Guild Wars 2

Howdy all, having recently returned to the game from a 6 month break I have had a lot to catch-up on. I was still following the game and my beloved server (Aurora Glade) during my absence, and one of the most intriguing changes for me was the match-up system.

Now I am back I decided to have a look at the change, and the results it has created.

My own personal view on the match-up system, that now pits server against server outside of their Tier ranking, is that it is crazy, but I wanted to know if it really made all that much of a difference to the game.

My findings are all based on the stats from mos.millenium site, for the last 12 weeks (108 match-ups), on the EU servers.

Results are as follows,

Percentage Chance to win the week if you start as Highest Ranking Server – 79% (85 of 108 matches were won by the highest ranking server)

Of those matchups that the Highest Ranking Server DID NOT win, the week was won by a Server +/- 2 Positions away from the Highest Ranker 82% of the time (19 of the 23 matches).

If your server begins the week more than two places away from the Highest Ranking Server, your chance of winning that week is 3.7% (only 4 of 108 matches)

In Summary
To me it seems that the change from the old system has simply made a 3-way fight into a two horse race. Either the Highest Ranking Server wins, or a server it would normally be in the same Tier with wins. If your server ranks more than two places away from the highest ranker in your matchup, its going to be a very harsh week for you indeed.

Its a double edged sword for me.
I don’t play much anymore as the game doesn’t excite me, and there are other games calling my name, but I do log in to check what my Dailies are, and if they are easy or wont take to long I will do them. I want the Laurels so I don’t fall too far behind in WvW.
If they look complicated I log straight back out and go play something else. I’ve also being playing from launch and never managed to complete a Monthly

Im in the same boat
Money spent on GW in 6months: Box price
Money spent on other games in 6 months: Lots

I assumed there would be cool stuff to buy, like armour skins, but all stuff I have seen is horrible. Some of the Halloween was nice for novelty value, but nothing I really would spend on.

Give me a selection of Medieval Shields, nothing fancy, no skulls, no frills, no fairy lights and I will give you money.
Give me Quagan backpacks? I am not a 12 year old girl.

A break from other games
I might pop on to do my Dailies, but if they are too much of a hassle I usually log out again.
Other than that I mainly log in to say ‘Howdy’ to a few friends, and maybe 10-15mins in WvW.
Don’t get me wrong, I still like the game, but it stopped being on my ‘most played’ list a long time ago

Being of a similar age, I agree with some of your post, but I think its more a result of the evolution of games, than gamers per say.

Back in the day RPG meant ‘Phantasy Star’, and if you wanted a new weapon you killed X creatures, saved your cash, went to the shop. It was simple back then. There were no restrictions on killing the same creature, no restrictions on how to earn, no restrictions on how to spend.

Problems only arise when people feel they are restricted for no good reason, add that to ‘free open’ speech (read: QQ) of forums and people have a place to vent their frustrations.

@Vayne

Agreed. But this games economy is one of the worst I have seen. Its on par with an action mmo, you vendor 95% of the stuff you find. And what can you spend gold on that’s so important?

Whatever happened to ‘play how you choose’? People have been doing dragons over and over for the last few months. A ‘dragon timer’ website was even born to cover this. The economy survived.

I cant see why Anet would choose (again) to restrict its user base.

I missed this..

So effectively this means they are saying ‘go repeat X(fractals/dungeons etc) over and over and over’, and in the same breath saying we are not allowing you to ‘repeat Y(big event), over and over’.

On one hand I can see where they are coming from, they don’t want people getting good stuff, easy, by repeating the same fight. But they want us to repeat the same grind over and over elsewhere, for longer, with less reward…

Only game I have ever played that releases ‘new’ content that a % of the player base CANT access, and those that can are forced to wait 9 weeks and grind the same stuff over and over to earn the pts to unlock.

You know what annoys me the most about all this…

Im sure Anet has data on how many Guilds there are, and how much influence they have, and would have set the entry cost at what they thought achievable for the majority, based on their data.

Or, another way of looking at it, they purposely chose to isolate a fraction of their community from enjoying this content.

Nine new windows, and the new achievement – very funny!

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember reading something along the same lines – that if you choose to do more, you will get bonus rewards

There is one thing about being excited about an update and disappointed, which seems for me at least, an increasingly common theme in this game, but surely we can get a change of mechanics for the ‘big’ events at some point? Plz?

I am talking about the ‘Kill Invaders’ part, which again involves camping one location, then spamming aoe to try and get credit for creatures that die the moment they spawn.

Well.. I’ll be frank and honest..

Well.. I’ll be frank and honest..LFGuild that will be running Guild Events. Don’t care for your name, rep, members, association, play style, ts3, mumble, age, if you are friends irl, where you are from, etc etc. I simply want the reward. I will attend the event, rep, and leave. You wont see me till I want to farm the next event for rewards.

Well.. I’ll be frank and honest..LFGuild that will be running Guild Events. Don’t care for your name, rep, members, association, play style, ts3, mumble, age, if you are friends irl, where you are from, etc etc. I simply want the reward. I will attend the event, rep, and leave. You wont see me till I want to farm the next event for rewards.Way to go for building ‘Community’ anet…

Wow.. nobody updated this thread for almost a month!? Probably coz there is way too much happenin over on www.auroraglade.eu

Wow.. nobody updated this thread for almost a month!? Probably coz there is way too much happenin over on www.auroraglade.euNo doubt, one of the best community sites for GW of any server

Amigos… appreciate this is an open forum, but this thread isnt anything more than an announcement thread on upcomming events for the AG server.

Plz save your comments for other threads. Thx for the bump though

Tonight Aurora Glade we unite once more!
Server wide initiative, all welcome to participate.
Full details, www.auroraglade.eu

Broke the 500 members mark!
Gratz to all

Looking at my post previous post we have taken 100 new members in 5 days!

This huge jump coming up from AG is a straight up numbers thang much more than it is a teamwork/play style change I agree there.

Last week we dropped an entire rank and Tier only by a margin of 0.14% or we would have held our position for the first time since we dived. That shows improvement.

This week the match is unbalanced, and not helped in the slightest by KISS jumping over. The way the system works doesnt account for migration like this, so we benefit, GH loses. The result is our average rating gets artificially inflated and we look far better than we are. We will suffer horribly for it next week.

Nope. I never claimed 5 days. I never claimed any time frame.
And I can only speak for the last 3 weeks since I became involved on the AG community site. But in those 3 weeks I have seen advancements in teamwork and coordination, and two server wide Operations (of which I helped plan).

I am also big on numbers and have all the graphs and tables and charts. I have also spoke negatively about AG and the last 6 weeks, where we bounced between 18 and 19 positions.

This week we are set to jump by 3 places, and hopefully the week after that, settle into middle Tier 6.
Based on the last 6 weeks, and the future predictions for the next two. Something has to have changed (either in our own server, or all the enemy servers we have played). Its crazy to expect every other server to have changed, therfore it must be AG that have changed and improved. And this has to have happened recently, as like we agree the MOS graphes dont lie

Whilst I agree with some points made in this thread, it is unfair to think AG’s building success is down to simply other Guilds jumping to us.

We have been making good progress with our coummity site, getting people involved and working together. UNITY’s open mic night – inviting every www player to join them on a community mumble – has gone a good way to proving this.

People talk of our night caps, and the graphes from MOS dont lie, we do have a good night cap team, but often UNITY events start at 11pm, rolling through to 2am, 3am. This added to the open mic communication makes for an effective fighting force on a late evening/early morn. Not simply numbers, but good teamwork

Like I say, a 2v1 sounds good, IF the battle would end 1st and 2nd place. But it doesnt. It ends 1/2/3.

If 2 servers united, one of them would still end in 3rd place, and their score would be LOSS v A, LOSS v B. The worst possible outcome.

In such an alliance, the first server to stab the other in the back would be guarenteed 2nd place.

And yeah, this week for me (as an AG) was been boring due to the unbalance. I feel for you guys.

There is a sticky thread that goes into detail on how scoring is worked out.
From that list though, the Tier 4 is losing position because their ranking suggests they should be doing better than they are. The fight(points gap) is too close/small.

Yak started the week over 160pts in rating higher than their rivals, in terms of game points the gap would be expected to be 60k for example. The actual game score is only +7k/9k, suggesting Yak are under performing against a technicaly weaker opponents

Gladians!
Its been a great week, now it can be the best possible end.
A new Operation has been planned and announced over at our Community Site.
Check it out and join in!

Alliances, and 2v1 are all great in theory, but it all depends what you wish to achieve.
Ratings are based on maths and are 3 way battles. Servers are scored AvB and AvC.

There comes a time when attacking the leader becomes less important than picking up points against the 2nd/3rd place.

Regardless of diplomacy, the match will always finish 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Welcome back GH, hope y’all sort your issues out.
Greetings RoF, nice jump, now you will see a real fight
AG, our only danger is getting complacent, we still need our fighters on the battlefield.

Pretty much a one horse race this week though. Its over before it begins. AG back to Tier 6 at end of the week. Still, doesnt mean we cant be noble in battle.
Play fair, fight bravely, die with honour (and that means NO ALTf4 )

All AG Players – we are looking to put together a promotional video for our server (maybe even a series of videos) and we need your suggestions, help and input.

The thread can be found on the Community site www.auroraglade.eu

Thanks for the fight AM/JS.. chat here has been a little slow all week, probably something to do with the language barrier

Real shame about the AM players hacking, it is only a small group but it does reflect badly on your server as a whole.

AG players dont forget to attend the Community Meet in Mumble tonight for the start of the next match up.

Get ready AM and JS.. its 60 minutes till it Operation Sparta goes down, along with all your camps, towers and keeps.

Gladians unite!!
www.auroraglade.eu

T-minus 9hrs.
AG are going to rip this up!

Yes.
Aurora Glade. They annoy me, but I love them.
I think Gladians have an edge over most servers when it comes to community. We have an excellent website, with a dedicated team, through which we are really starting to come together.
I have server pride in the community we are creating and the team work that is developing from this. It may take a few weeks more, but AG will begin to rise up the www table, and we are definately a server to watch

Congrats to our 400th member!
And almost 15oo posts.

If you are on Aurora Glade and havent signed up yet, you are missing out.
Big plans for the server in the works, will have an announcement hopefully in the next few days..

FTG!

INCOMMING EVENT DECEMBER 5th
Full details on our community site
www.auroraglade.eu

Hey, sorry I missed this thread. Thanks for the feedback.

As one of the people behind the organisation of Operation Triumph, I salute you and your server, and WR, for coming out in force to show us all what a real www brawl could be.

We decided to publicaly announce this event as the week looked more or less over, with AG points ahead. It would have been a shame to just let that last couple of days of what was a good fight, just pitter out to nothing.

Glad it worked to bring the Gunners out fighting. From AG side, we had queues for two maps, which rarely happens.

/salute

The Glade and the Jade Sea should stop slogging it out between ourselves and hit the Abaddons in the proverbial ‘mouth’ before they get an unattainable lead.

I wont lie, I think we (Aurora Glade) are punching above our weight here, its not going to be a good week for us.
Both JS and AM have better table standings and history than AG.

If there is any hope it lies with community action over at www.auroraglade.eu. We have the tools in place, and a few good men (and women), but still seem to be unable to mobilise the zerg into any real form. For all the spirit of Gladians, we do seem to be our own worst enemy sometimes.

It has been a good week, good match. I dont think the numbers really reflect the action, felt a lot closer at times.

Operation Triumph was excellent to see all 3 servers come out for the fight. GL to GH and WR, I am sure we will meet again at somepoint.

AG peeps, if you can, please try and get on the Community mumble tonight. Full details on www.auroraglade.eu
And tomorrow, 1pm EST, ‘Blood Always Spills’ will be running WWW Training / Boot camps, with everyone welcome to attend.

Those of you who play support/healer builds will now what I mean

I play a Guardian, my aoe heal ticks nicely, my #6 heal effects friendly players, my weapons have 30% chance to heal nearby friendly, and even my roll into/out of combat triggers a heal.

All in all I deliver maybe 4 times as much in heal than I do in damage, and thats not taking into account my other support skills.

It was mentioned a long time ago in a post on the Dynamic Events thread that they were looking into ways of improving reward credit for support focussed players.
SWTOR introduced a nice system which rewarded the dedicated healer, if the person they were healing, scored a kill at the time they were recieving aid.

Any news on what happened to the ‘looking into it’?

Not all players sit in one area and farm… some of us enjoy the game
I would love to see mini games added, with rewards or not.

Cosmetic rewards could be easilly added, Target Shootout for example earn tokens, buy town clothes only available from there.

To all AG / WR /GH,

Thankyou for turning out in great numbers for last nights event. Regardless of the colour you fought for, it was a pleasure to watch several hundred dedicated people.

/salute to all brave fighters, Red, Blue and of course Green

Aurora Glade.
We are middle bottom of the table but, like the Cylons, we have a plan…

And it all starts with a community – www.auroraglade.eu
We are bringing together all our fractured guilds, for cooperation. We have skilled leaders, field commanders and brave fighters. What we didnt have was a joint plan. We do now, or rather we are working on one, every day.

We have non EU guilds fighting for us now, your presence would reinforce these guys and give Aurora Glade a 24hr fighting force.

The rest of the servers, have spirit, and their own dedicated players, we salute and respect that, but they are not the Glade, and Aurorians are set to rise.

If you are looking for a proactive server, set on rising up the charts through skill and dedicated teamwork. Look no further than Aurora Glade. But no need to take my word for it, www.auroraglade.eu is free to sign up. Have a look on there and you will see, that you can make a real difference, and earn the respect you deserve for your efforts.

Final update has been posted on our community site
www.auroraglade.eu

Good luck to everyone taking part in tonights action. Fight bravely, and fairly, my fellow Gladians, and I will see you on the battlefield!!

Well.. all else aside, I hope everyone is ready for a good fight tonight.

Well.. all else aside, I hope everyone is ready for a good fight tonight.AG players, the final update has been posted on tonights action, over on our community site.
Our opponents: What ever the outcome, it has been a pleasure

Aurora Glade players,
Our plans are starting to take shape. Check out our Community Forum, ‘Operation Triumph’ thread. Still plenty of time to get involved. Lets make this an event to rememeber.

Noble enemy,
Fight brave, die brave. We all agree, numbers in www are very unbalanced and unfair, but we can still enjoy the fight, even if the war sucks

Jefzor.. this event tonight will go someway to solving those problems.
Several Commanders have volunteered to lead tonight, and I know UNITY will be out in full force as they have the announcement on their homepage.

Jefzor.. this event tonight will go someway to solving those problems.
Several Commanders have volunteered to lead tonight, and I know UNITY will be out in full force as they have the announcement on their homepage.You are correct, we do compensate for lack of organisation. Tonight will attempt to help correct that.

If last night was good, tonight should be better.
We got a surprise for y’all from the Glade

@Jupitus (and our current opponents) – thx. I hope this rallies your own sides, for all this planning we would hate to have nobody to fight against.

Fellow AG – I will be updating this thread and the one over at www.auroraglade.eu as the day goes on. Stay tuned

Some good fights tonights.
WH when your back is against the wall, its good to see you come out all guns blazing. Credit to you guys.

The Glade however, has something planned y’all might like.
Fellow Aurora Glade, dont miss out. Check out our community site for a treat.
www.auroraglade.eu

Operation Triumph
Join the Glade for a major WWW operation on the evening of Wednesday 28th November.
Players of all skills and standing required to join in a server wide event. We need volunteers to join the ranks of our Commanders, as well as leaders for small raid style actions.

Full details will be disclosed closer to event, but keep an eye on chat during the course of the day. This event will be supported by major AG WWW Guilds and will be coordinated via a dedicated Mumble client.

This is our week for victory in WWW, we have a large lead over both our opponents. It is an ideal time for veterans to practice and perfect strategies and for newcomer’s to try out the game in a safer (than normal) environment.

The Glade needs you for action!
Our time is now

For more info -
www.auroraglade.eu
or message me

For all the back and forth, the numbers dont lie. This has been a bit of a one dog race so far.. some good fights yeah, but the war belongs to AG.

Best part is the Glade hasnt even begun to mobilise properly yet.. Gladians – we need you over at www.auroraglade.eu
Especially Guild Leaders, get involved with our coming plans

Im hoping someone can help here…
Does anyone know of any good places that discuss the actual mechanics/spawn timers etc of WWW? In particular looking for info on the following,

Scoring: Is it trickle, or are points added when the clock reaches 15.00?
If it straight 15, then it would make sense to cap at 14.59, and lose 15.01

Supplies: at resource camps, how often do they generate (10 every minute?)

Doylak: kill one off, and how long till it respawns? Also how many resources fo they carry (100?).

Thanks!