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I wanna try warrior! I know your trolling but it looks fun xD

Thief elite skills

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Yeah I love Thieves Guild if i’m running a back stab/heartseeker build.

Basilisk Venom if i’m running Sword/Pistol (Basilisk>Pistol whip)

Dagger Storm for my bleed builds!

I think they complement certain builds rather well!

anti heartseekerspam tactics please:)

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Qtin you realize that instead of trying to deathblow thieves you can just attack them to death on the ground right?

This. And, thieves have 25% ms and guardians? How can I catch a runner?

Do you mean how does a guardian catch a running thief?

Pretty sure you got some nice ports, like Judge’s intervention?

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Haha just pulled of winning a 1v3 with this xD

But wait! I thought I heard “skilled” players saying that’s impossible in this game because of downed state! You must be fibbing, sir.

=D

I downed all 3, then got 2 but the warrior healed himself back up by the time I got back to him then my team charged in and we finished him… So It’s sort of a win 1v3 :P

Pretty sure i recorded it

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Wait a minute i thought thief was only dps, no survivability…

Oh wait…

It’s all DOT. Against better players they know how to REMOVE these coniditions, luckily this build bring it back pretty fast.

People tend to complain about backstabbing and heart seeker spammer, which in that case is too easy imo.

Discussion about Thiefs and Guardians

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Thief is currently out of balance when compared to other classes.

Guardians can spec very defensively, but that is their niche. they give up a lot to be that spec, as opposed to thieves who still retain a lot of utility and mobility while putting out unmatched dps without much setup or skill required.

Sadly, the potential of a thief is VERY high, and so an average player will be very strong/borderline OP on thief, while a skilled player simply out performs any other class counterpart.

I understand the frustration about thieves, but I honestly don’t think they are as good as people say. YES they have the best DPS but, when I use thief if I stand still for even a second or 2 i’m dead just like that, admittedly I’m fine now I made a good build that lets me evade ALOT in fights but yeah an average player couldn’t be ‘OP’ as a thiev imho…

I don’t have problems beating them with a Mesmer

Thief D/D and D/P or P/D Swap Condition Build.. (Leveling)

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well I posted my PVP build for coniditon

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/My-Insane-PVP-Thief-Build-w-Guide/first#post46633

It actually should work really well in PVE with a few little adjustments, mainly the runes…. Have a look and see if you can get anywhere with it I’d switch pistols too bow though.

I love downed state.

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I think it’s cool

I’m more frustated when I get some person who for some reason, I JUST CANNOT KILL.

They are sitting there all innocent then BAM im knocked down and they dissapear…

Rinse and repeat… I’m more frustrated being on the OTHER end of it HAHA.

What to do with lvl 80?

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Everyone wants this game to be an alternative to World of Warcraft but then they are complaining because the game isn’t exactly like World of Warcraft? I have a hard time understanding the thought process here?

Never played WOW :P

DCUO is the only other MMO I have clocked alot of hours into

Where is the Quiver??

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Oh my lord.. I never…

CONSPIRACY! (against quivers)

My Insane PVP Thief Build w/ Guide!

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wwwwwwwwwww2222222222222222222222222222 nice guide ty

Glad it helped.

;P

What to do with lvl 80?

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Yeah I can’t quite get my head around it, I really enjoy this game but there is something missing…

Personally don’t like how the map missions are done, going to the hearts on the map and doing whatever it tells you, fell grindy going zone too zone just to boost my level… Only level 21. I do enjoy the big bosses though, they are insanely fun!

My preference is PVP and even that is missing that.. Something… I came from DCUO and I LOVED that game. I just can’t figure out what it is that is missing…

Gonna keep playing of course, it’s a great game still

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Haha just pulled of winning a 1v3 with this xD

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And then he dodges after first death blossom and out of caltrops

No hate, i just find that one trick ponys builds not decent enough for pvp, you are commiting way to much Initiative/utilitys for decent damage from my POW

You have the elite skil for more damage and the bleed damage is insane. The damage racks up to insane numbers while you are recharging Plus roll for initiative give a load of it back so you can do it alot! By the time I have got my inititive back (without roll) the enemies are pretty much dead :P I haven’t lost a 1v1 since using this either! Too much survivability!

I haven’t come below top score with it yet always getting 12+ kills

…Okay I don’t ALWAYS come first, but too show you how my scoring is going I joined a game last night, the top scorer was on 140, scores were around 350-350 and I ended up drawing with his score

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http://www.gw2build.com/builds/thief-pvp-condition-build-pvp-awesome-thief-5822.html

Lots of people asking around the forums for a good thief build, figured i’d help ’em out.

Thief
Steal > Death Blossom then Caltrops.
Then just evade all over the place and then repeat the process, Heartseeker for the finishing and the duel pistols are just when im running and I see an ally in a fight I can sit on the side and spam Unload

Things that can change:

Rune of Melandru is also very good, it makes you stunned for less time and conditions put on you don’t last as long!

Bow is good because it has AOE poisons

If you have any questions please feel free to ask!

ALSO: If you think this is a one trick pony build, it only takes about 1-3 second of evading before you can unleash more death blossoms, easily stacking 25 bleeds on the enemy. bleeds are around 3.8k damage over 13 seconds per 1 stack of 3 bleeds.

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Yeah I was a little confused…

What about using mind wrack, but it send all your illusions next to the targets, then they explode.

is that the sort of thing you want?

That’s exactly what I’m craving, the little suicide bomber act leaves me wanting. When I first picked up this class and read shatter I expected it to be like a fingersnap. Someone running up the boxes in clocktower when they see a shatter coming and ruining my burst even when they’re out of dodges is just lame.

In that case I understand where your coming from! I think it would make the Mesmer just a bit more viable for PVE not that it isn’t already but it’s damage doesn’t tend to stack up from my experience to other classes…

How do I heal myself when I'm downed?

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Your number 4 skill will heal you constantly!

But it is interrupted by any attacks from players…

Current OP class ?

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What makes you think engineer is simple? If your looking for a high fps faceroll class envy is far from what your looking for

I was talking about keeping it simple, I used a turret based class and found it pretty simple compared to other class builds I have used

I’m sure all classes have a set of confusing build but I just know Engie is good because it can handle itself well with simpler builds aswell

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Yeah I was a little confused…

What about using mind wrack, but it send all your illusions next to the targets, then they explode.

is that the sort of thing you want?

Current OP class ?

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There is no OP class ><

It’s all about personal preference. People might come here and say the Thief. But if you do ‘suck’ which im sure is an exaggeration then the thief will be hard to play at first. Due to the relentless dodging you will need to do :P

Try simple, like find a tanky warrior/guardian build maybe or the Engineer/Ranger. Then when your more fluent with controls work your way through harder to master classes maybe.

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Vertix I’m right with you on the sword/pistol and staff chaos field is great for Boone and conditions, and I love magic bullet and blurred frenzy. Mesmer is great because you can have multiple playstyles you prefer to keep phantasms up and I have tons of clones and shatter every time it is off cool down. Good stuff.

I do agree anyone arguing about our dueling. Mesmers damage on combos maybe a lower than other professions, but there is a trade off we have great burst potential and stealth/clones to make up for it.

I feel mesmers are great where they are at and a solid profession.

Exactly

I mean… compare blurred franzy to say, Pistol Whip no one can talk of us having too much damage in that area. It’s pretty spread over everything in my build, even conditions!

I love the uniqueness of the Mesmer

Thievies: When are they going to be fixed?

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I don’t think they need to be nerfed too badly, maybe Heartseeker but that’s it in my opinion. I don’t have trouble taking down thieves…

BUT too many thieves DOES get OP… That much damage output is too much, especially if they are running bleed builds…

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Anyone complaining about our dueling potential right now is just being silly. I’d consider shuffling points from illusion and chaos to pick up phantasmal strength. If you’re doing structured you may also want to consider null field for your team depending on whose bring what. I prefer the sigils of air and earth over the crit chance personally but that’s just me. Everything else looks like the standard cookie cutter phantasm build with a bit of personal touch.

I realised I had done a bit of traiting wrong in the build! Ah im such an idiot… LOL I didn’t realize I did it too fast.

I edited it a little bit. Forgot I had illusion damage on instead of phantasmal damage :P

Well done for mentioning it!

I don’t think anyone can consider you an idiot the builds you post are pretty much always useful, that one had more survivability than someone running phantasmal strength I simply prefer more output in structured.

Haha thank you! And yeah, it all varies I mean I can drop some traits for less survivability simply because I know how to use Blink so effectively now that it is like the ultimate life saver!

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Anyone complaining about our dueling potential right now is just being silly. I’d consider shuffling points from illusion and chaos to pick up phantasmal strength. If you’re doing structured you may also want to consider null field for your team depending on whose bring what. I prefer the sigils of air and earth over the crit chance personally but that’s just me. Everything else looks like the standard cookie cutter phantasm build with a bit of personal touch.

I realised I had done a bit of traiting wrong in the build! Ah im such an idiot… LOL I didn’t realize I did it too fast.

I edited it a little bit. Forgot I had illusion damage on instead of phantasmal damage :P

Well done for mentioning it!

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This is pretty much the same build I am running except with different traits. A few things I prefer differently (not saying its better as your build is good) I prefer the clones on dodge in the dueling the tree. Also the trait that killing illusions places conditions on your foes, as mobs and players always attack illusions at one time or another. I am rocking the mind wrack trait 20%cdamage just like you are, and I have the extra Crit on mind wrack, which I think I am actually going to switch because I am at about the same Crit level as you 45% so it’s now going to not make much of a difference for extra Crit on mind wrack. How is the extra damage on phantasms working out for you? I hesitate to spec into that because how easily they die and how often I end up Shattering (shattering for me does wonders and I get some great results in pvp and pve) usually keep phantasms up for a volley or 2 then shatter as they usually get wrecked by Aoe pretty quickly. I love mirror image an instant 2 clones is great for shatter/get away without using your abilities. And I use decoy which works well for me, and phantasmal defender, I tried signet of domination like you have and the stun is great, but the cool down kind of sucks, how’s it working for you?

Overall seems like a very good and solid build

Well the stuns are great for me because I only use them once in a while when I see an enemy getting around the half health mark, I stun > blurred frenzy normally takes them down!

And as far as the extra damage, I rely alot on the Phantasm damage so it really does add up in the long run. Plus the insane damage bonus I get to add to the Sorcerer because im spamming boons on enemies with Chaos Storm and the staff auto attack then switch back to sword and normally use the stun > blurred frenzy and making sure I always have all illusions/phantasm’s up and damaging!

I don’t usually use min rack etc, I want to keep my summons up as long as possible for constant pressure! Infact I sometimes go 5 games without using it… It does help though against thieves, seeing as I find killing them as fast as possible is necessary unlike other fight im so comfortable with the build I can pretty much control any 1v1 im in. And the health boost trait for my summons helps alot, and like you said they can die fast, so making sure they are constantly up by switching back and forth from staff and sword helps. Also I have magic bullet to stun, which has a relatively fast cooldown! And the fast deaths mean I like to get in as much damage with them as possible before they do die and I have to re-summon hence the + damage trait.

And yeah the stuns work fine for me, like I said I have come to such a comfortable stage with the build I almost never find my self in a situation where ‘Oh no I haven’t recharged that yet!‘… It’s almost like I subcontiously know everything about it haha.

Glad you like the build

I think sometimes I mix up the word phantasm with illusion in this post, my bad haha.

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Mesmer Trainer armor.

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I think this is the one we’re all talking about.

Oh that’s not what I was thinking of…

Maybe it’s not armor, it’s street clothes? Sort of looks it…

Where do people find good PvP builds for thief?

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http://www.gw2build.com/builds/dagger-condition-competitive-pvp-bleed-4922.html

This is the build I use, read the guide also. I didn’t come up with the build, neither did I write the guide but it’s good. I made some changes to suit my style which im sure you will do

No focus on objectives or communication in the zerg fest PvP

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I hardly ever see this… :S

People I play with, even the randoms are always really good at getting their points and defending…

... Forum kittens?

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OH!

I though it was a word people used for describing a class as weak…

Like: “The ranger got kittened”…

No Mounts?

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I would not be even REMOTELY suprised if they bring them in a future update/expansion.

I think the people at Anet could come up with some awesome Cultural based mounts.

Asuran would have the best. :P

Mesmer Trainer armor.

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Got a picture of the trainer?

If i’m right I think it’s the Masquerade?

Are Thieves giving you trouble in PvP? Check this out!

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Ppl will always find a op prof to whine about^^ reroll and try that prof:D I find warrior very op 1v1, then again I never had to face them 1v1:D

Trying a profession out really does help!

If one of them is giving you trouble, go try it out, see how it works.

Seriously it is the answer to all of your problems. If only more ppl did this.

Yep, I had problems with Mesmer. Now I love playing it and can counter it relatively easily depending on how good the Mesmer is, but generally not too much trouble!

How to build thief?

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Find a good condition build, if you can’t find one I will give you mine.

Seriously though, Condition bleed/poison thieves in PVP are amazing, winning 1v1’s and 1v2’s like nothing :P

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Also feel free to post your builds here and we can discuss them

over-powered vs underpowered classes?

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I guess thief/warrior…. Not sure why warrior they just seem to give me more trouble than other ones haha. that have some move that hits me for 9k… I find to be the closest to OP. But generally I play Thief/Mesmer so in 1v1’s situations I can roll most people XD

Thief Sword/Dagger in PVP

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Don’t use sword/pistol I use a condition build with insane suvivabilty (Pretty much infinite dodging while stuff recharges)

and keep either Pistol + Dagger or Shortbow or Duel Pistols handy, works perfectly for me.

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Hey guys, figured I give this a show. It basically uses ALOT of pressure to win almost all 1v1’s/1v2’s and helps alot in team fights because it creates the image of our team being alot bigger than it is. VERY INTIMIDATING ;P

Just posting it because I have seen people complaining about Mesmer being too weak so figured people can give it a try.

I’ve top scored consistantly aswell, It’s very good for defending objectives due to it’s survivability! Hope it helps, feel free to add me in-game by the way

Server: Aurora Glade

Thief: Cheeky Thief

Mesmer: Lord of Loss

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/guide-to-damage-pressure-survivability-w-guide-high-damage-top-score-pressure-kills-5414.html

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I just wish you could show off your PVP gear earned and too show your PVP rank outside of PVP in the PVE area.

Also if i’m right, I don’t think PVP gets unique gear? I could be wrong but I Wasn’t sure if it did.. Unless the gear like Mist Walker is.. And if so I wanna show it off in PVE :P

Cultural Armor - Overpriced?

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I agree with the transmutation, maybe not the specific reason but it is a viable option.

I mean the human T3 scout gear just looks so… GOOD!

Conditions + Mesmer --> confused

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1. The ‘+ condition damage’ is basically ANY condition that deals damage, poison, burn etc.

2. The traits, well can you be more specific of which traits? But i’m pretty sure it’s talking about when the clones die, as in killed by another player/creature.

3. The random condition is random, it could be any condition, but it tends to be a burn or poison/cripple.

Hope this in some way helped

thank you for your fast response

1.) well confusion technically doesn’t deal damage if the enemy uses no skills (e.g. runs away), but isn’t confusion influenced by this too?

2.) sure.
-) Crippling Dissipation
-) Confusing Combatants (Grandmaster Minor)

3.) so it could be any condition? Interesting. A bit too random for me then.

1. Well the one thing I love about random conditions, is if your using the staff almost all of your spells grant them, and for each individual condition the Phantasmal Sorcerer gets 10% damage increase. So in PVP before attacking with sword/pistol I drop tonnes of conditions and a sorcerer for some serious damage

Also, confusion does deal damage! It deal damage (normally farely good damage) when ever the person who is confused uses a skill. So your often see confusion stacking Mesmer. And yeah I do believe confusion is included, the best way to find out is find a skill that grants confusion and see the damage done by confusion, then stack some +condition damage jewels are whatever and see if it increases

I think this answers your question :P

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Sounds like you need a better build! Admittedly I find rangers alot easier than some classes to beat, but I have also seen them do tonnes of damage.

Look for a new build on the build websites, and also, you need to dodge alot xD

Conditions + Mesmer --> confused

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1. The ‘+ condition damage’ is basically ANY condition that deals damage, poison, burn etc.

2. The traits, well can you be more specific of which traits? But i’m pretty sure it’s talking about when the clones die, as in killed by another player/creature.

3. The random condition is random, it could be any condition, but it tends to be a burn or poison/cripple.

Hope this in some way helped

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Sounds like engineers need a new customization slot that is for kits. xP

How do I kill mesmers?

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No worries. The above is pretty much all you need to know about us. Our clones are stationary and very, very stupid. Everything we have has a tell, once people encounter us a few times I don’t think they’ll struggle at all with our abilities.

Exactly, i’m worried when the day will come when our tricks no longer work haha.

And people should be wary of the Phantasm Thief we can summon when downed, can easily backstab 6k+ You will spot it easily, because it’s a phantasm of course, but still if your on low health after a fight with a Mesmer, it can easily finish you off!

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The stun on Pistol Whip doesn’t last nearly so long that you can’t dodge out of it after you’re hit >_> just dodge.

Unload- Dodge

Heartseeker- Dodge..its so telegraphed you can’t miss it.

Basically: Getting owned with one button spam is just playing badly. Dodge. Thieves spam one button because ppl still havent figured out what the dodge button does. Its the same reasons warriors used to spam 100b. Once the meta learns to dodge things will get really good.

Exactly. I can see that Heartseeker is harder too dodge because it can be used a lot faster, one after the other.

But your right about the others.

People are convinced necro's are terrible. What to reroll?

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Well a supportive guardian is always wanted…

A warrior is good also for the rolling the adds.

Swearing in private?

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Does it work so that, swearing in general isn’t too bad, as long as it isn’t over used.

BUT swearing AT people or at the game is where things get a bit… Bannable?

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Necro’s are not terrible!

I don’t play them, but they have done some mad damage on me. Although I will admit I haven’t played against too many good ones, I normally just plow them into the ground with my Thief or Mesmer… (Mesmer isn’t so much plowed as… trolled….)

How do I kill mesmers?

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I play a number of classes, Thief and Mesmer are by far my favorite.

The trick to beating a Mesmer, is too play as one. The big thing about finding out which is the real deal, is to watch what each ‘Illusion’ is doing, for example the Duelist Illusion will stand their idly doing nothing until it is ready to unload it’s clips. The Sorcerer illusion will stand there using an auto attack making no effort too dodge. The bezerker will stand still and occasionally use it’s spin attack, etc. You will know the real deal because they will dodge, use multiple spells, switch weapons. It really isn’t as hard as some people think

Hope this helped

You’re describing phantasms here. Phantasms do not look like us nor do they have our name. I really hope no one is confusing Illusionary Duelist for me.

Your right I was just trying to save time, I got alot of names wrong in that ><…

Phantasm Leap which summons the illusion that attacks the foe with a sword, can’t distinguish it from the real Mesmer looks wise, BUT it can be via what it does. Like I mentioned in the previous post, also if it makes a big puff of purple smoke, it means the Mesmer has switched places with it, so the person you though was the Fake, is now the real one… It get’s kinda confusing, i’m trying to help, but it is just second nature too me so I don’t think too much about it XD

I edited my original post about how to deal with Downed illusions :P

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Hello Reinhart,
here are some of my own observations regarding the problems you have encountered with some skills.

Pistol Whip -
The damage portion of pistol whip has a long windup time, you can dodge out of it even if you are hit by the stun.

Unload -
If you dodge even once then most of the bullets will miss you, even if the opponent has haste buff.
Secondly using Unload is not as effective as you make it out to be, even if you manage to get hit by a fully optimized unload under the best circumstances that’s at most 5-6k damage. The thief that shot you has 16k~ hp and 0 toughness.

Warrior -
Conditions
Warriors have one of the longest basic bleed with their 50%+ bleed-duration trait, Warriors can also put up the most bleeds in the shortest time with their Sword Burst.
The problem with them isn’t duration, but rather that warriors, unlike other classes have to get into melee to put the dots up.

Lastly, consider relaxing on calling for increases on cooldowns. I get that you don’t like that every warrior is running around with Greatsword, but increasing cooldown to some arbitrary high number isn’t going to change anything, 100swords is mostly used with frenzy, and that has a 60sec CD.

Cheers.

Agree with all these points.

One thing I would change though that you didn’t mention, I don’t think illusions need a damage reduction. I play Mesmer, and the illusions are my only real source of damage. I have almost no other spells that do damage, I let the illusions damage while I give boons/conditions and my only burst dps I can do is:

Stun > Blurred Frenzy.