Guild Wars 2

Survivability in my case, i can’t have decent survivability with a power shater spec. Our mobility is low and no decent player is fooled by our illusions. I tend to pvp alone so a power spec is not the best for that.

Nobody is streaming because there are not enough ppl that would watch this kitten being played. What’s there to see ? unbalanced teams and classes ? Everyone playing turet engis and cele ele ? Spvp is boring when u play it and even more so when u watch it.

What do you guys think ? I for one have been playing gw2 on and off since head start and mostly do spvp and can’t think of any good reason of buying the expansion just for the spvp aspect which has been plagued by balance issues and flavor of the month builds since i can remember. Anyone can give me a good reason to buy the expansion just for this aspect of the game ?

welcome to gw2 i guess

You can lvl up in a lot of different ways in this game. Depends on what kind of activity you prefer. I suppose at start you will be leveling up with pve to get a hang of the game before trying pvp so just run around the map and the personal story will kind of guide you a bit in the right direction. You can also lvl up in the mist by doing pvp or in the battlegrounds which i wouldn’t recommend to a new player :P

You find many pets around the world to tame but just as a ranger class.

Dunno about which server is good now but i don’t think it matters much since you can switch servers and the server population is merged.

For classes i can only recomend picking one that has a mechanic you would enjoy. Anet is very unpredictable with class balancing so you shouldn’t pick something just because it’s strong atm cuz you might get screwed in a few months. So far every class has been at some point fotm so you just have to wait ur turn :P

Join a guild from the begining because you can take part in many guild missions which are fun to do if you have an active guild. People don’t care much about your lvl as long as your not doing a dungeon or something.

Dunno how active the player base is tbh but it’s a fun game for those who enjoy this style of mmo.
Hope i was helpful :P

Made my first pvp vid so i thought i would share it with the rest of the mesmer lovers out there Merry Christmas :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJmgGLsHxYQ&feature=em-upload_owner#action=share

After reading the mega server update i am left with the feeling that “mega server” is just a fancy way of telling players ur merging servers because population is low. Anyone else got the same impression ?

Justin ODell.9517:

We removed glory and match reward chests early to prevent a flood of PvE players from coming into PvP just to fill their wardrobe. While the our team would LOVE everyone playing PvP, some super smart economist peopleguys said it would have negative repercussions on the in-game economy or something.

It’s really unfortunate that we had to do this, but we explored other ways of handling it and nothing was really feasible except holding wardrobe back until the next feature pack (which also meant holding back lots of other PvP changes) or removing some of the PvP rewards for a month.

Edit: Tune in this Friday for news about the next phase of the new reward system.

those super smart economists didn’t think about leaving glory until the 14th of april and announcing the wardrobe changes on the same day glory is removed ? so people wouldn’t be bothered by the lack of rewards in spvp ?

I for one am tired of zerging because it’s just not fun. My skills don’t matter in a zerg. Who cares who used what when… just press 1 and wait for it to die. And my pc can’t handle massive zergs anyway so my experience of content has ended up in becoming many low rendered players hammering with their weapons in pajamas.

As a person who likes the pvp aspect of this mmo but also enjoy roaming the pve maps that i would really enjoy being able to fight with other players in all these cool locations. The maps are amazing and i don’t see why pvp players can’t enjoy fighting on them when clearly so much effort went into making them.
Maybe a server where guilds can fight over killing a dragon instead of working together would also be fun for some of us.
I am sure there are people playing that would love to fight just for the fun of it and not be constrained to the 4 wvw maps we have now. Not saying they aren’t nice or anything but why be constrained.
Anyway the question is if the the game can allow for such features as open world pvp and if it can would the devs consider opening such a server. I would definitely transfer to one, or at least guest quite often.

tbh i am surprised there still are dedicated spvp players playing. I just pop in for the daily, use the warrior so i don’t ragequit before finishing the 3 games needed and alt f4.

I have lots of lag problems since the last living story update, many times when i try to log in i can’t connect to the authorization server and now that i managed to get into the game when i open the trading post it says Error : invalid authorization

I am just curious how important lore is for players in gw2 because i see Anet focus alot on story and lore in this game. Maybe someone can make a survey, i don’t know how to make one. I for one like having a nice story in the game but usually i find it important in single player games and not so much in mmos.

TankinJankins.3276:

I bought GW2 on release, grinded to 80, and tried out the endgame. And while the levelling was fun, the game featured no endgame PvE, exotic gear that you have to grind for hours for tiny stat boosts, and a completely broken dungeon system. The PvP itself was so unbalanced as to not be any fun, along with no gear to be earned in structured PvP whatsoever. Have they added ANYTHING worth hitting level 80 in the year and a half?

I don’t find it fun it’s just that there’s no better mmo out atm that i can play. I would play ESO but sub and item shop + limited edition class kind of ruined it for me. If there was any other new MMo out there gw2 wouldn’t even be on my hard drive anymore.

i used to mind having to fight unbalanced classes until i realized it’s just not worth it. Just keep a spot in ur account for the FOTM class and roll that and play it because it’s not worth playing what you like when you get ur kitten kicked by someone who has no clue what he is doing but his class can carry his noskill kitten to victory. I enjoyed playing a mesmer but now hambow is the only class i step into spvp with because in the end i want to win and i don’t want to bring my team down with my underpowered class. When the meta changes i will use the next FOTM and in the end everyone will do the same. I am already seeing most games i play have only hambow wars necros and engies. Anything else is a waste of space in the team and can only lower the chance of wining.

Good ideea and all but i think Anet was hoping to squeeze a few more playing players with those glory boosters. Sadly the fact that they will get deleted isn’t enough to make many people endure the agony of playing spvp in the state it is now just so they can get a few glory points more.

With the way the balancing team does their job this suggestion might be the most sold item in the item shop. Every month everyone needs to buy one in order to stay in the meta.

I’m sorry i never played WoW but how long did a season last ? Flavor of the Month is not the same with different flavor every 6 months. Also i don’t really see what is the reason for pointing out bad balance in other games.
GW2 community has been more than helpful in pointing out what needs to be changed in order to improve the game balance but not once have the devs listened. Such a helpful and passionate community i have yet to see in any mmo, but it’s being ignored. There are so many good suggestions on the forums from smart players that understand the mechanics of the game that if even half of them would be implemented the pvp aspect would be improved by a lot.
PS: seeing a dev at min 11 talking about how an ele takes 2 one handed weapons instead of a two handed weapon because of the on swap effect, Elementalist…. the only class that can’t swap weapons…. Gz

Locuz.2651:

Soul.5947:

This is the only game that has a flavor of the month class.

I guess you havent played a lot of MMOs.

No, not the bad kind; this is my first with fotm and if i wanted to play garbage i would have picked some chinese mmo not pay for gw2. Not saying that the pve is garbage, just the pvp part of the game, for pve the game is quite good.

So after watching the devs talk about the game my only conclusion is that the game has been full of bugs and unbalance so far and i doubt they will be dealt with anytime soon or that they can even handle the amount of bugs in the game.
Every few sentences i see one of the devs saying something about sigils being unbalanced or stats being unbalanced or runes being unbalanced. This is more then 1 year into the game. Seriously wtf have you been doing. You have designed a game that is full of unbalanced things and bugs.
Having to rework stats 1 year into the game says quite allot about your game design and professionalism. So it took you guys 1 year to come to the conclusion that berserker stats where by 50 % better then all the other stats ? This is just embarrassing. Having to balance everything every month with nothing new coming into the game tells me a lot about how efficient you are at balancing. No skills have been added except recently with the healing skills, and no runes or sigils have been added and yet you have to balance the game every month and it’s not like small balance changes either. You have to rework everything every kitten month. Is this game in close beta or wtf am i playing here. Can i have a little bit of consistency ? This is the only game that has a flavor of the month class. In every game i have played so far i was looking forward to patches coming out but i find myself dreading the patch day in this one hoping for no more nerfs or bugs.

I don’t enjoy playing this build and i see it being op at what it does but for those who like to be bunkers in spvp this build will make your team think again before choosing a guardian instead of mesmer

The PR Build

The purpose of this build is to enable you to hold points in spvp until help arrives.
Most people think that healing sig is the most powerful heal in the game right now but they are dead wrong. Using some traits our Mantra of Recovery can provide almost 12k heal every 10 seconds. Healing sig is a 400h/sec while we are at more then 1000/sec.
This alone is enough to make most classes cringe when thinking of taking you on but let’s not stop there. Add 6 conditions removed to that and now we are almost immune to condition damage also, not that the heal by it’s self wouldn’t have been enough to keep you alive.
But wait, there’s more. Let’s bring out our dear friend the Phantasmal Defender to the equation.
This little Phantasm will not only soak up half the damage you will take but will also provide you with constant regeneration and protection will pop up for 3 seconds every 15 seconds as a nice little bonus to your already godlike survivability, all you need is to run past him once in a while.
Add to all this scepter block + offhand sw block + staff chaos storm and chaos armor.
On swap energy sigils are also fun to use for those moments when you feel like using a dodge or two, even though they won’t be necessary.
The only weakness this build has is having your mantra cast interrupted but we have a solution for that also. Mantra of Concentration is our friend with her 3 charges of 2 second stability buff, just enough time to get our heal casted without any pesky problems. One cast of MoC will have you ready for the next 3 heal casts. Just pop a Power Break in before starting to chant your Mantra of Recovery and you are good to go.
The only way you can die using this build is if your team has gone to sleep and is never going to come help you on point.
Why i don’t like this build you may ask … because you can’t kill anything with it, but if you like capping points in spvp well this is the build for you. All the PU mesmers out there will marvel at your survivability while they try and hide with their stealth and silly clones.

I hope you enjoy this build. Leave a comment if you find any improvements or if you tried it and liked it.
Live the tanky life my mesmer friends

gw2 is a nice step forward in the mmo market but i am sure that when mmo’s that are using voxels will come out few people will look back at gw2 again. I personally play gw2 because of the lack of trinity which i enjoy and the smooth gameplay performance i get. As for gameplay it’s meh… i enjoy tera alot more because of the action combat and skill required but i can’t take full advantage of that because in large fights you need a strong pc to handle the game and seeing as how you need to aim everything there having small freezes gets you dead.

Caedmon.6798:

So when 2 people use the exact same build..and fight each other..There will be one winner based on what.. ? The build ? No,his skill.

a little skill but mostly luck, who’s rune procs or who gets more crits etc.

For those who haven’t figured it out already, balance is impossible to get in gw2. Many of the top pvp players figured this out a long time ago and quit. I’m not saying that you can’t enjoy pvp all the same but don’t expect balance and i will tell you why.
The trait system is to complex for balance to be achieved in this game. When the devs are trying to balance 1 skill they have to take into account all that traits that might affect it and then compare it to all the other classes and their skills with traits. Can you even imagine what’s that like?
Just think how weapon skills there are and then add all the utilities and then think of all the traits that can change those skills.
This game will never be balanced and it was never meant to be. GW2 pvp is about builds and counters to those builds. That’s why pvp teams are supposed to take bunkers, counter to bunkers, counters to condi spammers and so on.
If you are all expecting some sort of magical balance which allows you to kill a counter to your build with skill alone i am sad to tell you that will never happen. You can take comfort in finding builds and think of that as having skills but when it comes down to the action it’s not very much skill involved, there is some but not much.
TL;DR GW2 is about builds not skill

I wouldn’t worry about it, nothing takes much skill in gw2 pvp. It’s all about the build you have and the counter to it. I play a phantasm mesmer and get ruined by mm necro but a shater mesmer would be able to kill it. Also a shater mesmer would get destroyed by a condi necro. This is just one example but if you take a look at all the classes you will see none require skill to play. Engi bunkers and turrets, Hambow wars, Spirit rangers etc.
Only class that requires skill i think is the elementalist and that’s not to say he is more powerful if played skillful, you just need to go all out to be on par with other players playing easier classes. If you want skill based pvp this is not the game for you. Gw2 is all about builds.

Staff is our best weapon for pvp so you might want to try it out in wvw. In pve i found it only useful for boss fights since it has the hardest hitting phantasm of all for single target.
If you want to use conditions as your main source of damage then staff is very good at that since clones auto atack apply conditions.
Maybe try a build more like this one for more tankiness while keeping most of your damage http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQBgEx8hg78BlDlCtL7KpY2uQA

Mesmer because nothing beats seeing noobs fight with your illusions

Mesmer= daze, then immobilize then use phant to burst everything down while invincible, spam repeat. Turn target into Moa if you know you suck.
Hahahaha i understand now i have been wasting my time with you.

I can see the warrior players have a hard time understanding simple english. I will explain my post again and simplify it, maybe with more success.
Warrior – press F1 = 13k DmG
Mesmer – press 3 + 2 + utility + F1 = Less damage
Simple enough for you now ?
All the posts about being outplayed and what not are irrelevant. I can be the biggest noob on the planet it does not matter. The fact is that war can press 1 button to get that damage out while other classes can’t. Even the next best thing, the backstab is harder to accomplish since you need positioning.
I understand for most of you it might be difficult to understand you play an easy class that’s to strong for the level of skill required, but there’s no need to start excusing your lack of skills with blaming others with lack of skill. If you will take your time and look on these forums for a bit, you will see every time people are complaining about a class to much it’s because it’s op not because it’s good the way it is but people are just unskilled. When you read the forums doesn’t it seem weird that most of the posts are complaining about warriors ?

glaphen i don’t understand what you want exactly. Why do you disaprove with my post ? Do you know any other class can do that much damage by pressing 1 button ? I see you spam this thread but you have no arguments. All you do is troll. My post was about numbers and all you said so far is random garbage. Do you have any numbers to back up your claims or just useless comments ? My post was not about dodging skill or how well classes can avoid being damaged. It was about numbers.
If your one of those people that gets confused by the mesmer illusions and they make you waste your attacks then i can see how you might think mesmer has a better defence then warrior, but i am trying to talk here with people that actually know what they are speaking about.

I play a mesmer and just got hit by a war with 13 k eviscerate. I don’t mind the fact that it’s hard to avoid and it hits like a truck, what i do mind though is that it’s a class with more hp and more defence then me doing this damage. That’s a class with more condi removal and good mobility and what’s even more upsetting is that’s not even skillful playing. I don’t know how many of you play a mesmer but i can tell you that for a mesmer to output 13 k dps we have to go through a lot of trouble, while war has to switch to axe and press f1. I don’t even think any other class can have such a big burst.
I wish we had some dps meters to see just how pathetic all the other classes are compared to warriors. And if it’s not burst they do they have sustain like nobody else. Anyone managed to avoid longbow F1 so far while trying to defend a point ? The fact that the difference in power between classes is absurd and to the people saying if you think warriors are so strong why don’t you just play one i will say that i don’t want to play a game with only warriors and spirit rangers. 1 year and counting and balance is still nowhere to be found in gw2. I thought any class could do everything other classes can, but nothing can compare to warriors in any aspect of the game.

I am sick of this part of the game and every time i play spvp i want to delete the game. I enjoy the other parts of the game pve and wvw but spvp makes me want to puch the screen. The balance has been a problem for more then a year now and it’s not geting any closer to being fixed. The capture the point mode is beyond kittened. The only reason i still play spvp is that i would like to get the high lvl finishers. If it weren’t for those i wouldn’t touch spvp ever again. It’s the absolute worst part of gw2 and it’s been like this since release.

I am sick of this kittening game mode. For Gods sake release a kitten new map already. I mean let’s be serious, the wvw team managed to revamp the map 3 times so far i think and i won’t even mention the pve team. WTF is the pvp team doing? Since launch we had 2 new maps. It has been more then 1 year. If it takes you 1 year to come up with a new map or game mode i am very impressed what the other teams are doing for the game. All spvp has been doing so far is trying to balance the kitteng classes and every time it breakes them even more. What does the pvp team have to show after 1 year of development in gw2 ? The wvw team made an entire kitteng overflow map which is awesome to. Treat this as a rant but there are many upsetting truths i have said here.

I found that staff and offhand sword pretty much guarantee a win vs a burst thief. Decoy is also necesary.

I am having trouble against bunkers in spvp mostly because the lack of access to poison and the lack of control over the pantasms. Shater spec does not have enough damage to take on a bunker and phantasms die/are blocked easily. Even when they do manage to hit their damage is as impressive as an auto atk from other classes. I keep running into engis holding points and they don’t even bother attacking me, that way maybe a confusion spec might work, but all they do is jump around laying bombs and turrets and i have no chance of wining. Looking for tips with this please. Any counter to bunkers that i am not aware of? Other bunkers are also hard but some i can eventually kill or their damage is low so they pose no threat.

piffdaddy.8014:

In order to duel, all karl had to do was enter ONE LINE OF CODE!!!!!

i am with you on this post, it was a big facepalm moment. I felt disappointed with the devs when i saw that

guardian killed it in 11 sec

i got traveler runes on my mesmer in spvp, maybe take a closer look.

what i think could help this game a great deal ( at least for me ) is being able to talk in wvw to the enemy, and to be able to see their names. At the moment seeing just x invader or x defender does not give me the ability to make a connection with that person. Did we fight before ? was he good ? maybe i should avoid him or maybe i talked to him once and even though we are enemies we don’t kill each other because we get along. I think this would improve the wvw experience greatly and i don’t even understand why the devs made the system like it is now. This complete anonymity in wvw has no purpose. Maybe 2 servers might come to agreements and make an alliance to fight a stronger server. This would open up the game to politics and intrigue. Maybe one server betrays the other one or maybe just guild does not agree with the deal and they go rogue. Well it’s worth considering at least imo. For pve i don’t know what would improve the game but for wvw this would be a big + and i don’t think it would be hard 2 do either.

I am very worried that nothing was mentioned about new game modes. I can’t have 1 more year of point caping for sure. For the love of God and all things holy make at least 1 more game mode !!!

you reflect everything afaik, i have had rangers kill themselfs with rapid fire while standing in the bubble

what about the necromancer golem in that case? That also produces an entity on the field and you can cast that without a target so there is no chance of stopping that skill.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Slow cast time provides the possibility of counter play in pvp. In pve it is not an issue, just start casting a second earlier than you have been.

this is illogical because there are many skills that have a much lower cast time, are those not counterable in pvp? Take into consideration that unlike other skills that start their effect at the moment you start casting and provide their effect while you cast them ( channeled skills ) , this is not the case with our skills.

I would like to know why the devs consider 1 sec casting on phantasm summoning skills is adequate. I don’t want to complain about it or anything like that, i want to know how is this balanced. I just had a fractal party and by the time i got my phantas summoned most mobs were nearly dead (except for boss fights).
In pvp this is also a problem because 1 sec may not seem like much but it’s a lot when you consider the fast pace everything happens.
I think a 1/2 sec cast on phantasms is required at least on iwarden, a phantasm that after a 1 sec cast has to cast it’s own skill for a few secs more. Duelist is in the same spot.
A shorter cast time would give mesmers more control while not making them op.
Anyway i would like to know the reason behind the long cast time so i can understand it and see if it’s justified, maybe i just don’t see it.

All things you pointed out are true but the fact that i can’t find any other mmo out there to play atm is keeping me here. When i will find another mmo with no trinity and no old fashioned quest system i am out of here, until then i am switching between pvp and pve looking for something that doesn’t annoy me.

Nice video but i bet those players don’t even know where the button for spvp is. This is why i don’t like wvw pvp… it’s all about the numbers not the skill.

Traveler runes are a necessity for mesmer but i can’t afford them. Spending 55 gold just so i can run like all the other players sucks.

so this really sux… i am stuck with using the kitten focus for mobility and i was starting to get used to the warden but now i have to chose between moving like a snail while everyone is running past me or having swiftness and a useless phantasm.

Taldren.7523:

Post patch …
30 ( 1 9 11) / 30 ( 4 10 11 ) / 0 / 10 ( 4 ) / 0

You can remove 2 with torch, 6 with MoRec, and 6 with MoRes … All while doing 3k+ with GS autoattack and MoPain.

i did notice this also and i don’t understand why anet is pushing for the use of mantras so much. I really don’t like to use them at all but it seems our utilities are starting to be weak compared to them

Taldren.7523:

Soul.5947:

i would like a power phantasm on torch instead of the condi image. I would like to use torch but having it just for the stealth on 30 sec cd is not that good.

I’d love the Phantasmal Rogue … but people think that Torch 4 is so good that 5 needs to suck to be balanced. I don’t know what they are smoking, but it must be some good S#!t

yeah i would like that phantasm also but slim chances for that to happen

man why are you not helping ?