Guild Wars 2

they even were so lazy to give a reskinned mini in the 100$ bundle

People should stop preordering games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zxKMSSM4U

To those who buy pre-orders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zxKMSSM4U

rotten.9753:

KryTiKaL.3125:

Living World Seasons are supplementary to the content of larger releases.

Living World is not going to stop. There will be HoT story instances and then Living World Seasons to come after that.

I will say this again. Living World is not going to stop. Colin said this himself in multiple interviews.

Basically their new method of content release is going to go like this, based on how things have developed.

Guild Wars 2 Release > Living World Seasons > Heart of Thorns Release > Living World Seasons > Next Expansion Release > Living World Seasons > Etc.

Yes, the expansion seems like it is “lacking” in content, but what you experienced in that Stress Test was only a -tiny- piece of what will be available when HoT comes out in full release.

You’re concerned about things that have already been elaborated on which sadly get lost within the Internet because it is spread through multiple sources.

I will also reiterate what someone else said earlier in this thread; Do not think of this in terms of having the same amount of content that WoW would deliver in an expansion. Notice what happens with those. They load it up with big chunks of content with fairly large spans of time between large updates and it all gets blown through in maybe a month and then people have to wait, wait, wait, and wait.

GW2 is taking a more procedural approach. More consistent, frequent releases with an Expansion to introduce larger, newer features (Guild Halls, new PvP mode, New Class, etc) so as to keep things more consistent. They are even going to be adding a feature in HoT that is essentially enabling re-playability in older maps in the form of those Map Bonuses we’ll be getting with rewards and such (t6 materials being among them) for participation in events.

Sometimes I feel like people don’t pay attention to information before going off on a rant in a forum like this.

Yes, living story releases will not end because they will have to release stuff they won’t manage to put in the game at the time of the expansion launch like the new legendaries. Heart of Thorns will lack a content because it’s going to be incomplete, we might not even defeat the big guy and will have to wait for a living story episode which will just make him a zerged boss. Sadly.

source?
If it’s true then…lol… they want money for an incomplete content lacking expansion… -_-"

Erukk.1408:

papryk.6273:

Please try to prove that somehow…because this just sounds like a fanboyish statement

Complexity = time= money.

The higher quality graphics takes more time and money to produce, and building areas and encounters around a more mobile movement and combat system tacks onto the cost as well.

ps. there is no raid ready gear in Rift store. There is..let’s say “dungeon ready gear” which is obtainable in many ways in the game and the rift store way is just for the lazy ppl.

“Let’s say”. Such a dangerous phrase.

Does the “dungeon ready gear” give the player a nice enough dps to be possibly allowed into the first tiered raids, thus being able to skip any previously needed dungeon grinding? Even if doesn’t, how much grinding of lower lv content does the dungeon ready gear allow you to skip so you could move forward?

Either way, no matter the other grindy ways to get to that point, it’s still available in the cash store for quick and easy purchase.

oh please tell me how is GW2 more complex than Rift…

oh wow…much dangerous phrase…such wow
I will rephrase it for you: There is dungeon rdy gear in the store. Happy now?
Dude you are just embarrasing yourself because you clearly have no idea about Rift.
the dungeon gear don’t allow you to raid…simple as that….because you don’t meet the “hit” requirement. You don’t skip anything because the same gear can be obtained via other way…like crafting, pvp boxes, buy it from AH, rng boxes that drop from mobs, or just as a drop from open world content.

Erukk.1408:

papryk.6273:

then so please tell me… if Trion can make enough money from the gem shop they have in Rift and are able to make huge amount of content…then why Anet isn’t able with their gem shop (beside the fact they have an income from the sales of boxes)?

For one, GW probably costs more money to product than Rift does because of the graphics and different styles in their gameplay.

Please try to prove that somehow…because this just sounds like a fanboyish statement

ps. there is no raid ready gear in Rift store. There is..let’s say “dungeon ready gear” which is obtainable in many ways in the game and the rift store way is just for the lazy ppl.

FrizzFreston.5290:

I hope you realise that the Rift devs don’t simply update the game for free out of the goodness of their hearts.

whoosh…there go the captain obvious…

so after the obvious you stated. yes Rift have a so called “Rift Store” and it’s pretty much like the gem shop from GW2…the stuff they are selling is pretty much the same, wardrobes, mounts, boosts, rng boxes, haistyles etc…
then so please tell me… if Trion can make enough money from the gem shop they have in Rift and are able to make huge amount of content…then why Anet isn’t able with their gem shop (beside the fact they have an income from the sales of boxes)?

Erukk.1408:

And while I’m sure Rift is an ok/good game, but for them to be able to put out a totally free expansion that would mean they’re probably sucking up to the whales hard to pay for it all.

probably…not. but hey , I’m sure you played it and you know what you are talking about… -_-

just for a comparison let’s have a look at the 3.0 expansion in Rift
http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/patch-notes/442490-rift-3-0-nightmare-tide-7-00am-pdt-10-22-14-na-2-00pm-gmt-10-22-14-eu.html

and it was totally for FREE

and now look at the amount of content of HoT with the knowledge that it will be NOT for FREE

so…seriously…why do ppl even have to pay for this HoT when other companies can do bigger expansions for free?

Akagami.9861:

Wow 5 girls and not a boy..

Congratz

RNG is RNG

Exevos.6709:

If by best patch in history, you mean that guild chat is broken, random warrior shouts are happening all over, joining parties is broken… the list goes on.

Yeah, it’s a feature pack!

Shnaku.1908:

2. 15v15 is minimum.

no thx…good luck trying to see anything with the particles effects fest on your screen with 30 ppl spamming skills

skills are balanced for 5v5 fights anyway so I expect a 5v5 GvG

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Have they even beta tested it yet?

they have beta testers for sure.

You can’t force ppl to stay and play a game they dont’t enjoy anymore.

after playing GW1 PvP well…there is nothing to like about pvp in GW2

I would prefer an expansion to GW1 :/

conditions are still broken….
but afterall they are aware and looking into it…
we just got to wait another few years for a fix -_-

Zoso.8279:

GW2 is going to be the new standard in the mmorpg genre imo.

lol what standard?

wasted.6817:

GW2’s stat system works better in PvP and there it allows to achieve some variety and flexibility.

I hope you are joking…

nerovergil.5408:

6. Esport

wait… what? xDDD

they do that for magic find

NYG.2568:

Press other buttons besides 1 and learn to dodge.

QFT
+1

enemy cast bar and customisable UI like in GW1

what the hell is raptr?
If ppl want to look at numbers and what game is popular I think that twitch would be a better choice.

MikaHR.1978:

papryk.6273:

MikaHR.1978:

papryk.6273:

Expansion confirmed because Vayne says so!
…even if anet said recently otherwise…

Hell, what other games call “expansions” these days, you already got more just in LS 2 ;P

You sure about that?
http://riftgrate.com/3-0-content/

I would like to see this amount of content added in GW2 …ever

they launched with pretty much least content ever and focused on dungeons/raiding and that was their downfall.

I dont think we played the same game. The game was advertised from the beggining to be focused on raids…so how focusing on raids could be the downfall? oO

Also, it was most accurate WoW clone, and they didnt even hide it ;P

And there is something wrong with that if the game is good?

MikaHR.1978:

papryk.6273:

Expansion confirmed because Vayne says so!
…even if anet said recently otherwise…

Hell, what other games call “expansions” these days, you already got more just in LS 2 ;P

You sure about that?
http://riftgrate.com/3-0-content/

I would like to see this amount of content added in GW2 …ever

Expansion confirmed because Vayne says so!
…even if anet said recently otherwise…

Jornophelanthas.1475:

Getting paid for saying nice things about the game? Where do I sign up?

Getting paid for complaining about the game? Where do I sign up?

google

Funny that nobody mentioned you here and you still feel concerned xD

anyway… a quick search on google can show what I said, that paid posters are a common thing

Paid posters on forums are a common thing. Even if this the case here nobody will admit it.

Vayne will find an excuse for everything…

please…this game has one of the worst pvp and you call it end game…wtf?
must be that “esport” hype in your mind…

it’s cute that people think that anet will make guild halls…
can’t find right now the link but it has been already stated that they do not plan/think to do guild halls in the near future
so even if they make guild halls in 1 year from now well it will be “too little too late”

Etien.4601:

Is this real life?

is this just fantasy?

Vegeta.2563:

Its never going to happen so not like it matters.

I will quote you in a few months …

Nick.6972:

Romek.4201:

with the evolution from gw1 to gw2 i think gw3 will be
a gemshop + chatwindow + warderobe + weekly story in chat

Fully integrated in Facebook?

with a gem shop like in Farmville!

like the CDIs gonna change something…

Knighthonor.4061:

GW1 success came from not being a MMO and being a B2P 3D Diablo .

WTF? u srs? o_O

Malkavian.4516:

Could you name me one MMORPG that’s fully released in which a developer responded or remedied immediately or shortly after receiving a huge wad of complaints on the forums?

Rift

Vayne.8563:

new Dungeon path for TA,

you should add then they removed a path in TA to replace it with the new one.

Zardul.3952:

and that was over 2 years.

just as an example. Let’s look at Rift since it went F2P (in june 2013)
http://forums.riftgame.com/general-discussions/general-discussion/401629-welcome-back-v4-guide-whats-changed.html

look at the patches starting from 2.3 and all the content that was added since… and that’s just in 1 year…

If that interests somebody:

http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/quarterly.aspx#none

I once got zap from 4 random rare junk

Nerelith.7360:

Mesket.5728:

in GW1, any useless skill, COMPLETELY useless skill, could be the next FOTM without any balance patch just because someone put some thought and find a combo with the least thought class combination and made it the most OP build ever. Given the amount of skills, class combinations and runes, it was theoricrafters dreamland and the best (at least for pvp) there was no meta because every meta was always countered… in GW2 pvp metas get nerfed because there aren’t enough tools ingame for the players to counter them,

All I’m saying is that if this game wants to be GW sequel, its needs a ton load of more skills and let us choose between different weapon skills as well, not just the same 5 for any build with the same weapon.

GW2 meta builds are a kinda of a joke when compared… “I equipped reflect wall, I’m now the party reflector, that’s my role”, “hey I have time warp, I must be the party buffer!”..

THIS. It is amazing how synergy had so much to do with the earlier game’s popularity. All it took is saying " hmmm…this skill teleports me over and heals me, but..I get extra healing if it also happens to be poisoned… what causes it to be Poisoned? and that other one makes it bleed,… but this skill will cripple it if it happsn to be bleeding.,…so do i want extra heals from it being poisoned? or cripple it if it’s bleeding? Now I need to figure out…where do i put my points ?"

Now… for ME that used to be interesting, and could keep me playing on, and on, and on,. and on.

I could take builds into GvG, and enjoy it, and this…coming from someone that detests PvP.

I think that many players that currently enjoy gw2, have latched onto the idea that " Guild wars was filled with useless skills" to accept that gw2 has so few of them. It’s Like they feel the sheer " uselessness" of Guild Wars was a problem that a Lot fewer weapon locked skills were the answer to.

Guild wars wasn’t filled with useless skills, Guild Wars was filled wit tons of situational skills, that rocked in the right situation. Guild Wars was filled with synergistic skills, that would rock, if used with other skills that played off them….

Personally I think Guild Wars was a Theorycrafter’s heaven. And what we are seeing boils down to " Am I a Theorycrafter at heart? If I am I would probably love Guild Wars. If I am not…not so Much."

And how come no one has even mentioned sub-classes? Added diversity ^2, from having 1 of 9 possible sub-classes for each main class. That is…

90 possible combinations, without even looking at skill selections, and elites. If you Bought Prophesies, Factions and Nightfall.

56 if you owned any 2 of the 3.

30 if you only owned one.

And yes Monk/mesmer played very differently from monk/necromancer

No.. The skills weren’t useless, they were situational, which meant they were powerful In the situation they were made for, and useless In the one they weren’t.

Holy Water, Powerful against Vampires, useless against Robots.

All I can add to this is… Amen

Yukikaze.8562:

saw these two in the black citadel haha

Gokarr and Vegetarr SSJ4

if ppl want an expansion then ppl should stop buying gems.

2 blues + 1 green

Vayne.8563:

papryk.6273:

from what I’ve read there wont be guild halls in GW2.

I’d love to see a quote on this, because I’m relatively sure Anet has never said that.

They said they don’t plan to do GvG (like in GW1) and as we all knows guild halls are tied to GvG.

Beldin.5498:

Btw.: i think NCSoft never released expansions you have to pay for for their own games (afaik)

At least expansions for Lineage 2 and AION were in the end just free big content patches.

GW1?