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Well, You covered most stuff which for im thankfull.
Im only most afraid that as You said in later events im going to have tagging problem issues and be low on cash/loot…
Shatter aoe mechanic is great, also heard that persona trait makes you as Mesmer – player, 4th clone ? in which case you could just run into pack of mobs and shatter for aoe.
Im not sure, but does shatter have amount of mobs restriction ? like other aoe skills like 5th bow skill for ranger which can hit max probably 6 targets?
I have no problems with cash (Other than I have been blowing cash on cosmetic items and cool weapons hehehehe). You just need to know your build. Shatter can tag pretty well in large mobs and yes persona does make you a “4th clone” for shatter purposes. You can even use it without any clones which is really nice.
Plus knowing the market can help. Like right now you can sell charged lodestones on my server for 2 gold a pop.
To be honest with you, I am not sure when it comes to the 5 person cap for aoes and shatters. Never really paid attention to it. Usually I am sending 3 illusions in and then my shatter, so a lot of numbers tend to flash up lol. An educated guess would say yes the same rules apply for max number of people hit. But if you really stretch it you could potentially hit 20 targets because each clone, and your character, is a different aoe.
I don’t think I picked the Mesmer because it excelled at anything. I really picked it cuz I liked the style. I love playing a mind-fu— character and I think I would play it regardless of how crappy they make it.
Hahaha, I like that. You hit the nail on the head though, play with what you have fun playing. If you play the “best pvper class, flavor of the month” you know eventually enough people will whine and have things changed. So play with what you have fun with. Don’t let others make that decision for you.
I will try to cover all of what you asked here in short, in my opinion of course:
1) Ranger is better PvE hands down, especially early on, After level 40 it gets better for the Mesmer; I hold my own in fractals. It takes more work than a ranger, but it can be done
2) Ranger and Mesmer can both be effective in the right hands in PvP
3) Mesmer is considered to be one of the top PvP classes
4) Mesmer has some of the best escape skills, blink, teleport, staff 2, decoy, mirror image (I could go on)
5) “Move forward skills” is all about planning with a Mesmer, you can blink, portal if set right, focus speed buff, staff 2 if you turn around (I use runes of air to give me more speed buffs; I’ve also seen centaur runes used)
6)Mesmer’s are not that bad with spawn mechanic, unless you play phantasm build versus a shatter build, a shatter build can make a phantasm build spawn no phantasms essentially. I have been playing a shatter build and have not encountered any noticeable different except for iberserker requiring line of sight now. We are held to the same rules as everyone else now, so it doesn’t bother me
Long story short, Mesmers take more work to play than a Ranger, but Mesmers, in the right hands, can make people cry in PvP
I have a level 80 ranger friend who has claimed he was going to roll a Mesmer because I was killing things faster than him in Orr. However, just run through the posts in the Mesmer forum and you will see many people talk about tagging for credit problems Mesmers have in events due to lack of a good AoE. (You can use shatters as a good AoE though)
Hope this answers your question.
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All of the information on this topic is in this forum link: (Includes Dev’s response)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Mesmer-Damage-Nerf/first
I’d say go here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first
It is a glass cannon shatter build that even has videos. This build is amazing and what I use in WvWvW all the time. The videos also give a good idea on how to play.
He’s just trolling Angelus, ignore him.
If you are talking about the first pass on iberserker, it is a bug that they are working on.
Sorry if no one is responding, the question was answered a while back by AN here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/DC-in-fractals-no-way-to-get-back-in
hope that helps
Can some one just explain the staffs mechanics and how to use it? I’ve noticed that many builds use staff. I also use staff but I don’t know why. I know(think) that its main source of damage is skill 2 stacking condition and skill 3 is based off of conditions. How many clones vs warlocks should I have? Atm, I try to get 2 clones and a warlock when its an easy mob and try to get 3 warlocks when its a champ and many people are stacking conditions.
I guess your use of staff depends on your build. For shatter builds, what I use, the staff is mostly defensive in nature. Most of your damage will come from your primary weapons, in my case sword pistol. When I switch to staff, it is because my main weapons are on cooldown and the enemy is closing in.
With staff I will throw down chaos storm on myself to gain aegis and other boons when enemies try to get in close. Then I will use staff 2 inside chaos storm to get a free chaos armor which gives me boons when they hit me and creates a clone. Then when the chaos armor runs out I will use staff 4 to continue chaos armor. Usually it doesn’t get to this point because I will be able to switch back to my main weapons and do more damage because cooldowns are up.
Adding a food and sharpening stone/ oil section aswell in guide.
Cool was going to ask you to do that Osicat. Thanks for the great involvement in the community and the great tips!
Yeah my group had this happen a few times last night twice on the first fractal and once on the third right before the last boss. We want to advance, but not everyone has a perfect connection. I hope AN fixes this soon.
I will give them credit that the FotM is a lot of fun, but I had this happen to me last night. We got to the third fractal and got booted back to the character select screen. I wasn’t even dc’d for more than 30 seconds because it didn’t kick me all the way out of the game and we all had to leave and re-enter the FotM and start over. This is a really annoying feature at the moment for an online game where disconnects happen.
I agree with WillOfIron, shatter build you just need to jump around a lot and do a lot of damage. Osicat, see his forum post in the following link , https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first , runs a shatter build I use and explains it all. Also Amayasu, Parthis on the forums, runs a 20/20/0/0/30 build and uses full berserker.
Easiest fix would be to take the option away to rezz downed mesmer clone.
If it was easy, it wouldn’t be worth playing=) Glad you like the class Cactus!
I love Osicat’s build, huge advocate for it!
Here are my two cents also. When I was leveling, I found the GS and sword/pistol to be a good combo for early on. GS has a nice slow/damage in iBerserker and encourages you to kite with the damage increase w/ range on attack 1. Plus the knock-back is nice in emergencies. I switched to the staff once I got higher because it is a nice defensive aoe in staff 5 (getting aegis is awesome! plus doing staff 2 inside of chaos storm gives you staff 4 for free and a clone!) and staff 4 is also great for gaining boons when things hit you. Then sword is really good because the basic attack does nice consistent damage and removes boons on enemy and sword 2 gives you invulnerability with massive damage. (Saved my kitten more than once.) Pistol gives you a good multi-target controller ability and a high damage phantasm which is great!
My biggest problem early on was creating enough clones. It was very hard until I got dueling to 20 and got deceptive evasion. Once I could create clones quickly between that and mirror images, it got a lot easier.
Osicat’s build is a shatter build, which means you will be creating lots of clones and killing them to do lots of damage. It’s a balance of bouncing between close and far away while your cool-downs come back. Primary stats are power, precision and crit. I have a ranger friend who says he is considering making a mesmer just because I kill things faster than him in Orr. This class is not for the lazy I will admit that. You have to be constantly moving and anticipating. It takes a while to get used to, but it’s very rewarding in the end.
I don’t know what I would do if Mesmer became unplayable. It has been the only class I have felt a connection to. I have one of all the other classes, but I like the challenge of playing a Mesmer. Getting to level 40 was hard, but after that it was just pure fun. I love the dodging and rolling and constant movement involved with playing a shatter build glass cannon. It takes skill to play a mesmer and I think that is why we are up there in the top ranks of pvp, because only skilled players make it to level 80 as a mesmer. (or crafters hehehe)
I think what draws me to the class the most is the utility. So if they ever got rid of our utility, I would be a sad mesmer. I like being able to portal (the 30 second nerf brought a tear to my eye, but I will move on) and I like dazing, causing evasion, confusion reflect etc. It’s just fun knowing I am adding tons of counters to the enemy.
@Parthis
I notice you do a sword/sword build sometimes in pvp and seem to be able to take a beating. Is your gear different from Osicat’s berserker/valk gear? Also what swords do you use berserker/valk? And what sigils?
I will vouch for Osicat’s build. It’s pretty sick how much burst damage you can do. The things I had to get used to are: 1. You are glass in every definition so evade, staff 4, staff 5, blink, sword 2 etc to stay alive 2. Getting in close is the key, to effectively burst you need to be right next to them when you shatter to make use of the extra MW on your character and to have all of the illusions clumped up together. 3. Shatter as much as you can, it’s not like other build where you keep your clones alive, use that shatter like there is no tomorrow!
I played a ranged tanky build before so it took some retraining to get used to the frantic pace and being right in the middle of things, but it is crazy how much burst we do!
I would love a pistol main hand! Would be so cool!
Like the title says, I would like to see something simple to indicate the distance that Portal Entre can be cast from Portal Exeunt on the Mesmer. For instance if you were out of range of the Portal Exeunt the icon would go grey or something.
Yeah I would love a range indicator, something like it goes grey when you are out of range or something simple.
Ninja dodge attack explanation 2 clones out, wait until enemy attack, dodge into him and avoid incoming attack + generate clone, when still in air hit MW for a 4 clone shatter, swap to staff when you passed enemy and hit nr 2. This deliver a 4 clone shatter, avoid a incoming attack apply 3 sec of 4 confusion, juke you away from enemy , give vigour (atleast 1 shatter crit)+ with signet of regeneration on staff you will end the attack with full energy bar + 1 clone for keep attacking. Also you get might from shatters so your rehit will be buffed.
Great, thanks Osicat!
Also are your sigils up to date on the weapons in your build? I noticed in your guide you mentioned a signet of regeneration on the staff under the ninja dodge attack which I assume gives some sort of vigor. What sigil is it because I don’t see it on the wiki.
What armor, jewelry, runes do you use? I feel very squishy and go down in about 1-2 seconds a lot of times when I get focused by a elementalist so I wanted to see what I could do to improve my survival.
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Dumb question, what does nr 2 and nr 4 mean?
“I can’t even see that guy up there on the wall, how am I supposed to hit him?”
“This greatsword is worthless for seiging keeps!”
After burst stun pistol and get a shatter 1 + confusion to prevent actions.
Cool thanks Osicat and Easymodex! I had a question about the above quote. When you say do shatter 1+ confusion are you saying do shatter 1 and shatter 2 to get confusion from illusionary persona or create another clone and then use shatter 2 or am I missing it all together?
What are the defensive measures a mesmer has? I know staff 4, portal, blink, staff 5 then 2, but I want to know as many as possible.
I tried your build the last couple of days and noticed I have become very squishy compared to my last build, Taugrim’s Legion Build. It feels more like a traditional glass cannon now. This is why I want to get better at the defensive part.
It has taken some getting used to. I usually play farther back, but now i need to be right in their face. I was glad to see a larger fight this video, because on my server we have a lot of large fights.
Cool thanks guys=)
Hey Osicat, love the videos! Had a few questions, what foods, sharpening stones etc do you use? Also what armor do you use? (ie Berserker etc) How effective is staff / s-p when attacking and defending keeps or running around with large groups? Do you change out utility abilities when running in a large group?
Sorry to hijack the topic, but what is portal bombing?
Off the top of my head, any other build (and there are some) would require more explanation and you won’t see them casually referenced by a label.
Wow thanks! That’s exactly what I was looking for=)
When reading the forums, I tend to see “using the glamour build” or “using the shatter build” and I wonder to myself where are these commonly accepted builds?
What I notice with character optimizers, is that they have a certain set of “commonly accepted” builds that they all know and understand as being good and just refer to them in passing when talking about another build they developed that can do something crazy.
What I want to know is, where are these commonly accepted shatter, glamour, legion, etc. builds that everyone seems to know? If someone could link these builds to a ill-informed person (me) it would be greatly appreciated.
Since the implementation of the abilities on costumes and cosmetic outfits in GW2, I have been having more fun with them. It really gave new life to costumes and outfits.
At the moment I have not seen many people using mini pets at all. I was thinking if you gave the mini pets abilities like the costumes and allowed them to fight, it could do the same thing it did for costumes.
If you really wanted to, you could track the stats for the pets. Wins, losses, even create a tournament ground for them. The Tenanera’s Pit in Lion’s Arch would be perfect for this. There are even mini pets in there already. You could also make an sPvP area just for mini pets.
If you wanted to go even more extreme, you could have the pets evolve through stages. For instance maybe you have to get special food for them and if you feed them enough, maybe 2 weeks worth of feeding, they will grow or evolve to another stage. Maybe complete daily quests or something with them.
I just feel at the moment mini pets feel kind of old hat. They need something to liven them up a bit.
When playing my support oriented guardian in WvWvW I noticed that I don’t get as many bag drops as when I play a damage oriented class. I love supporting my team, but in some ways I feel support builds get punished for supporting their team and not doing as much damage.
I know in other games there have been kill assists given to support classes if they heal the guys who kill the target. I would love to see something like this implemented to show a measure of gratitude to those who choose to help their team stay alive rather than dish out huge amounts of damage.