Guild Wars 2

I see they still have not fixed this game.

I really see no point in playing, it is totally unplayable or ropy the best of times.

I shouldn’t have to look at my skill bar to see if the game is lagging.

My latency can be as low as 20ms but even in a good battle that sits around 50+.

My skill lag is all the time too regardless of latency. Skills that are ment to be instant cast are delayed. The cooldown on all my skills are 1 second longer then it’s ment to be, that’s 1000ms.

This game has always felt ropy to me and when you hit 80 and want to play things like wvw it’s such a let down. I’m so disappointed with this game, it’s so mediocre.

Sizer.5632:

Serious question here, did you not reallocate your traits after an update? I dont know if any recent patches did this, but big balance changes sometimes will reset your traits and you might not have noticed.

I did check this but it is all still in place.

My elementalist is my only main, my only high level 80 character. Since some changes a while ago that stopped me playing due technical problems in WvW I have not played. Maybe it’s just been a month, I cant really remember.

Anyway, before the WvW lag/patch problem I was having a lot of fun with my elementalist and felt like I was making good progress with creating gear and working on my gameplay. But after that update it would seem things have changed to the point I simply can not play on that same level anymore. I seem to be so squishy along with only setup for aoe and condition damage (might well be a bad spec) I seem unable to apply my self to the WvW battles without taking stupid amounts of damage.
Mybe I have broken my elementalist but I spec for survivability before anything else and go on the idea that group aoe will be our weapon…

Have I broken my elementalist or did something change?

I have stopped playing for now because of the lag.

Incase it helps…

I was for the first time seeing latency spikes to the server via a ping test outside of the games ping reading the other night 13/04/2015 (same night gta v got release). But before this I was having problems with skills loading and I was forced to check and look at the skill bar to see if things had worked (not fun or fast game play)

I also found that reseting the games setting also helped with mading the updates work for me. As in some of the things you added in the update didn’t seem to apply to my game. Also made the game perform better once I had changed my setting back to how I had them before.

I used this -prefreset to do it.

Good luck with fixing that.

This lag is just too much. I’m going to have to quit.

It has always been laggy in wvw but this has gone on far too long . Waste of time!

SubHonour Guard.6498:

My guild mates and I are having a competition to see whoever can screenshot the highest ping during a zerg fight. So far I’m winning.

http://puu.sh/hb3tW/d830b39105.jpg

This happens consistently to a few of us every large fight.

haha

I do find it amazing how my stable 24 ping to the server some how translates to a 100+ ping ingame and thats with -clientport 80.

Too many things wrong with this game since the last patch I just haven’t enjoyed it at all.

I wonder who lost their job over this or is this just one big game to them.

For argument’s sake, before anyone reports lag here they should have a ping test running of the server they are playing in. That will make Stephen’s job much easy.

If you do have latency problems then you should not be posting here as you are having problems related to your ISP and not just Anet.

Stephen ClarkeWillson as “Studio Technical Director” I hope you deal with the person or people responsible for introducing a patch of this nature just before a holiday and then go off on holiday themselves. As a director, I couldn’t think of a worse situation to be put in and full respect to you for trying to deal with it in your holiday time.

Just for the record I have played next to no WvW over the last few days and it’s been very frustrating for me and many others. Even now things are not perfect but come tuesday I’m sure the team will ffind the bug and fix it.

Thanks for your time.

I’m not saying your wrong, you missed the point. Read my last post.

Try not to rage post you might understand what I’m talking about from within your bubble.

Wrong about a director doing the work of the a GM. A director who by law isn’t allowed to profit from his position financially.

Believe me, in the business world when a director has to stand in. It’s not a good thing for the guys at the top who’s original decisions landed the company in the situation in the first place!

From my understanding of the business world a director makes decisions but doesn’t get their hands durty.

So basically he should be telling the guys at the top what to do not doing it him self.

Thats all I’m saying, your the ones taking it out of hand. Maybe you see a problem with the situation too but don’t want to admit it so you attack me

One thing that does strike me a strange is how he thinks the ingame ping reading of 0 means anything at all. It’s not even directly linked to the lag just a tool on the side malfunctioning like a broken sensor.

Why on earth don’t they have a god mode for the moderators already when the game has been out how long? says alot about the situation!

And why a director who doesn’t even make money from the business they are meant to direct. Hence the name, so why does he even have control over the servers!

Something smell fishy here!?!

I’m feeling a bit misled.

Feedback, Gandara, EB:

After Thursday and Friday nights’s lag I haven’t seen the game so dead in regards to teamspeak and commanders/blobs. So for us it’s not a good test of lag.

Gandara Borderlands: I did join up for a little while and I got ganked XD My stability shield didn’t work but I didn’t see any lag :/

I’m not sure this did anything. I guested to a server other than my home one and nothing seemed to change. Same players, same guilds. A’m I missng something?

What I really want to know is if I can join a server hosted closser to me but still in the same regain (EU). I’m not wanting change region.

Nieny.9418:

WoW dont have problems like i press 100 times one skill and it doesnt work.. WTF

Yeah the difference was when they thought wow was working it wasn’t (very frustrating argument) but when gw2 works it does actually work.

At lease this problem we are seeing is quite definitive and it’s not just me. Believe me this is much better then being told its your gameplay thou you are top of a leader board. Thats how blizzard treats its customers.

WoW had the worst type of lag because only a skilled player would notice, I would get hit by melee players while they looked out of range of my mage.

GW2 is by far a much better game for competitive gameplay when it’s working.

Hylgeriak.8250:

Nieny.9418:

Ok i have only one more question , why only GW2 have problems like this, any ESO or WoW or other mmo… only we have skill lags, lags and others things..

wut? What are you talking dude? ESO is the worst lag fest in all of MMO history. Have you ever been to their type of WvW? It’s unplayable almost…since release btw. Just check their forum before you post anything lol

I only had very small lag spikes in big battles whereas some of my guild had a total d/c…still supporting the ISP issue hypothesis.

That my be the case for some people but not for all of us.

I have uploaded an screenshot while I was having the massive skill lockup and as you can clearly see the server return time was no more than 30ms. Yes one or two hops along the route was pinging out high but thats because the router are under load and give lower priority to a ping packet but as you can clearly see it doesn’t affect the overall rout time and thats what your looking for in a trace router test.

<a href=“http://imgur.com/EHO0K80”><img src=“http://i.imgur.com/EHO0K80l.jpg” title=“source: imgur.com” /></a>

if that still isn’t working try this link

http://imgur.com/EHO0K80

Inferno.2315:

I played a full match in eotm last night on DB. I really didn’t notice much lag like what people have been describing. It was pretty late at night but we did have three big zergs for a long time from each side and a few large battles.

But then this morning there was a new round with a probably full map and there were a few times where things seemed to “catch up” much moreso than the earlier match.

Never quite 10+ second skill lag but maybe 3-4 seconds at some times. I did still see some skill lag in world bosses that was worse than eotm.

Normally I would say “then why post here if you dont have the problem” but this could be useful infomation if you really wasn’t seeing any problems.

Maybe you could post some info about your setup that could relate to the problem. Maybe its hardware related.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out it’s ArenaNets servers to blame for the problem.

If it was the internet backbone/peering links/port throttling or what ever else you would like to shift the blame onto, we would see the lag while in PvE too. But that isn’t the case, no we see the lag only while in the server (WvW/EB) that is being overloaded. Plus we see the lag if we are close to the big battle or not, if the bandwidth is high or not. That alone would suggest it is the server.

I would put money on the fact that when people see the lag these things I list below will always be the case (apart from the odd case where people genuinely are suffering from those problems in witch case they can use a VPN to solve the problem, or it’s your ISP’s gateway or local exchange that are overloaded and you have high latency on the internet in genral)

*The battle ground (EB,RS…)will have a large queue/ the battle ground you have joined.
*There will be 3 big groups in the battle you are playing in.
*You will not see the lag untill you are in the battle ground.
*You will see the lag regadless if you are close to the big groups or not (most servere cases or the big groups are already engaged in a fight) while in the battle ground.

Also if it was the Internet to blame for the lag, as the servers are hosted in Germany then the Germans would be less lickly to see the lag if not at all. As the backbone in question is one that links us to Germany, plus as it would seem the higher your genral latency is the worse the problem is magnified. So again the Germans would have less of a problem if any at all. Eg I get 18ms ping and the lag gives me 180ms ping+ and someone from the US would get 150ms ping then get 1500ms ping in the lag and that is already proven to be the case when the backbone is the problem. And yes these other problems do happen but not as often as ArenaNet would have us believe and you can check this by performing a route test (trace route ping test). I like to use UoTrace to “Trace Route” then “Poll” and leave it running while ingame.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/unacceptable-WvW-SERVER-lag/first#post4945906

EDIT:(The link above isn’t my post as my post has now been deleted merged. A sign that ArenaNet couldd’t care less.)

This is a post explaining mine and others lag problems in WvW. I personly do not think it’s the same issuse at hand here but this thread seems to have the developers attention.

My problem isn’t a port throttling or a saturated backbone issuse.

Please help,

Thanks.

pdavis.8031:

If you are in EU please post your information, as directed in the first post, here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/support/Latency-Lag-for-EU-Players-merged/page/28#post4945524

There have been several dev responses, and they are working with the ISPs to get this fixed, as it seems it not just on Anets side.
Good luck!

I have just proven it is on ArenaNets side!

It’s not a port issue for me. I already have tried using port 443 and now 80 with the “-port 80” addition to the target launch shortcut.

I’m able to test the route times and it just shows the server being the problem.

I am a old school online gamer and have been around a while to understand this from back when the internet was first available.

Using UoTrace and the server ip you can perform a thorough test of the route times and packetloss. I have no problem with either of these.

Edit: A ping test does not always tell the truth anyway because ISP’s can detect a ping packet and give it priority. Besides that the ingame server responce time always jumps up 10 fold when this lag happens or when big groups engage. While route times stay the same.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

are you talking about network lag(ie: your ping is really high) or skill “lag” in WvW(skills don’t trigger correctly, mostly occurs in huge crowds)

if it’s network lag, there’s nothing Anet can do about it… changing the population cap in a zone won’t have any impact on how quickly packets can get to you.

if it’s skill lag, it’s caused in part by the load on the server but also by your own CPU’s capacities. There’s no real solution to this, besides avoiding crowds that are too big.

In this case it is the server that is to blame. The problem could be fixed with a lower player cap per server or maybe a patch to ease the server load again. I don’t know about the last patch because I have not been playing in a while and it was the same back along for me as it is now.

In regards to your idea being my CPU under too much load, the simple answer is – You get this problem just from being in the same server regardless if you are close to the big groups or not.

Back to my point about it being server lag and not internet networking lag or at lease not outbound, If the problem was the internet/backbone/peering links then we would all see the skill lag whether or not we are all in the same server (WvW or PvE) as they are all in the same server stack. Unless the WvW server are hosted in a different country/location in EU that dont use the same link.

And If anyone thinks that I’m wrong by saying it’s server lag then please by all means give me the VPN link and I’ll pay and test it myself but from what I can tell, it’s server end.

I’m playing from UK.

After performing many test with VPN and different routes to the server it has become clear to me this is SERVER LAG! Not a bad peering link like ArenNet would have us believe.

Do what ever you have to do, reduce the WvW player cap but just please fix this problem it is just totally unacceptable/unplayable.

Such a great game wasted and for what? Thats what I can not work out. Whats the point in not dealing with this problem?!?

So please, do what ever needs to be done so we can enjoy this game on holidays, fridays nights and weekends.

Thanks.

It has been a while since I created this post but it would seem this problem remains.

This game does not seem to be able to keep up with may speed. I am unable to be competitive.

I don’t care if I get ganked by 3-4 people if the game could just do what I tell it and doesn’t require spamming of keys and nursing every cast/skill in large battles or in hight populated wvw servers.

Tyler Chapman.1832:

This is a global issue that I responded to in another thread. We are working on pinning this down and fixing it. Thanks!

Any news on this?

I’m also getting problems with AoE casting. It feels like my casts don’t always work the first time and in the same session I also get lots of stuck bug. Seems to me like skills trigger it or any interacting.

Isn’t this a type of desync and if so could it be down to my ISP (or level3.net links) even thou my ping is stable and I have tones of bandwidth? I only ask because I am planning on changing ISP and would like to avoid any problematic routs if that was the case.

Hi, sorry to open a old post but I couldn’t find anything else or a solution to this problem.

What is the underlying cause of the problem?

This happened 3 times in a row today to me in the space of 15 seconds. I would be casting away fine then when I go to move and cast, I would get stuck and unable to move. When I check to see why I’m stuck, nothing is on me. Even casting Mist Form did nothing to help. It seem moving and casting gets me stuck 3-4 seconds at a time.

I also get this thing a lot when I cast on the move may characters animation would be standing still while I’m still running.

After running some ping test to the server I noticed some jitter from 20-60ms to the hope before the server as the server itself can’t be directly pinged. So I was thinking it could be dsync maybe?

Turns out my graphics card pci-e slot was only running at x2 and not x16. I found this by looking on GPU-Z. So for the first time since I bought this game about 6 months ago Its running very very well XD.

Sorry about that but if I can miss that then anyone could. I wonder how many other people have haing that problem but dont know?!?

Shulkor.3670:

I see you have the Bigfoot 2100, I am curious how it performs over your on-board LAN chip. Have you by chance did a comparison? I am “considering” a gaming LAN card for a new rig. Thanks…

Yes it does perform a BIT faster but for £70, you have to think if you believe its worth it. I see it as a exta processor, so when new games start to use more cores in the cpu I hope it will make a difference by taking away a bit of load (GTA V).

http://www.pingtest.net/result/88308254.png

The game feels laggy to me. It feels like vsync is on but its not. Even when my FPS are above 100 it doesn’t feel nice to play.

Makes my skill interface hard to play with. I’m always having to check to see if a spell has worked. I have to wait a second after a skill cd before it can be used.

I don’t see a options for direct input or reduce input lag…

System:
cosair H850w
AMD FX 8 × 4.65ghz & 300mhz fsb
Asus Crosshair IV Formula sb/nb 2.4ghz
2x 4GB 1600mhz 8-8-8-24-2T
6970 2gb GPU @ 900mhz
Soundblaster pci-e x-fi
bigfoot 2100 1gb netwrok card
2x 120gb corsair 3 SSD’s
corshair cpu H80 water cooler

Windows is up to date, all drivers are up to date. No other games have this problem.

lightning flash : Teleport to target area.

Casting this spell can curse my character lock up and unable to more. Also at times casting it with auto run, the animation stands up right but I’m still moving/running.

Is this a know bug?

Any help is welcome.

Thanks.

Cannot believe this is still a problem for a year old game.

Is this still beta, Am I going to get payed for testing the game?

I can tell where the enemy are just looking for the drop in fps as I look around. Inside or out.

Is this the same thing?

HX850w
Bulldozer 8 core @ 300fsb 4.6ghz (water cooled)
8gb system ram @ 8-8-8-24 1600mhz
NB/HT @ 2.4ghz
6950 (unlocked) @ 865mhz 1300mhz

WvW unplayable.

Huh?

Did you even read what I typed?

In a 1on1 the other person can be hitting me no problem and yet I cant cast one spell!

Clearly the connection I PAY to be this good is not doing be any favors under these conditions.

I hope this isn’t some stupid lag compensation thats unable to process (handicap low latency players) because of the WvW over load. Welcome to the future.

70% of the time I cant play this game due to lag or overflow reasons.

I will lag in WvW like everyone else but I’m still being killed 1vs1 because my spells will not cast.

I never get packet-loss. The red lines here are me applying setting to my router or changing gateway. I also use DMZ.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/b3cd30f0025083476964260d4a3dcf79.html

At the end of the day whats the point in putting the player limit so high in WvW that we all lag out. Its not fun. I personally think this game needs some new battlegrounds anyway. WvW maps lack content and I spend more time running around looking for commanders on the other side of the map then I do having a battle as a newbe.

Hi, I’m new to this game and I’m having this problem. keep walking into my death because its not loading npc but also I’ve noticed other players will load about 5 meters away!?!

Not sure I like this in a MMO. I guess this have been tweaked for performance reasons but why cant there be a option like in WvW to change this?