Guild Wars 2

I am playing on Vs from start, so I saw almost every T1 match-ups, and I can tell you the server that won, was always the one with the higher presence through the week. It was often us to begin with. Recently lot of servers manage to pull higher presence.

Little to do with individual skills really.

Though it is a common thing spread through humanity it seems : the feeling of “I am so good, they are noobs”.

Like in league of legend , in normal games, lot of pro trash talkers, when you point they have a random elo, they always go ‘blablabla I am unlucky with my mates all the time, only get noob team’.

The “best players” are on competitive environments made me smile.

The french can’t even fighr 1 vs 1? I hope that is a joke.

We are a small guild dedicated to roaming, we are most of the time 5, maximum 7.

We have issues to get interesting fights. Any group under 10 will run away, the only thing we can fight most of the time are massive zerg of 20 plus persons. And even like the number of time we split the end of a bus, and you see the bus running away letting their mates die.

So keep your taunts please.

And what is your point?

Eventually the ranking system will match server with same presence.Or it might not, we will see then.

Yeah but the second and third server are actually close, after a bunch of 24h games, and a single 1 week rotation, it isn’t bad already.

As I said it is still early to make any serious analysis. Again no ranking system can give a decent ranking that fast. So saying it is broken or works fine is pointless. Just give it enough time to give result.

And the 1 day transfer isn’t helping the ranking, but at least it helps the persons who want to be on the winning server. Because I am convinced this is what it is about for a lot of people.

Even the persons who never listen on team chat, keep plundering forts, tower ressources think they are amongst the best players. It is the same on every game, for people who know league of legend, it is a common discussion. Many post from players with 1000 elo or less, convinced it is the elo system which is broken, or that they are unlucky, they always get bad team mates while they are great.

In our match-up top server is only 60K ahead, 2K difference 2 and 3. It doesn’t seem to be that imbalanced.

As i said several times, let the system work. It is only the second week, no ranking system can balance things in 2 match-up.

I mean if in two months you still see big problems, then we can discuss it, but whining about a system before actually checking if it works, I dont know, that bothers me.

It is not as if they do that every day, I doubt they can afford that many golems all that often.

And I dont see how it is hurting your WvW experience if they troll once in a while.

Well I guess it depends, my server always face the same 3/4 servers, so we know where they are from.

Might be different in other cases. But I know the name of all the french servers, and would be able to identify them right away with just the name.

I am pretty sure it is the same for german, they have like 3 servers right?So each server probably know who are the other 2.

The only solution would be to hide the name of the server you are facing till the end of the match up. Like you face, red and blue, but then you would have to hide the name of the ennemies’ guilds as well, as the big guilds are known

Seems to be pretty hard and painful to me.

Removing the tag wouldn’t change much, you can still know pretty easily with the server’s name who is who.

I got that part, your only argument for the 24h games is ‘it gives people hope for a chance to win’.

It still has nothing to do with improving the WvW.

And you keep trying to dodge real argumentation under others excuses. So I will stop there, I offered several time to go into a real argumentation and everytime you dodge it, pretending all I want is trolling you.

Waiting impatiently the next thread. OH wait, already 2 were created in between. Hehe.

Actually this is probably a good idea. People will be more focus about enjoyin the WvW rather than being obssessed with the score.

And we would have whiny posts once a week when the score is published.

Well at least, the real reason of that post appeared pretty fast. Under the disguise of ‘I want to improve things’, it was just another ‘it is unfair thread’.

That is good to have ideas. But it is even better to explain why you think they are good. Because ‘we may have a chance to win’ doesn’t seem be a real good reason to change things.

I think we should change things to make the game more exciting, like possibilities to attack under water gates, had siege tower, ladders….fix some clipping.

I show no hostility, but as expected you have no valid argument.

I am more than willing to discuss with you, but at least explain why 24h games are more exciting. Else don’t be surprised if people take it as another whine.

I told you why I think longer the better. I am actually impatient for the 2 weeks games. I also think they should suppress the score. Suddenly we would see so much less whines.

You still dont offer any argument, that just sounds like another, ‘please Anet helps me!’.

Really explain me how 24h games are so much more fun. I really fail to see it.

Fun as you did exactly that, ignoring the two first arguments I made, focusing on the only one you are comfortable to answer.

We saw it again and again in 24H match, forts without upgrade. And other that it would be more exciting because we might have a chance to win, you dont offer any argument for the 24h games.

That is the way to go.

Though what is sad I think, if you had exactly the same fight and end up losing it, you wouldn’t come and post how great it was, even if you enjoyed it, but whine about nightcapping

Anyway I am glad to see servers get organized the ‘night’ as well.

The 24 hours match aren’t as fun, there is no point for a guild to claim a fort and upgrade it. And even if they do, you dont really feel involved enough to go defend it under a massive attack.

Honestly 24 hours match only would kill WvW. Maybe if it would please the person coming here whining cause they would win from time to time.

But this is a game, why can’t people focus on having fun, rather than ‘who has the biggest’.

So far , some of the best situation I faced in WvW is when I was on the losing side, getting your fort siege by the two others serves at same time, all your P1 walls and gates down, non stop bus coming again and again, resisting for 2 hours before actually losing it.

At the end my thought wasn’t like ‘oh WTF they allied again’, but “this was fun”.

Seriously, if all you want is being on the winning server, transfer is your friend.

I will repeat it, but there is no problem.

A) You want balanced games. The system will match you with serves you can compete with within a month.

B) What you really want is part of a top server to brag (and I really think that is all it is about for a lot of people). You can transfer there.

Either way, there is no problem, you just make some up.

And yeah there is a problem with having a balanced population at anytime. Let’s say a server has no presence at all during a certain time, but the two others do.
The 2 serves shoudn’t be allowed to play? I am not sure, but this is very selfish to me.

Now, I answered you, explain me why you dont feat in either A or B?

Always same arguments.

As yours may seem valid, several time, others explained you, not everyone can play during ‘prime time’.

And as usual you seem to ignore it. Your proposition is just as selfish, as what you complain about. Why someone who work during night, and play at a different time, shouldn’t be able to play the game?
On top of that if a server can mobilize their players for a longer period of time, they deserve to win. Period. I see no reason to disfavor them.

No solution is perfect, but the Anet system is good. If your server can’t match the presence of others, it will get down the ladder and match server they can compete with.

If you are annoyed cause you aren’t in a top server, there is transfer for you, and you can join one.

I am not sure why everyone is crying.

Yeah, if everyone reasons that way on your server, you shouldn’t be surprised to get stomped during the week.

Personnaly I am always running in WvW in a group of 5, and we can still be pretty efficient. Just holding ressources camps as you said, can hurt your ennemies. And usually if you want to launch a bigger attack, and ask politely on /team, some people join.

Or you can just whine, and complain about noone leading on /team, I see that enough happening on my server as well.

All that to say, if you aren’t trying yourself, don’t expect others people to come and do it for you. What you are asking here isn’t Anet to balance the game, just Anet to favor YOUR timezone, because you are too lazy to try.

Yeah it is surprising I know, but not al the servers have the same peak times.

Yeah I aggree, nightcapping has to go away, so if you match servers with different peak times, you should close the WvWvW maps for the week, and we can all go PVE, till we match a server with exactly the same time zone.

You admit yourself that you and your friends/guildmates aren’t trying after sunday.

Maybe that is the issue.

Else I am not sure how dedicated language servers are hurting WvWvW, at least the Fr part, unless you really believe we have 2K canadians logging on to play on EU server to fight NPC while lagging like hell.

On Vs we have high population as well, but I dont think I ever waited that long, from 15 to 21, I mean omg. Even this week-end I never waited more than 2 hours.

Maybe it is due to the commander bug exploit?If you have 200 players instead of 160 players, I guess the queue system won’t let new players in till the number of players get down 160 again?

PS : I know some players will think it is a taunt, but it isnt.

You should feel lucky at least they get your orbs without cheating, wish we could say same in our matchup

The hack create a bug, we can’t even take back the orbs.

Well the cheating doesn’t annoy me all that much.

It just shows all these whines werent about making the game more fair.It was just despair and cries because they dont win and they are ready to do anything to be first.

A) It is sad to behave like that in general, but for a game, it is even more pathetic.
B) It is ironic about all the lectures about our lack of honor.

As I said just above you arent playing right now, or you are dreaming, or something.

Are you playing right now?It is week-end, are you dominating?You have a10K lead already?

Ah no, the nuggos couldn’t tag btw 5am and 8am.

And yet, you still believe you are so much better than we are. I even read, posts about spawn camping at our gates. So people must be on drugs or something, because they seem convinced of their own imaginary stories.

All these posts last week about honor and how you just want to make the thing fair.

I guess now it is pretty obvious for everyone you are just bitter sore losers.

Btw : I like how you always ignore posts about the orb hacks, just as you ignore every post from your own server telling you, you are actually delusionnal. Selective brains alway amazing.

You clearley didn’t play this week-end.

Friday night Vs was ahead, then you got all map tagged during night (which is fun considering you whine for 2 weeks now cause we do it), then we reduce the gap from 10K to 7K during the day.

Anyway, it is fun, that you whine for ages about capping when other side is busy, and post right away when you are ahead for same reason.

And then we are the one who refuse reasonning :p

You come here to brag being ahead for 40 minutes when it is dinner time here

Who said it was lame to cap when your opponents were busy doing something else in real life :p

Well as I already said the ranking system will work it out itself.

You will eventually be match up against lower presence servers. Vs will face higher presence servers.

If it is only really about fun, and not misplaced pride in a game, you surely won’t mind to face server with equal presence in a lower tier as then it will be fair and fun.

I have the feeling that most people whining here anyway, wouldn’t do all that great in Spvp.

If you server isn’t able to have a 24 hours presence, then maybe he doesn’t deserve to be top tier.

The ranking system is there and will eventually balance it. VS will eventually meet servers matching their presence, FS might meet servers with less presence. Just give the system time to work.

Yeah except it is 150 from Vs, 40 from De, 40 from FS only in your head.I never had the feeling of such a difference one side or the other.

Wish we had a way to get data of these things. So people would be surprised I think.

Well no matter how annoying their whines are on this forum, I actually dont think they have an alliance.

I mean attacking someone already weakened by another attack is fine and smart. We do same when we have the chance.

That is what make the 3 kingdoms things fun. So dont start to make lame excuses as some do

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Far-Shiverpeaks-proving-the-point/first#post135852

Here is the link, with some bothering time zone for FS, being carefully skipped. Wonder if someone has the missing parts, they were pretty fun and embarassing for all the whiners here.

You are fun phara, you did same during the friday night, and I am pretty sure you would do it as soon you have an occasion.

You are just mad right now, cause you are at the bad end of the stick, I never saw you whine,when it was your server doing it.

I like how someone posted the screenshots of the week-end, carefully avoiding to post the midnight to 6.00am time when all the maps were tagged FS but showing screenshots of sunday midnight to 6.00 when it was all tagged VS.

Excuse from the player posting the screenshots, he was sleeping the week-end at this time; but obviously he wasn’t sleeping when it was VS doing it the same time sunday.

It seems honesty isn’t one of your quality.

I play on FS, and late in the night, the server isn’t empty. I regularly see, 20/30 persons in the forts.

The problem is as soon we see 10 men attacking the fort, we prefer to teleport to spawn cause the russian guilds aren’t here to protect us.

So usually I log of WvW and farm mobs, as I can’t stand to find out if I can do something on my own.

Some of the others prefer to stay in WvW but do puzzle jump. I do that as well.

Please Anet, can you make like the forts immune to everything when the russians guilds aren’t connected?I am bored to have to run constantly.

Thanks mithrilendil, but I gave up, I honestly think that the people whining here :

a) Dont even bother to read what is written, they just want to whine
b) They aren’t even the one we face in WvW anyway

Even if what you say is true, they are at least respectfull enough not to post their hate on forum

And I dont know, but I think it is a bit arrogant to pretend to know their opinion and talk for them. I think they can come here themselves if they feel the need

We actually need CaSu to come do another troll post, they are fun at least.

Just confirm like the trolls whining here, arent actually doing WvW, as we reduced the gap sunday afternoon, from 10K to 7K despite your “superiority”.

And 3 replies from Fs, 3 times " we are best lolz :p"

See, I think I was right.

Thank you, perfect illustration of what I said just 1 post ago

Actually I agree, we should see the name in game, to focus the forum ennemies :p

Would be so much more fun

Your logic isn’t better, you offer no arguments, except lies about FS domination consistently during prime time.

All your argumentation revolves about that lie, that and the fact that everyone in the world know you are better for some reason.

When all the facts show it isn’t that simple.

So you can try to convince yourself you deserve to win all you want, instead of trying to actually win. but I have the feeling this isn’t goin to change much.

You know, saturday morning when were behind, we could do like you now, pretend it is pointless, whine whine, we are behind and log off. You woul have now a 50K lead.

Instead we did our best to fight back, and sorry we reduced the gap, despite you always winning during prime time :p

We did it because we like WvW. All you are saying make me think you dont really like WvW, you just like to win?

I admitted it, only after you did it, that doesnt count!

Btw you beat us in equal number and situation only in your dreams. It isn’t one sided during prime time, as you would like people to believe.

Who is disrespectful here?

I made a post already, but you never bother to read. Winning WvW has nothing to do with individual pvp skills.

As I already said, you can be a god able to win 1 vs 5 fight, if you are in dungeon, you are useless.

While you can be the most useless player ever, if you are in WvW, you follow your commander orders, you will help.

In that regard I have no doubt Vs is better, because they have more WvW fans right now. We never said anything about skills, only you keep claiming you are more skilled

Well yeah some people made it clear, they think Anet is to be blamed, because they choose to ignore facts bothering them, like the fact, when nightcapping happen, they have about the same number of players and sometime more than the server nightcapping.

How is Anet responsible if these players prefer to PVE?Or do other things?Should Anet ban these people cause they dont go WvW?

Who cares to be respecting by people who prefer to whine on forum, rather than trying in game.

PS : who creates next topic? :p I think Anet should close that WvW section, this is becoming such a trashplace these days.

I tried to make constructive posts all day yesterday, but everytime when getting for answer basically “kitten canadians nigthcapping” or “everyone knows we are best during day”., I decided it was a waste of time.

So now I am doing like them, posting random taunts, so they can see how fun it is. Look the guys posting for them, they dont even read post, they didnt even realize they were talking to someone from their server a bit above.

Btw it is condescending as well to judge other, so maybe you shouldn’t do it either :p