Guild Wars 2

The Lionheart.3726:

Not gonna lie, Edwin. That actually sounds very believable and ties events together in a clear and logical manner.
Unfortunately I’m forced to side with Swizzle and Zayd here, since Arenanet’s respect for its own lore is… less than stellar.

Who knows though for sure, Everyone said the same thing about Sylvari being minions of the unknown (at the time) dragon.

Swizzle.7982:

It makes sense, which is probably why it won’t be what happened at all.

Guild Wars lore in a single sentence.

Just gonna put this here; It’s from the “tarir city” post in HoT gen forum.

“EdwinLi.1284:
Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.
Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.
Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.”

Any of you lore masters know of anything that pokes holes in this theory?

Blockhead Magee.3092:

With the same writing team involved in the expansion that were behind the Scarlet fiasco, I don’t expect much quality or consistency in any of the stories.

As long as there are new maps to explore (more than a few dang nab it!), mechanics of the fights are good and the new WvW map rocks – this’ll be a fine expansion.

They hired a .. um I forget what she is; lore continuity director? something like that, basically its her job to know everything about the history and lore of the gw universe and then direct the story of gw2 from there.
She wasnt around for the scarlet stuff, at least not to my knowledge.
So they don’t really have any excuses left…

EdwinLi.1284:

Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.

Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.

Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.

This makes the most sense to me, but I’m no expert on pre-searing lore.

Well, no one knows where they are; except perhaps Rytlock, hence him being blind now, and being as how Rytlock isnt exactly a human-god lover, and the human gods arent exactly charr lovers… I don’t see him putting in any good words.

I think some sylvari don’t even believe that the human gods are real. It’s definitely a chat option for a sylvari when talking to some human farmer in queensdale near beetleton. She talks all zealotly, and you have the option to tell her you don’t believe in the human gods.

Besides that though, the human gods ran away because of the dragons, they believe in “non-interference” now, I doubt some dragon breed is gonna make melandru sway from that ideology.

That’s just the way sylvari are; you’ll get used to it.

To be fair; the personal story is over. This is the living story, which is a story about the world.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Living_World_season_1

This has all the info you’ll need (if in a more unentertaining media).

There is a list on the right that shows all the releases from season 1 in order, you should be able to match each release name to the name of the video wooden potatoes made about it.

Some releases are just holidays, where nothing about the story really progresses. (except dragonbash).

Anet cant get a hold of Caithes voice actor to do any new voice acting so she was muted and tossed into the shadows, just like Zojja.

anything that is optional that requires jumping puzzles doesn’t make EVERYTHING suddenly need jumping puzzles. Just because its something you want doesn’t mean that it’s ‘everything’. the coins, and the back piece are clearly optional. Don’t want to jump? then don’t get them.

Zomaarwat.3912:

>Some like the idea of their disability and personal standing being represented, but I myself do not like them at all because at the core of its universe guild wars is a FANTASY setting where by the problems of REAL LIFE should NOT apply to people in the same way it does in a virtual game that has no relevance on reality.

>the fact she has a Golem to fix it actually makes it worse because by that definition your giving false hope to the physically impaired by making the character into a paragon.

Careful, you’re tripping over yourself.
Also: physically crippled =/= mentally crippled

To me, it just sounds like youre upset that there is a character that happens to be disabled in the story, and this character’s disability reminds you of your own disabilities, and so this makes you upset that you are reminded of your own hardships in RL. I can see how this (and every time taimi is shown) would continuously break the 4rth wall, and stop all immersion for you.

However, given all that. The game is catered to the masses, and a disabled character being a “trigger” for you is no reason to stop representing disabled people in this fantasy world.

I also feel that taimi’s disability is in no way a focus of her character. In fact, her disability was only ever referenced or seriously talked about ONCE iirc in the whole living story, way back in season one with the edge of the mists episode.
Taimi’ is an asuran prodigy, smart, smug, easily excitable, and snarky.
She just happens to be disabled, her disability doesn’t define her.

Primodius has been ravaging the tengu behind the walls for the last 200 years. They even shot at US when scarlet attacked lions arch.
I doubt theyll care at all about mordremoth.

It only makes sense given that they were exiled from their homelands and hunted and warred with for thousands of years in cantha.

ghtchill.7613:

Interesting. Perhaps Braham gets taken out while saving Taimi, possibly in a history repeating itself scenario. Eir apparently couldn’t save another Asura (cant remember the name) with Destiny’s Edge, perhaps this time her son does save Taimi, but doesn’t make it out alive? Just a thought…

The other scene seems to feature a group of 5 players. Possibly open world, or even dungeon type instance requiring a 5 man group?

How dare you not know who Snaff is.
Go read a book!

I have to admit, the mechanical switching noise for the lights going out in the omphalos chamber seem reeeeaaaallly off. more like completely off.
The grove doesnt have any electrical do-whatties at all, in any area from what i remember. Its all bioluminescence. Not even any magi-tech, save for the waypoints and portal gate.
Mark has been missed.
An alternative would have been the bioluminescence could have got a little bit brighter and then faded out very quickly, along with any flowers or plants in the shot closing up or turning a darker ilky green from mordy corruption.

A lot of people actually prefer that it port them back to where they originally used the home portal stone.

Lots of people have harvestable things in their home instance that they can collect from and other do-whattees there, so the sotne is nice for them to quickly port there, do their thang, and then port back to where they are.

The stone was never meant to be a means of free transportation to your capital city, that would be pointless, just waypoint.

Fuiltech.6438:

Just going to throw this out there and maybe Caithe has encountered Mordremoth before we “knew” of his existence. It could also be that during Caithe’s encounter with Mordremoth she became his champion (whether voluntarily or otherwise [if it was voluntary it would make sense as to why it would be “nasty”]). It could be something that Scarlet saw in Omadd’s machine as we are not sure if what we saw and she saw are the same thing. Then, perhaps, the Pale Tree is actually unaware of it.

I don’t know if that is something worth discussing or not but figured I would toss it out there.

everything scarlet saw in the machine is detailed in one of the blogs Anet posted about half a year ago, if not more.
She didnt see caithe becoming mordy’s champ, plus that would be silly considering Scarlet herself was a pawn of mordy in the first place.

RedStar.4218:

Erukk.1408:

RedStar.4218:

Yeah she only says that line to Sylvari, yet every other race also saw her at the center of the Eternal Alchemy and she isn’t protecting them.

That entire scene wasn’t too good. But the “(gasp) no !” is still priceless.

This was kinda answered in the “not Sylvari” dialogue…

Pale Tree: What dangers have you been toying with? Such things were not meant to be seen. They will crack your mind.
Player: I didn’t understand much of the vision, but you were at the center.
Pale Tree: If this was the device that Ceara used, then it must have maintained some of her touch upon it. But, I do not know what it could mean. Only you can know that.

It could be taken a number of ways, but I’m guessing it might just boil down to, “We might have seen a part of the Eternal Alchemy, but more importantly, we saw Scarlet’s version of it.”

That doesn’t make things better >.> If you’re a Sylvari “you saw me because I protect you” and if you’re a human “You saw me because…I don’t know”.

But I agree with you, the best way to get some sense out of it is “we saw what Scarlet saw, nothing more”.

I think the pale tree is just a flat out liar. The convo with her no matter what race you were was just all kinds of suspicious. She’s a liar i tells yah.

Eluveitie.1290:

Corruption is not a source of magic, but correct me if it’s wrong.

I think you are correct. The elder dragons cannot feed off of the corruption they leave behind, even if it is left by another dragon.

also. brand = corrupted, corrupted =/= magic (at least not “good” magic that the dragons thirst for)

Just to clear things up.

lakdav.3694:

Am i the only one who got an ominous vibe from the Pale Tree suggesting a summit, right there in HER planty place (close to the source of and thematicly similar to Mordremoth), with ALL the world leaders? Last time i checked sylvari were getting a bit of hate and distrust from the others, after Scarlet and now Aerin. Add the feeling that the pale tree is not telling things that she knows. Why didnt anyone raise a brow at this in the story?

Im not beating the dead horse of ‘sylvari=Mordrem’, i dont belive that is the case, but i figured that at least someone in the world would have doubts about this.

Another thing, Jennah seemed to have agreed so easily. To Kasmeer. Through Anise. …Right. 10 golds that its going to be another illusion.

Lastly… Im kinda worried about the placement of all these events. With the massive spread, it is pretty much assured that everyone playing through would use Waypoints.
Now, asura magic aside (that is volatile at its best at times), the whole waypoint system is assaulted by dragonic energies, and Taimi’s recalibrator thingy. If waypoints are such an integral part of the lore, why doesnt anyone seem to be bothered by this?

The pale tree is… well… a tree. The white flower we all talk to is just her Avatar, and as far as we’ve seen, her avatar cant move from that place she is at in the omphalos chamber. The only time we’ve seen the pale tree move at all was in the personal story when she took us to Orr, but that was in a vision, and she wasn’t really there. She hadnt really left her spot in the omphalos chamber.

How do you expect her to talk to all the leaders of the races without the ability to move, if she cant invite everyone to come see her?

nosleepdemon.1368:

• the encounter with the Sylvari leader (world tree mother or whatever her name is) who appears to know about the dragon, and yet never volunteered any information to anyone (despite world encompassing events occurring around her).

The pale tree was acting like that because she is a big fat liar full of secrets and more lies.
Everyone knows that she knows more than anyone else about the whole dragons situation, especially with mordremoth. She just wont tell anyone because its prolly something that we all really don’t want to hear, or shouldn’t hear.

I’m gonna rage if she doesn’t tell us during the summit…

Ravion Hawk.4736:

Zayd Akira.1942:

It’s just honest advice. MMORPG has ‘massively multiplayer’ in it for a reason, and its not just so we can stand around in towns and gab. I think its perfectly reasonable to expect that by the time someone is at this stage of the living story, that they have a few friends, and a guild whom can help them out. Heck; its not even that hard to join a guild, there are so many recruiting and many will bend over backwards for you just to get you to join them.

You do realize that the Guild Wars franchise is supported by the casual gamer that likes to have the Multiplayer option, but normally plays solo due to real life. Not everyone is here to make friends and join guilds.

Enough of that part of the argument though.

You OBVIOUSLY missed what the biggest deal WILL be later on. Paying REAL MONEY to unlock the Living Story parts well after they are over and getting blocked by a World Group Event that can’t be done because no one else wants to do it anymore. Or worse, players “Sell” their groups just like players “Sell” Arah including “Victory or Death” which will in turn upset someone who paid a lot of money for content that can not be played.

How much does that price tag have to be for it to sink in? Make it 20 Living Story chapters and you got roughly the same price tag as an expansion ($50) that you get stopped at the third chapter. That is 85% of roughly an expansion that you paid for that you can’t play.

I have 10 characters WAITING for Arah. And yes I’m upset that I paid for this game to have the last part of the main story gated by a dungeon that gets sold by players which ANet refuses to ban. But if I were to miss $25-$50 worth of Living Story and get stuck 3 chapters in because it can’t be solo’d since no one wants to do it anymore, I’d be FURIOUS!!!

woooaaaahhhh. Calm down, mate. First off, I don’t like your tone :P. I responded pretty calmly and honestly and you just go and ALL CAPS me like this, brah? Calm it.

Next, I feel the argument of content being locked behind a “possible impassable” part in episode 3 of season 2 was answered by my comments about LFG and guilds, but if we must consider the die-hard solo player: They are open world events, they scale to who ever is there. If you are the only one there, i think you can win it. It’ll be difficult, of course, but it is solo-able. That’s the point of the scaling of events in the first place.

And before you even try to say that they’re too hard to solo, you have no proof they are, and neither do i have proof that they aren’t. Only time will tell

Next, you talk about those awful people whom sell dungeon runs for money. I agree, that’s wrong, and they should be banned. But isn’t that point a bit counter to having everything instanced? It would be a lot easier to sell if it were instanced, if you ask me; while in the open world there is still that chance of others walking by and helping out.

If we are so worried about players getting trapped and stuck behind content that is too hard, instead of challenging; then getting rid of the open world sequences isn’t the answer. It doesn’t even have to deal with the same issue.

Jaken.6801:

Okay, i have still not finished through it, but I can really understand all your sentiments, since this is something i somehow expected from this episode (thanks to a bug i was unable to continue, will do so tommorow when i have time)

However, this Season 2`s writing feels more and more like a checklist they are ticking off.

It all sounds like: "And then they go after the roar, the roar is Mordremoth, then they find one of Scarlets lair and a ley line and then they find the big machine of omadd. the PC goes 2001: A Space Odysee. Oh and Belinda dies, since Majory is too kitten and is upstaging the PC, then Mordremoth attacks the Charr,.. but no, we cannot use the pact. We allready did combine the orders, lets go bigger.. Lets go and combine all greater races… yeah that will be the task to fight the next eldar dragon…

Seriously… do they know no pacing? The whole thing rushes through plotpoints like my Great Sword 1 pew pew through enemy lines… (Mesmer naturally, though i never use a GS).
I know we said Season 1 was to slow, but you do not have to go into overdrive now…

They are hyping us with trailers and possible mysteries, only to shrug them off in the next minute.

They jump through the story, skipping very important parts, like a jackrabbit only to push from one “epic” part to the next.

While the art direction and overall event design is great, the writing so far is hard to justify.

There are a lot of things, that you have allready said.
At this point i wish even the biconics gone completly, since I feel they are holding the PC back, then actually helping him (Though the pale tree said that we will do greater things then with Destiny`s Edge… Well nope, i thankfully decline that).

They established that everything happens after we are basicly a seasoned dragon fighting veteran and they still thread us and the whole world as stupid uncaring people…

I do not know, i just feel frustrated at the moment.
Maybe just because S2E1 was great and now the whole thing crumbled in just two episodes and now they are doing a mid season break, which measn we only got three episodes left?

While i do not expect the writers to say anything in that regard (they are only human after all and they have enough on their table allready), i just hope they really take all the crictic here and do something with it.
I mean it becomes hard to keep invested…

There will be one more episode released before the mid-season break, meaning there are 5 episodes left.

Erukk.1408:

Well… Rytlock is officially written out of the story now. For at least awhile anyway. He’s off to go on some wacky adventures in the Mists I guess.

As for the writing, I would definitely consider it a bit subpar, especially when judging it against the previous two episodes. I guess this has something to do with the different development teams they have working on the LS. The differences between the two groups, if that’s what happening, was a bit jarring to say the least.

My one huge critique of this episode was the seemingly total lack of urgency. The episode was about this huge threat to the entirety of Tyria slowly expanding over the land, and the dialogue, to me, didn’t really reflect that at all. That, as well as the events needed to complete the different parts, seemed to read more along the lines of “a calm stroll in the park” on the urgency scale.

• It’s nice for the Pale Tree to host the summit, even though she is obviously holding a lot secrets. Secrets that could have helped a lot of people if her actually put the information forward. I certainly hope she shared some of that information with at least Trahearne. You know, her trusted son, leader of the allied forces that deals with these sorts of things?

• Asuran bureaucracy I can understand, and its horribly sad that I have to agree with Phlunt of all people. Two weeks!? I know they are trying to sync it up with real time, but my character didn’t seem to bat an eyelash at that. Two weeks was enough time for Mordy to cross most of Tyria and ripe apart two forts, and add two weeks more, he seems to be doing a hostile invasion of the Iron Marches now. Two weeks is a long time, and my character should be deeply frustrated when hearing that.

• No human part at all.

• The Norn segment can probably be summed up with, “Let me and my son have an awkward off-screen family moment while you’re off to do a meta. It’s ok. There’s no rush.”
• The first part of the Charr segment read the same. Rytlock supposedly poured all this time into researching how to break the curse, yet he couldn’t seem to be bothered to finalize it by finding the last parts of the crown. While I didn’t mind going out to do the events, I don’t really think they belong as parts of the main story that way. Running up and looting a rubble pile, which I did for Bria’s part since it finished before I got there, isn’t all that heroic.

• I liked the second part, other than maybe the finale. Rytlock getting basically written off was foreseen by a couple people in the forums already, so it wasn’t that big of a surprise, but the acceptance on Rox and Smodur’s part was a bit off putting. Rytlock just flung himself who knows where into the Mists, and they just kinda accepted the whole situation without too many hard feelings. For all we know, he could have got dropped into a volcano fractual, getting torn apart by steam creatures, or maybe he got dropped into a reality where matter doesn’t exist. Because in the Mist, anything is possible!

In the end, my character has to twiddle his thumbs for two weeks canon time waiting for Taimi’s device and the summit to begin. All the while, Mordremoth is expanding at a fast rate, and it’s literally tearing up the countryside and killing who knows how many people…

On a side note, how many people want to bet Rytlock is somehow going to wind up in the Underworld? Because I can see them pulling Rurik’s ghost back to have a “touching” reunion with his father and possibly end the curse.

Watch the finale cutscene again. Its hard to hear, I only just noticed when i watched it a second time and the sound to the cutscene was muted because i was dead.
You’ll notice that after Rytlock says he has to go get the sword, Smodur yells at Rytlock and tells him to “Go” into the hole after his sword.
I think it would have been cliche if Smodur or Rox were all torn up at Rytlock jumping into the mists. Smodur takes it like a champ, but if you talk to Rox, you can tell shes a little shaken, but knows rytlock and hold his own.
I think it all fit pretty well.
We gotta remember, these are the Charr. Victory or death has been ingrained in them for the last milennia and they know that that sword is their one chance at victory against the foefire curse.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I agree Konig. And what was the deal with Whitebear being tied up with the Sons of Svanir? That camp is not really a fortress is it? We ran in there with about 4 people, no defenses to block us what so ever, used the crystal and instantly shattered it, and it was done in just a few seconds. Is this the huge problem that was keeping Whitebear from attending the summit? If so, can we vote for a new Norn leader?

There was supposed to be a pretty lengthy event chain that leads to blowing open the doors to the fortress, and a LOT of champion spawns before you can destroy the totem.

From the sounds of it, you got in right as the event finished.

Pretty unfortunate.

runeblade.7514:

Taimi: There you are. Got all the parts? Lemme hop onto Scruffy and make the finishing touches.
Taimi: Well, Councillor Phlunt, I’m sorry to report that I’ve completely wasted your time and the waypoints will now be destroyed by Mordremoth.
Councillor Phlunt: What?
Taimi: Just kidding. My patent-pending waypoint recalibration device is now complete.

I didn’t care about Taimi before, but this line made me jump into the Taimi ship.

I was hoping she was serious. PLOT TWIST!

Ariella Goldstein.3562:

Zayd Akira.1942:

Ravion Hawk.4736:

Katai.6240:

I don’t understand why everyone wants everything to be instanced. It sort of takes away the point of being an MMO, doesn’kitten

Let’s put it in different terms…

You buy GW2 about 6 months to a year from now.

You break out the credit card and get yourself 2000 Gems ($25) and unlock 10 chapters of Living Story Season 2.

Chapters 1 and 2 are ok since those chapters can be completely solo’d.

Now you are on Chapter 3 and you have to do Open World Group Event stuff to progress any further.

NOBODY is playing LS: S2: C3 and trolls just pop up and scale up the events.

You spend another 6 months STUCK on this part.

You paid for Chapters 1 through 10 and you can’t get past chapter 3 because it is Open World Group instead of instanced for solo play.

It is like buying an expansion and getting 20% of the expansion done and not being able to see the rest of what you bought because you NEED other players to help you and they are playing the rest of the game elsewhere. Most likely champ farming in Frostgorge Sound, Kessex Hills, or Edge of the Mists. Or just farming Cursed Shore.

Now you tell me that won’t leave a bad taste in your mouth. Remember, for this example you PAID for the content instead of grinding out the gold to convert to gems and obviously you didn’t log in during the FREE time since you just bought the game AFTER Living Story Season 2 ended.

Its not a bad thing that it cant be soloed. LFG tool is there, they can use that, also, not to mention that by the time it is 6 months from now and that person has just bought gw2, add more time for them leveling to 80, surely they would have gotten a guild or a few friends by then that can help you. if not, then like i said, there is LFG.

There are plenty of other MMOs that have “walls” that keep players from progressing past a certain point if they dont find a group and work cooperatively to complete the content that is preventing them from progressing,. it is the nature of an MMO to work with other people. If you dont want to work with other people, then you’re not playing the right genre, go play a single player RPG.

GW2 isn’t other MMOs, and another thing, would you people please stop telling the rest of us how to play the game. It’s insulting.

The concerns are valid, but all these concerns get in response is “go play a single player game.” Yes you can LFG, but by the time the majority of season 2 is past, it’s going to be a lot harder to get a group that’s interested. It’s the same with the PS and the final push on Zhaitan.

It’s just honest advice. MMORPG has ‘massively multiplayer’ in it for a reason, and its not just so we can stand around in towns and gab. I think its perfectly reasonable to expect that by the time someone is at this stage of the living story, that they have a few friends, and a guild whom can help them out. Heck; its not even that hard to join a guild, there are so many recruiting and many will bend over backwards for you just to get you to join them.

The episode had a good balance between story-driven instanced content, and open world events, and it did it in a way that they were connected to each other. Though the open world events aren’t dependent on the story instances, so people whom haven’t done those story instances can still participate in the events and not feel completely lost.

Were there no glitches, i think the bulk of the complaints would be how zergy it is in open world. (which i agree with, though i admit that the zergs will be gone in a few weeks and it will be pretty sweet).

They were working on maguuma last night,

Ravion Hawk.4736:

Katai.6240:

I don’t understand why everyone wants everything to be instanced. It sort of takes away the point of being an MMO, doesn’kitten

Let’s put it in different terms…

You buy GW2 about 6 months to a year from now.

You break out the credit card and get yourself 2000 Gems ($25) and unlock 10 chapters of Living Story Season 2.

Chapters 1 and 2 are ok since those chapters can be completely solo’d.

Now you are on Chapter 3 and you have to do Open World Group Event stuff to progress any further.

NOBODY is playing LS: S2: C3 and trolls just pop up and scale up the events.

You spend another 6 months STUCK on this part.

You paid for Chapters 1 through 10 and you can’t get past chapter 3 because it is Open World Group instead of instanced for solo play.

It is like buying an expansion and getting 20% of the expansion done and not being able to see the rest of what you bought because you NEED other players to help you and they are playing the rest of the game elsewhere. Most likely champ farming in Frostgorge Sound, Kessex Hills, or Edge of the Mists. Or just farming Cursed Shore.

Now you tell me that won’t leave a bad taste in your mouth. Remember, for this example you PAID for the content instead of grinding out the gold to convert to gems and obviously you didn’t log in during the FREE time since you just bought the game AFTER Living Story Season 2 ended.

Its not a bad thing that it cant be soloed. LFG tool is there, they ckittene that, also, not to mention that by the time it is 6 months from now and that person has just bought gw2, add more time for them leveling to 80, surely they would have gotten a guild or a few friends by then that can help you. if not, then like i said, there is LFG.

There are plenty of other MMOs that have “walls” that keep players from progressing past a certain point if they dont find a group and work cooperatively to complete the content that is preventing them from progressing,. it is the nature of an MMO to work with other people. If you dont want to work with other people, then you’re not playing the right genre, go play a single player RPG.

One of the writers for Anet admitted that the jump to accusing mordremoth and knowing his name all of a sudden was, well; a jump. I can quote him as saying “lesson learned”. I think it was bobby? Cant ’t remember.

As for the other stuff. Not everything is doom and gloom, if it were, it would be pretty depressing and a very monotonous story. When kasmeer said she wanted to get to know marjories sister, it was in a setting where they were safe, and they were under the impression that fort salma wasnt being obliterated, nor concordia. Also, she has a rather bubbly personality and she is pretty ditzy, and easily distracted, so its easy for her to put things so important somewhere else in exchange for some more bubbly. That kitten alcoholic!

Also considering taimi’s constant snark, and seeing as scarlet is her greatest hero, its not surprising she said what she said at the prospect of having to leave the very machine that created the persona that she admires so much. Also, considering her progeny status, and constant having to maneuver around the guardianship of rata sum, its no wonder she was a bit snappy at the hint of some one telling her to go do something she doesn’t want to do. she was the same way in living story season 1 when braham kept trying to take her back to rata sum.

Im glad they went the way they did. The foefire curse shouldnt have been broken as a retaliation of an elder dragon. It needs to be its own focus, with its own lengthy convoluted storyline and heroes of its own.

Not some kind of double episode featurette. that would make the 250 years of foefire suffering just summed up and solved in a month pretty non-climactic, and not representative of the actual amount of strife the foefire curse causes everyone in the area of ascalon.

I would have enjoyed the open world parts if there was maybe 5 – 10 – 20 people doing it all together, and not 100 people like there will be for the next few weeks.

the zergs just make it really impersonal, break immersion, and remove any kind of difficulty.

RyuDragnier.9476:

The only problem I really have with this episode is the open world events. That’s it, and only because you could be there for the event, yet not do enough damage to get credit (due to zerg mania) and have to do it again. We should be escaping from Zergs Anet, not enforcing them.

Judging from the way the events seem to me, and the dialogue of the NPCs (eir saying we’ll do it all alone etc.) i think they just gave up on finding a way to split up the zergs for the events, and just decided instead to build the events around the inescapable reality that in 2 to 4 weeks, not nearly as many people will be doing them. They’ll be much more enjoyable if played as intended, without the 100 man zergs.

daros.3407:

Katai.6240:

I don’t understand why everyone wants everything to be instanced. It sort of takes away the point of being an MMO, doesn’kitten

Becouse if you want to have qualite story telling you need to have instances. This open world content doesn’t provide what immersive story need.

Didn’t you get enough instanced storytelling via the actual instanced parts?
Not everything needs to have some 5 minute scripted intro with NPCs puking exposition left and right. I feel the mix of instance and open world was pretty fair and balanced in this episode.
If the zergs of 100s of people steamrolling the events weren’t there, i might have actually enjoyed it.
Anet should have planned for that.

Personally, i feel the link between the events and the living story wasn’t bad at all. and that i actually would have enjoyed them if there weren’t 100 other people running around during the events doing the same thing i was doing. It made it too easy, was zergy, and broke all immersion.

two or four weeks from now, barely anyone will be doing that portion of the story, and the events would have less traffic, and i can guarantee that it will be 100 times more fun to do those portions of the story then.

They are so rare and hard to obtain because they are supposed to be. If they had a 100% chance if you openend 225 chests or anything like that, then everyone would have one already, and the value of them would be significantly abysmal.
GW2 already has the problem that it is too easy to get some very good skins that SHOULD be rare, but arent.
Let these skins be rare. It makes it all the better whe nyou finally get it, and you can show it off to all the people who dont have it, but wanted it. (the only real point to getting skins)
Give up, or keep going, but dont whine and beg Anet to make it easier. Its working the way its supposed to work.

I just hope they find a solution to this problem. At the current rate of the living story, if they keep radding over top of everything but keeping the stuff from the living story, so it can be repeated too, it will end up like a weird hodge-podge of mix-matchy things that dont belong together.
Like a previous poster said “oh, over there is the destroyer stuff, and just across this road is the mordrem viney stuff, and over here you have some old stuff where the NPCs are STILL worrying about zhaitan” etc.

I agree that this is a problem, very akin to being a giant elephant in the room to all of us players. We all know its there, but we really don’t wanna acknowledge it.
It is unfortunate that in a tech sense, Anet cant do much else than what is already being done, however; I’m glad to hear that they haven’t given up on it.

I also agree with the earlier post acknowledging that if this problem were to be solved, the amount of freedom further granted to Anet in making the open world evolve with time would increase dramatically. So much more could be done! (without it also being completely immersion breaking for anyone leveling up from 1-80 or not being on that step of the living story yet)

In a thread a while ago, someone asked about what happened to peneloopee and bloomanoo, and an Anet staff member wrote back saying they escaped lions arch and were on their way to divinities reach, or someplace like that. Might have been fort salma.

This shows they weren’t shoehorned at least.

Maybe peneloopee and Bloomanoo will be the First Family, and breed a tribe of Quaggan that will rise up and join the sentient races in the fight against the elder dragons (thus becoming a playable race)?

I would laugh so hard!

I think Caithe might have become soudless per request of the pale tree so that the pale tree can have a little knight that can do all the secret things that pale tree sees that “need” to be done, but dont want the other sylvari to find out through the dream. (or, she just doesnt reveal any of that to anyone in the dream, ‘if she can control it like that’)

I have a feeling that her secret is that she killed Malyk when he left to go find his tree.
Think about it.
Malyk is not in the grove, or anywhere in game, which makes sense because in the personal story when you last see him, he says he is leaving to find where he came from.

But now that we have gone west, what do we find? an entire town that has only seen 1 sylvari before, Scarlet, and then we also find an entire tribe of Centaurs who don’t even know what sylvari are, let alone have seen one before (as a sylvari character, the chieftain of the centaurs asks you if you’re a nature spirit, and you have to explain to him what the sylvari are)
I don’t think Malyk ever made it out that far west, I think Caithe snuffed him out per request of the pale tree because of fear of what they might find.
Scarlet could have found out because i think around this time she was working out of her base in prosperity.

Doubt it. I can guarantee that the lockett was a trick clue.

The Eternal Alchemy doesn’t make the human gods or the norn spirits obsolete.
We know for a fact that the realms the human gods control are real. we’ve been there in gw1. Dwayna even controls a very specific realm which is equivalent to heaven, and thats where humans go for paradise and etc. etc. Because the eternal Alchemy is real doesnt mean that Dwayna and her paradise realm for dead humans isnt real. We know they are, from GW1.
The Eternal Alchemy just explains how the human gods fit into the universe, amoung other powerful beings like the pale tree, the dragons, and the norn spirits.

TakaYama.5394:

I think E is going to be Evennia. At least that is my hope. IT was hinted that she was involved in something much bigger. And we know Livia lived to be several hundred years old, so it might have been possible for Evennia as well. I don’t have much belief that this is true, but I will continue to hope. I want to know what became of her.

Livia lived so long without aging though because of the scepter of Orr, to which there are rumors that she did this by sacrificing prisoners in the catacombs of divinities reach/lons arch (cant remember which)
how would evennia live for so long?

It is the same for a sylvari character. My sylvari didn’t say anything about having connections with the pale tree, and even said “You think you could get us an audience with the pale tree??” like…. what is my sylvari talking about, of course he could go see his own dang mom without the help of kas, why did he say that.
It was definitely a weird transition that doesn’t make much sense, especially if you’re a sylvari character.

Rox’ eyes are a good example of a victim to the cutsey-lazer.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/57619/gw756.jpg

I still dont even really consider her a charr, i just pretend she doesnt exist at all.

Prolly dont need to come down to details of torture here.

Cmon, dont wanna get the thread closed.
For some reason a lot of people are missing that this is a DDoS attack and think the living story update is causing this. We gotta keep this thread alive to get the word out!

UPDATE The ‘hacker’ said on his twitter account that he is going to sleep. The servers should come back up soon, though, he said “Wilderstar servers probly gunna stay down” but i doubt it because they came back up after he went to sleep yesterday.

I hope they find this guy, also hope they penalize him by U.S. laws, since they’re stricter.
UK gives 10 years max for DDoS.
US has no maximum.
Its one thing to DDoS, but its another thing to be a kitteny kittennozzle about it too.

I dont know. Seems pretty legit to me, also ive been lurking his twitter and there are a bunch of other tech-savy peeps trying to track him and pin his location, but its taking a long time because hes got onion routing or some such thing.

I think its the real deal.

The twitter is obviously hacked, but the person behind it claiming responsibility seems to be legit.