Guild Wars 2

I thought you were going to post a screenshot of how wvw has devolved into pirate ship battles after the stab change xD

How long before people realise sluringshh used our oldest trick in the book

lol google translate – first line reads “The latest burst of urine!”

Lol they’ve said so many times already specialisations aren’t supposed to be upgrades and it seems they’ve already revealed all major changes to the base class.

Korgov.7645:

The PPK experiment has been well received.

However it needs more development before it should be added to the game.

1. Point for killing blow only

Now your server gets a point if you just tag an enemy. This leads to siege/ranged AoE spam on top of fights between the enemy zergs.

If the point was given for killing blow only, then the only the server which deserves it gets rewarded.

2. Handle special cases

Maybe these are already handled, but I somehow doubt it.

If the enemy dies but not by a killing blow, the server which had the player tagged should gain a point. Or both servers if that is the case.

• Point for NPC/fall deaths
• Point for ALT-F4/disconnect
• Point for unsuccessful Vengeance skill

3. Triple Bloodlust points

Delivering a killing blow is too easy compared to stomping. Especially in larger fights. This needs balancing.

Increasing the bloodlust points would encourage skillful play instead of mindless #1 spam.

4. Display non-PPT points

Make the points for player kills, Bloodlust stomps, sentry kills, dolyak escorts and dolyak kills visible.

At minimum in the WvW details window. For example:

• Dolyaks escorted 1212
• Dolyaks killed 372
• Sentry points captured 281
• Bloodlust points gained 236
• Enemies defeated 183
• Total non-PPT points 2284

Display the points earned in the combat log. With an option of suppress these messages. BTW please make the timestamps in combat log have precision of one tenth of a second. A lot can happen within a minute while player is in combat.

For example:
12:34:56.7 – You have earned 3 server points for killing a dolyak.

A nice addition would be floating combat text for each server point earned. With option to turn it off. Perhaps also flash the WvW icon on top of the screen.
For example:
+3 with dolyak killed symbol

5. Collect data at player/guild level

Collect data when a player and the guild he/she represents gains points for the server.

• Display the data in-game in hero window and guild window.
• Make the data available on the Leaderboards and make it easy to access named player’s/guild’s points for each match-up.
• Provide API for external web sites.

A dev already stated that you don’t get a point per tag on an enemy, its awarded per death of the enemy so only one point is awarded per death. This among other issues were explained to have already been taken care of.

thiagoperne.7340:

So funny to see the majority pointing warrior as the easiest class to play WvW with group/zerg while it’s the hardest of all, unless your only job is hitting #4 and #5 off-hand warhorn.

To play the warrior class as it was meant to be in WvW, you gonna need some serious practice that requires a long time to get used to, from placement on the field for damage to smartness for survivability, not even counting lots and lots of thoughts and tries to make the right build to combine damage/crit and defense.

The right choice for you Victor is Guardian staff/sword+shield or gs.

lawl wut

Don’t be a donkey to a carrot man :/

Probably one rank up chest xD

Bubi.5237:

Lucente.5071:

The question I have is will I still be able to pick 2 master traits instead of a grandmaster trait in the same line. I.e Indominable Courage and Absolute resolution or will the new system only allow one major trait of each tier?

According to this image no, you can’t equip 2 traits from the same “tier”

Well kitten..

They need to include enough ambients for the solo roaming necros.

I said this during the beta of the desert maps, they should have kept the character models of the all the wildlife but just made them ambient, its a win-win you keep the immersion and get rid of the pve nuisance while not making a solo roaming necro’s life harder than it already is.

Do you mean condi duration?

Burtnik.5218:

Youre not supposed to beat necro with condi.

Olny necro is supposed to faceroll condi builds with condi -Anet 2015

The irony

Too late I’m afraid, anet lost, the moment has passed. People have been asking this for years and finally moved on leaving wvw in its current pathetic state.

Also – the guild hall arena is a joke, there is so much unused area in guild halls that they fill up with water yet they couldn’t make the arena big enough for an actual gvg it speaks greatly for their attitude towards gvg.

Haralin.1473:

Kanebrake.6192:

FallenTear.3710:

Anet want Esport , guys. Deal with it : (

They don’t seem to have much luck with that either.

I hope they will fail hard, to open there eyes.

They already did, they spent $200k on a (two) tournament(s) where the balance was so bad that one of the teams rage quit when the score was 72-0 and barely anyone watched it. Of those that did watch it they were mostly there for the twitch chat banter.

Meh make your own builds. People need to learn to stop copy + pasting others’.

Wetpaw.3487:

I have enjoyed HoT, mostly. Some aspects that cause me concern would be…

Adventures-No fun for me, and pretty much forced into them for mastery points. As soon as I got my bronze & silver (a few I couldn’t even get close to silver) I won’t be back for them.

WvW-I’m baffled that this game mode takes a backseat to garbage like esports in a mmo? Happy to hear all the bad things coming out of spvp/leagues, I can only hope that continues.

Ley-line sparks & Auric Dust-How these items are not %100 drop for one per chest is beyond me. Once I have farmed these out It’s pretty safe to say I won’t be setting foot in these maps for a very long time.

They spent 200k on a tournament as the prize pool and one of the teams ragequit when the score was 72-0 because of #balance, xD such esports.

HoT money being put to good use right there.

Ithilwen.1529:

Actually I can beat a d/d ele about half the time. Staff Ele more often. As to standing around.. pull and chill followed by instant I win button weapon spin.

Yes I carry condi cleanse, no it’s not an adequate defense. I’m willing to bet that the win records will show reaper and revenant dominant in pvp at the moment.

What about a diamond skin ele?

And lol you claim to be able win against dd ele half the time but get caught by reaper on a mesmer.

Cogbyrn.7283:

OP isn’t talking about dungeon/raid LFGs. He’s talking about the jungle.

I’ve been loving my Reaper out in the jungle, personally. Built for tankiness with Shroud-based damage, and while other people just crumble around me, I keep the wagon train moving. I love being self-sufficient, and that’s what the design is all about.

Well if hes asking for nerfs due to OPness i hope he doesnt think ‘only being useful on open world pve’ would justify nerfs across every game mode.

Jourdelune.7456:

so you can send your pet on mid, while you are on home or far and rez mid players.

Youve never played ranger before have you..

I don’t get why people make multiples of the same class unless it’s for looks n you want a different race, well unless you find changing builds that annoying lol.

Ragnarox.9601:

They started giving infractions for nothing . You can infract all you like but you won’t hide the truth.

This is when you know the ship is sinking, now the rest of the playerbase is beginning to feel what it is like being a vocal/passionate wvwer.

Trajano.6829:

Death is the lonly way to “cure” it…

how fitting :P

oxtred.7658:

Can you please share your build?

lol

Jekkt.6045:

sorry but i dont agree and death shroud needs this aswell imo. now you’re gonna hate me for that statement but in the heat of battle in pvp it can happen that you spam f1 to get into shroud when its off cd to prevent death or whatever and in a worst case scenario you pop in and out and die.
same reason why they added the 1s gcd to elite transforms.

That’s definitely a l2p issue and they should not handicap flash builds to cater for this.

IfIFear.7210:

i mainly do pve, and on really rare occasion i go into WvW. Never PvP mainly because i suck at it. Also if it helps with the advice i’ll be running fractals and World Bosses with a friend who plays a necro and he’s a condition build.

Hmm well if its pve you want to do and mainly blobbing/zergbusting in wvw you should be using a power build. When it comes to necro especially in the above two settings you want to go full damage and you can rely on positioning and clever shroud dancing to provide you with the survivability.

Anyway do you have a preference over minions or wells? Those are the two builds closest to what works in a casual sense after tweaking the traits or are you looking for the most optimal build?

If youre not comfortable with being full dps and really want to be tanky then go knights, don’t worry about your health necros have the highest tier of base health. Also you need to get rid of the siphon stuff, not because im taking away your sustain but because if you look at the numbers it amounts to nothing. Doing the math you can see its something like the siphons are outdone even by the regen boon. Just a tip though, pve in this game results in that the best way to increase your survivability is simply by killing faster.

I’ve seen this idea before but what’s gonna happen is you’ll have pve guilds waypoint in the claim a keep as fast as possible n then disappear from wvw leaving wvwers to defend the keep because the objective is important while the pve guild doing nothing gets the rewards. Also they probably won’t have any of the fort buffs running.

That’s called the celestial amulet.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Oh god, GW2 is beating Black Desert for viewers.

GG Black Desert devs, you sux.

Well I guess itll be a different story when it launches in eu/na :P

WindGodGirl.6405:

My only problem with Shattering Blow is that he doesn’t stomp the ground to summon the rock first.

i know right, avatar last airbender style

Sarrs.4831:

HazyDaisy.4107:

Only a WvW player hears the announcements of (no new legendaries for the foreseeable future, but, here’s Friday reset back, btw, we’re pulling resources to rework the new PVE maps) and ponders “so, no other updates for wvw for the next 2 years or so eh?”

I giggled cos it’s true. So much rage about legendaries, and you can hear the crickets in WvW.

As someone who’s never had or wanted a legendary (because they look terrible, yes I’m a necro) I say us and the legendary ragers are on the same team. The rest of the playerbase is finally getting to see how wvwers are treated and they are not happy about it. Most importantly of all, it’s two (along with the non-existent wvw overhaul) major parts of the expansion that were advertised and incited sales but were cancelled.

Spurnshadow.3678:

Power attacks can be affected by aegis, blinds, toughness, etc. Conditions ignore armor and blinds don’t affect pusling attacks. With the stability changes completely borking WvW, I just can imagine all the dazed, immobilized, stunned people getting melted by wells, and all the new conditions specs that are coming out. Yes, we can cleanse, but not when CCed.

People seem to forget that the attacks that put condis on you can be blocked, blinded, dodged, out-healed, stopped by invulnerability and tanked with vitality. If those attacks themselves are stopped you don’t get any condis on you, just because you don’t see big numbers when you get hit doesn’t mean you shouldn’t mitigate them. They can also be cleansed and converted on top of that and completely negated by resistance.

Oh and no you’re not gonna get more than 25 condi stacks on you, and I’ll say again if you are bad enough to get 25 stacks alone of a condi on you, you are dead anyway.

Gwaihir.1745:

People duel in wvw because they suck too much for pvp. Wvw is about your ability to 1v2 or higher. If you are only worth 1 enemy player you hinder your team. So glory seeking duelers need to leave ebg.

As someone who plays a lot of spvp I can tell you this is incorrect. A lot of fights in spvp will come down to +1ing the opponent aka rotating well. Fights rarely come down to 1v1’s all the way from 100% to death except at niche moments in the match.

People who settle down for duels tend to do so after finding a formidable opponent while wading through all the scrubs while solo roaming for 1vx.

Pretty sure the devs already said eotm doesn’t count towards the wvw activity count.

Darkness.9732:

I’ m happy that this stability changes has screwed the GvG fights.
Now start being useful for your server and play for your server instead of doing mindless gvg

What do you accomplish/gain by getting “mindless” PPT ?

Also, its clear anet has the same view as you however, unfortunately you dont seem to realise fights guilds will quit if they are in a position where they can do nothing but PPT rather than become fellow zombies.

Has this happened across the board? As far as I know, the biggest culprit was mesmer greatsword

Entenkommando.5208:

I don’t say that it should take 100 players. But 5 players should be fine to take a camp, not only 1.

Wvw already has too many incentives to blob up it doesnt need more. Your ability to have an effect on the map should be gated by the player opposition not hard-capped artificially by the game’s npcs.

Rimmy.9217:

funassistant.6589:

this WILL RUIN THE WHOLE META OF GVG

You mean that thing that players do that isn’t actually supported by the dev?

funassistant.6589:

It’s game over for WvW.

OR, some of the people wasting time GvGing might actually put some/more time IN to WvW.

No one wants to play your brain dead siege wars.. Gw2’s combat system is what’s keeping wvw alive and it’s hanging by a thread at the moment.

Dusty Moon.4382:

TheHeretic.3529:

Conditions don’t need nerfing.

Ability to apply daze so frequently and stealth are what needs to be changed.

You mean Confusion? THAT IS A CONDITION……..

You do know what daze is right?

inch.3769:

dancingmonkey.4902:

Do you see a colored “pin” on your map inch? It would look kind of Dorito shaped and be either red, yellow, purple, or blue. by the way, what server are you on?

My server is fissure of woe

Your server is quite low in population so you definately want to get on teamspeak or join a wvw guild if you wanna play with others

http://mos.millenium.org/eu/matchups/

Scroll to the bottom to see the rankings, the rankings are a show of population (+coverage) not skill so use the rankings to determine the population of the servers.

I going to just keep saying my suggestion of letting all pve mobs keep their character models for immersion but making them ambient.

They’re just wasting all their work by putting them in there, anywhere there are mobs is a place where the map goes unused because people want to fight without interruption and I hope they don’t see rallying off mobs around you because you can’t fight fairly, tactical play. All the maps would suddenly feel bigger and open up more manouvers for fights once they get rid of the pve mobs obstructing players from using that terrain to fight on.

Cerby.1069:

“I do not wish to worship the house of player vs door”

“These people .. they group and they fight”

Wat

Mordyth.9018:

Zetsumei.4975:

Skaven Zverov.2984:

Zetsumei.4975:

laffingseals.5934:

What you guys are really missing is the fact back then no one really knew what they were doing, i.e. the flame engineer and sloppy large fights.

Now, the builds/gear really tight and the groups skill level is high. Thats why fights dont drag on that much, because commanders know what classes they need to use to hit hard.

Oh so so naive. It’s cute really.

True…

I find it hilarious when people try to act like they’re better than the real competition that has already left. It’s like calling Newton stupid because we learn what he discovered at university today.. they don’t understand the concept of innovation. The metabattle.com heroes of today wouldn’t stand a chance against the guilds this game once had.

We are better. It’s not a question of inherent talent. It’s merely a question of having a larger history to draw upon. Newton wasn’t stupid but of course today’s physicists know more about physics than he did. How could it be otherwise. As did he, we may say we stand on the shoulders of giants but nevertheless, there we are seeing farther than them.

Ask yourself this question: are you a better player now than you were when you first started? How is this possible? Were you dumber then?

That quote only applies when the mechanics of the world do not change, which in this game they have.

The sheer ignorance in saying that fights don’t last long as a show of skill.. it shows that the people of today have not improved in skill but the playerbase as a whole as dulled.

Are you guys (asking for mounts) opposed to having mounts with no speed increase? Because thats a much more realistic request to be honest

Yeah I do think this will be a continuation of zerker only to be honest and its not just about the enrage timer. It seems theyre main way to make things challenging is their typical one-shot gimmicks.

I know there are a lot of people out there who like the challenge being doing puzzles while under pressure but personally I would have liked to see encounteres where we use the games combat system to its full potential such as using fields and finishers other than fire field and blast.

Another issue with the continuation of one-shot gimmicks is that this means that necro will continue to not have adequate damage mitigation has blocks and dodges will rule.

Salamander.2504:

Holy smokes people, relax. Calling me an “armchair coach” is…crazy. My original post (quoted below) was merely defending 2 other posters after they were called “jealous” after expressing their dissapointment. I couldn’t gives a rat’s kitten whether someone rage-quit in a tournament. The conversation then delved into semantics as Dale Rojo tried to tell me that quitting during a match isn’t “rage-quitting”. Do not try and turn this around on me. LOL

Salamander.2504:

Zetsumei.4975:

To be honest this just sounds like jealousy and nothing more.

Zanther Deathbringer.4762:

Maybe you should get over your jealousy and see the bigger picture here that any decent competitive gaming vet can already see. That is, GW2 as an esport has no future

Wait what? Why are you guys jumping all over Matisse and Wolf Shadow for being “jealous?” They aren’t jealous; they’re correctly pointing out that rage-quitting is unsportmanlike. Geez…

Slandering and complaining that people with talent are ‘wasting it’ is jealousy in my book. If you wanted that opportunity as bad as you say you do then put the work in for it, don’t sit on your behind telling people in a position where they are allowed to make a choice based on their opinion what they should or shouldn’t do.

You guys realize that’s the original point of golems right.. ‘re-usable’ very strong siege but slow and vulnerable to open field attack. All I see is a bunch of complaining karma trainers.

draugris.9872:

Genesis.7693:

Lynnie.7213:

This doesn’t look like a nerf to me. More like a fix. And the increase healing is very welcome!

Lol “doesn’t seem like a nerf*”. Yes removing the only way we could get support from allies as a necro while in shroud isn’t a nerf but a fix instead.

You are highly exaggerating. You are reducing support only to healing which is i am sorry plain wrong. You will of course profit from other boons allies give you.

This is a needed correction as BB was too strong before. Tbh. i expected a nerf already during the beta and i expected it with a lot more consequences than this.

And yet by existing on a team with a druid we indirectly reduce their effectiveness. This was a perfectly fine trade for allies not being able to heal us in shroud.. back to being melted in team fights and this time it’s on a melee spec. Too many people still want to ‘focus the necromancer’.

Offair.2563:

Put them in bank, talk to npc with an alt to spend em, there ya go, soulbound items used on another toon.

Holy craps thanks !

alcopaul.2156:

lordkrall.7241:

To someones loved ones.

gg.

This is a first for me defending lordkrall, but seriously dude why do you feel the deaths involved over a tragedy that was widely publicized demands extra empathy and special privileges compared to the several deaths that occur everyday but dont make for great click-bait for the media’s stories? Every death hurts someone somewhere, just because one story is popular enough to make international news doesnt mean the world should be careful not to reference the tragedy in the slightest. As many have said, why should bladed weapons be allowed in the game when everyday somewhere a life is taken by a knife.