[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
Pros:
-Iconics, Biconics, Trahearne and Doern Velazquez, all in the same istance. Finally.
-Trahearne acting as the plant in charge
-The characterization of Canach: he is still a shady bomber. Love the pessimist attitude.
-The dialogues/books reflect what playerbase said during the previous patches.
-Mechanics of facets in the Lair: not just a “go there and bash them”, well done.
-Attention to details: the istances felt alive. Every NPC had a reason to be there, something to do. Zhaitan tail. Books. Amazing.
-Marjory and Belinda. Very touching moment.
-The library. I’ve spent 2h there. Well done.
-The reliquary: loved the gems behind the crates!
-You are not forced to listen, dialogues don’t stop the action (the opposite of the Aetherpath)
-WvWvW/PvE crossover.
-Air strikes: I really love to light that signals!
-Mordrem are very uniques, I love them, the flanking of wolves, the dashing of the teragriff and the knockdown when crippled (that’s how should work for players too: if you are clippled, you can’t Whirl/Rush away) and so on.
-Ogden: finally he’s truly back. And have a great voice acting.
Cons:
-Don’t forget that Marjory is a Necromancer. If she have to use the greatsword all the time, please, add a persistent “necromantic touch” (I’ll miss her axe and dagger).
-Silverwastes event cicle is a bit too repetitive (maybe this will change in 2 weeks)
-The ghosts: why they are there? We got no explanation (is Marjory fault? Or due krait obelisk shards?)
-The library seem to be designed by Order of Whispers rather then Priory.
Note: so many artifacts in an “I only hope it is safe” place. Really bad idea. I think someone will feast on them soon.
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
I am really loving the discussion going on in this thread. This is a testament to how awesome our community is! Alright so now that we have flushed out some ideas let me give you some guide lines and let me know if we can design around it.
1. Must be able to be hot join-able
* Not easily griefed and allow players to be able to jump in and out
2. Must fit the 5 on 5 standard
3. Can fit our standard PvP match time (15 mins)
4. (Would Be Nice) Shout castableAlright let me know how your ideas fit or change with these standards.
Should be hot join-able? Most of the time in hotjoins people tend to forget what’s the objective of the game mode and start fighting for fun, or the game is affected by disparity in numbers in numebrs of players, and so on. Hotjoins should be seen as an additional way to play the game with no expectation, but for me the design of a new game mode shouldn’t be conditioned at all by the ability to be hot join-able.
And what do you mean with “Not easily griefed”? A griefer will find anyway a mechanism to ruin the game experience for others (I’m looking at you engi that love to move around people on purpose when someone try to stomp them in Solo Q).
For example you can’t make a MOBA style game designed to avoid the risk of “feeding” the enemy team, you have to build something totally different where killing an enemy won’t make you stronger.
For the point 3, i agree with KarsaiB.9475: 15 minutes games tend to be anti climactic.
Should be at least 20 – 25 min.
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
Use this tool! http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
Capture The Flag
Win Conditions:
- Capture 7/7 Enemy Flags (Includes 1 Hard Flag or flag located closest to spawn )
- Most Flags Captured When Timer Expires
- Most Flags Saved > Capture Draw
- Most Kills > Save Draw > Capture Draw
p.s. Map terrain and thoughtful flag placement makes all the difference. Can provide more details to the above if necessary.
So a few things on CTF:
We found that CTF works best as a “push” the flag, not “cap it by bringing it back to my base”. This means you have to push through the enemy team, and since you need to push it into their spawn, it means they can more easily defend a cap.
If it’s “cap” it by bringing it back to your base, there are often cases where the capturing team gets a flag past a certain point on the field, and no one on the defending team can catch up with them in order to prevent the cap.
We tried various mechanics, like making it so that the flag carrier couldn’t use skills, or they had to use “flag” skills, or they were just slowed down greatly, but in most of those instances, players didn’t have as much fun when carrying a flag. You can see some of this carried over to Spirit Watch and some of the issues it has.
Just some things to think about.
Then, why don’t a Capture the HAMMER?
The game mode could work similiar to the cliffside fractal where the hammer have his own skillset and some drawbacks:
-damage when picked up
-stacks of “corruption” just like the cliffside one with the
and/or
-new mechanics, for example a speed modifier based on the stacks of “corruption”
If you keep the corruption mechanic (or make something similiar) you will force team to cooperate due the nature of the drawbacks of the hammer and will help the enemy team to catch up and make a comeback.
Instead of cap you can place some objective to destroy with the hammer (sigils on a colossus or chains that hold him, totems, searing cauldron and so on) with the weapon that “teleport” after a objective destruction.
Remember that no one force you to make the targets all near/far from the team spawn point.
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
Edge of the Mists will have a lot of content elements but much less arbitrary than the current maps. You won’t see random wolves wandering along the plains but there might be a nice cave with wolves and a Boss wolf den mother where players might go to farm and others might go to gank unsuspecting farmers. Here are some existing examples which are subject to change.
[…]
Sounds good to me as there are things to do when the map is empty/domineted by one server. I hope to see this new map with my eyes asap! I’m so excited!
As Marcus Greythorne stated, I fear too that WvWvW elitist/purist will dislike this PvE component (would be not the first time): I count on the fact that they will wait to see the mechanics by themselves before making complaints on the forum!
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
Q: Will Edge of the Mists have small PvE elements (i mean wolves, oozes, deers) like the others WvWvW maps or will be a full PvP map?
Q: Why the map is filled with orrery-looking-objects?https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2426103-WvW-maps.jpg
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
1) Conditions overhaul
2) More Personal Story
3) More rewards with dungeon token
_______________________________________________
1)-Add a mechanic to avoid wasting of condition damage.
Having x5 direct damage in a party is good, having x>1 condition damage users with a similiar build is bad: add a way to mitigate this for both conditions that stack in duration and conditions that stack in intensity, for example: raise the damage done by the condition when the duration/stacks go over a specific threshold
-Direct damage have many damage amplifiers (power, critical damage stat, Vulnerability, sigils/runes, traits, nourishments) and they stacks, condition damage have only one amplifier (condition damage). This is not very “fair” to me.
2) Introduce more Personal Story: if you don’t want to push more in the directions of dragons, you can still make “fillers episodes” (just like anime and TV series do) to expand the lore or the relations between our character and NPCs/our race/our Order/the Pact.
3) If i’m not interested by stats combination and skins given by a dungeon and i don’t plan to make a alt, the token are almost useless for me. Add something worth buying
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
(edited by Tiborb.1453)
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
(edited by Tiborb.1453)
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
(edited by Tiborb.1453)
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
The problem lies in taking things too literal, look form example at the thief, he would be all green yes for considering that stealth is a guaranteed interrupt, and that the teleport can only be countered if you use it too early against someone with a teleport, so both skills are multi target interrupts, the first one sometimes counterable (against people who use it too early) if you are lucky enough to have an instant teleport available and the second one always counters multiple stomps more or less (depends on stealth traits in combination with multistomping coordination). but then so can thieves shadow step stomp people who can counter both stealth and stability stomps.
Yeah, I know that, moving around stop the stomp de facto , not literally
The point is:
- mesmer, elementalist, thief 2# can prevent ALL stomping attempt (stability, with blind/smoke field, stealth, mist stomp, shadowstep stomp, portal stomp) coming from multiple opponents
- guardian 2# can stop multiple stomping attempt coming from non-stability opponents (like stealth ones)
- ranger 2# can stop multiple simultaneous non-stealth, non-stability, non-blinding stomping attempt
- engineer 2# can stop a single non-stealth, non-stability, non-blinding stomp attempt and if have enought time the 3# can stop multiple simultaneous non-stability stomp
- necromancer and warrior 2# can stop a single non-stealth, non-stability, non-blinding stomp.
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
I can’t heal in my Death Shroud, why should you heal in Mist Form?
That’s not a simple SB, as you can’t be hitted while in that form and can prevent A LOT of damage (as a deadly immobilize+hb / immobilize+wells combo and so on)
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
As this dungeon will go away once the event will end, why don’t you keep it in the game in a different form?
Since fractals are “windows” on different fragments of reality, sometime well definite in time and space (Urban Battlegrounds Fractal is part of the flame legion assault on a ascalionian city), other times not (Cliffside Fractal is in a indefinite location, with a indefinite enemy and an indefinite giant to save ), why don’t you open a “window” on a Molten Weapons Factory?
The istance is well designed, should be a waste if totally removed from the game.
Maybe the current version is now a bit too long for a fractal, but you can cut a part or two to make it “fractable” (for example cut from the drilling part to the Thermal Core part and the final escape), remove Rox and Braham and balance a encounter or two (like adding a middle fractal boss). As far as we know there are plenty of this weapons facilities: the one in the fractal could be a dormant one escaped from the destruction or a early prototype one (so the copy-paste effect will be avoided/mitigated).
In this way the fractal could be at the same time different and similar to the one we are knowing during the event.
(sorry for my poor english
)
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
I’ve tested it in sectember, maybe something is changed (as you can see here they tought the same).
Time to test again.
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest
[LOCK] The Closed Society – Seafarer’s Rest