out of 4 maps.
While Noodles and I may not always see eye to eye I respect the hell out of him because he’s stuck between a rock and hard place. No matter what he does he will be scrutinized by everyone and no matter what happens he will suck it up and keep showing up and helping JQ out on the field. So to anyone that has an issue with EMP might as well just start clumping all of JQ up with EMP because they are such a vital part of the community you can’t have JQ without EMP and vice versa.
The flaming/trolling is not because EMP lost, everyone can accept that they lost and if Raw, in the heat of the moment said something he shouldn’t have we can probably understand that too. People GvG to win. But after it was posted coming back and saying:
“This wasnt a GvG.
We have never worked with a guild so disrespectful. Not only didnt CDS give us the time to set up, the brought over 20+ people? to a 15v15.
No respect”
which you can find on the video comments is pretty much kitten. It was clearly shown in the video that there are 14 or 15 players. That is where the poor sportsmanship comes in. By saying ‘We’ in that comment he includes his guild. But one incident doesn’t make a person or a whole guild. So it’s probably best to just get on with it and killing each other in unorganized fighting instead.
Do you know what a GvG is? last time I checked, it didnt involve the green tags of every guild in SoR. But if thats what it takes to “win…” oh and reading the SoR map chat during that video is lulz and gives it even more context.
Go look through score histories,
Look at just Kaineng as an example.
They’re a tier 2 server and they steamrolled everything up to and including tier 3. And tier 1 is a whole other plateau above them.
If you’re pretending to think tier 8 would even be able to hold a single tower against Jade Quarry then you are the one who is trolling.
You fail to grasp what I am saying (Well not just you, by the several posts I have read, quite a few people missed the point like a crop duster flying into a house missed the landing strip)
What I am saying I do not fret over any match up, even one that would pit ET against JQ, especially if it would be better for the game overall. In fact I would welcome it, and find some good in it.
In the end, we have a problem with the tiers caused by Free Transfers, if fixing that means that a match up as lop sides as ET facing JQ happens, I do not fear that. And, I don’t get why anyone else would.
What’s the worst that will happen, you get a little slice of humble pie for one match up? You fear that, the truth is, you dearly need it.
JQ WvW commander here from one of our biggest WvW guilds. Not to bust your bubble or anything, but if T8 faced T1 with our coverage at this time, you wouldnt last a day. I’m not trying to sound rude or pretentious. Its just our WvW coverage is massive in all three servers (minus SoR) and you will see practically no downtime around the clock. Being constantly hit in WvW will and does deteriorate a server and kills morale of guilds. People have probably heard of our stacked servers constantly fighting each other. Its true, and if you have any gaps in your coverage, we will take advantage of it to every extent possible. T1 is only a place to be in if you really like constant competitive WvW, non stop. For our servers to survive up there, we’re constantly in WvW.. You get no breaks up there. For those of you who enjoy WvW as is in other tiers, please stay there for your own sanity. kitten gets crazy. Just enjoy your server, tier, and most importanly, the game.
Can’t get bags in the field so FEAR has to resort to breaking the unspoken truce zone that everyone has set aside for GvG? This is the one spot where people from each server can come and stand next to each other to watch a small skirmish and build some sort of community between each of the competitive servers. There’s a thing called honor that people live by, and you sir, do not have it. This is blatant disrespect to the community everyone has helped build. I hope you enjoy being roflstomped by JQ and BG.
I think it’s time we as a community show FEAR and by extension SOR that we do not take kindly to interference in GvG fights.
Friends, I call for a 72 hour red team lockout in T1.
bad form FEAR zerging a casual gvg with their full map 60 person zerg…..
south of south camp is pretty much a guarantee spot for gvg. and your FEAR scout told you it was 15 SF vs 15 Agg? so you could come and roll us with 60? lol so sad hahahaha you must have been bored to interrupt a gvg like that. pathetic.
1st off we only had about 15 and the rest were random. At most we had 25-30 total. Might have seemed like more due to how quickly you died. So I can forgive your blatant exaggeration.
2nd – FEAR was not invited to your little “casual” event so we felt slighted and acted accordingly. Next time it would behoove you to possibly send us an invite.
3rd – We were farming badges all evening (all week for that matter) and seeing that the map was rather quiet we went to where the badges could be found. It’s WvW my friend so complaining about being killed in any BL is rather pointless.
4th – yes we were bored. Thank you for providing us with a laugh before we logged for the night.
Toodles!
Can’t get bags in the field so FEAR has to resort to breaking the unspoken truce zone that everyone has set aside for GvG? This is the one spot where people from each server can come and stand next to each other to watch a small skirmish and build some sort of community between each of the competitive servers. There’s a thing called honor that people live by, and you sir, do not have it. This is blatant disrespect to the community everyone has helped build. I hope you enjoy being roflstomped by JQ and BG.
Only thing about Teir I really don’t like is being hit by a 60+ person Oceanic/SEA JQ PVDoor zerg you can’t do anything to stop, kinda takes the fun out of it. Surely its not fun for you guys just rolling everything with no threat apart from a group that is half or less than your number.
Ok lets make a deal, you stop attacking us with your massive zergs when we’re undermanned, (night time-early morning EST, and in the middle of the day EST) and we’ll quit rolling over your Oceanics when they actually have even numbers.
EDIT: It can be hard to see here, but to me it really looked like an even fight, sea of blackgates was just very spread out and got crushed. Beyond what appeared to me to look like an even fight, is the fact that these mostly Merc and ND people actually charged the FOO crew 3 or 4 times in the 3~ hours I played this morning. Which leads me to believe they actually thought they could win, so they must of had decently even numbers. But regardless of that, these people had more than enough numbers wise to hold onto a fully upgraded garrison on their own BL map for more than 15 minutes I would think. FOO and crew didnt even try, they just dropped rams and crushed these guys and flipped garrison in about 15 minutes. It would of been less but you’d be amazed how many Warriors SOB fields that run that banner to res the keep lord.
Is this showing the strat where you stack 60 people in one spot and just spam regen and cleansing and headbutt the door to death? Seen that numerous times from Waha and his band of merry men. Pro strats will always be pro
Pro strat or not, it works, otherwise we wouldnt be hearing the QQ from you. Don’t bash other guilds because your server is failing to fill that time slot in WvW. Waha and FOO are one of the best guilds out there. But if a server cant get people on, what else can they do? What did you think? That they were going to sit around a keep until some defenders showed up before trying to take it?
Its Tier 1 WvW mate. You’re gunna see kitten. Adapt or die.
Rofl. Been defending garry on JQ for a good 3 hours now in the lord room. So far neither BG or SoR has been able to take it. Nor have they touched each other.
Funny how they cant get anything done without a 2v1 xD
Be nice to see you guys touch each other now and again but hey, if you think we’re that big of a threat, its a compliment! And kinda sad for you guys…..
Keep it up!
Its the JQ borderland.. you should expect a 2v1. Surprises me that EMP GM is complaining about 2v1, I thought you guys were better then that!
You don’t understand. We have a drinking game going on here
I’m from T1 JQ and hopped down here to see what T2 forums were like. Didnt get to read everyones comments, but I’m glad T2 is doing so well for everyone! People seem actually nice here and the atmosphere of the forum is quite refreshing. Keep it up guys! T2 sounds like a wonderful place without the stress and the zerg of forum warriors who seem to have more coverage here than what we have on the field.
Best of luck to all of you this week. Stay frosty.
So me and some guildies were doing some group events when we saw that Jormag was up. All excited for a chance at loot, we ported to Frostgorge… only to be put in an overflow server. We were baffled. Why were we in an overflow in Frostgorge Sound?? and then it hit us.
Guesting.
We were kicked out of our own server’s event because people from another server decided to camp our event. I’m sorry I don’t have a solution to this problem but please Anet, do something about this. This is an issue as I want to be able to enjoy the game on my server and not be locked out of events because someone else from another server decided to troll.
I just find there to be something wrong when you start adjusting and rearranging your life for a video game, seems to me there are more important things in life. If not I guess im glad it makes you feel good about yourself you win a meaningless fight in a game no one will ever remember. ^^
Of course we play WvW because we like it. Its not like there’s any incentive or reward for winning wuvwuv each week. Don’t attack other peoples lifestyles. Especially when you know nothing about them.
Even last night while we were holding most of the JQ BL. If we had been 2v1ing, we wouldn’t have been forced to regularly and repeatedly leave the garrison we were defending from you, to stop SoS from taking hills/bay/southern towers from us. In fact, we had to sacrifice objectives due to this several times because we were getting hit by both of you simultaneously.
Can I complain that your two servers have some conspiracy together to make it hard on SoR? Not really, it is the way the game is played and the very nature of three way fights.
Just let it go.
Last night wasn’t Friday night last I checked. I’m talking about out-of-the-gate Friday night and our subsequent recovery, how we weren’t broken or demoralized and came back quite well from the punch in the nose, which appears to have broken the other servers will heading into the remainder of the weekend and on into the week.
Let’s not get silly here… it doesn’t take much these days to recover when you have superior coverage.
You guys based your entire existence in tier one by fighting for 2nd place and riding the coattails of the strongest server rather than seriously attacking them. You guys now have all the numbers that you could possibly need so it’s no longer necessary. But the sheer audacity of anyone from JQ mentioning a 2v1 against them is lulzy.
Lol please tell me more about the entire existence of T1 Jade Quarry. Didn’t know someone could be so informed their second week here.
Everyone here, I command you to join SOS. We are the “true kings of wvw.” SOR, your server has a lot of “bad players.” If you join us, we will teach you how to win #1 in wvw and be “good players.” JQ, we used to zerg you to death and now we cannot do that. If you join us, we will teach you the right way to zerg. We used to lead by 50k points by the end of the weekend through zerging and just go cruise control the rest of the week and still win the match by 20k. You guys can’t even get more than a 20k lead on the weekend. Your zerging sucks!!
Again, to any players out there. If you want to learn how to wvw, come to SOS, we will teach you how to play and be “true kings of wvw.” If you want to zerg, come to SOS, we will teach you how to zerg.
Don’t worry, you will not be called bandwagoners as long as you join one of our guilds like Votf, NeverDie, PTX, TRA, HLX, Tsym, Agg, DIE, and many more which all start off originally from SOS. With these native SOS guilds teaching you how to play, you will always be part of SOS and never be called a bandwagoner. We at SOS are proud of the fact that our native guilds earned us the #1 title in T1 and that we have not had help from any new guild transfers. We play to be in the “journey to become #1” and will never complain or make any excuses when we are not #1.
And with this comment oh Kings of WuvWuv, I give you the Score Update!
I will say this though SoS’s presence on EB seems scared to attack JQ. I am NOT playing the we are getting 2v1 card, I just wish SoS pressured JQ more so we could get them off our lawn.
Right from the reset SoR were all over SoS towers, and every time we took SM you were all over ogrewatch etc. What do you think we are going to do when you take SM?
T1 WvW is very broken and lopsided right now though and most of us are not playing it aside from scheduled nights with guilds as its pointless fighting uphill battles trying to keep PPT against a server with 4x your numbers, so JQ can enjoy the boredom & wins at the expense of fun, and when there are forces to fight expect to be rolled as usual.
Still very upset they stacked like that and took all the competitiveness out of t1 scoreboard game when it was obviously very very tight after their first 2 big guilds joined.
Facts:
2012 Week 47, SoS makes it to T1, Wins
Including this week, SoS wins 9 times in 12 weeks. Including 6 in a row.
JQ won 3 times of 12. Including 2 in a row.
Yep, JQ took the competitiveness out of T1, the sky is falling, we are all doomed, etc.
SoS won competitive games by 20k or less since that guild went to europe, and when they came back to JQ you may have won that game as it was down to 2k i think by the Friday? Yes thats competitive. Adding 20 guilds more to stack the server and make the games boring blowouts is not healthy to GW2 nor fun to anyone partaking in those games. So as i said, enjoy your boredom playing against doors. we will cyas for a few hours a night for our guild runs, but thats about it.
Your attitude of turning tail and running away whenever you are faced with a challenge is also not healthy for GW2 nor fun to anyone partaking in those games. I need my bags somehow.
Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across b
orders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ.
Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.
You do realize that some of SoS is that very HoD crew(and they fully admitted how stacked their server was and broke it up) and the SoR people consists of quite a few SBI and couple JQ guilds who also were there fighting the old HoD.
So in fact, it is you who has no idea what you are talking about. Except for the fact that you admit you have an overpopulated server. At least you are admitting it now.
Your words make no sense. I completely agree with Thor. Weekends are by no means representative of our server. The vast majority of people that were on the borderlands are pugs and the big “main” wvw servers were only able to field a fraction of their numbers. So yeah. If you think fighting JQ’s unorganized bandwagon pugs during the weekends is “Fair” and representative of our true strength, you’re gonna have a bad time. *Yeah we have coverage, but that’s a huge factor of being in Tier 1 – being able to stay competitive all week. People should’ve realized it by now and started working on strategies (such as shifts) instead of sitting in LA and complaining about it on the forums. We’ve had huge coverage issues before and have been through some rough times during the past 12 weeks against SoS but the reason we’ve stayed in T1 through the gaps is because we kept fighting through it all. *Through the culling, through the double team, through the coverage gaps. Jade Quarry doesn’t hang the towel just because we’re not 1st.
These do not reflect the attitude’s we want. Yes weekends are a struggle but it’s not because of the highlighted reasons. Do not try and say it is. Weekend’s we struggle getting numbers in but that’s not the fault of those in the maps. It’s simply a reality when people have more time on the weekends they will play more which also lengthens queues. How we do on the weekend is different than the weekdays for many reasons but do not ever claim it’s cause of “bandwagoners or disorganized pugs” because if we are losing in ppt its because of our OWN Lack of effort and organization not because of someone else.
Sorry i should clarify.I have nothing against pugs. I work with them a lot actually. I’m usually the person broadcasting to team chat what I hear on TS for everyone’s benefit. What I’m getting at is that these pugs running around unorganized (most of which are not on TS) a doesn’t represent the strength of our server from an organized guild point of view. My statement refers to the people that think the servers are evenly matched on the weekends are mistaken.yes there might be the same amount of people on at the same time but none of it is a clear indication off each servers strengths or weaknesses.
Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across b
orders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ.
Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.
You do realize that some of SoS is that very HoD crew(and they fully admitted how stacked their server was and broke it up) and the SoR people consists of quite a few SBI and couple JQ guilds who also were there fighting the old HoD.
So in fact, it is you who has no idea what you are talking about. Except for the fact that you admit you have an overpopulated server. At least you are admitting it now.
Your words make no sense. I completely agree with Thor. Weekends are by no means representative of our server. The vast majority of people that were on the borderlands are pugs and the big “main” wvw servers were only able to field a fraction of their numbers. So yeah. If you think fighting JQ’s unorganized bandwagon pugs during the weekends is “Fair” and representative of our true strength, you’re gonna have a bad time. Yeah we have coverage, but that’s a huge factor of being in Tier 1 – being able to stay competitive all week. People should’ve realized it by now and started working on strategies (such as shifts) instead of sitting in LA and complaining about it on the forums. We’ve had huge coverage issues before and have been through some rough times during the past 12 weeks against SoS but the reason we’ve stayed in T1 through the gaps is because we kept fighting through it all. Through the culling, through the double team, through the coverage gaps. Jade Quarry doesn’t hang the towel just because we’re not 1st.
There happen to be a few jQQ trolls whom find it necessary to thump their chests because they are going to win, with no doubt. I personally have never cared win or lose, it is how we all play the game that matters. So allowing trolls to hijack a thread, is part of gaming. The smart people will differentiate what is a solid post from a lack luster dud. As for server morale, I agree the militia on SoS seems demoralized. But is the responsibility of OUR stronger guilds to step up and help rally the troops. Not only did Patone, our EB specialist take a break, but also another commander has stepped away for a bit. Those 2 people alone were responsible for bringing in, and organizing the majority of non-affiliated players into WvW. Patone was a rock in EB. And the other would spend a good amount of time, traveling to PvE zones rallying troops. Also, the later did a TON of backroom organizing for our server. Both of these losses to our community, coupled with the aussie holiday and natural disaster are not just going to be overcome with a snap of the finger. It behooves us all to think that RL will not affect our game time. To make comments like SoS isn’t bringing it now that things are even is just plain garbage. That was only one example, but there are many more. All are just plain…lame.
SoS is a strong community. We will continue to play, and field strong guilds that understand the value of team work. Congrats to jQQ for fielding such a strong force for every time zone, and BG for taking what they can, playing smart, and getting income. Both servers are great servers, AS WELL AS MINE!!!
Respect. Best of luck to your server and hope that your server and guilds can hold out and stay strong. Sorry for the forum trolls.
I’m just gunna say this coming from JQ. Yes we recruited a lot. It was what made sense. And even the recruitment process took a lot of time and effort from our guild leaders talking with other server guilds trying to bring them in. It wasnt a simple and quick process. We worked hard for it, and these are the results.
Another thing, I can say for a fact being on WvW and reading almost all the chat that goes on, that we are not out to antagonize other servers. Yes we may have rivalries, but thats what happens in a competitive environment, but most of the time, we’re actually rushing around trying to counter a zerg or defend one of our towers. TBH I’m fairly disappointed at what has happened this week. Tonight we had a tick of 545 before I logged. We went through the BL’s, flipping everything with only about 15 guildies with little to no resistance from BG or SoS. I understand there has been some devastating events that happened in Australia and I’m very sorry for whats occurred to the families there. But just because a lot of the Oceanic guilds cant show doesnt mean that as a server, you should just give up. In fact you are doing a disservice to the members of those guilds affected. How do you think they’ll feel when they come back and see the state of their server? How they have seem to completely given up?
I mean no ill will against SoS or BG. I really don’t. Its been fun battling each week against you guys (and SBI). But just because something goes bad doesnt mean everyone should just drop and leave. Pick yourselves up and show a little spine. You’re a Tier 1 server. Its what we’ve been doing for all these months.
Just curious, but has there ever been a case of Anet reversing something they announced? December culling change was labeled as a trial. Almost all the posts I read said it was worse, but they pushed it on us anyways. I’m really struggling to see where Anet has listened to any feedback from WvW players and changed their plans.
We can only hope they start listening to their player base. I mean we all saw what happened to that one Star Wars game when they failed to listen to their community and kept making changes… what was the game called again?
Edit: Elaborating a little. GW2 is a community driven game. I don’t WvW because it gets me better loot, in fact loot is terribad, I dont WvW because theres some reward incentive to play (at least not yet), I WvW because I enjoy the competitiveness of it and repping my guild/server. What Anet is doing is basically stripping that away. If Anet continues to make drastic changes like this to their games (I’m talking about things like resets, not new content), and we as players let them do it without voicing our thoughts, soon, you’re going to have a discontent community and lack of trust between the developer and us. Being a F2p game that is driven by its players, Anet should PRIORITIZE the thoughts and ideas from the community, not ignore them. Otherwise, yes, people will start jumping ship.
Sorry Habib but this is the absolute WORST time for a server rating reset. Please hear me out.
Look at the predicted T1 to T3 right now. These will be the best matches we have for weeks.
Jade Quarry
Sanctum of Rall
Sea of Sorrows
Blackgate
Tarnished Coast
Fort Aspenwood
Kaineng
Maguuma
Dragonbrand
All 9 of these servers can wvw very well. Many people have waited WEEKS for epic battles like these.
At lower tiers, things are FINALLY settling in. We got weaker servers facing weaker servers. The matches won’t be lopsided anymore. May people have waited WEEKS for the matches to even out.
If you guys reset the rating right now, you would be placing some of these top 9 teams with weak server. These weaker server will be overrun “again”. What we would get is more outcry. More trash talking. None of these are positive for the game.
I strongly recommend that you guys reconsider this decision. Postpone this for a month and see how things go first. Thank you.
I completely agree with this. A lot of these servers have worked very hard to get to/stay in these positions. With the reset, we may get the same match ups next week, but with the glicko scores set to zero, the follow weeks will be a disaster on tiers. 6 months into the game, the servers are pretty much where they’re supposed to be in their respective tiers and even though many guilds switched, there isn’t an “imbalance” between the servers- the big WvW guilds have transferred to the upper tier WvW servers, further defining the tiers and where they should be, and leaving the lower tiers to smaller servers, which is how they liked it in the first place. This reset of scores will change all of that. Not only will it scramble servers in different tiers for the first few months, it undoes all the work and hours spent by the competitive WvW servers. A reset of the system should only occur if a NEW ranking system comes out. With the current state of the glicko, you’re going to see very competitive top WvW servers be pushed down to much lower tiers because their point scores are pretty much evenly matched and their volatility doesnt change much over the week while other T1-3 servers be pitted against non WvW servers and immediately jump to 1st place because they can score a 650+ tick.
TL;DR Resetting of WvW scores is a terrible idea and will be a compete disaster on the WvW tier match ups in the following weeks. Please rethink this Anet.
Until you pathetic EMP players decided to spam Golem in a Box in mass at us. Good indication of how bad your guild really is.
But thanks for the bags.
Someone has to start this every week. Thats cute though. Remind us how bad we are next time you’re locked out of your borderlands.
But really, do everyone a favor and keep your negative comments off the forums. It doesn’t do anyone good. You can trash talk all you want but all that really matters is the score at the end of the week.
Sos do you guys even think about clearing oil or canons before you golem rush? 3/4 of your golems were dead within seconds. Just an FYI you might want to rethink your strat on that or at least send in a small force capable of holding down their own without creating swords on the map first. I have been there before myself and had to learn from those epic failures.
Shhhhh! Don’t give them ideas!
but all in all, its been a good week. Proud of what JQ has done.
gg you went to a bottom tier server, facerolled over the 5 guys that were on WvW, overwhelmed the residents, and now are gloating on the forums and pulling the elitism card saying you are better than everyone else. I have lost a lot of respect for you guys. And I feel sorry for the original residents of Kaineng.
