Guild Wars 2

Ogre.3124:

Honestly, I don’t know why you’re complaining just because your OCX/SEA didn’t play last night. Look how well Maguuma ticked previous nights.

You lose fights (shown by kdr), bunker siege keeps (shown by ss), and have back-ppt’d (end of the spam). The only result of entering this thread is giving attention to your server’s faults and picking up a DR castaway. Nice job

Lots of tears…

Chaba.5410:

Ogre.3124:

ppt while we’re asleep

Honestly, I don’t know why you’re complaining just because your OCX/SEA didn’t play last night. Look how well Maguuma ticked previous nights.

Maguuma’s data from: http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/38/

All time is UTC.
10-13 UTC is OCX Prime
13-16 UTC is SEA Prime

Date Score Income Castles Keeps Towers Camps
2016-05-05 16:56:04 184 881 +240 1 4 6 9
2016-05-05 16:41:03 184 881 +255 1 4 9 6
2016-05-05 16:26:03 184 881 +270 1 4 9 9
2016-05-05 16:11:03 184 881 +245 1 4 8 6
2016-05-05 15:55:03 184 881 +240 1 4 7 7
2016-05-05 15:40:02 184 881 +260 1 5 7 6
2016-05-05 15:24:02 184 881 +315 1 6 9 8
2016-05-05 15:09:02 184 881 +330 1 5 12 10
2016-05-05 14:54:02 184 881 +295 1 4 11 10
2016-05-05 14:39:02 184 881 +295 1 4 11 10
2016-05-05 14:23:02 184 881 +270 1 4 9 9
2016-05-05 14:07:02 184 881 +325 1 7 7 9
2016-05-05 13:52:02 184 881 +350 1 7 10 8
2016-05-05 13:37:02 184 881 +370 1 7 10 12
2016-05-05 13:22:03 184 881 +370 1 6 15 7
2016-05-05 13:07:02 184 881 +440 1 7 16 14
2016-05-05 12:52:02 184 881 +395 1 7 13 11
2016-05-05 12:37:03 184 881 +365 1 6 13 10
2016-05-05 12:21:02 184 881 +330 1 5 12 10
2016-05-05 12:06:02 184 881 +340 1 5 13 10
2016-05-05 11:51:02 184 881 +375 1 7 12 9
2016-05-05 11:36:02 184 881 +385 1 7 12 11
2016-05-05 11:21:02 184 881 +395 1 8 13 6
2016-05-05 11:05:04 184 881 +410 1 8 13 9
2016-05-05 10:50:02 184 881 +410 1 8 11 13
2016-05-05 10:35:02 184 881 +365 1 7 11 9
2016-05-05 10:20:02 184 881 +410 1 8 14 7
2016-05-05 10:05:03 184 881 +385 1 8 10 10

2016-05-04 16:51:04 184 881 +250 0 5 8 9
2016-05-04 16:36:04 184 881 +245 0 5 7 10
2016-05-04 16:21:04 184 881 +285 0 6 7 13
2016-05-04 16:05:05 184 881 +295 0 6 8 13
2016-05-04 15:50:03 184 881 +260 0 5 9 9
2016-05-04 15:35:03 184 881 +270 0 6 8 8
2016-05-04 15:20:03 184 881 +250 0 5 8 9
2016-05-04 15:04:05 184 881 +255 0 5 8 10
2016-05-04 14:49:03 184 881 +270 0 6 8 8
2016-05-04 14:34:03 184 881 +335 0 7 11 10
2016-05-04 14:18:04 184 881 +325 0 6 14 7
2016-05-04 14:03:05 184 881 +375 1 6 14 10
2016-05-04 13:48:03 184 881 +375 1 6 12 14
2016-05-04 13:33:03 184 881 +400 1 7 13 12
2016-05-04 13:17:03 184 881 +405 1 7 13 13
2016-05-04 13:02:03 184 881 +410 1 8 12 11
2016-05-04 12:47:03 184 881 +365 1 6 13 10
2016-05-04 12:32:02 184 881 +375 1 6 12 14
2016-05-04 12:17:02 184 881 +400 1 5 17 14
2016-05-04 12:01:03 184 881 +445 1 6 20 12
2016-05-04 11:46:03 184 881 +385 1 5 15 15
2016-05-04 11:31:02 184 881 +335 1 5 10 15
2016-05-04 11:16:02 184 881 +235 0 4 11 5
2016-05-04 11:01:03 184 881 +265 0 4 12 9
2016-05-04 10:46:03 184 881 +305 1 4 13 8
2016-05-04 10:31:03 184 881 +315 0 5 11 16
2016-05-04 10:16:03 184 881 +250 0 5 9 7
2016-05-04 10:01:04 184 881 +270 0 5 10 9

Compare with last night:
2016-05-06 16:57:02 133 060 +150 0 3 3 9
2016-05-06 16:42:02 132 789 +170 0 3 5 9
2016-05-06 16:27:01 132 504 +145 0 3 4 6
2016-05-06 16:11:02 132 207 +155 0 3 5 6
2016-05-06 15:56:03 131 926 +160 0 3 6 5
2016-05-06 15:41:03 131 684 +130 0 2 6 4
2016-05-06 15:26:04 131 451 +105 0 1 5 6
2016-05-06 15:11:04 131 215 +125 0 2 3 9
2016-05-06 14:56:04 130 974 +125 0 2 3 9
2016-05-06 14:40:03 130 747 +105 0 2 2 7
2016-05-06 14:24:03 130 578 +80 0 1 2 7
2016-05-06 14:09:02 130 444 +45 0 1 1 2
2016-05-06 13:54:02 130 377 +40 0 0 2 4
2016-05-06 13:39:02 130 313 +15 0 0 1 1
2016-05-06 13:24:02 130 196 +45 0 1 0 4
2016-05-06 13:09:02 130 065 +85 0 2 2 3
2016-05-06 12:54:02 129 936 +55 0 1 2 2
2016-05-06 12:39:02 129 868 +35 0 0 2 3
2016-05-06 12:24:02 129 731 +80 0 2 2 2
2016-05-06 12:09:02 129 621 +80 0 1 4 3
2016-05-06 11:54:02 129 479 +85 0 1 4 4
2016-05-06 11:39:02 129 298 +110 0 2 4 4
2016-05-06 11:24:02 129 083 +160 0 4 4 4
2016-05-06 11:09:02 128 820 +180 0 4 6 4
2016-05-06 10:54:02 128 562 +175 0 3 7 6
2016-05-06 10:39:03 128 352 +140 0 2 6 6
2016-05-06 10:24:03 128 145 +110 0 2 5 2
2016-05-06 10:09:02 127 961 +130 0 2 6 4

WHOA WHOA WHOA

LETS NOT USE FACTS AND LOGIC IN THIS DISCUSSION!!!

Bearded.6485:

After following Grimaldi in the past, and listening to his rants, having everyone in your guild banned from TS because they built an omega golem in North camp. I am absolutely SHOCKED AND APPALLED……… that I actually agree with him. Good Job Anet…… I feel dirty now……

I know crazy right?

Coron showed up too, its like double dirty. :P

ANET help us!

ledernierrempart.6871:

Jana.6831:

etrigan.4213:

tldr:

Start reading the forum, we don’t need interviews two years late with commanders who aren’t that knowledgeable to begin with. I mean these are the same people who I see fail in the game every day.

True – but people wanted new maps on the forums – look what that brought us: I guess it’s rather hard to tell what is and what isn’t what “we” wish.

the new map is great. but too big and too labyrinthine.

Thats just it. The maps have as great feel to them and they look awesome…

They are just too kitten big for todays WvW population.

I guess our beta testers who played the maps failed us. And/or they weren’t loud enough.

Gaile Gray.6029:

A message from the World vs World Team:

We also wanted to express our thanks to Reyana and the commanders she has been talking with in her World vs World Commander Interview series. Reyana is a dedicated member of the WvW community and a WvW streamer. She has brought together a diverse group of community leaders to constructively share different perspectives on how they play with their guilds, and our team has taken a lot of the commanders’ feedback to heart. Reyana has put a lot of effort into organizing these interviews and we want everyone to know that the efforts that she and the commanders made have been greatly appreciated.

This is comedy.

People have been spewing the same ideas on this very forum for a couple years now.

Reyana who barely gets views on her stream, and spends more time in PvP nowadays since WvW is dead is out of touch.

The handful of NA commanders she interviewed just regurgitated the same topics/issues that have been dicussed here forever.

tldr:

Start reading the forum, we don’t need interviews two years late with commanders who aren’t that knowledgeable to begin with. I mean these are the same people who I see fail in the game every day.

No slot for pre-order as well.

The only thing we learned from this experience is that the GM’s don’t work on the weekends.

Which is fair…since neither do I…

But this was reported multiple times by all three servers all weekend….

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Except for Experience Scrolls. The tool-tip/description will update, but the item will not stack. Sigh.

Months with this issue.

tntent.3508:

I will have to agree with some of what the people are saying in this thread. I recently transferred to Fort Aspenwood because my guild (cohhilition) wanted to experience fun wub wub and active server yada yada. I moved up from the bottom of the barrel devona’s rest (shout out to dark jean and the SA crew different guilds).
Since i have been in wub wub on FA i have seen more commanders that are nothing more than a point of a spear on the blob they just happen to be running in front of. Its a miracle that FA is actually winning at all.
The one thing i did notice though is that i see more and more guild blobs running around without tags. More organized guild strike teams and small groups. But ya FA is basically commander less imho

I get the feeling you don’t know FA very well.

FA has two VERY popular pugmanders in Nacho and Tyrion. I mean Nacho has GvG’d with his pugs and done well against guilds numerous times.

Nevermind numerous other pugmanders that may tag up at any given time: Delune, Basch, Radik, Sixshot, etc…we have at least 10+ competent pugmanders.

I suggest you participate on our TS3 server so you can get an idea what is going on. Just about all of our commanders use TS3.

Also please join FA’s Website , it seems you’re a tiny bit out of touch with what is going on.

aquabat.2986:

rofl FA are as big as TC without the new 50 man chinese guild they just got

150+ chinese

And another large PVX SEA/EU gaming group that wanted to go to SOS, but couldn’t because it was full.

None of them wanted to go to YB for reasons…

BUMPING because some guilds just can’t help themselves and the hate for other servers is too strong or the other servers are “FULL”…and so they try to come to FA.

Soooooooooooooooooooo….

Stressing the point that prospective guilds should contact us at www.fort-aspenwood.com or via the contacts in the original post(oe me for that matter), BEFORE you just transfer to FA.

We are currenly FULL during NA EST/PST timezones and are not looking got anymore guilds in that timezone.

Other timezones can be discussed, but PLEASE contact us first regardless.

Very nice editing.

I see dead people.

NA est/pst guilds looking for a new home should probably go to SOS as DB is full and no one likes YB.

SOS has a much better community than YB.

If you are NA EST/PST, you should probably not set your sights on FA. We are full during NA and are not looking for anymore people in that timezone.

If you are SEA or EU, give us a shout.

Just an FYI:

FA is now directing all NA guilds to SOS. DB is full and no one likes YB…so they are trying to come to FA.

FA’s NA is full, and we’d much rather people go to SOS as it has a much better community than YB.

Well when I mentioned server populations…what I meant to convey is that ANET knows these metrics…

Whether they plan to use those metrics when HOT comes out or just expect a new BL and players coming back will fill WvW remains to be seen.

They clearly don’t have any immediate plans for WvW, and certainly haven’t shown us they have any interest. Which leads me to believe that the numbers they are seeing in WvW do not warrant any new content.

They can go crazy during the living story events, releasing a new portion every two weeks…but WvW gets next to nothing.

Like I said, they have the metrics, and know exactly whats going on and who/how many participate in WvW.

Chaba.5410:

etrigan.4213:

The fact that there’s four servers that are full, and the rest a “very high” would point to the fact that there’s a lack of WvW participation more than there’s an issue of stacking.

Taking this idea further, remember I wrote above that Maguuma imploded because of a lack of new transfers to that server to keep T2 ad T3 balanced. They needed new transfers to stay ahead of player attrition, a form of weak WvW participation.

It would be remiss of many players still playing this game to not have noticed how bad player attrition is after all this time. Guilds and players have been moving up the tiers for a long time and are a finite resource. Of course there would come a time when player attrition starts to affect the higher tiered servers. The imbalances in the whole system will only increase without Anet addressing player attrition and lack of WvW participation. HoT should help alleviate some of that, but without changes to the WvW game mode with the goal of increasing WvW participation, it will be but a brief respite.

I posted this in another thread, but I’ll post it here as well. In short we as endusers don’t have enough data to fully understand the issue, but ANET does and has made a choices in regards to WvW:

Honestly without knowing the metrics on server populations, its really tough to come up with a fix.
I mean we have 4 servers that are full, and three of them are at the top of the WvW heap. The fourth is fighting hard for place #5.
20 servers are at “Very High”. That obviously doesn’t mean they have WvW populations, but it may mean that they have low WvW participation.
We don’t have the metrics on those server populations nor do we have the metrics that would tell us what timezones are stronger for each server.
I’m sure ANET has those metrics, and could tell us if its a participation problem or not.

Actually those seven servers are only overpopulated in WvW.

Actual server population is pretty even if we look at whatever “Very High” means.

We have four “Full” servers, three of them are T1, and the other had to fight hard for place #5.

Every other server is “Very High”(during NA EST at least), and it leads me to believe that its really just a matter of getting more PVE players into WvW.

Arius.7031:

We’re not saying de-stacking is always good. But, de-stacking in a specific way should theoretically be good for overall WvW.

Except that its not a good solution. The underlying cause of the stacking is still an issue.

Your fix is pointless without a proper fix of the underlying causes.

You’re also suggesting that players and guilds stop playing with other guilds they want to be with. You can moan all you want about the servers that got stacked, but in the end, all of those players and guilds want to be where they are.

You’re asking for the health of one tier over 7 others.

The fact that there’s four servers that are full, and the rest a “very high” would point to the fact that there’s a lack of WvW participation more than there’s an issue of stacking.

As I stated before…that I contend that the vast majority of WvW players are happy where they are. Whether that means they are in the top two tiers(likely right?)…or not.

In short your destacking solution is pointless and addresses NONE of the problems of coverage and participation to begin with.

We have ONE broken tier out of EIGHT.

Two or three servers screwed weekly.

I’m sorry but that is pretty far from any majority.

Honestly without knowing the metrics on server populations, its really tough to come up with a fix.

I mean we have 4 servers that are full, and three of them are at the top of the WvW heap. The fourth is fighting hard for place #5.

20 servers are at “Very High”. That obviously doesn’t mean they have WvW populations, but it may mean that they have low WvW participation.

We don’t have the metrics on those server populations nor do we have the metrics that would tell us what timezones are stronger for each server.

I’m sure ANET has those metrics, and could tell us if its a participation problem or not.

Destacking wouldn’t fix a thing.

There has ALWAYS been population gaps and mismatches. Take a look at WvW history on MOS.

Right now you have maybe 2 or 3 servers unhappy. Out of 24.

You have 4 full servers and the rest are “Very High”. So its not really a server population issue, its a server participation issue.

Good luck on getting people to participate with megaservers though.

Rimmy.9217:

etrigan.4213:

No one said that stacking didn’t have negative consequences for a lot of other servers, but blaming the players for a faulted gaming mode is ridiculous and short sighted.

You have an unbalanced game due to coverage wars, and you expect people not to try their way of balancing it…after 2 1/2 years waiting for ANET to fix it?

Now two of you want those servers to destack and spread out logically on their own??

How exactly would that happen? Who’s going to figure out who goes where to make it all balanced?

I mean screw server pride right?
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It was never balanced to begin with.

The smarter fix would be to introduce some sort of autobalancing mechanism to the game. There’s been tons of player solutions posted in this forum. I have no idea which would be the best, or if any would work at all…

Nobody has blamed players for the game mode, only their consequences of their actions within it. And no, I wouldn’t expect people not to try to “balance” things, but after 2.5 years they’ve done the exact opposite – some tiers are locked, and others face the kind of imbalanced matchups that players in 2012 couldn’t even dream of, thanks to player-driven “solutions”.

Wrong. There were certainly crazy imbalances in 2012 and early 2013. I mean you had servers beating others by 300,000 points in some cases.

The point I was making, is that the game is unbalanced and has been from the start.

Consequences you are seeing now with one extra server beating the crap out of tier 3 every week is really a small culmination of an issue that has been around since the start.

I mean people transferring has always happened. At the start of the game ET and HOD were the power houses…..now look at them.

Kaineng is one of the funnier ones to be honest, they started out at the bottom and ended up back there after gaining and losing players during these past couple years.

This migration to the top two tiers or stacking to a server isn’t a new idea. It happens due to people wanting to play with other like minded individuals and be competitive.

It seems the vast majority of large WvW guilds want to fight other large WvW guilds.

Screw them right?

edit:

One more thing about consequences – The top 7 servers are generally having a great experience(with the exception of the one cycled out into T3 for a week).

Not sure what populations are like in the far lower tiers, but I assume they are pretty low. It could be surmised that the vast majority of WvW players are enjoying their matchups and situations….

Does that screw over the minority? Possibly. Although I’m sure some of the other lower tiers are having fun.

So right now you have maybe 2 or 3 servers who are getting truly getting screwed over….out of 24.

Rimmy.9217:

It’s the players’ fault that they stacked. It’s also the players’ fault that overstacking servers is unstable, as can be seen on various servers over the lifetime of the game.

It’s the player’s fault that, to maintain that particular “solution” that it practically requires a constant influx of additional people, or the merging of other servers (depending on where you are on the ladder).

It’s the players’ fault that they don’t destack, too.

People, whether singly or in huge numbers, can transfer at will – that’s built into the game. It would be dumb to pretend that the consequences of the way players have done it haven’t had an overall negative effect on the game as a whole.

No one said that stacking didn’t have negative consequences for a lot of other servers, but blaming the players for a faulted gaming mode is ridiculous and short sighted.

You have an unbalanced game due to coverage wars, and you expect people not to try their way of balancing it…after 2 1/2 years waiting for ANET to fix it?

Now two of you want those servers to destack and spread out logically on their own??

How exactly would that happen? Who’s going to figure out who goes where to make it all balanced?

I mean screw server pride right?
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It was never balanced to begin with.

The smarter fix would be to introduce some sort of autobalancing mechanism to the game. There’s been tons of player solutions posted in this forum. I have no idea which would be the best, or if any would work at all…

Arius.7031:

etrigan.4213:

No his post is crap, he’s basically blaming players for wanting to play with other like minded people.

Like how is it on the shoulders of the end user to fix servers they may have never been on?

There was imbalance at the launch of the game and there is imbalance now. Was it the players fault that there was imbalance and coverage problems in August 2012?

Not one mention of ANET having an unbalanced pvp game mode.

Deny one bit of reasoning used in my post. Bro, you don’t seem to realize, WvW does not have to be as messed up as it is. Look at EU, the rank 5 server is beating the rank 1 server. The top 6 servers are all within 120 glicko of each other rofl. There’s amazing matchup variety because they didn’t successfully overstack 2 groups of servers (tier 1/2 in our case were heavily over stacked, t1 especially).

I couldn’t care less if you personally prefer to play in tier 1 or tier 2, your preference is unimportant to the discussion, it’s irrelevant. Don’t assume that if you’re in a bad situation, you can just do w/e you want and it doesn’t change anything cus bad situation. Pro tip, you can in fact make bad situations worse. Tier 2 made bad situations worse for half a dozen silver servers, who have to worry about getting unluckily rolled into tier 3 to get beat up on by an over stacked blob server for a week (or in the case of IoJ, 3 months now?)

What you, or anyone else want to do does not mean that it’s a smart choice for the overall game. Sure, by all means, make the game more enjoyable for yourself! I fully support you in that decision, as games are understandably fundamentally selfish pursuits. In the end though it means absolutely nothing, because what you’re doing is STILL bad for the overall game, no matter what you want. A good desire doesn’t mean your choice won’t have bad effects. Have fun on your stacked server, to each his own, but anyone who moves to your stacked server is just making the game we all play worse in the grand scheme of things, making a bad situation worse.

Dude you just compared EU with NA….

You do realize they have completely different populations right?

Also you just said that the end users preference on where they play is “irrelevant”. Actually its quite relevant.

I think you fail to understand how servers work and who plays when and where.
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Again you’re blaming end users for wanting to play the game the way they want to, and not addressing the real problem.

The real problem isn’t the stacking…the real problem is the imbalance. ANET created an unbalanced game and now every one has stacked to fight each other. They also ignored GvG, and there’s a fair amount of guilds that moved just to compete in that realm as well.

Some of that could possibly be fixed by getting more players to play the game during those low population coverage times. Look at DB…its a full server…and they are fighting for 5th place right now. If they had more WvW participation, then perhaps they would be T1 capable, they certainly have the server population for it.

But its nearly impossible to rally people to WvW due to megaservers, something ANET introduced which helped PVE tons, but hurt WvW badly.

You want to blame the players and the guilds…well good luck with that.

Rimmy.9217:

Arius.7031:

Unfortunately our playerbase was so incredibly stupid, we’ve pretty much permanently damaged our own WvW scene by stacking tier 1/2 and saying “screw you” to every other tier.

+1

And a whole host of subsequent problems, both social and mechanical, have followed.

While the ideas posited may not fix the current situation, having them in place for when the problems are fixed isn’t a terrible idea.

No his post is crap, he’s basically blaming players for wanting to play with other like minded people.

Like how is it on the shoulders of the end user to fix servers they may have never been on?

There was imbalance at the launch of the game and there is imbalance now. Was it the players fault that there was imbalance and coverage problems in August 2012?

Not one mention of ANET having an unbalanced pvp game mode.

Curo.2483:

Glad we got the discussion going.

No offense dude, but this discussion has been happening on this forum since the start of the game and there’s still no resolution.

Don’t get your hopes up.

And don’t get me wrong, I agree 100% with you….this is the only competitive online game I have ever played that has NO autobalance.

But you’re preaching to the choir.

Coyote.7031:

People get legendaries for transferring? Huh, no wonder people jump. Someone on my server just mentioned another server buying a few of our PVE guilds. I thought it just meant paying server transfer costs, and I was wondering how they afford 252g(assuming 14g per 100 gems for simplicity) per guild member. Or do they just pay for the big dogs in the guild and let the little scrublet players fend for themselves?

Most serious WvW servers have a fund set aside for such things. All of the big servers have active websites with forums and strong communities.

Sometimes they appeal for donations via forum and in game, and sometimes they run raffles that have in game prizes or sometimes even real life prizes.

In the end guilds and servers just want to play the game with like minded individuals, and both sides will make that happen.

Chairface.9036:

so the TL:DR solution is to keep begging for 2v1 alliances, keep throwing gold at people, and talk up SoS like that have the staying power of DB or YB.

There was no 2vs1 a week ago when they beat YB and came in second.

There’s no reason to believe otherwise.

One Prarie Outpost.4860:

Hopefully never. That site is a cesspool of vile hate talk.

That was kinda the idea of it. It is for WvW matchup talk not preschool. :P

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Mance Khan – Our open field fighting hero and strategist

He certainly delivers the Heavy Loot Bags…

ITT: People whining about dying in a PVP game mode, even though they have two extra ways to avoid dying…..

WAT?!

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

It’s strange that this poster understands this, but is against the ktrains in EotM. If WvW players don’t go to EotM and PvE players don’t go to EotM, then who does?

No one and they should get rid of it. EOTM is a pve zone with some pvp sprinkled in.

Was it meant to be a place to go if there were queues in WvW? Maybe…

But there’s no queues outside of Friday nights in T1 and T2.

OP has to be a troll.

Complaining about getting pk’d while in a PVP zone?

Welp the blandness of the maps may be due to the issue with frame rates when large zergs collide.

I wouldn’t expect any new maps to fix this. Maps have been brought up due to other reasons, and we almost never get a reply.

Chaba.5410:

Players that are looking for stability should look into Fort Aspenwood. It’s a resilient community that bounces back in the face of adversity.

Along with TC and BG, we are the most stable server in the game.

We also have the most active server forum in the game as well.

Hit us up if you are interested in our community:

http://www.fort-aspenwood.com/

I think OP commands on a thief or ranger. :P

You should come to T2, better fights, better guilds.

Pure comedy.

Wondering why they are losing players and the game is stale…but then they want to game the matches lol.

DoctorWunderbar.5037:

Noticed how you conveniently left out [coVn], and didn’t include me on the contact list either. Kitten.

I thought coVn was filled with casuals?!?
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Anyways come to FA we have really nice forums and etc etc etc etc

http://www.fort-aspenwood.com/

This video is gaming gold.

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

I say free transfers for only the bottom 3 servers. All others still have to pay.

But TBH I have posted a real solution, it just requires some effort by Anet.

First of all monitor server WvW activity 24/7
Find out what times a server either has long queues, or little to no activity.

Honestly they have metrics for all of this already.

They know exactly how many people play WvW and have chosen to spend their time/money on PVE content.

WvW got the OS, WXP and EOTM.

OS was like a hotfix to placate a group of people, most of which don’t play the game anymore.

WXP has been a slight interesting addon, most hardcore players already have enough points to buy everything that matters though.

EOTM is a failure in the sense of a competitive gameplay arena, its basically just a place to go to get free rewards. It was meant to be a place to go to when you are stuck in queues and a place to test WvW elements. I have honestly never seen either…

I think the vast majority of WvW players no longer post on this board, and only peruse it. Most of them are on gw2wvw.net…

The ones that are on here, likely have no real idea about the numbers.

Also it serves no purpose to post these numbers. ANET knows exactly how many players are in and out of WvW and at what times. They have metrics for that stuff, they just don’t share it.

But trust me they know exactly what is going on, its just not on their agenda to fix it.

Quite honestly, I think most of the tiers below T1 and T2 are probably in the range of what you posted for Kaineng.

The problem is that T1 and T2 is where most of the hardcore WvW guilds are for the fights and/or GvG.

Still looking for some good guilds/people to help us kill our friends in SoS.

And its nice to kill those other dudes on YB as well!

FA is a good home with a VERY active community:

http://www.fort-aspenwood.com/

Sorry about the lower tiers…ANET really isn’t helping you guys out at all.

Honestly if I were you, I’d check out either SoS or us at FA.

http://www.fort-aspenwood.com/

Probably wondering about their jobs after NCSOFT took a bite out of Wildstar devs…

Jim Hunter.6821:

For the next WvW season how about just don’t have it? They are pointless and harmful to the community. Fix the population imbalance and coverage problems before having another kittening tournament.

Exactly.

I mean the rewards aren’t even that good. There’s literally no point to have another season when the vast majority of players don’t care.

At best its a way to get more pve’rs into WvW…

Vermillion.4061:

Lol @ GvG revival.

Shush, you’re in TW.

Its not like you guys were around when GvG was hot and heavy…You lost to RG and that was then end of your GvG credibility.

YB has no GvG guilds so you have FA and SoS. :P

Honestly. YB tends to hump siege a bit too much.

They open field once in awhile, usually with disastrous results unless they have a much larger force.

I was glad to see Mag gone from Tier 2, as they don’t show up anymore, but YB has been a huge disappointment for us at FA and I’m sure they disappoint SoS as well.

Just not enough guilds willing to open field and/or GvG.

No one should listen to Chris. There’s a reason his own server makes fun of him.