I’d guess all servers do it. Personally Im in Foty Aspenwood and you usually have an open blob running around with TS
There’s pug commanders covering most times of the day
Just a few examples on the top of my head- [PAIN] for OCX, [OBEY] for Late OCX/Early NA, [APS] in NA ….
Im very curious to see your Firebrand builds for PvP/WvW …. I really wanna play a Burning Firebrand in WvW with some support capabilities but Im kinda lost on theorycrafting for Guardian, since I haven’t played it in a while
Would love to see some idea thrown here
Trailblazers all the way. Rune of the traveller
Valor (communal defense and AH, smiters boon would be in there as well but is bugged with mantras)
Virtues (Permeathing wrath, absolute resolution and master of consecrations)
FireBrand (Archivist of whispers, Legendary Lore and Loremaster)
Mantra of solace (selfish use impossible to hit the team with)
Mantra of Lore (selfish use impossible to hit the team with)
Mantra of Potence (selfish use impossible to hit the team with)
Purging flames
Renewed Focus (Elite mantra sucks big time and RF recharges the tomes)
The mantras has 0 use as support in the current iteration. The three i use adds self sustain though.
I have also tried with honor and traited shouts and valor with AH and FB. This would be a power setup and its pretty neat with mace and. Retreat and Stand your ground is super nice with traited quickness in FB. But you need to drop axe totally and go for power based weapons instead.
Any idea for a high condi damage build? Kinda like burn guard but at a Firebrand iteration?
What are you guys running? Are you even using Mantras?
I’ve been trying Radiance/Virtues/Firebrand but I think Im not getting the most out of it
Would like to hear what do you guys run
Honestly, I think low ranked people need more than they are getting. If you’re sub 150 and you are getting 3 per tick that’s messed up. Give everyone minimum of like 8 and just add 5 to every other tier. I don’t mind if 10k ranked players are getting 30 per minute. Idgaf what I can’t STAND is how little you get at low rank. 30ish hrs a week to cap without outnumbered is insane.
Not everyone is supposed to max out Diamond every week, only dedicated ones should. Once you get your head wrapped around the fact that it’s not supposed to be easy, it’ll fit the picture much better
I think that pip acquisition is currently fine, besides Outnumbered which is a huge problem imo
I think it should be removed entirely and maybe pump all other rank tiers by 1 or something
Its all going to depend on how well the barrier mechanic scales off vitality and healing power.
Sword is going to be a melee weapon that will benefit most from menders or sages in pvp if utilizing the barrier mechanics.
Weaver will most likely be rotational as well since managing 4 seperate cooldowns on top of everything else will be too hard to manage for most.
I foresee rotations being air, fire, earth, water or air, earth, fire, water. It could also be that with earth and water switched so that you can blast waterfields
I don’t think a high damage weaver using sword is going to be a viable option. I do think it could work with scepter or staff potentially.
TL&DR
Weaver will be more of the same, relying on self-preservation instead of team-support with more dps potential
There has JUST been a major balance patch [8.8] that has changed spirit weapons and has shaken up the whole meta and the classes
The whole community is still trying to wrap their heads around all this because it was very major, you’re welcome to look at the recent Patch notes which will probably be somewhat helpful, while we all wait for the new guides about the optimal builds
OP, please help me understand your logic,
because I honestly don’t understand why people that obviously are looking for zergs don’t just get on TS/Discord/Find a guild/Do whatever it is necessary to actually help YOURSELF and help YOUR server get better results.
Commanders exclude people from squads when they don’t get on TS because then people don’t know when to pop their buffs or when they should be going right or left.
Guilds exclude people from squad because they don’t want pugs running around not knowing what to do and when because they’re trying to create Organism .
Why do pugs insist on playing suboptimally? you’re screwing your server and your teammates, it’s stuff like this that hold a server back
OP, please help me understand your logic,
because I honestly don’t understand why people that obviously are looking for zergs don’t just get on TS/Discord/Find a guild/Do whatever it is necessary to actually help YOURSELF and help YOUR server get better results.
Commanders exclude people from squads when they don’t get on TS because then people don’t know when to pop their buffs or when they should be going right or left.
Guilds exclude people from squad because they don’t want pugs running around not knowing what to do and when because they’re trying to create Organism .
Why do pugs insist on playing suboptimally? you’re screwing your server and your teammates, it’s stuff like this that hold a server back
Is there any build editor that has already added the New elite specs?
I know we don’t have all the info but I would like to work with the little we do have, and honestly it’s just easier for me to understand when it’s layed out like that
Thanks in advance
Elite spec stuff is subject to change at launch… We are not going to get elite specs in build editors until final numbers for everything is out. There was also just a big profession patch, and maybe more to come, so we need to have realistic expectations and be patient.
Of course, Im not expecting anything, Im just trying
But I’m asking because I remember we did have 1 or 2 Editors adding the Elite specs after they’ve been intorduced leading up to the release of HoT, and since we already have most of the tooltips and the ability to data mine, I figured it might be possible that some website may have already added what we did get.
Anyhow Im realizing this is not the case and obviously I haven’t expected it to, so thanks everyone!
long shot u be able to see this wekend what the new specialized elite on specs. but on sept 22nd is the release so you have full use of the new specialized elites on all characters then
I might be wrong, but Im pretty sure this coming weekend only tests the story demo and doesn’t have the new elite specs
I’m kind of concerned that with the amount of boon strip in the new elites that it will kill any melee combat.
The elites that use melee to strip boons, won’t use melee because there’s boon strip? I think the opposite, Hammer Spellbreakers ftw.
That’s exactly the thing. If stripping requires melee, you won’t be engaging in melee…
I’m very concerned for the upcoming meta :\ I think there’s a good chance Pirate ship meta is going to be back…
I sure as hell hope it won’t though, it’s only left to wait and see now
Is there any build editor that has already added the New elite specs?
I know we don’t have all the info but I would like to work with the little we do have, and honestly it’s just easier for me to understand when it’s layed out like that
Guys, Im honestly not sure what to run or what to do. I’m not even sure if Warrior is still worth running considering the recent gutting we got
This is not a complaint thread, I’m just looking any word regarding how should we slot our traits, our utilities, whats the benchmarks? Is it even still worth running a Warrior?
Im asking the hardcore PvErs who immediately test things and give guidance- Whats your take on the new meta?
So, from a WvW perspective… was there anything about staff in WvW that actually warranted this change? Because it’s been virtually unseen in PvE or sPvP for a while now. I’d genuinely like to know if there was an actual call that this was OP by anyone, anywhere, that justifies this, or whether it was purely a dartboard nerf..
Yes. It’s surprising to me that so many guard mains haven’t been aware of this issue, actually
It was a very strong weapon in WvW since it was also capable of hitting through gates and walls, which is undoubtedly the precedent for this nerf
I personally dont think it’s justified or that the problem was that bad in the first place, it doesnt hit for a lot of damage anyway and it has never been a real issue, I dont think this nerf is justified.
Well, it had to come. Someone just had to be enough of a sassy crybaby to ask for that…
PvE gets you a kittenload of rewards already, this level of greed is astonishing.
Spirit Weapons were mentioned by a dev alongside Physical skills for Warriors.
Its going to be a meaty balance patch like the June 2015 patch which prepped the way for HoT.
Is there a link to this? All I care about is a change to spirit weapons _
A. This is the tooltip AFTER you spec into firebrand. I honestly dont see what does it say about play without Firebrand.
True, we can expect some balance changes and it might affect vanilla VoJ, but this isn’t it pal.
You thought you could play condi without Firebrand
Honest to god I just cannot seem to grasp what the hell do you people want anymore. WHY, dear god, WHY would you possibly try to run a condi spec without Firebrand if Fireband is an INTENDED condi spec?
Would you try running a healer ranger without Druid? would you play Auramancer without tempest? would you play Bruiser necro without Reaper?
What is it that you want?!
My solution is simple. Use the weapon swap button which ele currently doesn’t use to swap between which side of ur weapon bar you want to swap attuenments for.
Simple, fast, easy to implement and easy to fathom. Perfect solution imo.
In FA we have 3 guilds running in SEA times almost every day of the week, Said guild are DPS, PAIN and BB
Personally Im part of DPS, but all 3 guilds are pretty strong honestly
People said mounts was not even to happen then BOOM here they are
That’s hardly any evidence that there’s truth to that and you know it.
They weren’t struggling with mounts. In fact, they just introduced gliding, which means they are not afraid of new movement gimmicky mechanics and are in fact willing to implement them even into core Tyria.
With playable race it’s hardly the case, every indication we have points out towards the negative direction unfortunately.
I see nothing wrong about replacing garbage with useful, and re-implement this garbage WELL a second time around. I dont get what the hell is this about, did you expect them to just use these tomes on core Guard’s F1-3?
This elite spec was coming anyway, it was an idea that people liked and wanted it to come back, why the hell are people whining over everything
Removing tomes and then “bringing them back” as 5 shouts in each kit isn’t ideal, and that’s putting it lightly. These things aren’t tomes.
Well, first of all, you’re now talking about how the skills would work which A- Wasn’t the point of the discussion and B- We really don’t know yet
I mean, you’re going to have freakin’ 15 tome skills, I doubt they’re all the same as shouts
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying we don’t know yet. Lets just wait before we get so negative. Im actually optimistic about these tomes, I wanted them back!
Come to think of it: If the only reason for wvw players to buy the expansion is that the new elites are that OP that without you you don’t stand a chance, and if the new elites only suit their respective weapons (or D/P in thieve’s case because anet don’t get that the set itself is OP) : Then I am forced to play a certain set and that’s the opposite of “play how you want”. If you boil all of it down it’s really so sad.
OR, because the new elites are really freakin’ interesting and you’d want to play them, OR because the new elite specs will be new stuff to the table that hasn’t been in the game so far and it will shift the meta, OR because it’s a game you enjoy playing and it deserves some recognition and support (Yes, wallet support) seeing as how you spent 60$ on it (Or 90-120$) and gotten thousands upon thousands of hours from it in the past 4 freakin years
Btw this is one of the few games where “play what you want” does actually work, because you can play what you want and it will most likely be viable, But some specs will always be better than others, that’s just how world works really, please accept that
Or maybe you want them to make everything equal? Just slap on the same amount of dmg, cc and condi on every skill with different animations, you know, for fairness!!
I’d like that just as much you pal, believe me, but it ain’t going to happen and people have to stop hyping and talking about this because it creates unrealistic expectations, which result in complaints and salt.
The truth is that they’re struggling as it is when it comes to creating or even fixing content that’s related to the races. They’ve pretty much stopped putting out new armors, the ones we do have clip, Personal story is crap and some races barely have any lore (looking at you norn).
It ain’t going to happen people, let it go
Okay y’all need to calm down. My complaint isn’t that the spec looks bad, or that old tomes were good. It’s that we had these skills, then they were removed and replaced with some basic other abilities prior to the launch of a next skill/spec system. They then took those skills and fixed them, and incorporated them into a new spec. Which they are selling back to us. What if they decided to remove spirit weapons, turn them into minions like necromancer get, and sell them back to us for $30-$60 in the next expansion? That’s the kind of thing I’m upset about. Not the way the actual skills preform other than they were crap before and are presumably good now.
Alright so I’ll say it again because apparently that wasn’t clear last time-
They took out 2 very bad skills, turned them into something useful and then took the idea of these 2 bad skills (Which people did like) and implemented in a full on elite spec, hopefully well tuned this time.
I see nothing wrong about replacing garbage with useful, and re-implement this garbage WELL a second time around. I dont get what the hell is this about, did you expect them to just use these tomes on core Guard’s F1-3?
This elite spec was coming anyway, it was an idea that people liked and wanted it to come back, why the hell are people whining over everything
Instead of useless failing class skills you’re now getting a full elite spec, with the scope, ability and knowledge to do something great with it
WTF do you people want? It’s like you’re looking for things to whine about
We already have full support spec. Plus that tome casting times of 2-3 sec does not look promising for competitive pvp and wvw….
I couldnt agree more, which is probably why they completely reworked and who the heck knows what the cast time will be
As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.
I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.
Thank you for the answer.
It’s with this recent post in the AMA that my concern has been risen, and I hope you can address it:
With a full on expansion scope and budget there is simply much more that you guys can do (Maps, mechanics, etc…) and this “Live updates only” announcement raises a concern for me that WvW updates will forever be bound to a limited live-update scope.
Instead of useless failing class skills you’re now getting a full elite spec, with the scope, ability and knowledge to do something great with it
WTF do you people want? It’s like you’re looking for things to whine about
If you like warrior and you’re good at it, play it. Just know, it isn’t the most useful thing for the group and you’d be better off playing just about anything else besides medium armor classes. Medium armor classes are all terrible for larger group play, so just be glad it isn’t as bad as a thief, mesmer, or ranger lol.
Couldnt agree more, I just hope you meant to say Engineer there. xD
A good warrior is still an asset to any squad. You have one of the best elites in the game, and you’re one of the top damage dealers in the squad. That goes for both condi and power btw.
As far as guild groups go, who cares? The game in its current state is about as competitive as a bag of rice.
I disagree. The AoE damage Warr is capable of is very limited, and he’s a pretty selfish class outside of that, which is extremely bad for WvW.
I’m saying that as a WvW veteran and as a Warrior main- The truth is that is no reason to bring more than 1~2 warriors per zerg, and these 2 warriors are there for 1 skill only- Warbanner . There is nothing else that makes bringing a warrior worthy over any other class.
I was thinking the same thing when reading that comment…
Guys, Lets be 100% real and honest here, As much as it pains me to say that: If WvW content is only going to be shipped with live updates and not expansions, that means there isn’t going to be any major mechanic/map/whatever that will be thrown in. The truth is that there’s a limit to live update’s scope, and it will never be big enough for anything major.
He explicitly said there isn’t going to be anything big for WvW with expansions, I can only infer from this that there isn’t going to be anything big at all.
They were once talking about a big WvW overhaul, but that talk seem to have faded away. I think that was the biggest update we’ll have guys.
It was great, it brought a lot of population that was definitely lacking, but there are still a lot of room to improve, even little tweaks could help out a lot, but I think these tweaks are a lot we’re ever gonna get.
I think the opposite, Hammer Spellbreakers ftw.
