Guild Wars 2

Ok I Did It.2854:

@shoebox, at the time of the OP which was 20 days ago, it was caused by the SAB camera glitch, it was well documented, and was being widely abused,

Just because SAB is gone, it doesn’t mean the glitch where the camera gets stuck in zoomed out mode goes away, it looks like from your screen shot that with the update to arrow carts, they have used the upgrade feature, turned there camera away from mountain to push the camera high into the sky, as the mountain is a blocking volume,

There are a number of issues with the arrow carts atm, on EBG you can fire the arrow cart into the dredge cave even though you have no line of sight, we got destroyed in that cave because a member of Mag’s was using it against us.

I am sorry the SaB bug can’t still be there… you can’t even get into the place.

Also I have sta at WC and if you put the AC on SW corner inner you can fire into the dredge tube with AC specialty 1.

Also no you can not go to that same spot zoom out and pan your camera any way I tried it before I even made this post. There was no possiable way to get that angle, I tried for 5 minutes non, unless they are using Zoom hack or glitch.

Also I posted it in this thread becuase unlike all the other forum goers I used the search function and this thread played 80% into what I wanted to say, so instead of duplicating and makign a repeat thread I made it on a exsiting thread as per ToS and CoC.

But please stop trying to defend these exploiters and hackers with, " It is the SaB bug" I have had that issue where I came out and I was zoomed WAY WAY out I logged out and back in, my camera was fixed and I couldn’t zoom that far again. So seeing as the SaB has been closed for at least 3 days now, and you can’t even get into the game it is not the SaB bug.

Ok I Did It.2854:

Its not a zoom hack, its a glitch from the SAB camera, when you leave the SAB your camera gets stuck in zoomed out mode, mesmers in WvW have also been using this to gain line of sight where they should not beable too, restarting the game client fixes the camera issue.

It is not a SaB glitch, as SaB is closed and we just had it happen to us

I enclosed a picture showing an arrow cart hitting our treb from a point they could not hae seen it. I am sorry but it is a hack. There was another case where SoR commander used it at Kolvan standing on the north wall with an arrow cart and some how seeing exactly where our superior AC was ( which was under the supply hut) he pin pointed things he had no way of knowing where they were. Please fix or starting perma banning this, since it greatly affects the out come of Wv3 and for people in T1 that is a big issue to be beating out of a tower or keep becuase of a camera Hack.

Kaaboose.3897:

If you don’t like the idea of the team “leeching” off your MF equipment you could just choose to not wear it.

Or

• you could run with your guild that doesn’t run MF
• or make a party through your friends list that don’t use MF
• Or just not wear it at all… I mean do dungeons at all

That seems like a pretty good solution, has worked for me thus far and I have no issues with MF in my groups, so why is MF even an issue for you?

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Another point I forgot to add to that then: You can’t hide the fact that you’re not level 80. If a group accepts a sub-80 then they do so with full knowledge of the fact that they’re not going to be as powerful as an 80.
MF users aren’t detectable and those so inclined (such as you, as you admitted) can lie about it if the group actually wants to be informed about it.
Yes, this would be solved by a MF buff icon, but that unfortunately leads to an inspection feature, which though it would solve that problem opens up many more.

I am a firm supporter of MF being removed, I have read all the post here and at this point Kaimick has a point

if you don’t want it join a guild that doesn’t use it
make a party of friends that don’t use it that is what I do.

his last comment just proved that people have no issue with a lower level but if it is MF now the world is comming apart. I don’t think that a Magic Find Buff will lead to inspect feature in the game, I think that is just an excuse not to support it and get the use of a MF buff that your not using. I do not support MF I hate it but I don’t support a group wide MF buff either. A group wide MF buff from one person just makes the non mf people leechers just like the MF people are now.

As stated before it is ok to leech off them but it is not ok for you to leech of you? It is ok to have a 35 leech in the party but not a MF leech? You want a party of non MF make one of people you know aren’t in MF. If your using the LFG site and complaining then your just be a QQ’er. If and when I use the LFG site I accept the fact that I may get a MF person in the group and as much as I hate it I deal with it. Cause when it really matters I make a group off my freinds list of people I knwo don’t use MF, or I go to my guild which doesn’t use MF gear.

They are adding it, many players have linked websites confirming this. Look at the wiki under upcomming changes t the right hand side

Or go into any exploer dungeon and complete it, I just completed it tonight in TA ( even though I never needed to daily was already done ).

Kaimick.5109:

You can always scout out the location of all the Bounties before hand, That is what my guild does with a max number of 28 and 13 active. Once we found them all we activate it, whom ever is buy the target ( single target is my suggestion ) post closest Way point in guild everyone flocks there. goes to bounty activates it and you have a downed bounty in less that 10 minutes of starting it.

Hope this helps.

This actualy is the best you can do with a smaller guild, I have even seen guilds do tempoary recuit to do Level 3. That seems to work pretty good, you cuold also try that.

xpucmo.2345:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Not entirely sure what you’re on about the Jumping Puzzles; they’re soloable.

Let me get this straight. You’re dissatisfied with the structure of a multiplayer game not catering specifically to solo players?

Please, read that again and explain the logic in it.

Don’t expect a game that’s build around the multiplayer aspect to have everything available to solo players. If that was the case, everyone would just solo everything, since it’s quicker than teaming up.

What I tryed to explain is that the dificulty level is much grater when you are doing anything solo in this game and its not really needed. The game have scalable dificulty – why punishing players for playing solo… And btw – don’t get me wrong – I really had to help a player level 80 in full necro dungeon gear to finish the Cove… He/She died (not get downed – died!) like two times in a row just in front of me. How smart that is? Its really punishing – like 2 ghostly gunners are in group so once you hit one of them the other one jumps on you. You do recall the mesmer duelist phantasm? Well the gunner is much stronger. Just a single voley will lower your health dramaticaly, and they are mele fighters as well. After you lit the torches a veteran appears. If you have the bad luck (as the necromancer in question) to have the guners respawn on you – you are dead! No, don’t try to convince me that you are not… You could go like 0/0/30/30/10 with a guardian just to prove me wrong… but whats the point? You are not doing your clases just to farm puzzles are you?

In a few words plain and simple – the game have issues with solo players as its too hard for them, and its just like a breeze when you have a party. Even one person on your party makes all the difference.

My problem is that there is no such person… I have noone to play with. Dont get me started on that – im serious player. Playing like 5-8 hours a day…

So you use the example of a bad player to justify your arugmen or counter point? I have soloed that Jumping puzzle of a glass canon thief not a bunker gaurdian.

I am not trolling you made a claim that stats that most players enjoy this, my self and kaimick simply do not agree with you, is dis-agreement is trolling then guilty we are. That doesn’t change the fact that you made a statement that claims people only play these games for loot gold and that is what is fun. I am simply asking you to back that up with some sort of prof. In fact I am in Fireheart rise as we speak and I just ask that map, along with Iron marches, Diessa Plateau, and frostgorge sound if the only reason they have fun and or play the game is for loot and gold. Out of the 20 some odd response I got per a map the main answer was
" Not really, I play just to enjoy my self, loot is nice but not something I play a game for. "

Some said

“Loot is all I care about, I want gold and more gold, if you have gold then everything else is easier in the game”

^ that spawned a in map argument in frostgorge sound.

I guess in the end if your claiming this is the status qou for MMO’s then I don’t think it is un-resonable to ask for some sort of fundamental prof, that is not opinion.

I mean if you were to say, loot is all I care about and the friends I play with, then I will have no issues. If you say that arena net needs to do something to the other maps to being more players to these maps then I can agree with you. Which you did say they needed to do something, and I do agree, although to say that is all players care about as if it is a fact when it is your personal like and others on this partuicular thread, doesn’t make up for the most/ majority of players.

but if in fact I am trolling please report me to the moderators, Trolling is against the CoC if I am then they will delete this post and infract me if not ban me for a day or so.

It wasn’t a contradiction, it is a simple statement that the game rules are not governed by the best players. Just like the games rules and mechanics are not governed by the worse players.

Apparently you failed to see that people ( including my self ), by people I mean the players I play with. Have no issues with the red circles when the outside factors are not present. I have on multiple occasions bombarded players in TPvP with a grenade barrage ( despite the red circles ) and nearly killed them, if not killed them when it was a 1v1. They were able to dodge, but in the end the 2 dodges didn’t help them. So that isn’t an issue for the players I have played with ( as I have never heard anyone complain about it ).

In world versus world if it is not a large scale battle the same holds as if I am in hotjoins or tournaments, although in a large scale battle there is an added factor to it.

So why is it that the best players in the world have no issues with it?

So why is it that I have played for 6 months and reached rank 73 (SPvP ) and probably 800 hours of tournaments have I never heard any of these complaints?

I mean if it is such a dis-advantage as you say it is wouldn’t more players be complaining?

If you removed the red circles can we remove dodge, I mean the use of dodge will be obsolete if you never knew the attack was coming so that would be a useless feature. Not to mention Boss AoE in dungeons would be really challenging and I am sure there would be a lot more wipes. Then again 5 people could hold off a 50 man zerg with a surprise ambush that would take minute if not more to locate the source, by that time they are dead. That sounds legit, personally I think from your statements that your on a very low ranked server for WvWvW, and your getting stomped into the ground. So instead of honing your skills like the top 6 servers in the world have done your just asking for something to be changed because you feel it needs to be.

I could be wrong that is just my assumption, I don’t really care what server your on or how good you are. Although I would love to see my questions answered.

SHM.7628:

Kaimick.5109:

SHM.7628:

Kaimick.5109:

SHM.7628:

Olba.5376:

SHM.7628:

Get over it. Getting good loot drops is a large part of the fun. If your theory is so accurate, then why is everyone clustering at chest events and 98% of the map is empty?

I am not playing the wrong way, I try to play all over the map. Furthermore, who are you to tell people that they are playing the wrong way? You have a lot of audacity.

Last but not least, This game is more fun where there are people present. Yes I am there for loot but I want to have fun too. Ever try to solo a Champion? Not gonna happen.

This is what I am talking about.

And my personal experience is that a lot of the fun stuff I’ve done has been about difficult battles, such as facing against a Champion with just one or two other people.

Also, the scene that you see in PvE is not representative of the playerbase. Not at all. There’s plenty of people who are doing dungeons, plenty of people who are in WvW and plenty of people who are in sPvP. Now I don’t know about you, but I am pretty sure that people don’t play sPvP for the rewards. Same for WvW.

“Fun” is subjective. For the hardcore its a super difficult of long time thing to complete. I won’t delve too far into what fun is. for most fun is tied to drops / rewards for completing events.

I am not going to argue with you, but please in the future refrian form using statements like

SHM.7628:

for most fun is tied to drops / rewards for completing events.

You don’t even know Most of the players that play this game, I am even willing to wager you don’t even know 1% of the people that play this game.

I’ve known plenty of players. Some hardcore run all the chests with all their toons. They run dungeons, etc. DR never affects them anyway. If you make 12g a day = it doesn’t impact you either.

I DO know what most players in this game think. I see it in their behavior. They are all clustered in 1%-2 % of the map and at chest yielding events.

actions speak louder than words Theirs are speaking volumes.

No you know what maybe 50 players on your server do, again that is not most. So in your opinion and in your experience you think what you said. My server is populated with people all over, not just one zone. Again you speak for your self and your Opinion not other players, let alone most players.

I’ve been on multiple servers. I’ve guested a lot as well. I am not imagining empty PVE maps. people are clustering for chests and loot.

I don’t know what to tell you if you think getting rare drops, loot, and gold is not fun = You are a minority on that. most people find that fun.

Can you please show me something that supports this, a pole or a survey or something that is more credible than your opinion, and your own personal likes?

From the looks of it you don’t grasp that you don’t even know most of the players on GW2, I mean unless you can show me actual evidence that your opinion is fact, otherwise your just trying to make your Opinion a fact to support your suggestion.

Dustfinger.9510:

Your rank has nothing to do with anything. Except…. Im happy for you? The advantages and disadvantages I laid out are plain and undisputable. Feel free not to discuss them. I wouldn’t either if I had previously taken a stance against undisputable facts. So, I and others do feel a need for change against these undisputable facts. That is the purpose of the thread. So, your hope is fulfilled, we are currently playing through it and our hope is that one day we won’t have to. So, we go on the suggestion forums and suggest that it get changed. All this sounds reasonable. shrug

Actually his rank has everything to do with his retort. What he is saying is some of the best players in the world don’t complain about it. Not that the game should go off of what the best players in the world can do.

But I play almost exclusively PvP ( Structured and tournaments ) and WvWvW and honestly this is the first time I have ever heard this complaint.

This is an un-disputable fact for you, not the whole of the player base. Others don’t have any issues with it, what kaimick has said is the fact that there are tons of affects going on in a large scale battle red circles are 90% of the time hidden and are not seen. therefore this should never be an issue. His counter argument for 1v1 also holds true.

Sorry to me it sounds as if your grasping for straws in trying to justify how red circles make for un-fair game play when from my experience no one has an issue with it besides ( like kaimick said ) the hand full of posters here. Also my experience is steamed from playing PvP and WvWvW and not hearing people complain about it. I would think if this was as serious as you are playing it out to be I would have heard at least one complaint about it ( not to mention a multitude ) with in the last 6 months.

I love this but I am sure Arena Net some where said that chronomancers will never bee seen in Guild wars 2, which makes me cry I love the concept and I hope your post here changes their mind.

Lupanic.6502:

I also hit and kill people with grenades on range. And Grenades are very powerful. And it is not the point if you hit with a grenade 8 of 10 times or not.

The point is, if you throw a grenade your opponent gets a big sign:

“Please move out of this area you will get damage in 3 sec. Thank you”

And I guess the game would be more fun if you do not get this sign.

For example you are inside of a keep. Outside are 20 people killing everything they see.
I will not be able to kill them all, but I will harm them or make it more difficult for them.

As a ranger, necro, engineer or ele you paint nice red cicles on the ground and never hit someone.

You can go and try to shoot at them but they will kill you as soon as they see you barrage, Ice spike or all the other skills never hit someone so you have to create a line of sight

This is incorrect, I play a Ele and a Necro and a engineer is Wv3, and all my Aoes hit zergs. I am not sure what issues your having but on Blackgate when facing SoR and JQ, they don’t zerg in 15 to 20 they zerg in 40 to 60+ and when you have 40 people through AoE’s and spells and skills it creates a fog of war effect, pretty soon the " Red painted circles disappear. This happens in reality also, WW2 storming the beaches of Normandy platoons of men have accounted that they were pinned down by nest fire. They had 6 nest pinning them down two to the front one further back and two to the right. The smoke the right and front and charge the nest, at the last second 3 of the 15 men realize there is a 7th nest to the left and the platoon is in danger, they call out for a halt assault but no one hears or reacts. 12 men are gun down in viscous horrid agony.
Point is here the one nest to the left was not hidden was out in the open plain as day, yet 12 men ( 15 at first ) never noticed it because of the Fog Of War affect.

The same goes for Wv3, get enough people there and enough going on and red circles blend in and are missed. In TPvP I have no issues using my grenades and killing people. it is harder but doesn’t make it impossible

Yeah the clicking target isn’t that reliable, and doesn’t always work, but I will say it is more reliable than tab targeting.

LOL sorry kaimick I have seem to supported you on a lot of your post but not this one, clicking to target is not the overall best answer.

Pukka.6389:

Kaimick.5109:

That may be but making repeat threads because of something you want doesn’t make that change happen. In fact it is against the ToS, if they change their minds it wont be because of the players it will be because of their own reasons. Again if the search function was used you would have known that.

Well first of all, I’m not creating new threads, I clearly did use the search function, and reply to an existing thread. I even stated that I have indeed seen the original response 6 months ago. However, this is the “suggestions” forum and I’m showing my support for a “suggestion.” If you have a problem with that, you can take it up with ArenaNet.

I am not trying to take anyone side here but Kaimick has a point, you did violate the ToS. Just because the thread is 6 months old doesn’t mean you have to make a new one. Commenting on the 6 month old thread in these forums will bump it back to the top. As the ToS and CoC state that showing support for an idea is best replied on a current thread rather than a new thread. If you truly wanted to show your support you would have bumped that thread up to the top from the grave.

I have read the GW2Guru post where a Arena Net Dev stated that there will be no race changes, that they have discussed many things about the future of the game but that is not, or will never be one. I wish I could find it for you but it was posted by CC Eva

I have done every jumping puzzle in the game, including the minor ones in dungeons ( Fractal Mad Asura ). There is no World Jumping puzzle that requires more than one person to do them… none.

The only one that requires 6 people in the Guild Mission Jumping puzzle, then again the key term there is GUILD.

I am in a small guild, about 28 members and 5 to 7 active ones at any given time. We are all pretty friendly and close, and didn’t know each other before the guild. Our guild has
- Art of war 5
- Economy 5
- Architecture 4
- Politics 4

Small guilds can have what the large guilds have, it just takes a little more time, and patients.

Lupanic.6502:

Kaimick.5109:

Lupanic.6502:

I know my suggestion is very class based. But anyway.

I dislike the red circles. I play an Engineer and use granates. I have a 1500 range which is great. But I never hit someone on this range.

I throw my granate and it takes 3sek until impact. But even if my opponent is not looking at me he knows the impact place.

It is hard to guess where I have to throw the granate on an constant moving target. But it does not make sense to guess and to try to throw the granate into the correct direction I will never hit because of the red circles on the ground warning every opponent.

Granates are really useful in close combat.

This was a good laugh, thank you

It is grenade(s) not Grante(s) and it is Sec not Sek.

I play an Grenade engineer and I have no issues with the red circles, I can hit my target 8 of 10 times. Sounds like you just need to invest more time into learning your character better than coming on wasting time asking for senseless suggestions like this

Sorry for my spelling.

But I do not belive you that you can hit a target 8 of 10 times. In sPvP/WvW the people pay attantion and it is so simple to move out of every red circle. It is impossible to hit a good player on range with grenades. I bet on a range of 1000 in 1on1 you hit 1 of 10 times a good player with grenades.

I also play a Grenade engineer, in PvP and Wv3, and not it is not that hard to hit. Sure one on One is a bit harder if your trying to do it at a long distance but closing that distance reduces the time they have to react, not to mention they have two dodges even if it was one on one sure they dodge two and then they can’t anymore. A good player can make a grenade attack hit 8 out 10 times.

In Wv3 there is a lot going on, it is easy to get confused in a zerg it is easy to get hit in a zerg. In fact In my opinion it is easier to get kills in Wv3 against zergs as a ranged AoE class since so much is going on it is hard to see what is going on.

I say the red circles are just fine, like another poster said your supposed to be a hero with awareness and reflexes, not some trained basic solider, fyi I am former military and went into specialized training, most normal soldiers have basic awareness on a battlefield.

As much as people mistaken the Chronomancer, and as much as the chronomancer is a great class and I would love to see it put into the game, it wont be.

I can not find the link or article or post that quotes this, but Arena Net Developer did say in an interview I believe that the chronomancer will not be used as a profession in Guild wars 2.

Jzl.8715:

@ Corey, I don’t really get your point of people quitting because they can’t keep up. People do quit because there aren’t anymore meaningful things to do, are you saying keeping up is reaching that point? Besides, this goes back to the age old debate regarding GW2 that was there right from the genesis, what is there to keep up with? It’s not like reaching exotic is hard to do, it’s not everyone’s every char is decked out in ascended accessories, it’s not like every group is demanding them in every dungeons and WvW teams. Do you even hear people talking about the actual stats on ascended all that much anymore?

If you think that people in 50+ are because they are still caring about loot, and they are grinding in 50+ for some sort of peculiar reason, then you have a misunderstanding with people on what you define as the speedy end of the spectrum. The move of capping at 50 has nearly none existent effect on people who don’t care about high level fractals. Anything around 20 or even the dailies now are capable of getting people their ascended items that are oh so precious to them. The only thing capping at 50 does is cutting the sole source of challenge for the most dedicated people who are simply looking for a challenge.

Actually yes I have seen plenty of people demanding ascended gear for dungeons or no invite, I have seen plenty of players requiring gear pings. I have even seen some guilds that require you to be in full exotics and full ascended ( with infusion ) to participate with the in WvW. Not saying it happens with every player and guild but it does happen.

There are people just like your friends that have quit in due part to not being able to catch up to higher level fractals due to time restraints. Does it happen a lot, not really sure but if it has happened once I am sure it has happen a few times. Right now the fractals system is balanced to allow time restraint players to attempt to come close to the ones that achieved level 50 2 months ago. Like others have said they will add more when the time is right, either you accept that or you don’t. I am sure it will be soon though.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Shoebox.1026:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

P.S. my your was intentional, just to see if you would pick up on it and insult it like any good troll would when they have lost an argument.

If you say so.

LOL this is your only retort, to a losing discussion and or argument. I am sure glad that at least my facts are straight, unlike You’re facts.

Wait before you post you’re response allow me to do it for you.

Shootsfoot.9276:

If you say so.

Man, I have never seen somebody in my life so desperate to hear they won an argument on the internet. I feel bad for you, so…

You’re right.

You won.

If you say so.

I do! :P

Meh if you say so, this is the word of the ignorant it must be right.

You know, I’ve read a bunch of posts of yours in other threads and being rude seems to be your M.O. to just about everybody.

You may want to take a break from the forums.

You seem to be a very angry young man.

Being rude and being informative are two different things, I just looked through his post, and I am not seeing anything wrong with what he post. Yes sometimes they can be harsh, but he is at least providing facts.

Also to add that Arena Net has stated on many different occasions and threads that the wiki, guildwars2guru, and the main guildwars2 sight are the go to sites for information about the game. So you sire are completely wrong in you’re statement.

Also i am not sure who everyone is in your book, but we will roll with it assuming you know everyone personally in the forums and the game.

>sigh<

Ok. I’m wrong. Since Jon Peters said in the chat during a BWE “We want to add support for in-word dueling” it means they are actively working on it.

You guys win.

I love internet forums. LOL

I am not going to argue with you I just have one question.

Why is the wiki not a reliable source of information, when Arena Net employees from Developers to moderators to just Arena Net tags have specifically said that it is?

I am just curious to see your response, this is not about being right or wrong, just would like your input, and facts that support your input.

Ok fair enough I see your point, but technically you’re main topic cited your friends therefore it was technically on topic.

As far as how you believe you should progress in accordance to your AR ratting is personal opinion. Although Arena Net has set up parameters for the AR system that deem you you take x amount of damage for x amount of ar at x level. Does it suck that you can’t go past 50 at this point yes, and I congratulate your on your level. But the rules of how AR works are set in stone and from what I can see are pretty fair.

I think like what kaimick said, they will release 50+ soon enough, along with more agony resist. From what I have done in research ( not the expert here ) but you can go beyond 50, just do all the odds and be really good at dodging the agony attacks from bosses. As far as jade maw goes till they come out with more AR 50+ jade maw just isn’t in the cards.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Kaimick.5109:

P.S. my your was intentional, just to see if you would pick up on it and insult it like any good troll would when they have lost an argument.

If you say so.

LOL this is your only retort, to a losing discussion and or argument. I am sure glad that at least my facts are straight, unlike You’re facts.

Wait before you post you’re response allow me to do it for you.

Shootsfoot.9276:

If you say so.

Man, I have never seen somebody in my life so desperate to hear they won an argument on the internet. I feel bad for you, so…

You’re right.

You won.

If you say so.

I do! :P

Meh if you say so, this is the word of the ignorant it must be right.

You know, I’ve read a bunch of posts of yours in other threads and being rude seems to be your M.O. to just about everybody.

You may want to take a break from the forums.

You seem to be a very angry young man.

Being rude and being informative are two different things, I just looked through his post, and I am not seeing anything wrong with what he post. Yes sometimes they can be harsh, but he is at least providing facts.

Also to add that Arena Net has stated on many different occasions and threads that the wiki, guildwars2guru, and the main guildwars2 sight are the go to sites for information about the game. So you sire are completely wrong in you’re statement.

Also i am not sure who everyone is in your book, but we will roll with it assuming you know everyone personally in the forums and the game.

Stop crying about stuff that is not broken.

cobrahorse.4329:

People are so ignorant. Do you think the person that made this thread want the mount for the speed buff?

Then he whould make a thread more like: More swiftness spells in the game

The people that want mounts want it mostly for the cosmetic thing.

And why is there a problem on adding this ?

yo go read the thread again genius he clearly wants a speed buff mount to go faster but i suppose ignorance is bliss eh?

This is by far the lamest idea you can come up with all the way points to fast travel why cant you see that, thats why there is no need for mounts you people need to stop posting about this redonk idea its going to get no where and as Kaimick stated creating a new fourm for a subject already up is not allowed so think about this

I feel the maps are just to small and and points aren’t far enough away and this just creates zerging and absolute domination over the map in an unnecessary way, therefore creating an unfair advantage in the way it plays out. Its like if one man is holding off two people and his buddy is on the way its impossible to even survive because the enemy has others no more than like twenty feet away it feels like then they all just group up and destroy everything creating an atmosphere that just isn’t even fun for the other team mainly in the 8v8 and its literally impossible to deal with and no way to even grasp the concept of fun, now i’m not complaining due to the fact that i don’t know my class or how to counter other its just hard to deal with overwhelming numbers sometimes so i feel if you spread things out a little farther like in the Battle of Niflhel the zerging problem would be a little easier to counter granted that map still gets it pretty bad as well i just hope youo can look into this and others speak out on this topic as well im just looking for a more even battle and enjoyable experience on the battle field not to get my face rolled by a ridiculous amount of people who snowball and just op everything in their path.