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@OP: There is a misconception in your understanding of the XP bar. It does continue to progress, thus does level your Masteries just fine. It doesn’t matter what game mode you play (except for PvP, which has its own XP system), you will always continue gaining XP. It just takes a little longer than at Level 1.
Your usual reward after Level 80 will be a Spirit Shard.
As for leveling Tyrian Masteries: All you need to do is activate the Mastery you currently wish to level, then you will see its progess bar. Once the bar is full, you need the respective amount of Mastery Points in order to finish the track, afterwards you can select the next one you wish to level and so on.
We all did it that way, it’s fairly simple. You don’t have to play any specific game mode for this, however, you need to do stuff that provides Mastery Points, which should be indicated in your journal.
You only get the spirit shard if you’ve completed every mastery in the area you’re in. So until you’ve gotten all of the Core Tyria masteries finished you don’t get spirit shards for filling up the experience bar.
And that’s where the OP is having a problem: he doesn’t have the mastery points to unlock everything and doesn’t want to have to do the things that give mastery points. And he needs the reward from “leveling up” to get him to continue playing.
You get spirit shards from Silverwastes bags tho (noxious seed pods) or airship cargo from VB, so he can still get said rewards just in a different way.
As I still need ascended trinkets, it is worth it to me, especially since it contains GW1 lore and I love it!
However, the content has been disabled for the time being (hence my question!):
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Ember-Bay-Changes/
Oh ok, didn’t know they disabled it.
You can get ascended trinkets much easier by farming Bloodstone Fen and Bitterforst though ^^
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Largos need a redesign, before they are possible for being a playable race.
They current design has been made under the thought, that they aren’t a playable race, thus the reason why you see that race currently in the whole game just like only maximum 3 or 4 times or so, wherefrom 1 is just a single main story NPC and the others are just some enemies in a few maps.Replacing that 1 main story npcs and the few enemies is surely no huge workload to do.
Theres also some kind of unofficial Largos project from fans that i have seen somewhere, which i find good and interesting. Don#t know what has been come out of that so far, never heard again somethign about that for a long while by now
Ah, found it again ,the Youtube Channel
Look it:
Shows you, how much effort there is to create a race from paper to something, that actually works in the game later
Howeve,r that channel shows just the current design of the largos. If they should become playable, i think its neccessary to completely redesign their “Wings Part”
They are way too stiff and unnatural in the game. If they would stay like this animated, a Largos would break everytime their wings when they perform a Dodge Roll lolIf that race should keep their wings as some kind of racial unique part of their design, then the wign design must become alot more fluid and the wings need to receive a completely compatible different animation for the whole combat related movement setting, for gliding ect. pp so that their wings are in the way. Also for swimming/diving they would need complete new animations, so that they look natural there and not so stiff like glued onto their backs.
Aside from all the technical stuff, the Largos Race needs lore. We nearly know absolutely nothing about them yet. That would be something that the Expansion would have to change.
It makes sense for the character creation to come up with like 4 different “Houses”
I myself made a real long time ago once a thread, where I wrote a concept for their lore based on 4 Houses.. hmm ,if i can find that old thread again xD
But sadly I can’t find it anymore and haven’t saved it up somewhere for quick referenceThats definetely a far better design for some kind of underwater amphibic race that could use a kind of modified Charr Body Model perhaps and turn their “wings” just into a racial locked glider design.
That’s quite an interesting video. I see they fused largos with seers. I read some fan theories that largos are evolved seers. And yeah, wings would need to be redesigned, but seeing how gemstore is full of them lately, I don’t think that would be a big problem.
I also like your points that they are just rarely-encountered npcs and enemies. This is why I keep saying largos are perfect candidates if new race ever comes :P
Pros:
- Easy body to model armor for (Unlike tengu or koda or even dwarves)
- Not very prominent in the main story, so devs can do whatever they want with them, their design and their lore
- Are described as fierce fighters, so it would make sense if they suddenly decide to join us in a battle against Elder Dragons
- Won’t feel like they were shoehorned in the story if DSD finally shows up. Largos respect successful warriors, and after us slaying 2 EDs they may think we are now ‘worthy’ of working together with.
- Have a few ‘houses’ they belong to, so that would fit well with the personal story concept where you have to choose your order/college/etc.
- They have a unique mysterious look to them. (Unlike koda or skritt who all look the same)
- Have ties to DSD and Abaddon due to living underwater, so there are lots of possibilities to elaborate on existing lore and create new one.
Cons:
- Wings. But since a lot of characters have wings nowadays, excuses like ‘OMG WINGS AND CLIPPING!!!" don’t make a lot of sense. They will just need to adapt largos wings to be like current ones.
- Underwater combat. Well, that should also happen some day, and it seems like a good opportunity to do it.
Largos would probably be the easiest race they could implement, but that’s also the problem with them. They’re essentially elves. Sylvari were originally designed as elves with plant accessories, but were redesigned because they wanted something more unique. Largos would basically end up being gray humans, and they probably wouldn’t have permanent wings because they’d avoid the issue by revealing that they’re actually a part of their suit.
I doubt ArenaNet will ever implement a new race however, because not only are they costly to implement, they’ll also forever increase development costs. If they were going to implement one however, they’d likely go with something more unique. Tengu for example, which were one of the original candidates.
First of all, nothing connects largos to elves except for some strange ears that only males have, by the way. We have no idea how their faces look like. For all you know they could end up being like Mileena from mortal kombat under those masks, lol.
And tengu eh, you again have that problem with adjusting old armor to them. That’s not only adjusting the mesh, but you’d also get problems with stretched textures/clipping (like charr have). Largos are easier in that department cause they share human body model.
And then there’s also Bubbles of course, the underwater dragon. If we were to fight him, who would assist us with that? Quaggan?
Largos would fit nicely into that story being powerful fighters and an underwater race. While tengu are not really relevant to the story these days.
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Omg I love it
Keep it coming ^^
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@ electricwater:
I have no clue, why you picked now a part of my post for a quote, but I haven’t said any word about it, that the fight against the Deep Sea Dragon should be an instance like against Zhaitan.
But personally I also hope, that itsn ot again such a silly splitted mess like in HoT with partwise instance and partwise Mass Event that you can do only every 2 hours.Best thing would be, if its next time a “Mass Instance”, because the woudl be the best option that takes the good elements out of both options
1) You are not only like 5 people or alone, but the instance could be made for a balanced number of say maximum 100-250 People (WvW is practically nothign different, the maps are mass instances)
2) And you can do them whenever you want, you don’t have to wait first god darn 2 hours first, before you can fight agaisnt the dragon, you start them and you land just in a queue that collects first enough people to create a new mass instance and adds people to created mass instances for up to 2 minutes after, before it starts to collect again people for a next new mass instance, which is an instances, which scales then up or down regarding how many people are in that instance together.
What Id like to see the Deep Sea Dragon battle to have would be also multiple “Phases” that require different tactics to fight against the dragon to be able to deal serious damage agaisnt him, like this
Phase 1 = Underwater Combat – Weakening Phase by doing everything there to reduce the Mobility of the Dragon, pinpointing it with multiple huge harpoon cannons, so that the wings and the tail can be damaged, until they are cut off
Phase 2 = Underwater Combat – Enraged/Defense Phase, Lots of Minnions come to help after the Dragon gets enraged from getting cut off his extremities, destroying all the harpoon cannons with a huge tidal wave from his enraged movements under water. Here is the sense just to do everything to survive and defeat the multiple waves of minions, until the rage of the dragon stops and no minions waves come anymore, before you can start the final counterattack and the finale
Phase 3: Underwater/On Water Counterattack Phase
After the rage of the dragon has ended and all Minion Waves have been defeated, its time for the final counter attack to weaken the health of the dragon so much, until we break the will/defense of the dragon, by doing an all out attack with ships/sub marines/air ships bombarding the dragons from all sides, while players in the water have to stop the dragon from performing his breath attack, because the mission will fail, if he destroys the whole fleet with his breath attack/his claws.Phase 4: Finale
after having weakened the dragon enough under water, Livia comes to help with the Scepter of Orr and performs the ancient spell, that was responsible in the past to sink Orr onto the dragon to lift the deep sea dragon out of the water onto the land, further weakening the dragon because now hes not anymore in his natural realm, where we players use then attacks/tactis that exploit the dragon’s weakness to defeat it once and for all, by using one of those attacks in a massive concentrated form against the head of the dragon at a least expected situation to hit him with it fully out of surprise, blastign off its head to see his dead body crush then to the ground…that would be an epic finale for me
I picked your quote because you were describing the boss battle with DSD, smth I also wanted to add an opinion on. And since it was about a boss battle, I thought I’d add some thoughts on 5-man instance/map zerg too while I’m at it 
Too bad we don’t know anything about DSD and his powers, so it’s hard to tell what kind of battle it would be. But it would be more fun if it’s a dynamic battle where you have to move a lot to survive (and not just afking in a corner lazily while other people do all the work).
The phases you suggested are interesting, I also have a few ideas about that.
- Parallel participation. Few groups that are assigned to perform different things at the same time. Kind of like with Chak Gerent Lanes. Since people speculate DSD might be a hydra, then it’s gonna be a battle against multiple heads. Let say one is underwater, while other 1 is on land and the 3rd one is high in the air spewing poison for example. So some have to go underwater combat mode, while others fight him on land, and the last group has to use gliding to attack him and disable him. Then heads move and everyone has to switch to other mode. So let’s say people who were underwater before have to gliding.
If one group fails their task, then an extra head grows and it becomes harder. This way it becomes crucial that every group performs well.
People say it will cost too much resources to create a new race, but there was never any official statement about that. I pointed that out. There is also no official statement that it fits perfectly in their budget either. But until either of such statements comes, it is up for discussion (yet some people are already saying it will never happen).
If you want to believe that a new race is likely, there’s nothing that anyone can say to temper your optimism. If you want to understand why we haven’t seen a new race or hype from ANet about one, you can read above: there are huge costs associated with adding a new race to this game.
No one is saying it will never happen; we are saying it’s extremely unlikely because a new race involves both startup and ongoing costs while other features only include some of the same costs.
For what it’s worth, here are some other conversations on the same topic:
First of all, WP is not a dev, so his opinion is just an opinion of another player, who doesn’t know the full situation of how things are going at anet.
*He makes a point that cities are not visited regularly, but a lot of people farm them for transmutation charges, so that’s one of the reasons to go there lol. And as he said, they can add extra activities/vendors/unique stuff like mystic forge in such cities to attract more people.
*Then he talks about problems placing leveling areas for tengu, and we already talked about how there’s no need for that if they start at 80.
*Then about how there’s some problem with heart quests…yet up to this day we see them in Ember Bay and in Bitterfrost. If they keep doing it then they probably think it’s worth it.
*New race’s personal story – has been suggested. Make the race unlockable once you have lvl 80 character of any other race first and completed HoT. This way they can enjoy the original Zhaitan/Mordy stories all they want and it won’t feel weird.
*Revoice all the previous content – again, no need for that, see previous point. As for dungeons/raids/whatever dialogues, replace them with text instead (IF there is a problem with hiring new VA). It’s just a few phrases, I don’t think anyone would mind much.
*He’s also talking about dwarves (completely new body model) and tengu (again, hard body to model for). Yeah, I can understand why it’s hard to adjust old armor to them, that’s why I suggested largos instead who have humanoid bodies (with interchangeable wings, before someone smart jumps in with ‘BUT WHAT ABOUT WINGS????’ again). Problem = gone.
Anyway, Imma stop arguing in this thread now. I’ve already listed all my views on so-called ‘problems’. People who want results look for solutions, people who don’t – look for excuses. As I’ve said like million times already, it’s up to anet. I would love a new race, but if it never comes I’m not gonna cry and uninstall.
I do agree with WP on the following though, people have this ‘list of requirements’ they made up themselves and keep referring to it. You can also think outside of the box, you know.
Anyway, I’m done here
So I spent a lot of time running about doing the legendary journey which was kind of fun for the most part, it’s not covered anywhere I searched so thought I’d just ask here.
The Legend – obviously isn’t bifrost to my shock and horror when building it, it’s only ‘part’ The Biforst, so am I correct in assuming that the only way to obtain said bifrost is to obtain ‘Gifts’ ?
Normally I wouldn’t care it’d just be another collection of stuff, except one of those gifts involves PvP which I point blank refuse to engage in, unless it’s snow ball fight then fine so am I better off just saving gold and buying off the TP?
If that’s the case I’m a little sad at the effort and gold I put into get the legend as I need not have bothered.
I craft legendaries regularly, so I’ll break it down for you.
Crafting precursor The Legend will cost you approximately 794 gold at the moment. After you have that, you’ll need another 1k (again approximately) to turn it into Bifrost. That’s assuming you don’t have the required mats already. If you don’t think you can handle such costs, then don’t even start.
Wiki lists everything you need, so follow it.
You don’t have to pvp, but you will need to spend 8-10 hours in WvW for the gift of battle, you get if from the reward track. WvW is quite easy, just follow the commander and tag someone once in a while, that’s it.
You will also need Gift of Exploration, so you’ll need to finish all vanilla core version maps. That’s quite lengthy and boring, but doable and not hard.
You will also need artificer 400 and chef 400 for this legendary. If you don’t have those trained yet, you will also need additional gold to get to 400.
Getting mystic clovers is a gamble. There are 2 recipes: for 1 mystic clover or 10 at a time. But it is always a 1/3 chance (in my own experience even lower), you can also drop other materials from throwing these 4 ingredients into mf. So better stock up on ecto, mystic coins and obsidian shards.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover
You will also need to do Arah dungeon a few times to get 500 tokens to buy Gift of Zhaitan that you use in Gift of Color.
For the rest, follow wiki lists for materials you’ll need.
Making a legendary is not supposed to be easy and it’s supposed to cost people time and gold, so think whether it’s worth it or not for you GL
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